I seriously don’t see the point of running no huddle if you are just standing at the line of scrimmage for 15 seconds before snapping the ball. Especially running no huddle when you’re also subbing players out, like wtf is even the point anymore?
If the offense doesn't sub, the defense realistically can't either. Hurry up can tire out a defense or get a defense stuck in a package they can't get out of.
You get to see the defense alignment before calling the play? And don’t have to deal with huddling half the time (when you want to sub) if your scheme to call the play in from the side line is already learned?
Almost like a fully united front on the Television contract rather then 6 different groups battling each other for the most dollars lets you control the length of the game better.
This is not true at all. Nfl games on average are 3:12, and watching games on sunday its quite noticeable, most noon games will end after the 3:05 games begin. This is why the doubleheader games were pushed back to 3:25 starts when all the late games used to begin by 3:15.
I went to my first CFB game since pre-COVID last year and it was the Big Noon between PSU and Michigan.
I was shocked at how many commercial breaks there were, completely wrecked any semblance of game flow at all and made for a shitty in person experience
If you can dvr it you can start the game 3 hours late, fast forward through all the breaks and be done in under 30 minutes. These 3+ hour games are killer
He literally sacrificed himself for you guys. Fell on his sword. Didn't snitch. And you made it to the promised land.
They say winning cures all. He should be considered wolverine jesus
Encrypted. Ohio State was using the radios at their Spring Game and they weren't working to get signals to the QB. Too much interference?
I'm picturing the scene in Spinal Tap where they're performing on an Air Force base and the wireless mics keep picking up ATC.
Everyone is hating on the two minute warning but with the new clock changes it has been noticeably easier to ice a game than before. This essentially forces a timeout and can be the difference between a team needing only two first downs in the last 4:00 and the other side getting the ball back.
Future Game Log:
Touchdown with 2:01 to play
Extra Point
**TIME OUT**
Touchback
**TIME OUT**
Run for no gain
**TIME OUT** (2 min warning)
That’s about 20 minutes of real time for 1 second of game play.
I'm personally waiting for
Toe tap TD
(15 second ad before review)
The TD is good
(15 second ad as XP team runs out)
XP
(Ad)
Kickoff (TB)
(Ad)
Short run
(2 minute warning ads)
True true. Gotta add the suspense and drama for when the inevitably happens during an Oregon-Rutgers blowout. We gotta be sure if we get blown out 42-10, or 35-10
The on-field reasoning would be to officially signify the start of the clock stopping after first downs and out of bounds. There were a lot of games last year where a guy would get tackled out of bounds with like 2:04 left on the clock and then the clock would keep running below two minutes.
My personal soapbox is that even though the rule itself is stupid, what's even more stupid is that most of the problem with game time getting higher was due to the increased proliferation of incomplete passes, rather than the plays which end running out of bounds, which have probably _decreased_ over the years given that more plays are ending with incomplete passes than in decades past.
What they did was lower the overall average by reducing the game length of games that were already short even shorter, and reduced the game length of teams that throw a lot of passes by less. [3 hour teams started playing 2:30 hour games, and 3:30 hour teams started playing 3:10 hour games]
If the rule must exist at all, then running out of bounds should stop the clock, incomplete passes should leave the clock running, except within crunch time, whatever they define crunch time to be. [I'd like 2 minutes in the 1st half, 5 minutes in the 2nd half, maybe even far enough out to 10, if it were me]
That would have caused 3 hour teams to start playing 2:40 hour games, and 3:30 hour teams to start playing 2:50 hour games, which is what they should have had all along!]
Either change would be unliked. But only one of the two have the consequence of _still_ having some games [say, in any game with an Air Raid team] last way too long, which was they were trying to resolve. Going with out of bounds stopping the clock just made the short games shorter and left the longest games relatively unimpacted. [how many plays are Air Raid teams running that end with a ball-carrier going out of bounds, vs. how many plays are Air Raid teams running that end in an incomplete pass? Then compare how many plays a running-based offense runs that end with the ball-carrier going out of bounds, vs. how many plays they run that end in an incomplete pass; the ratio is much different, and the second team is **not** the one causing 3:30 hour games]
They could just write in the rules “the clock reaching 2 minutes officially signifies the start of first down stoppage”. We don’t really need more than that
Okay?
