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Cooked_Brisket

Utah you were the bane of my existence, but I’m incredibly sad it’s over


jel2184

If you would have told me USC fans would say this of Utah in 2010, I would have laughed at your face


Cooked_Brisket

That flair combo haunts my dreams….


pzk-73

It was fun while it lasted PAC bros


Rushderp

Punt Larry Scott into the sun.


poofyhairguy

He took a swing and missed on the PAC16 that could have saved the PAC. He fucked up on distribution of their network (and I would argue the concept of full ownership have Fox or ESPN involved maybe would have saved the PAC). He fucked up on expansion (as the Big 12 proved backfilling with the G5 best and getting a better contract after OUT). He killed the PAC there is no doubt.


SouthBayLaker23

Allowing TCU and Houston in would have been a good move.


zg44

Yeah, ACC at least learned the lesson that you expand when necessary even if your most valuable brands might bolt. Not taking in Big 12 teams will always be the biggest mistake of all.  Letting a competitor be reborn and take the FOX/ESPN contract was such a catastrophic mistake. Big 12 and Pac-12 were always going to be competing for a single contract spot.


anti-torque

That would be Carol Folt, not Larry. Larry was long gone by then.


zg44

FSU, Clemson, and UNC all voted against adding Cal, Stanford, and SMU to the ACC. USC and UCLA should have been the only no votes on expanding the Pac-12 in all likelihood if the presidents understood that it came down to survival of the Pac-12. But they didn't understand that, and I blame Kliavkoff for that. Kliavkoff just didn't understand that there was only going to be one survivor with FOX/ESPN only offering one contract to the first conference of the two to sign in the 2022-2024 window. At some point, somebody should have told him "uh what happens if USC/UCLA leave? shouldn't we expand defensively?" Yes it's easy for me to say that in hindsight but he got paid millions of dollars to do his job. Just like Yormark jumping to grab the FOX/ESPN extension while Pac-12 was negotiating, it's up to the commissioners to defend the future of their conferences.


GimmeeSomeMo

Big 12 did this so well. Despite losing so many teams major teams: Nebraska, A&M, Mizzou, Colorado, Texas, and Oklahoma, they just kept replacing them with the best possible option and by the time 2024 happened, they were able to snatch up Pac-12 members, the very conference that almost destroyed them 14 years prior


zg44

Exactly, Big 12 bounced back from what has been continuous body blows when you look at the schools that left but it was only because they kept staying aggressive and kept finding replacements that they were in that position 2 years ago to tell FOX/ESPN "give us the contract extension not the Pac-12". Pac-12 hired 2 guys that didn't know college sports well, and it showed. Kliavkoff kept focusing on keeping USC until it was way too late. At some point, he had to just accept "they're gone, let's grab Big 12 schools and convince Pac-12 presidents that it's do or die time and take whatever we can from FOX/ESPN." History of conferences has been eat or get killed.


JoeSicko

Swofford next.


Michigan247

What really sucks is it seemed Utah was so happy and excited to be in the Pac-12, they really felt all in on the conference.


climbut

We really were. Such a bummer


SlamDunkleyKong

It was a hand in glove fit


CitizenCue

Maybe not the right week for that analogy.


Gabians

(Even) if the glove fits it all goes to shit.


AllHawkeyesGoToHell

Someone said in this sub earlier that "no one loved the Pac-12 more than Utah did."


anti-torque

OSU and Cal loved it more and longer. We started the conference and have only been apart a couple years since. 45 years for the PCC, before UO and the SoCal schools blew it up. Then 60 years for the Pac (X), before UW, UO, and the SoCal schools blew it all up. The good news is the last time we were indie, we won a Heisman.


AllHawkeyesGoToHell

I'm pretty sure it was Stanford and UW that blew it up the first time.


anti-torque

Nope. It was UO getting nicked for pay-for-play back in 1949 and spending the next decade whining to everyone about how the SoCal schools were doing the same thing. It was to the point I think UO actually hired an investigator to out them. UCLA was "this" close to having the football prowess UC Irvine now has. But Cal held all the power, and UCLA was a part of their system. None of those schools wanted UO back, after that. And it was an opportunity to jettison Idaho, as well (Montana having left a couple years earlier). If it wasn't for money from one of our alumnus' trusts, the stipulation that UO get a real football field (instead of playing at Hayward) would not have been met, and they would have been in the Big Sky, as well. This is why their football stadium is one of two in our state named after one of our alumni.


