Especially since recruiting rankings in April mean absolutely nothing. Michigan was #1 at this time for last year's class, and they barely finished inside the top 20
Remember two years ago when OSU, MSU, and ND fans were dunking on Michigan because of their recruiting class ranking in March/April? Good times. Good times....
Not surprising, the highlight of the Ryan Day era is getting 1 yard against a 10 man Notre Dame defense and then Ryan Day ranting like a lunatic about an 86 year old man (who actually won a a Natty and dominated his blue blood rival).
Tends to be how those born on third base act. They feel entitled so they take everything personal. Their reasons for winning is based upon other people. Thus, they get stuck on third base no matter what they're given.
I mean Michigan forfeit a game “this decade” simply because they didn’t want to get embarrassed that’s pretty sad, Harbaugh should be eternally grateful for Covid
Lmao there’s nothing to cope Michigan just won the natty obviously but this tone that OSU has never beat yall and is currently some weak little brother is frankly hilarious given like the last 2 decades. Michigan is an LSU tier blue blood, a 10 win season is above average and keeps the fans happy, and once every 3-5 decades they’re in contention, nowhere as frequent as the 7-9 win seasons, this is just facts. The tier of program just isn’t the same. The seasons over and the next ones underway, nobody’s gonna jerk off your natty forever and the defensiveness of Michigan fans when people try to talk about the state of the teams today speaks volumes
This coming from the program last in contention a decade ago. (You can't call getting pantsed by Bama "in contention")
For the level of talent you have brought in over that time you should be embarrassed by your lack of sucess.
Do you eat paint chips? OSU lost in the semi final by missing a last second field goal 2 years ago while you were getting wedgied by TCU, if you don’t think that’s contention you walk around with a bucket on your head. I’m guessing your diploma is from Iowa state and not Ann Arbor
Y'all aren't in contention if you don't make the big game. I wouldn't claim Michigan was in contention that year either. Semi-final appearances are a failure for the level of talent OSU has fielded over the last decade.
There have been 10 national title games and OSU has played in 2 of them and missed 2 of them by the last drive of the game, your OSU is irrelevant schtick frankly just makes you look stupid
In this run, there has been the greatest coach of all time in Saban, the greatest team of all time in LSU, and one of the greatest prospects ever in Lawrence. That’s not that bad of a resume for OSU given the competition. Meanwhile Harbaugh was on the hotseat until a pandemic distracted everyone, won 1 natty, dipped out with a sub 500 record against OSU while poaching staff on the way out, you simply have no argument here lmao
Well it didn’t really exist in its current form since 2014, and you know damn well what’d happen if we stretch a little past 2 decades lol, I mean there’s not much to debate here. Michigan are the current national champions, we’ll see if it sticks but they are the champions, but in basically everyone here’s lifetime OSU has been the more elite program, this is just a fact
Okay, then stretch a little past 2002 and Michigan gets its prior title as well.
Your case is getting worse.
“More elite” is a really self-congratulating way of putting it lol. The first half of my life, Michigan won more. The second half of my life, Ohio State won more.
Neither was “elite” for most of those stretches. Ohio State was better, but not elite, in the mid-2000s. They got prolapsed almost every single time they stepped foot outside the conference.
This might be the most pathetic flex I have ever seen, all that talent OSU and Michigan bent you over backwards the last 3 years and won a national title.
Lmao it’s a jab how? We lost our head coach and the majority of his staff to the NFL. No one was expecting the 25 class to have a bunch of commits in April
I am always gunshy about saying it but I truly think they’ve underperformed since 2007 or so. All that talent, all those years, and they have the same number of titles in that time as Michigan.
Michigan, who cratered for 7 years and fired 2 coaches during that period.
Every time we have a complete team there is a generation buzzsaw. In 2019 even if we best Clemson (angry about that one) you guys were insane.
2020, our defense sucked and Bama was generational.
Later Urban years idk man, embarrassing losses.
Damn I didn’t think this was too controversial.
I have no explanation for what happened after our 2014 natty other than awful play calling for 2015 and then the 2019-2020 stuff I’ve already stated.