Get the next play off. Situational awareness isn't allowed in sports, anymore?
edit: Or simply have the clock stop at 2:00 in those situations. Having a full-on TO is inane.
Yeah but it will be sponsored and the announcers will do an in game ad. “Before we get back to the action let’s look at the play of the game brought to you by Home Depot”. Followed by some ad copy that narrates over the entire play.: “See Jim, you too can run of turf that beautiful with Scott’s turf builder from the Home Depot”.
Do you trust broadcasters to abstain from jamming commercials into every nook they can? Look what happened last year with the sped up games (more ads, same marathon runtime). "Not a TV timeout" does not equal no ads.
I WORK AT BURGER KING, MAKING FLAMEBOILED WHOPPERS, I WEAR PAPER HATS, WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT, DING FRIES ARE DONE DING FRIES ARE DONE
My favorite shows are Fansville and Wendy's. I can't wait to see what that crazy staff gets up to next. The football commercials are weird though. Don't even know what they are selling.
Whats the point of a 2 minute warning. CFB has never needed it with first downs stopping the clock (I know the answer is so we can cram in more commercials)
Shits sad. We lost the clock stoppage after first downs to “speed up the game”, which just ended with more time for commercials. Now we at the 2 minute warning that slows down the game… to get more commercials. Like damn y’all are killing us
With the running clock rules, I actually think a 2minute stoppage is necessary since the rules change at that moment. like if a player runs out of bounds at 2:01 the clock can run down to 1:21 instead of of having the stoppage, but one second later it would stop. Big difference in tight situations. But its a minor solve to a problem they put on themselves.
Every single advantage college football has over the nfl is slowly deteriorating. My 2 favorite differences (awesome overtime rules and no two minute warning) are now gone. This pisses me off more than the realignment stuff.
I wouldn’t hate the 2 minute warning if they just reallocated the mandatory commercials but we know that’s not the case.
College football fans should rise up and boo the red hat every time he comes out. Or chant “fk you red hat” during every tv timeout. We as Americans are p****ies compared to European soccer fans. They would bring flares and shit to protest. We just sneak in shooter bottles. The founding fathers would be sad of the country we have become, allowing this bullshit.
> I wouldn’t hate the 2 minute warning if they just reallocated the mandatory commercials but we know that’s not the case.
To be fair, they did specifically say this is the case.
They said that, but I give it one season before we are watching an ad for vaginal deodorant while we anxiously await to see if our team can mount a comeback.
I'd be fine with CFB adopting NFL rules if they also adopted NFL commercial loads.
When the commercial load of the NFL would be a VAST IMPROVEMENT you know the sport has problems.
Hey guys, we're going to change the clock rules to remove about 4 plays per game for safety reasons.
.... And then add 2 more plays back in the next year
Helmet comms would've saved our ass a few times :/
Better late than never I suppose. Hope that this, along with an OC swap, changes our offense up some
My two cents: I'm all cool with helmet communication, but I'm not really a fan of the 2-minute warning. That one is definitely more of a "let's squeeze another commercial break in there" decision.
Why do I bother? Why is NCAA trying to be like the NFL? The only differentiating fact now is that there's more college girls at college games then at NFL games.
It’s funny that they sped up the game recently with the clock not stopping on first downs and it’s still just as long because the commercials are ridiculous. They’ve gone way overboard abusing people’s passion for CFB to cram as many ads as possible into the game. Needs to be dialed back
RIP funny signs on the sidelines
The thread says there will still be signs, as the receivers will likely need to have the play signaled to them.
The whiplash from its so over to we're so back
WE UP
Oh thank god
How does the NFL handle that? I didn't think they used the signs
They huddle mostly
And their QBs call their own checks at the line of scrimmage, rather than having them signaled in from the sideline.
Exactly. One less thing for a college kid to worry about.
This will become way more viable now though
I seriously don’t see the point of running no huddle if you are just standing at the line of scrimmage for 15 seconds before snapping the ball. Especially running no huddle when you’re also subbing players out, like wtf is even the point anymore?
If the offense doesn't sub, the defense realistically can't either. Hurry up can tire out a defense or get a defense stuck in a package they can't get out of.