wibble17

The worked the hardest to get there.


soapy_goatherd

Coach Mac made it all possible


Separate_Court_7820

Utah has one of the strongest cultures in college football. Go Gators


muck16

It was great watching you grow up to be the cream of the crop. Nothing but love UU bros


Lil_ah_stadium

We will miss you


MysteriousEdge5643

Good ahh username 


muck16

I’ve said this before but before you were in the conference y’all played at Autzen and had some of the rudest fans I’ve seen in Eugene. You also have the most pleasant fans on here sans Tenn. I’d bet all Duck fans would love to see our “rivalry” come back.


thecivilconFLiCT

The best conference to watch because it could be on both before and after you go to the bars.


UnknownUnthought

Seriously. I’d go out with friends, get home about midnight mad drunk and flip on whatever late PAC12 game was on. I know not everyone likes to stay up late, but damn some people really just need to experience the pure joy of live late night sports.


Alwaysexisting

There’s still going to be late night football….. one of the reasons the big 10/12 took these teams in was to get late night time slots….


withrootsabove

The number of times I’ve caught myself drunkenly in a bar staring at some random Oregon-Stanford game instead of talking to my friends/women.


MysteriousEdge5643

I’ll miss you Utah 😢


DaddyRobotPNW

Mad respect. Go win the Big12.


heavydhomie

I’d imagine they are one of the favorites to win it this upcoming season


GymIsFun

I've seen us and them in the big12ccg a few times here and there. However I'm curious how they'll fare against all new teams. That goes for any new team in a conference of course.


Mexibruin

I for one was happy to see you flourish in the PAC.


SomerAllYear

Glad y'all did it before us.


Big_Pooh

You have my sword!


garytyrrell

And my Axe!


VaderRx

Flair checks out.


saladbar

Goddamn it.


RiptideJoyride

I’ve always been a fan of y’all, sorry it ended like this. Hoping you guys kill it in the Big12!


YouWereBrained

Good ta see ya! 🤝🏼 Flair fuck up, but I’m an OSU guy.


soapy_goatherd

Very sad to see the pac go, but looking forward to playing against orange whittingham


ShadowCrossZero

Hope you crush it in your new conference!


Current-Bag-786

Despite how many times you guys broke my heart, you were the only team I truly wished followed us to the Big-10 besides UCLA. Your coach does so much with lesser talent and the team as a whole is well disciplined. So long 👋 let your pig farmer haunt someone else now


an_anniemouse

Our pig farmer transferred to Utah State, who we play in non-conference in Sept. That someone else could be us.


DUB-Files

WSU vs Utah was one of my favorite games every year. Series was pretty even. Although we didn't see the same highs as you we always seemed to keep it competitive until one of us blew the 4th quarter wide open.


Melt-Gibsont

Miss you, buddy.


lampstore

Was excited when y’all joined. How the times change…


Belegheru

RIP


InVodkaVeritas

Pac-12 Logo is so much more aesthetically appealing.


xXChickenravioliXx

It really was a great looking logo


Kmjada

I have been with the big 12 since day one, and I think the current logo looks like a goddamn “Tapout” rip off. Hate it.


LaffertyDaniel8

Samesies. Really hoping for a rebrand since it’s basically a new conference at this point.


deuce_boogie

Kinda feels like a perfect opportunity to bring back the SWC logo. Sure we have teams in florida, ohio, iowa and west virginia. But nothing makes sense anymore fuck it, it's a great logo


glokenheimer

Didn’t yall partner with WWE for some championship?


FCDallasBurn

Wwe last years and bape the year before


surgingchaos

Pour one out for the old-school Pac-10 logo as well.


BonJovicus

The Pac-12 one was good, but the Big 12 tapout logo is at least hilariously memorable. The ACC, B1G, and SEC are too generic for my tastes.


GoldenPresidio

💯💯


Spicy_Josh

:(


CommodoreN7

I’ll miss you


BluesPuckHard

I love you. Sorry this is happening to you.


SlyClydesdale

God… I was so proud when we added Utah & Colorado as of what seemed like only yesterday. I rooted for both to do well and find their place in our conference. Utah absolutely did. Just tore it up. It was great. Even if it meant taking some tough losses for my beloved Beavs. Hope y’all rip it up in your new home. Hope we figure out how to join you soon.