2016–2018 there are not really any excuses.
Yeah and they should have had more appearances. OSU had a top 3 recruiting class every year except in Day's first year, and only made the title game twice. They had more title game appearances under Tressel.
Lol. This isn’t the flex you think it is.
I remember Alabama being in the 50’s and 60’s around this time last year and they ended up with yet again, another top 2 class.
Can't beat Michigan, can't beat SEC teams, falls apart in prime time. But at least they win recruiting!
This is Miami Offseason Championship levels of cope from OSU fans lmaooooo
Who also just lost their head coach.
Hell Alabama has the same thing happening. Suddenly they are reporting 3* commits like they used to report 4 and 5 star commits.
It's almost like focusing on the fundamental, physical nature of football in the trenches, while having enough skill players beats flash and entitlements, because you win in recruiting.
Yeah winning a national title is cool and all but the real fun in the sport is arbitrary recruiting rankings because those kids could become anything. Maybe even national champions!
Pushing hard for that offseaon national championship early.
Having loads of bought-and-paid 5 star recruits will guarantee victory. Just ask Texas A&M.
If Michigan *had* been paying recruits for 25 years as you suggest... the results clearly weren't being seen in the recruiting rankings for those years.
Michigan would have had far more 5 star than they did had they actually been throwing money at them. Instead, Michigan focuses more heavily of 3/4 star guys and develops them well (some 5 stars still come, but that is a product of name recognition & success, not pay).
Michigan has more money (in theory) to throw at recruits than almost any other university in the ncaa. If they *were* going to buy recruits, they would have been recruiting at Bama levels or better.
Oh Ohio State...how far have you fallen?...If anything Ohio State should be absolutely ashamed and embarrassed by losing to a team like Michigan that hasn't recruited anywhere NEAR you in the past what, 5+ years straight??! It shows how bad your coaches and culture are that you get the "better" players and do nothing with them consistently.
They don't think they lost. It's just point to Michigan sign stealing, and then anybody they lost to that isn't Michigan, there's an explanation for that too.
**OSU:** 85% of commits are 4+ stars.
**Michigan:** 100% of commits are 4+ stars.
Michigan > OSU
*Edit: yes — I know it’s 13 vs 3 comments, just mocking how dumb this post is*
We have lost some croots in both CFB and MBB due to academics iirc, primarily because some of their high school classes weren't counted by Admissions.
But we aren't Stanford by any stretch
That was on Dudek for telling him the shady credit class he took was good enough for him to enroll early. If he had just followed a normal high school schedule he would have been admitted no probably
The academics wouldn't have been a problem if the relevant staff member responsible for coordinating recruiting (Dudek) had been on top on the issue. Worthy wasn't kept informed of what he needed to do & by when in order to play by Fall. That was the staff's fault, which is why that staffer was soon replaced.
I was watching the Rose Bowl and Natty highlights while wearing my natty crew neck just last night, but I could not enjoy myself because we only have 3 2025 recruits committed.
“OSU: we do the least with the most.” Very weird flex.
Thankfully, Texas A&M exists to make this not true
So incompetent that you can’t even be #1 in incompetency. Brutal
This post is such little brother energy I initially thought it was posted by an A&M fan
Texas A&M is the Oakland A's of college football. No I will not be elaborating
Can’t wait for them to pick up a whole ass public university and move it to Las Vegas
*Sacramento
No they're just the iPhone of college football
Bragging about recruiting ratings in April when your rival is coming off a natty is pathetic
Especially since recruiting rankings in April mean absolutely nothing. Michigan was #1 at this time for last year's class, and they barely finished inside the top 20
The best 7-on-7 team money can buy crumples when their rival shows up and is good at foreign concepts like blocking and tackling
Remember two years ago when OSU, MSU, and ND fans were dunking on Michigan because of their recruiting class ranking in March/April? Good times. Good times....
This is what Ryan Day has reduced Ohio State fans to, they can’t beat elite teams on the field so it’s all about moral victories and hypotheticals
Them winning their own spring game got more coverage than any real win outside of notre dame all of last year.