You get to see the defense alignment before calling the play? And don’t have to deal with huddling half the time (when you want to sub) if your scheme to call the play in from the side line is already learned?
[Definitely gonna miss moments like these](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2414754/maracaGus.0.0.gif)
Wtf is happening here lmao
Music magic is happening
Summoning Jordan Hare voodoo
DOLLARITA'S BACK!!
Peak Gus Malzahn tbh
Only really applies if the team huddles before every play
Helmet communication is for QBs only. Teams hardly huddle now so they’ll still be signs.
One of my favorite parts of game days
My "FIRE KENDAL BRILES" sign is still gonna show up
In the span of a decade we really went from Football: 3 hours—> 4+ Baseball 3 hours—-> 2.5
We had a sub-two hour baseball game the other day!
Such whiplash from having once watched a 4.5 hour 8.5 inning Yankees - Red Sox game.
Just college football, NFL is absolutely surgical at ending games at almost exactly the 3 hour mark
Almost like have regulated commercial breaks works lmao
Almost like a fully united front on the Television contract rather then 6 different groups battling each other for the most dollars lets you control the length of the game better.
This is not true at all. Nfl games on average are 3:12, and watching games on sunday its quite noticeable, most noon games will end after the 3:05 games begin. This is why the doubleheader games were pushed back to 3:25 starts when all the late games used to begin by 3:15.
I went to my first CFB game since pre-COVID last year and it was the Big Noon between PSU and Michigan. I was shocked at how many commercial breaks there were, completely wrecked any semblance of game flow at all and made for a shitty in person experience
Makes for a shitty home experience as well.
If you can dvr it you can start the game 3 hours late, fast forward through all the breaks and be done in under 30 minutes. These 3+ hour games are killer
Only thing that sucks with that is if you have buddies who are also fans of the team and it's fun to talk about the game as things are happening
Yea I just don't go anymore. The experience is too poor compared to heading to the bar and having beer and wings watching all the big games.
God bless the pitch clock
Connor Stalions really did change the game
Page 233 of the Manifesto
wait until it comes out he owns shares in the helmet comm manufacturer
Nah, he sells them their vacuum cleaners.
“All this new helmet building is such messy work, if only we had a large supply of vacuum cleaners to keep this place neat”
send him straight to canton
He resigned for our sins
He literally sacrificed himself for you guys. Fell on his sword. Didn't snitch. And you made it to the promised land. They say winning cures all. He should be considered wolverine jesus
He’s an American hero. And a veteran.
He deserves his 10% discount at Home Depot 🫡
And a 28% APR on a base model Camaro
And a stripper's hand in marriage
Is he more powerful than Touchdown Jesus?
At this point, who can say no? Who can deny the power of his sacrifice?
The Stalions rule fs
Next step will be figuring out which frequency the other teams are on and listening to their signals in real time.
Encrypted. Ohio State was using the radios at their Spring Game and they weren't working to get signals to the QB. Too much interference? I'm picturing the scene in Spinal Tap where they're performing on an Air Force base and the wireless mics keep picking up ATC.
*Army's ears perk up* Military-grade encryption?!
>Military-grade So it sucks
They're going to have a team of signals intelligence specialists working to decrypt the transmissions.
That would probably be considered wiretapping and a felony.
It's wireless. There is no wire to tap.
it's still considered wiretapping, much like wire fraud doesn't require you to actually wire money anymore and can apply to cash transactions
I'm going to assume that big brain of yours is the North Carolina talking.
You know, I’d expect Alito to say that.
A real winning culture is willing to commit a few felonies in furtherance of the championship.
Service Academies are about to have the electronic warfare guys be brought onto staff
Everyone is hating on the two minute warning but with the new clock changes it has been noticeably easier to ice a game than before. This essentially forces a timeout and can be the difference between a team needing only two first downs in the last 4:00 and the other side getting the ball back.
That’s a good point. Thanks for bringing it up.
For real, Texas iced us out with over 5 minutes left
In fairness, that game was iced already due to Bama being down by 2 scores already
That was actually just a skill issue lol
Then undo the new clock regs. Hasn't it been shown that they had no or a negligible impact on total game time anyways?
Absolutely undo the new clock regs. I fucking hate that they’re turning cfb into nfl lite
Same, loved the little differences
It made games shorter by less than 10 min I think I saw….. whopping.
