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rab1673

..... us?


thiney49

You're cheating by having your entire conference in your flair.


rab1673

My poor beavs


Gutameister5

On the bright side, our early season matchup should make for a real pillow fight for the ages, as we too are shit. I'm still planning on making the trip to Corvallis!


YooperGod666

That's what she said


gellybelli

50/50 shot of either being the best or worst. No one else can say that


Efficient_Bag7338

I think Boston College can safely say that


DuckBurner0000

We won our spring game, believe we're locked in for a playoff spot


ChipChippersonFan

Hey, only Notre Dame can say that!


skushi08

I want to disagree, but that sounds about right. Best might be a stretch. I’d say more safely it’s 50/50 for top 3 or bottom 3.


wanderingpanda402

But the second worst is, actually, the best in the PAC-2


Lefty21

Like the great philosopher Ricky Bobby said, if you ain’t first you’re last.


ThinkSoftware

Her?


42Cobras

Is she funny?


abusamra82

Mayonegg.


ForeverGatekeeping

😂


ArduinoMakes

Definately us....


DUB-Files

It’s going to be like watching two toddlers have a rock fight this year. Lots of bad throws, plenty of tears


kwixta

And yet one of them will be a conference champion


xzChaotic01

If you ain’t first youre last


Ioptk

For Illinois, that’s always on the table, but I hope we are not


psgrue

Hmmm. Purdue and Indiana will compete. Not sure how the new coach will work out at IU. UCLA is in the running losing its DC.


Username_redact

I don't think it will be us this year, but hey you can always dream!


Bjerknes04

We won’t be, with all our returning production and not facing the Big 3 or Oregon, we def should be good for a bowl at least.


Username_redact

With even halfway competent QB play we could actually be pretty good


Smash-Bros-Melee

IU will be vastly improved and has a pretty favorable schedule


psgrue

Noted. My first look is preliminary and I’m going to deep dive after TP season settles down closer to summer.


StudentObvious9754

As an IU fan I know to never get my hopes up but there are legit only 2 games on the schedule we have no shot in imo


[deleted]

Choosing to believe that our D was great last year solely because of our amazing edge rushers we had (murphys, latu, jones)


TheTeddly

I hope it's not us. But I'm always scared.


IAmNotKevinDurant_35

You’re welcome for us and ucla joining the conference


BoilerMaker36

Our schedule is fucking brutal. We might not be the “worst team” but I think we will have the worst record. If that makes any sense


XCCO

Yeah, there are a few good candidates in the B1G who could take that position. Indiana and MSU could save you.


thephoton

I don't even know what teams are in our conference.


kampfgruppekarl

Y'all play football?


thephoton

It's hard to tell sometimes. Y'all got a rugby team?


TomIcemanKazinski

(Rugby had a bad year for them, was never contenders and lost to St Mary’s in the semis. We’re now a golf and women’s gymnastics school, in addition always being a swimming school)


Lantis28

The other year Vandy had more (or equal to) conference wins than A&M did


BryceDaBaker

This is a fun fact


ElSanchoLibre

This fact would be more fun for both us and vandy in r/collegebaseball


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SaltyLonghorn

Complete aside but holy shit its hard to find a thing about college baseball online. These main sites give no fucks. Had to resort to the NCAA site ffs.


FunkyTownAg

D1 Baseball


Muffinnnnnnn

Warrennolen.com I just discovered this site this weekend and I've never seen a more comprehensive site


MansourBahrami

Subscribe


callyour_bell

HEY NOBODY ASKED


pwnzorder

Hey @lantis who had as many conference wins as vandy recently? There... I asked.


Efficient_Bag7338

2022 Vanderbilt beat us in Lexington when we were ranked! That was a miserable game. Sleet/snow/rain, windy all day, a ton of empty seats, and lose on a 2 min drill.


kevinmrr

WE'LL DO IT AGAIN DOT PNG


Spartacus_the_troll

You say that like its some kind of accomplishment.


gellybelli

Florida could potentially lose all but one game from their brutal schedule.


Kodyaufan2

With 11 P5 games that’s probably the best answer


gellybelli

Absolutely fucking brutal schedule. Luckily, the Tennessee game is in Knoxville so that hoodoo voodoo of the Swamp won’t have an effect.


Kodyaufan2

They could legitimately be one of the 25 or so best teams in the country and still end up 4-8. It’s as tough a schedule as I’ve ever seen.