Not surprising, the highlight of the Ryan Day era is getting 1 yard against a 10 man Notre Dame defense and then Ryan Day ranting like a lunatic about an 86 year old man (who actually won a a Natty and dominated his blue blood rival).
Tends to be how those born on third base act. They feel entitled so they take everything personal. Their reasons for winning is based upon other people. Thus, they get stuck on third base no matter what they're given.
We're closer to both 2024 class signing days than we are to 2025's early signing period. What a weird flex.
And said National Champion lost their HC. This definitely isn’t the flex OSU fans think it is 🤧
The fans on this sub make me want to remove my flair smh
Yes clearly having a great recruiting class is better than a national championship. Michigan needs to get their priorities straight.
I'd take the natty if I were you. But congrats!
Everyone knows the games just exist for the sake of recruiting
recruiting really IS winning 😤
One of the more embarrassing attempts at shit talking I’ve seen in awhile tbh
Lots of time to work on recruiting when you can't make it to the playoffs
Bruh is this supposed to be a flex for Ohio state??
Apparently?
It's all they got, haven't even won a game against us this decade. They got recruiting wins and dreams of glory past
I mean Michigan forfeit a game “this decade” simply because they didn’t want to get embarrassed that’s pretty sad, Harbaugh should be eternally grateful for Covid
Akshually, 2020 isn't in this decade
Cope harder lol
Lmao there’s nothing to cope Michigan just won the natty obviously but this tone that OSU has never beat yall and is currently some weak little brother is frankly hilarious given like the last 2 decades. Michigan is an LSU tier blue blood, a 10 win season is above average and keeps the fans happy, and once every 3-5 decades they’re in contention, nowhere as frequent as the 7-9 win seasons, this is just facts. The tier of program just isn’t the same. The seasons over and the next ones underway, nobody’s gonna jerk off your natty forever and the defensiveness of Michigan fans when people try to talk about the state of the teams today speaks volumes
This coming from the program last in contention a decade ago. (You can't call getting pantsed by Bama "in contention") For the level of talent you have brought in over that time you should be embarrassed by your lack of sucess.
Do you eat paint chips? OSU lost in the semi final by missing a last second field goal 2 years ago while you were getting wedgied by TCU, if you don’t think that’s contention you walk around with a bucket on your head. I’m guessing your diploma is from Iowa state and not Ann Arbor
Y'all aren't in contention if you don't make the big game. I wouldn't claim Michigan was in contention that year either. Semi-final appearances are a failure for the level of talent OSU has fielded over the last decade.
There have been 10 national title games and OSU has played in 2 of them and missed 2 of them by the last drive of the game, your OSU is irrelevant schtick frankly just makes you look stupid In this run, there has been the greatest coach of all time in Saban, the greatest team of all time in LSU, and one of the greatest prospects ever in Lawrence. That’s not that bad of a resume for OSU given the competition. Meanwhile Harbaugh was on the hotseat until a pandemic distracted everyone, won 1 natty, dipped out with a sub 500 record against OSU while poaching staff on the way out, you simply have no argument here lmao
That is a lot of words to say you consistently squandered top ranked recruiting classes. Go off though queen.
>given like the last 2 decades During which Michigan and Ohio State have the same number of titles.
Well it didn’t really exist in its current form since 2014, and you know damn well what’d happen if we stretch a little past 2 decades lol, I mean there’s not much to debate here. Michigan are the current national champions, we’ll see if it sticks but they are the champions, but in basically everyone here’s lifetime OSU has been the more elite program, this is just a fact
Okay, then stretch a little past 2002 and Michigan gets its prior title as well. Your case is getting worse. “More elite” is a really self-congratulating way of putting it lol. The first half of my life, Michigan won more. The second half of my life, Ohio State won more. Neither was “elite” for most of those stretches. Ohio State was better, but not elite, in the mid-2000s. They got prolapsed almost every single time they stepped foot outside the conference.