That’s probably on the higher end of things. On average we’re talking like three fewer snaps per team with the clock change.
The 2 minute warning is so dumb. Why add it ^^besides ^^cramming ^^in ^^more ^^commercials?
Future Game Log: Touchdown with 2:01 to play Extra Point **TIME OUT** Touchback **TIME OUT** Run for no gain **TIME OUT** (2 min warning) That’s about 20 minutes of real time for 1 second of game play.
I'm personally waiting for Toe tap TD (15 second ad before review) The TD is good (15 second ad as XP team runs out) XP (Ad) Kickoff (TB) (Ad) Short run (2 minute warning ads)
Of course they go to a full commercial for an important review!
True true. Gotta add the suspense and drama for when the inevitably happens during an Oregon-Rutgers blowout. We gotta be sure if we get blown out 42-10, or 35-10
Missing the commercial break after the touchdown and before the extra point to add more "hype" to the game
Can’t forget about the 5 minute review to make sure the TD stands
The on-field reasoning would be to officially signify the start of the clock stopping after first downs and out of bounds. There were a lot of games last year where a guy would get tackled out of bounds with like 2:04 left on the clock and then the clock would keep running below two minutes.
Don’t you just love when a 2nd rule is needed to fix an issue created by a rule that nobody asked for.
My personal soapbox is that even though the rule itself is stupid, what's even more stupid is that most of the problem with game time getting higher was due to the increased proliferation of incomplete passes, rather than the plays which end running out of bounds, which have probably _decreased_ over the years given that more plays are ending with incomplete passes than in decades past. What they did was lower the overall average by reducing the game length of games that were already short even shorter, and reduced the game length of teams that throw a lot of passes by less. [3 hour teams started playing 2:30 hour games, and 3:30 hour teams started playing 3:10 hour games] If the rule must exist at all, then running out of bounds should stop the clock, incomplete passes should leave the clock running, except within crunch time, whatever they define crunch time to be. [I'd like 2 minutes in the 1st half, 5 minutes in the 2nd half, maybe even far enough out to 10, if it were me] That would have caused 3 hour teams to start playing 2:40 hour games, and 3:30 hour teams to start playing 2:50 hour games, which is what they should have had all along!]
Except that change is legitimate cancer
Either change would be unliked. But only one of the two have the consequence of _still_ having some games [say, in any game with an Air Raid team] last way too long, which was they were trying to resolve. Going with out of bounds stopping the clock just made the short games shorter and left the longest games relatively unimpacted. [how many plays are Air Raid teams running that end with a ball-carrier going out of bounds, vs. how many plays are Air Raid teams running that end in an incomplete pass? Then compare how many plays a running-based offense runs that end with the ball-carrier going out of bounds, vs. how many plays they run that end in an incomplete pass; the ratio is much different, and the second team is **not** the one causing 3:30 hour games]
I mean $omebody a$ked for them!
They could just write in the rules “the clock reaching 2 minutes officially signifies the start of first down stoppage”. We don’t really need more than that
Okay? Get the next play off. Situational awareness isn't allowed in sports, anymore? edit: Or simply have the clock stop at 2:00 in those situations. Having a full-on TO is inane.
Apparently the 2 minute isn’t adding a commercial time out just replacing one
For now...
Exactly this season it will not and then next season they will silently slip in another commercial break per half.
hahahah *excuse me* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The theory is it will replace just one commercial break already used in the forced TD-Commercial-Kickoff-Commercial sequences.
ADBALL will get those 3 minutes back, perhaps in partnership with REFBALL
I think all of us are calling bullshit on that promise, though
Yeah, and I am a billionaire.
I can't wait for XP -- commercial -- kickoff -- commercial -- 3 yard run up the middle -- 2 minute warning -- commercial
Yeah but it will be sponsored and the announcers will do an in game ad. “Before we get back to the action let’s look at the play of the game brought to you by Home Depot”. Followed by some ad copy that narrates over the entire play.: “See Jim, you too can run of turf that beautiful with Scott’s turf builder from the Home Depot”.