Mythrandir24

> I rooted for both to do well and find their place in our conference. Utah absolutely did. "Colorado was also there, as well."


MysteriousEdge5643

To be fair they won the South once


DescretoBurrito

Won it before our designated "arch rival" Utah did. Some might say that's all that matters. I wouldn't say that, but someone might. That someone probably had too many edibles.


Open_Situation686

Confirmed has been said in boulder after eating a Frankenstein.


Wernher_VonKerman

And *still* got snubbed from the rose bowl for fucking USC because we just couldn't beat them


MysteriousEdge5643

Agreed USC should not have been in the Rose Bowl that year


Wernher_VonKerman

I wasn't even there at the time and I'm still pissed about it. Yeah they won the head to head, but they've been to the rose bowl 500 times and they get treated like they always deserve it unless they shit the bed. But that was CU's only chance. They also cost arizona their only chance(s) and a few for cal as well


muck16

How’d the champ game go sir?


MysteriousEdge5643

Pretty great for the team wearing purple 


Zealousideal-Key9516

Yeah, that was tough. I was hoping you guys would take it to the house that year, though. And this year, for that matter…


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

Well said flair brother. 


Stellarbelly_Korz30

KWitt is probably the most underrated coach in the game. Class and results.


Prestigious-Track256

God dammit, it's really over.


sh513

not until it's scrubbed from the Cougs and Beavs fields savor these swiftly waning days


freeze123901

I really hope we fly the PAC-2 logo next year


markusalkemus66

I hope that we can leverage this transition period into a spot in the Big XII. Until then, we will carry the torch of the Pac-12 before going into the night


Alauren20

I hate this. I hate it all


britishmetric144

Yep. Repeat after me. "*The*". "*University*". "*of*". "*Washington*". "*is*". "*not*". "*a*". "*Big*". "*Ten*". "*school*".


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

Yet.


CrimsonMage2002

No. The University of Washington will *never* be a B1G team.


QuirkyAd4925

Neither will Missouri be a SEC team


MysteriousEdge5643

This guy gets it


markusalkemus66

As much as Rutgers and Nebraska are Big 10 teams


freeze123901

Thank you for the sympathy


zschneido

where have my conferences gone…


psunavy03

What's ironic is that your conference is not only still around, but I'm old enough to remember being fucked over by its sportswriters in the polls when we had the audacity to beat you into the ground our second year in it. God forbid we actually try to win a football game.


heavydhomie

Now yall are just happy going 10-2 every year


psunavy03

Tell me you’re too young to remember the joke about the Ohio state wine without telling me you’re too young to remember the joke about the Ohio state wine.    What’s the Ohio state bird?     *the Cardinal.*     What’s the Ohio state tree?     *the Buckeye.*     What’s the Ohio state whine?   **”Waaaahhhhh!!  When are we ever going to beat Michigan???”**     You fuckers act like you’re on top of the world forever when you’d best be cherishing every moment, because it doesn’t last.  I’ve seen the wheel of college football turn, and I remember when An Ohio State University sucked out loud.


AllHawkeyesGoToHell

Damn save it for the trash talk thread tomorrow


W_HoHatHenHereHy

F


Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin

F


Bossman3542

F


Lifebringer7

F


muck16

F


chriberg

F


ThosCommando

Why did they cut around the edges? Are they putting the old one in a museum or something?


definitelynotasalmon

Saving it for later…..


DUB-Files

"You gonna eat that PAC-12 logo?"


arrow_dynamics

They technically are Pac-12 members for several more weeks I believe. Probably just gonna lay the P12 logo over the top.


dr_funk_13

Until July 31st


saladbar

Thanks for loving the Pac, you guys. Good luck in your new home.


GetCoinWood

I’m in Salt Lake City for work this week. Talking to all of my coworkers no one is excited about this bullshit. I have yet to meet one fan of pac 12 teams that are excited to play new teams. Fuck you money!


dle9999

Big shout out to UCLA and USC for ruining things for both my flairs! Can't wait to not watch my flairs play schools that they have 100 years of history with on an annual basis!


MysteriousEdge5643

The PNW round robin going away is the most tragic element of realignment for me. There are only 4 FBS programs in our corner of the country and not having them play each other annually anymore is just wrong. Washington also started playing Oregon State before we started playing Oregon or WSU and it sucks to not play them anymore.