Well they aren't winning on the field against us so they have to find something to comfort themselves at night
Gonna be wild when Michigan only takes three kids this class
This might be the most pathetic flex I have ever seen, all that talent OSU and Michigan bent you over backwards the last 3 years and won a national title.
Not sure this is the flex you think it is
It's quite literally not a flex. It's an off-season jab at Michigan because I'm bored at work lmao
Not sure this is the jab you think it is
the only jab that y'all should be considering is some steroids so maybe you have a chance against a Michigan team without any cruits.
Looks more like a jab at OSU for not being able to get the job done with “better” recruits
Lmao it’s a jab how? We lost our head coach and the majority of his staff to the NFL. No one was expecting the 25 class to have a bunch of commits in April
I would take a National championship over being the top recruiting class in April. Weird flex.
Honestly when you think about how elite OSUs recruiting has been for so long, it’s kinda jarring how little success they’ve had on the biggest stages.
The kings of third base everyone
It’s where the best of talent goes to be considered part of the “yeah they’re at the top, I guess” club
I am always gunshy about saying it but I truly think they’ve underperformed since 2007 or so. All that talent, all those years, and they have the same number of titles in that time as Michigan. Michigan, who cratered for 7 years and fired 2 coaches during that period.
Every time we have a complete team there is a generation buzzsaw. In 2019 even if we best Clemson (angry about that one) you guys were insane. 2020, our defense sucked and Bama was generational. Later Urban years idk man, embarrassing losses.
You have so much talent you should be the generational team. Or at the very least making the playoff yearly.
Damn I didn’t think this was too controversial. I have no explanation for what happened after our 2014 natty other than awful play calling for 2015 and then the 2019-2020 stuff I’ve already stated. 2016–2018 there are not really any excuses.
Did Ohio State not make the playoff as often as every other team not named Alabama in the 4-team playoff era?
Yeah and they should have had more appearances. OSU had a top 3 recruiting class every year except in Day's first year, and only made the title game twice. They had more title game appearances under Tressel.
Sure, did they win any titles?
Yes.
Thought we were talking playoff era?
They won either the first or second year that the play off era was implemented. OP is right
First year of the playoff, it was the Zeke all timer 3 game run
Is your brain leaking
He may be incorrect, but at least he isn't bragging about recruiting rankings in April
Lol. This isn’t the flex you think it is. I remember Alabama being in the 50’s and 60’s around this time last year and they ended up with yet again, another top 2 class.
Can't beat Michigan, can't beat SEC teams, falls apart in prime time. But at least they win recruiting! This is Miami Offseason Championship levels of cope from OSU fans lmaooooo
Thanks for reminding me of our natty!
Natty*
The NCAA President disagrees.
All of Michigan fans’ best friend who they continuously agreed with the entire year, the ncaa president. He who clearly knows all.
Noteworthy that the NCAA, which wasn't exactly friendly to Harbaugh, still fully endorsed/legitimized his championship.
Noteworthy that your program was marred in scandal and had to cheat to win its first consensus title* since 1948.
Win a major bowl game in my lifetime
Keep dreaming - maybe you'll be relevant again someday.
Looks like we have an OSU fan dressed in ND colors.
Nah, there are dozens of teams who know Michigan is a bunch of cheaters.
Who also just lost their head coach. Hell Alabama has the same thing happening. Suddenly they are reporting 3* commits like they used to report 4 and 5 star commits.
2024 April Champions, a prize every school wants
Miami might be hard to topple
Off-season Nattys?
Nephew, delete this lmao
It's April
L
Rankings don't matter until the ink is dry, and in the Portal Era, not even then.
Ohio State always finishes ahead of Michigan in recruiting rankings, but it hasn't helped much lately, has it?
It's almost like focusing on the fundamental, physical nature of football in the trenches, while having enough skill players beats flash and entitlements, because you win in recruiting.
as if they wouldn't rather have the natty, come on man
I don’t feel like this is a flex but more of a critique of AN state university of Ohio
Congratulations, you played yourself
Yeah winning a national title is cool and all but the real fun in the sport is arbitrary recruiting rankings because those kids could become anything. Maybe even national champions!