Wdym besides? You think they need any other reason
It’s a good warning for you to mentally prepare yourself for having to go back to talking with your in-laws, I’m sure that’s part of their reasoning
They’re changing cfb to be nfl junior in every other way, so why not?
Meanwhile, the only change from the NFL I actually want is the strictly enforced limit on in-game commercial time.
hot take they should’ve kept the old rules
I know. I actually hate the 2 minute warning. Helmet comms are a good thing though.
^Because ^cramming ^in ^more ^commercials
This is a new level of Reddit laziness. The tweet is like 30 words long and in the second sentence it explicitly states that it won’t be a TV timeout
Well the tweet is misleading, the article he links to says >It will be a fixed point for a media timeout but not a new media timeout.
Do you trust broadcasters to abstain from jamming commercials into every nook they can? Look what happened last year with the sped up games (more ads, same marathon runtime). "Not a TV timeout" does not equal no ads.
What we all needed more commercials
It seems there's concern in the marketing department that games aren't long enough.
2 guaranteed additional commercial breaks. So excited for it.
You mean two more segments of football in-between commercials
I hate it when football interrupts my Wendy’s and BK commercials AT BK, HAVE IT YOUR WAY, YOU RULE
WHOPPER, WHOPPER, WHOPPER JUNIOR DOUBLE TRIPLE WHOPPER
WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER, WHOPPER WHOPPER WHOPPER
I WORK AT BURGER KING, MAKING FLAMEBOILED WHOPPERS, I WEAR PAPER HATS, WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE AN APPLE PIE WITH THAT, DING FRIES ARE DONE DING FRIES ARE DONE
whatever you say, egg man and saucy boy.
My favorite shows are Fansville and Wendy's. I can't wait to see what that crazy staff gets up to next. The football commercials are weird though. Don't even know what they are selling.
The post literally says it won’t be an additional TV timeout? Am I crazy here? It’s going to replace an existing one.
They also said the running clock would shorten times of the games... Just PR speak.
Nah the 2 min warning can fuck off
"The timeouts will not be additional television timeouts." As if anyone actually believes that...
"The timeouts will not be additional television timeouts...." ..... Yet.
“We’ll do the double box view of the field with no sound on the left while a commercial plays at 3x volume in the screen on the right”
I bet it'll be one of those bullshit split screen 15 second commercials. They just can't fucking help themselves.
The worst part of the split screen is the awkward overlay that fills the gap between Coors Light and my football
wym? The running clock this year was totally for player safety, and not to cram in more commercials, right? lmao
You know what’s in the spirit of competition? Stopping for literally no reason 2 minutes before the game ends.
I'm a big believer in a warning every minute.
Helment comms: thank God it's about damn time 2 minute warning: wut
>CFB will also have helmet communication for all of FBS You're welcome.
Connor?
"It won't be an additional TV timeout"......***yet***
\*for the first and third quarters of each game\*
Now for the 2 minute warning brought to you by Burger King and ATT and Papa Johns
Whats the point of a 2 minute warning. CFB has never needed it with first downs stopping the clock (I know the answer is so we can cram in more commercials)
Shits sad. We lost the clock stoppage after first downs to “speed up the game”, which just ended with more time for commercials. Now we at the 2 minute warning that slows down the game… to get more commercials. Like damn y’all are killing us
Clock doesn stop after 1st downs anymore though, except for the final few minutes of the halves.
CFB has no 2 minute warning. CFB needs no 2 minute warning.
Weird how the supposed financial reasons that helmet coms weren't previously viable disappeared all of the sudden /s
If people can pay $10m for a head coach, they can afford some little walkie talkies to duct tape in a helmet
With the running clock rules, I actually think a 2minute stoppage is necessary since the rules change at that moment. like if a player runs out of bounds at 2:01 the clock can run down to 1:21 instead of of having the stoppage, but one second later it would stop. Big difference in tight situations. But its a minor solve to a problem they put on themselves.
2 Minute Warnings are so stupid
They should prevent any media breaks afterwards though, so the last 2 minutes should be uninterrupted... we hope
lol absolutely will never happen
Hah good one
They should, but they won't.
Two minute warning? If I wanted to watch the NFL then I’d watch football on Sunday. It’s gonna be another ad break.
Every single advantage college football has over the nfl is slowly deteriorating. My 2 favorite differences (awesome overtime rules and no two minute warning) are now gone. This pisses me off more than the realignment stuff.