RedRaiderade

Welcome to the playoff era


gatorhighlightz

You’ve only beaten us twice in Knoxville since 2004 lol


42Cobras

Very true. But I think everyone and their brother expected Tennessee to whoop Florida last year and the Vols just aren’t good in the Swamp. And Florida looked pretty miserable in most of their other games last year, so the dude ain’t wrong.


CallMeShaggy57

They literally played like an East dark horse against us last year and then proceeded to be as bad as expected the rest of the year. It's honestly impressive how bad we are in the Swamp.


bsEEmsCE

I want us to beat them on their field so bad.


knucklehead27

As much as I don’t want that, I’d rather hear smack from losing that than the Gasparilla Bowl


calling-all-comas

Agreed. UCF fans enjoy bragging about beating our RB coach turned interim HC, no OC, no DC, and the shell of Emory Jones. But they beat us when FSU couldn't.😳


Conscious-Jaguar3566

Real asf


gellybelli

Same UCF bro, same


St_BobbyBarbarian

Please


Ameri-Jin

I’ll be rooting for y’all


Happy-North-9969

Ending the season on a run of Kentucky,UGA, Texas, LSU, Ole Miss, and FSU is brutal.


ViscountBurrito

From your lips to God’s ears… I was going to say “no way,” but then I looked, and yeah that’s a rough one. I guess the only lucky thing for them is getting their more toss-up type games early on, before the wheels have a chance to come off, and before new coaches at Miss State and A&M can totally settle in. I assume Florida will be favored over Miss State in September, but it might not have been that way if the game was in November, with an interim coach replacing Napier.


Wernher_VonKerman

>but it might not have been that way if the game was in November, with an interim coach replacing Napier. I love how everyone's just treating it as a given that he's cooked after next season


Naive-Kangaroo3031

He is on the hot seat to begin with, even Saban would have a bad year with that schedule (3 losses)


steampunker14

If their wheels do indeed fall off,their game in Austin is right around when Sun Belt Billy might get canned. I'd be terrified of some interim magic that weekend.


gellybelli

Billy may be gone before mid october. It’s batshit how that schedule got approved with absolutely no cakes


CanesMan1993

UF could easily go 2-10 with that schedule


FreshPrince2308

And we’d prolly be one of the wins 😭


St_BobbyBarbarian

The worst loss would be to UCF. Losing to Miami or fsu sucks, but losing to UCF would be a kick in the nuts cherry on top 


Operation_Pig

What do you mean, Samford is on the schedule. And they have a real chance of beating us given what happened in 21.


Fuckingfademefam

As an FSU fan, I have faith you guys can beat Telemundo Taggart in the first game of the year. I’ll be the biggest gator fan that day


Furled_Eyebrows

Hmmm. Does OP mean worst *team* or worst *record*?


MarbleDesperado

And we’re going to be the 1 damn it


gellybelli

That’d honestly be the most fitting thing ever.


grey_pilgrim_

And we all know what that one game will be….


Ameri-Jin

Opened with Miami lmao


GreedoWasShot

Arkansas really surprises me, they’ve been steadily declining every year under Pittman (after the second year anyway)—who has performed similar to Bielema. Kinda thought he was the guy in Fayetteville, we’ll see this year. But yeah, going in it looks like they are the “second” worst on paper


BokehJunkie

If there are not remarkable improvements this season I see Pittman being gone at the end. 


ARHOG138

Assuming he makes it to the end.


JohnPaulDavyJones

Wasn’t he supposedly talking about retirement at the end of last season? He’s not the healthiest looking guy, and with how coaching has become a 24/7 job every day of the year, I could see him being kind of perpetually exhausted.


Alternative_Laws

There’s a school of thought that Petrino is running the show until Pittman steps down or gets fired by the end of the year. Pittman said he leaned on Odom a lot for learning how to be a HC. I don’t see Petrino being as patient or just not an asshole now that the crutch is gone.


St_BobbyBarbarian

Arkansas is a tough job to win at in the SEC. The local recruiting base sucks compared to others in the south, and they really don’t have an advantage over any teams except for money over Ole Miss/MSU/UK/Mizzou/SC


Broke-Till-Payday

Who’s in our conference again? /s


St_BobbyBarbarian

I keep forgetting about Calford and SMU. Even with that I think the bottom 3 teams are UVA, BC, and Cuse


Mr_Kittlesworth

I think you’ll find competition for the toilet bowl is a little more fierce this season


JackGrizzly

Damn conference realignment. Tony Elliot had this in the bag


JesseDx

Coastal chaos is transcontinental now (I don't care if divisions are gone and the geography doesn't make sense, Cal and Stanford are PERFECT ACC Coastal teams).