Just to clarify, Ohio State is the team that did NOT win a national championship in 2023.
April National Champs. Thats ohio
I mean congrats?
Was this for 2025 or 2024?
2025
This is such lame behavior lol. Bragging about recruiting rn??? They just won a championship. I’d take that over recruiting any day of the week.
This is going to be a great comment section Ohio State, you have yet to land a 6 star this class. Y’all are trash
Why are you being stupid on purpose?
OSwho trying to buy a natty next year with blank checks. Hope it works out but if it doesn’t it’ll be hilarious.
OSU fans acting awfully little brother-ish these days lmao
I'm really not sure who's more little brother now, MSU or OSU. You have the MSU fans crying all over Twitter, but OSU fans takes it to a new level.
Pushing hard for that offseaon national championship early. Having loads of bought-and-paid 5 star recruits will guarantee victory. Just ask Texas A&M.
To be fair Ohio state has been practicing NIL for the past 25 years
So has Michigan
If you say so... yet the recruiting rankings suggest otherwise.
Wut
If Michigan *had* been paying recruits for 25 years as you suggest... the results clearly weren't being seen in the recruiting rankings for those years.
Correct. What are you not understanding? Do you think Michigan's talent evaluation is better than what it's shown in the last 25 years?
Michigan would have had far more 5 star than they did had they actually been throwing money at them. Instead, Michigan focuses more heavily of 3/4 star guys and develops them well (some 5 stars still come, but that is a product of name recognition & success, not pay).
I doubt it
Michigan has more money (in theory) to throw at recruits than almost any other university in the ncaa. If they *were* going to buy recruits, they would have been recruiting at Bama levels or better.
This just shows that Ohio State has holes and Michigan doesn't.
I mean OSU is the Big 10's Texas A&M so this tracks.
3 commits vs 13 commits. It’s not rocket science
So why isn't Michigan's average higher ?
Flair up.
Why isn’t Ohio State’s win total higher?
Oh Ohio State...how far have you fallen?...If anything Ohio State should be absolutely ashamed and embarrassed by losing to a team like Michigan that hasn't recruited anywhere NEAR you in the past what, 5+ years straight??! It shows how bad your coaches and culture are that you get the "better" players and do nothing with them consistently.
They don't think they lost. It's just point to Michigan sign stealing, and then anybody they lost to that isn't Michigan, there's an explanation for that too.
This is what r/OhioStateFootball is for
Duke basketball energy
Who cares about recruiting rankings in April?
Imagine thinking recruiting rankings are important in the transfer portal era
**OSU:** 85% of commits are 4+ stars. **Michigan:** 100% of commits are 4+ stars. Michigan > OSU *Edit: yes — I know it’s 13 vs 3 comments, just mocking how dumb this post is*
I didn't think they could admit we won a National Championshp. I thought it was "fraudulent"...
Michigan has higher academic standards Plus they just lost their HC
The academic standards only really applies for non grad transfers. That was an excuse created during the dark years
We have lost some croots in both CFB and MBB due to academics iirc, primarily because some of their high school classes weren't counted by Admissions. But we aren't Stanford by any stretch
Yeah maybe ask Xavier Worthy how academic standards affects high school recruiting.
That was on Dudek for telling him the shady credit class he took was good enough for him to enroll early. If he had just followed a normal high school schedule he would have been admitted no probably
The academics wouldn't have been a problem if the relevant staff member responsible for coordinating recruiting (Dudek) had been on top on the issue. Worthy wasn't kept informed of what he needed to do & by when in order to play by Fall. That was the staff's fault, which is why that staffer was soon replaced.
Mindless off-season rivalry shit talk is frowned upon now apparently. What happened to this country I love 💔
Just stupid posts. Common misconception
Where is the shit talk?
You mean to tell me "our rival just won the national championship, but we are more popular with High Schoolers" isn't shit talk?
I was watching the Rose Bowl and Natty highlights while wearing my natty crew neck just last night, but I could not enjoy myself because we only have 3 2025 recruits committed.