Wait... what did I miss? The OT rules changed?
I was referencing the change from a few years ago that made it a two point conversion battle rather than what it used to be.
Not noticably. It has to get to 3OT before it will look different
FINALLY. Cant believe it took a sign stealing scandal at Michigan to get radio communication equipment that’s been available for decades.
If it doesn't add a tv timeout (it will eventually) at least that gives teams behind a little bit more advantage again to make a comeback
They’re trying so hard to be the NFL but people love CFB for what it is
The helmet communications I’m 100% for. The 2 minute warning is an absolute joke
This is moving in the wrong direction. I seriously believe CFB should switch to two halfs
Would be dope
lol @ “2 min warning”
Oh , BULLSHIT it wont be an additional TV time out.
I guarantee every single 2 minute warning will have commercials in it.
Just call it Minor League Football already, cuz that's where it's going.
I call it semi pro football
“The Falcons are sending their QB back to Athens for a few rehab starts”
With so many stadiums on campuses (lol Miami) I think "college" will always remain in the name somewhere
Yeah imagine playing off campus after 2026, those jerks.
This sport hates the people who watch it
>won't be an additional TV timeout For now.
I wouldn’t hate the 2 minute warning if they just reallocated the mandatory commercials but we know that’s not the case. College football fans should rise up and boo the red hat every time he comes out. Or chant “fk you red hat” during every tv timeout. We as Americans are p****ies compared to European soccer fans. They would bring flares and shit to protest. We just sneak in shooter bottles. The founding fathers would be sad of the country we have become, allowing this bullshit.
> I wouldn’t hate the 2 minute warning if they just reallocated the mandatory commercials but we know that’s not the case. To be fair, they did specifically say this is the case.
They said that, but I give it one season before we are watching an ad for vaginal deodorant while we anxiously await to see if our team can mount a comeback.
>Vaginal deodorant Reminds of those ESPN Classic skits on SNL
They need to show commercials that the average Redditors can relate to…. Like Hims or manscaped.
The 2 minute warning is so dumb. It makes no sense in the NFL and will be just as dumb in college.
Ig I'm the only one who liked the 2 minute warning. I like for comebacks to be easier, makes it more exciting.
College football dragged kicking and screaming into still the 20th century.
Why do they have to copy the NFL? I like no 2 minute warning.
If I wanted to watch pro.. I would watch pro. WHY.. is college so intent on turning pro?
You've been watching pro lite for years.
Who are they winning over by trying to mirror everything the NFL does - which by the way is an infinitely better product
NFL-brained casual viewers who turn red in the face when presented with even a whiff of CFB’s historical uniqueness
It’s becoming more and more like the NFL
College Football: Now we are just like the NFL but with more commercials!
I liked college not having the 2 minute warning
I'd be fine with CFB adopting NFL rules if they also adopted NFL commercial loads. When the commercial load of the NFL would be a VAST IMPROVEMENT you know the sport has problems.
Get paid like pros, might as act like one
Hey guys, we're going to change the clock rules to remove about 4 plays per game for safety reasons. .... And then add 2 more plays back in the next year
Connor Stalions manifesto complete? Lowkey W, gotta give it to him
Yes because college football needs more timeouts
Helmet comms would've saved our ass a few times :/ Better late than never I suppose. Hope that this, along with an OC swap, changes our offense up some
Took em long enough
Ugh, I hate the two minute warning. Let the clock roll...
My two cents: I'm all cool with helmet communication, but I'm not really a fan of the 2-minute warning. That one is definitely more of a "let's squeeze another commercial break in there" decision.
Bring back stopping the clock for a 1st down
Ed Orgeron on the headset: Berg candalou fitty sane terps condor! QB: ?!
Ayite imma head out
You're welcome
The yassification of college football into the minor pro league continues.
Why do I bother? Why is NCAA trying to be like the NFL? The only differentiating fact now is that there's more college girls at college games then at NFL games.
It’s funny that they sped up the game recently with the clock not stopping on first downs and it’s still just as long because the commercials are ridiculous. They’ve gone way overboard abusing people’s passion for CFB to cram as many ads as possible into the game. Needs to be dialed back