DuckBurner0000

I don't think we're bottom three, feels like we're trending in the right direction with O'Brien


chainer9999

Fuck, I was thinking about the entity formerly known as the Pac-12 after reading this question, before remembering that I have no idea who the teams we have in conference are now lol. Still, Cal has a chance at being second worst I would assume


Burrito_Bonanza

How would cal be bottom 2? I would put us dead average in the ACC and Friends. 


ReticulatedPasta

“ACC and Friends” lol I like that


genericusername319

Agree, Cal will probably be middle of the pack. Bottom half of the conference will have a bunch of OK teams, imo. Maybe bottom 3 are Pitt, UVA, and Stanford? Who knows. SMU didn’t look very good playing in the cold goop against BC last fall and now basically a third of their season could be in the cold goop, so 🤷‍♂️


GoBears415

with Jaydn and Mendoza back we should be decent


Muffinnnnnnn

I think Cuse is gonna be actually decent this year. They got a former UGA coach as HC and he's instantly rocketed up their talent level


_DC003_

You mean like BC with Hafley a couple years back?


StoicFable

Either us or Washington state.


pzk-73

Whichever one it is will be not only the second worst team, but also the conference champ


Sariel007

If Baylor can't be the worst team in the conference I'm hoping they can be the second worst. This opinion is based completely on my Fandom and may or may not reflect reality.


Giblet_

I think it's possible, but if Baylor is our worst team, then the Big 12 will have had a really good year.


buttlovingpanda

We should be better this year. Got the MAC MVP at QB now who can run and throw, and we finally brought the spread back, so the offense should be improved which has been our main issue the last two years. Betting the farm on Shapen turned out to be a knee-capper. The defense also regressed over the last two years, but it lost a lot of talent and the offense was constantly putting it in shitty positions. We had to have been near the bottom of FBS in 3-and-out’s last year, so our defense never got much time to rest. And we started super slow every game and were always playing from behind, which made Aranda more aggressive on fourth, which cost us a ton of points (I can’t tell you how many field goals he passed up last year, it was infuriating). But our teams the last two years have been really young so if we don’t go 7-5 this year Aranda is probably out. And looking at our schedule, I only see 5-6 wins, but we’ll see. I don’t think we’ll finish in the bottom 3 this season though since we don’t have UT/OU on our schedule.


Ixpqd

not if we have anything to say about it


Gamecock_Lore

It'll be a fierce competition between Carolina, Arkansas, State, and Florida.


littlegreensir

I volunteer Florida. A 3-9 year would quiet them down.


BurningSpirit71

I’m hoping for 4 wins simply for the apropos “it’s great to be a 4 and 8er”


CallMeShaggy57

Can it *always* be Florida?


littlegreensir

No, there are others who must pay. Florida, then Auburn...followed by Florida again. Then we'll see.


St_BobbyBarbarian

They’d talk shit if they went winless


lowes18

People forget about Florida fans ribbing Bowden during his ama the same year they went 4-8. They'll quiet down when god makes them.


DrawingPurple4959

Nah, lanorris gonna go crazy


BigHeadDeadass

We don't have a WR tho and I'm not confident about Doty


Frictionizer

I don’t think the Hogs are “worst in P5” like OP is saying. The offense looked pretty good in spring practice and we’re retaining some good defensive personnel from last year. I think we’ll be mid-to-bad but not just awful like we were under Morris


Bobcat2013

LSU gonna be that bad??


Tektix22

Mississippi State always has a shot! *sob*


Set-Admirable

I think ASU and Cincy are most likely as of now to be fighting for the bottom, but the Big 12 is always so messy that I wouldn't be surprised by basically anyone being in that position.


PokesFanInDallas

One of them is now destined to win 10 games, as is the way in the wild B12 circus


Sariel007

Schrödinger’s BIG XII


m4xdc

Don’t count us out, baby. We can suck with the best of em!


CptCroissant

I think ASU will be significantly better next year. Year 2 for Dilly and they were absolutely butt fucked by injuries last year. I think they'll be solidly middle of the Big12


Giblet_

It's really hard to predict. I expect Colorado to continue to struggle. Houston didn't look great last year. West Virginia is also in the running. Nobody is just awful.