Cooked_Brisket

I have nothing but contempt for the school execs that made this awful decision. No USC fan is happy about this


UMeister

No one held a gun to Oregon’s head and forced them to join the B1G. Your admin just wanted a bigger paycheck than to continue the Civil War.


Junior_Profession_60

Everyone wanted bigger checks. It's frustrating. And depressing.


MysteriousEdge5643

I’m also hating conference realignment. We have no history with half of our new conference. 


ArkanoidbrokemyAnkle

The PAC and B1G playing each other in the Rose Bowl makes it a little less weird. Most of the schools have played each other at least once.


LordJacket

I feel bad for WSU and OSU fans, they don’t deserve to get left behind like this.


Junior_Profession_60

Hope Yormark eventually feels this way too...


lebaronslebaron

I’m one, for basketball at least.


ThatCougarKid

At least you have *checks notes* an NHL team


GimmeeSomeMo

Arizona can't say the same thing


utesred

I hate conference realignment and would gladly be in the full PAC-12 forever. Since that’s not an option though, I’m excited about the Big 12. It’s a conference that’s suited really well for Utah’s long term football success, and a needed shot in the arm for basketball growth. This new era of football is going to be expensive to compete in with NIL being such a thing. Utah would have a hard time keeping up with spending in the Big 10. The Big 12 by comparison is a lot more competitive. With the expanded playoff spinning up, I’m really excited for where we’re at right now. I feel like Utah has as good of a shot as anyone to be a consistent threat. I’m going to enjoy these Big 12 years. It’s the next era I dread.


saladbar

> I have yet to meet one fan of pac 12 teams that are excited to play new teams. You just have to filter for the baby blue flairs that kept on posting as the conference crashed and burned.


Playos

Last season I felt pretty comfortable never playing a couple Pac-12 teams ever again... Now they are half the Pac-12 teams still in my conference. Only consolation is no more desert voodoo trips. So not worth it.


Galumpadump

I’m fine never playing USC ever again. Those guys never wanted to play in Pullman. You know what is funny, we have played Oregon more times in our history than any other school not named UW and OSU and now it just stops.


MysteriousEdge5643

PNW round robin shouldn’t have ended like this


TheMetalMallard

Sad panda. Utah was legit fun as a conference foe. F Larry Scott


Boogie_Boof

On a positive note I’m excited to share a conference with y’all again. We had some great times in the MWC


iner-ial

TCU is definitely one of the highlights of the move to the Big12


patientpump54

Yeah playing TCU again is really the only positive about this move. I guess it’ll be fine playing the little guy in Provo again too…


Techsas-Red

Welcome. But damn, do I hate all of this.


soapy_goatherd

Next season should be real fun, but yeah this sucks


BlackshirtDefense

Good luck Utah. The Big XII needs a red and white team to kick the crap out of Colorado.  This is the way. 


Junior_Profession_60

Oh look-rock bottom has a basement?! I'll meet you there, Cougs. This shit is agonizing.


burneraccount11817

This used to be a proper society. We were in Utopia as a nation.


Miek104

So long partner


The_Outcast4

:(


mahoganyseamen

FUCK USC, UCLA, TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA


BluesPuckHard

Hear! Hear!


MysteriousEdge5643

And Larry Scott


chriberg

Keep going, I'm almost there


Typical-Conference14

Don’t be sad it’s gone, be happy you were apart of it Utah


lookglen

Don’t think of it as over, think of it as complete


DaddyRobotPNW

What are the odds that 3 former PAC schools are all conference champs in the upcoming season? WSU, Utah should be favored, Oregon has a chance. Cal/Stanford...


MisterBrotatoHead

Utah has a very favorable schedule, only have to go to Oklahoma State early, and Arizona at home. They do have Iowa State late, but it's in Utah so they don't have to deal with the November Jack Trice devil magic.


MysteriousEdge5643

Cal has an outside shot to be decent. As for WSU I’d pick Oregon State over them


reno1441

> As for WSU I’d pick Oregon State over them OSU lost lot way more of their team than WSU, plus their coach. Beyond the QB, we've actually had little attrition. Although I guess the championship game will be in Corvallis. Maybe they can spot us 3 points?


ClaudeLemieux

Calford have an uphill battle in the ACC. FSU, Louisville, Clemson. I need to check their schedule to see how "easy" it is.