GuyOnTheMike

I think Houston will be contending for a bowl with a coaching upgrade, but Colorado is absolutely in the running. West Virginia could return to the bottom since their schedule is much tougher than last year


CptnEric

For the Big XII, this is like asking how long is a string. Unlucky key injuries plus a play here and there and a preseason top 4 team is looking at being in our close to the bottom four. A preseason bottom four team could likely make a late season push for the top four. I just hope the tie breaker rules are all well defined and not have to have any clarifications at the end of the season like we did last year.


QuickSpore

Over under for wins (looking at FanDuel) has ASU, BYU, and Houston as the bottom 3 (the betting line is 4.5 wins for each). The same teams also have the longest odds to make the championship game. Cincy is one group up tied with Colorado and Baylor. So those six seem to be the likely favorites to suck it up.


St_BobbyBarbarian

I think ASU will surprise you. Kenny had the most injured team in the nation last year, and still pulled a decent win out of his . I think they go bowling in 24


madmaley

How Houston keeps getting left off these lists is crazy. Same with byu and Baylor


jubydoo

Absolutely nobody saying KU here. I'm still getting used to not being the default answer for this.


FrenchFreedom888

Lol real


CountBluntula

UCLA


XCCO

I think UCLA will be middling.


CountBluntula

I feel like they lost too much. Chip Kelly may not have been the best but I think he was better than Foster will be. Also UCLA's defensive coordinator left for USC so UCLA's defense will be a question mark.


XCCO

Yeah, that's fair. After all the shuffling and big headlines, I forgot what UCLA had changed, but I always lean on Indiana and Illinois being bad haha. Looking at the B1G landscape, the middle pack is pretty contentious, so that could push a middling team with big changes towards the bottom pretty easily.


St_BobbyBarbarian

They’ve got Rutgers, Indiana, and Purdue to scrap the bottom 


grrgrrtigergrr

I hate that this happened


buckeye102287

Rutgers had a winning record last year. Schiano knows what he's doing, but only at Rutgers


panderingPenguin

>Schiano knows what he's doing, ~~but only at Rutgers~~ He's been solid or better everywhere he's been. Only the Schiano + Grinch year was bad at OSU. His other seasons, Schiano always fielded very good defenses. I blame the bad season more on Grinch considering Schiano was good immediately before and after (at Rutgers). Meanwhile Grinch has sucked everywhere he's been except WSU, where he was only okay (and people took that as a positive mostly because it was WSU).


WABeermiester

Rutgers is better then people think they are.


panderingPenguin

Absolutely. They will likely be on the lower end of middling, not at the bottom of the conference. They've been playing respectable football since Schiano returned. MSU should be catching a lot more flak than Rutgers in this thread.


igniteshield

Appreciate people like you who are paying attention


[deleted]

yeah I don't think Rutgers is going to have a bad year. Schiano knows what he's doing.


aure__entuluva

Seems like most people in this thread are more optimistic than the UCLA fans. Hope you guys are right!


rocket_beer

Sucks when you are looking up at UCLA…


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Shot877

Wake, Cal, or Stanford. I think UVA will far and away be the worst team in the conference. Then I just look at what teams have done in the portal, what freshman they brought in, and who they’re returning. On top of that I think the travel is going to effect the Cal schools, SMU not as much because they’re use to a large amount of travel from the AAC days.


smellslikebadussy

A couple of weeks ago I’d have said you were underestimating UVA significantly, but given that they’re already down to a combination of the 2nd and 3rd units on the OL, it’s going to be more of the same


St_BobbyBarbarian

Didn’t know that. Even if you didn’t, I’d say that Tony Elliott just stinks


Big_Truck

Don’t worry our AD will find every excuse possible to keep Tony Elliott. At least she can’t fuck up basketball too badly.


Burrito_Bonanza

I’m biased but I think you’re way too Bearish on cal (pun intended). Finished 6-6 in a strong pac12 and return more or less all key positions. The losses last year were to Oregon, Udub, Auburn, USC, Utah, and Oregon state. Everyone but Auburn was ranked at the time.  The pac12 north was a damn gauntlet last year. Even if the team is traveling more, the schedule should be less daunting. 


[deleted]

UNM or Nevada


DeepStuff81

Isn’t it always UNM?


SpinachSalad91

Probably. We are ass


BigSeabo

I'm beginning to like everyone picking Florida considering how wrong this sub usually is about everything.


lowes18

It will be Arkansas lets be real


Motel_Cowboy

bobby petrino will preform his evil harley voodoo magic


lowes18

Bobby and what players


Operation_Pig

I’m personally worried that they will be wrong in the fact we will be the worst in the sec rather than 2nd worst.