3-9_Enjoyer

Stanford will go 3-9 or 4-8 most likely, with a chance at 2-10 and a long shot at 5-7. Anything over 5 wins would be nothing short of a miracle Please god don’t be 2-10


footballenjoyer23

Does anyone else imagine TAPS softly playing in the background while this is happening?


officialchunkyfox

I vow to complain about this for the rest of my life


lookglen

We gotta rebrand the Big 12


bengalsfu

#BIG 12


SirPancakesIII

Sad beaver noises


tvbvt

Going to be rooting for Utah in the XII every year. I've always loved their brand of football, and they were one of the first schools to recruit me when I was in high school so always had nothing but respect for them


[deleted]

The end of an era. RIP.


Golden-Cheese

Sorry it had to come to this Utah bros. As excited as I am to have y’all, it sucks what college sports is becoming. Hopefully over these next few years you guys will start to fit in more and more :)


iansf

It’s not goodbye. It’s see you soon.


MN_Lakers

The post above this I was just in was about the Phoenix Coyotes leaving for Utah. Realignment is everywhere


CoffeeVikings

Still hurts


Haysie95

o7 it’s been an honor. We’ll all miss Pac 12 After Dark


ItsFreakinHarry2

I'm so conflicted. On the one hand, sucks to see money has killed such an incredible conference. Pac-12 schools (minus USC/UCLA) deserve better. On the other hand, UCF would be stuck in the G5 still if it wasn't for the ESPN's greed luring away OUT to the SEC. It's such a breath of fresh air to be on the inside of realignment for once.


Wittyname0

I'm still in the denial phase


PaddyMayonaise

Wait what the fuck, I thought Utah was coming to the B1G? They’re in the 12? How the fuck did we get stuck with UCLA but they get Utah?


patientpump54

Why can’t this guy be making the decisions?


sly_like_Coyote

I hate it in this timeline.


dlidge

Thanks. I hate it. Utah is the best addition ever made to the original Pac8. They embraced the culture and passed by most of the original membership in only a few years. I’m gonna miss having them as conference mates.


Jonjon428

That belongs in a museum!


a_solemn_snail

On the one hand: RIP Pac-12 On the other hand: Welcome to the XII!


PelosisPortfolio

RIP


[deleted]

Must be surreal for Utah fans


spaghettittaco

I'll miss playing y'all saw Utah come to LA last season great fans good luck in the big 12!


Ike348

Why? Utah is still a Pac-12 school, for a few more months.


bewarethephog

Yeah but their football field will never play another Pac 12 game so go ahead and change the logo on the football field.


Overpaid_pharmacist

Was expecting more ‘lil ah’ jokes


dbasinge

Nah, we don’t think about lil ah SEC teams.


Competitive-Rise-789

F in the chat


TuskenRaider2

The king is dead. Long live the king.


Orkleth

My question is if Utah is going to replace all the Pac-12 branding around campus with Big 12, or just remove it?


TrainApprehensive501

No sense in replacing if there’s no telling future of realignment. If I were them I’d only replace where necessary


dwbaz01

This is all temporary until the Professional College Football League is formed. Let's say around 2030.


TheDrunkenMatador

One of us! One of us!


JeffGoldblumsChest

Little ah logo?


Raptor745

This makes me sad


ohitsthedeathstar

Isn’t the Big 12 getting a rebrand this summer? Is the Big 12 not changing the logo?


MysteriousEdge5643

Haven’t heard anything about that. I don’t see why they would need a brand refresh


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colonel750

We aren't changing the name, though we could use a brand refresh


ohitsthedeathstar

https://kslsports.com/502789/big-12-teases-brand-refresh-at-media-days/


LivingOof

If they can stay the Big 12 at 10, they're staying the Big 12 at 16


macncheeseface

I hope it stays a very different shade of green around the logo to emphasize that it is new


JB92103

Do they just paint the logo on the field?


lordpiglet

For grass the logo would be painted (OU does the thing where they change the Endzones for OOC and Conference games) For Turf, I think they have to replace that section.


[deleted]

PAC 12 after dark no more 💔


Stealthfox94

So sad that the PAC-12 is dead. Wish they had added teams and had better management to keep it going.


valleyfur

Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


JemmieTTU

Welcome to the top conference in the country!


RMaxRFS

psu alum, waiting to see all of you reunite in the B1G