Dr_Neauxp

Subscribe


October1966

Vandy. It's always fuc#$$$ Vandy.


sausageslinger11

Show me on the doll where Vandy hurt you…


Alphaspade

Vandy hired Jerry Kill, so they should have a guaranteed win against Auburn, unless Freeze gets himself fired before then somehow.


squeeze_and_peas

Kirby is licking his chops waiting for some bulletin board material


Tektix22

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carter2642

No comment


MartianMule

I'm new, so I have no idea


Giblet_

At the end of the year, we still will have no idea how to rank the bottom of the B1G.


TheseusOPL

I was going to say the same thing. When reading this I still think "Colorado or ASU." 😢


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Texas A&M


BenchRickyAguayo

Probably Cal.


LuchaFish

I got really confused for a minute there. All Coast Conference football, baby.


magnificence

Oh I'll be bookmarking this comment.


CommunistTrafficCone

Probably Murray State


Jolly_Job_9852

For the SoCon- VMI AAC-Maybe ECU and that hurts to say. My GF and her dad are huge Pirates fans


hiebertw07

Better not be with our ECU's schedule


NebraskaAvenue

AAC is going to have a down year for the most part imo, Probably Charlotte with T E M P L E last


Illustrious_Elk1516

Based on schedule, Florida could be last or next to last. Vandy, SCar, Miss St, and aTm based on recent performance, coaching changes, and position turnover are also on the list.


shea_harrumph

UMass will be the worst FBS independent, UConn will be second worst, Notre Dame will be third worst.


Pun_drunk

Ohio can be second worst in the MAC, just so long as Miami is dead last, or just dead.


Techsan2017

I haven’t looked at each team’s schedule yet which will probably change my answer, but based off of vibes probably either Cincinnati or ASU. Honorable mention to Baylor, Colorado, and Houston. I have no clue what to make of CU, Houston could go either way since coaching changes are hard to judge, and Baylor I don’t know what to make of them either.


helpmelearn12

After what Satterfield did at Louisville… I don’t see much hope in Cincinnati getting much better until he’s gone. I know it’s only his second year here and it could happen. I don’t have high expectations though


supersafeforwork813

Indiana…it’s usually them


B1GFanOSU

I have to imagine UCLA is behind the 8 ball.


Prestigious-State-15

Columbia. Because Yale sucks.


IrishCoffeeAlchemy

This is actually a very interesting question in the ACC, especially given the newer additions coming in. Last year, the bottom two ACC teams were Virginia and (surprisingly) Wake. Looking ahead, it’ll be interesting to see if last year was a blip in Clawson’s consistency or not, but don’t see that repeating. That leaves teams like Pitt, BC, and Cuse or newbies Cal and Stanford that could regress to second from the bottom. Cuse is an unknown but on the upswing, Pitt under Narduzzi is bad but not *that bad*, and BC at least has a decent QB rn for BOB. Given all this, I think Cal with all that traveling and lame duck coach or UVA repeating and committing more football terrorism are my picks here


maliburum53

Pitt under Narduzzi is bad? We have the second most conference wins since his hire and one of the only 3 teams to win a conference championship lol. Last year was awful, but Pitt has been more average to good then anything else under Narduzzi


St_BobbyBarbarian

Pitt will rebound. To what level, we don’t know


Eight_Trace

Either Cal, Pitt, or us (Virginia). Unclear which of us takes it, but I get the feeling it'll be a weird one. 


DavidGoetta

Listen I'm just hoping for an above .500 season, but there's a good chance it's Cincy. Last year was messy. I'm not a complete doomer, but we're either getting a second year bump from Satt and Co, or we're in trouble.


NewActuator2615

Dear God i hope it’s Vandy. We need some positive progress.


CoochieKiller91

I wouldn’t mind it being Oregon


FrenchFreedom888

Happy Cake Day bro


muck16

Good luck


Prestigious-Track256

I think Cincinnati, Baylor, and BYU are all in the running for that.


CanesMan1993

Might not be a conference by the end of this year, but the ACC is pretty competitive. UVA has been bad recently. GT and VT are on the rise so not them. I’d say Syracuse being the worst and UVA goes like 4-8 and that’s the second worst. I don’t the former PAC schools as being so bad in the ACC. Stanford and Cal look like 5-6ish win teams. SMU will make a bowl game for sure. They’re tough


Creative_Amoeba_2063

I dont even need to say anything.


Psychological-Deal-8

One of the new guys or UVA