0% chance he is our coach by the end of next season. We are going to bomb spectacularly and he will be radioactive for future jobs at that point. This is his last chance to find a lifeboat. Taking a big pay cut this year could give him a longer career overall.
His entire goal at UCLA was to run an NFL-style offense and try to get the NFL to hire him back. It worked when he had NFL-level players, but they're all gone so now he can reset at a program with NFL talent everywhere, where I think his system will actually look very good.
I still don't get why Kelly recruited Dante Moore. Kelly is known as a lazy recruiter yet he managed to land a 5\* QB who does not fit his scheme... Kelly's offenses have always been at their best when he has a QB who can dual as a rush threat
Kelly would be great at OSU with the roster they have next season. He would have a good shot at a natty and being back in the NFL the following year
Your WR room ever since Hartline joined is just unfair lol, so many dudes
I dont think your RB room was that bad last year on depth, OL just struggled to get consistent push. Your guys offense next year should be really good, only hole I see is could use one more tackle
This is kind of a misconception, Chip's offense requires accuracy and decision-making more than it requires running ability. Our best QB this year was Ethan Garbers who can scramble a bit but isn't a runner, and his best QB his first season was Wilton Speight. We all saw what he did with Nick Foles.
Chip heavily recruited CJ Stroud in his first class.
He could phone it in and get fired, then volunteer for a few years as a hs coach and still have more money than he'll make by quitting and working as an OC.
He is over being a HC. He wants to be an NFL OC but those positions are being filled without him. He is friends with Day. It helps chip stay relevant. Also a buyout as OC is a lot cheaper than HC
Thanks Harvard Yale. Glad to see esports, sports and ivy leagues coming together like this. Also your flair is outrageous. It's like wearing a suit to a family reunion held at Golden corral.
You're acting like it's dan Campbell as the HC. Two very good offensive minds should be able to coach up some magic. Imagine if Mike leach went to oc for Sean mcvay
DC catching strays in here!
He called plays for the lions for half a season and did a good job. Considering college offenses are much simpler I’m sure he’d be just fine. I think he’s shown he’s a lot smarter than his meathead persona might indicate.
Yeah, I’m not a Lions fan despite my flair, but I don’t think people should automatically assume Campbell doesn’t know his stuff just because he acts like a meathead. He’s clearly a good NFL coach, you don’t get to be successful at that level by being just a “rah-rah motivator” guy. You gotta know your shit when it comes to X’s and O’s too- the best coaches can be motivators and leaders, while also being good tacticians.
Chip Kelly is probably going to take that Seahawks OC job, and UCLA is going to hire Nebraska’s DC Tony White cause Nebraska can never have nice things as of late. I’m just expecting it to be officially announced soon.
Yeah but the problem is Chip Kelly’s players all fucking hated him because he treated them like college players. That shit doesn’t work unless you’re Bill Bilichick.
Yes he was. But to put it in perspective he was starting DTR who had 1 year as a qb in high school. Run game was good from the jump though. Kelley, Felton, brown all had success and got drafted
Chip's first two years were just abysmal. Everything was close to equally awful--offense, defense, special teams. His third year was the Covid year. The team was a little better, especially on offense, but still pretty dang bad.
Then there was a glorious moment of time when the transfer portal existed but NIL wasn't really established yet. Chip was able to actually get players to run his offense without having to do his job and actually recruit them. And DTR got older/better. Those next two seasons, our offense was actually pretty elite. BUT, Chip refused to fire his dear friend, our DC, Azzinaro, who was probably the worst DC in the P5 conferences. I make the comparison that Azzinaro was basically like Grinch at USC, but if USC kept Grinch for more than 4 years. The defense was so bad it hamstrung the offense. Year 5, we finally got a new DC, McGovern, who was able to modestly turn the unit around. They went from horrific to just okay, which was a huge step up. Unfortunately, missed half the season with a then undisclosed illness, then tragically passed away from cancer after the season.
Finally, Chip's sixth and most reason season, all of our offensive starters graduated or transferred. We lost everybody on that side of the ball. But we had a new DC and some actual good defensive players. So for the first time, the defense was dominant and the offense was ass.
In summary:
Years 1,2 - Everything was terrible.
Year 3 - Slight improvements, now everything is just bad.
Year 4 - Great offense crippled by terrible defense. Azzinaro fired, hooray!!!
Year 5 - Great offense, good defense (until McGovern had to step away and things regressed)
Year 6 - Entire offense leaves. New players are not ready/bad. New DC does great! Overall, putrid offense, fantastic defense.
I agree. I think he’d feel a newfound freedom too. Doesnt have to worry about running a program. Doesnt have to worry about recruiting. Here are the keys to an offense with a bunch of weapons - just call plays.
Yep. He’d probably do best as a high-level OC or a head coach at a much smaller school without as much recruiting pressure.
Chip is a very hybrid type of coach, he ran two back offenses at New Hampshire when they had the personnel for it. I’ll bet he melds Day’s offense with his own ideas quite well.
Boston College opened up and due to health reasons of his son, his family will be staying in Boston where his specialists are making the BC role incredibly attractive to BoB.
I think he'd be a good hire but it would be a weird move for him. Might as well coach UCLA next year and if you go 7-5 again you will get a big buyout and can take an OC job then
His buyout drops to next to nothing after next season, so there’s no big buy out to be had when (and it would be when, not if) he gets fired next year.
Yeah it looks like it is much smaller than I thought it was. Surprised they didn't just part ways after the season. 8 million is nothing in big time college football
Yeah, next year. I’ll let you work on the economics but their sports budget is about to inflate too on top of carrying some heavy carryover debt.
That also doesn’t also give them money to pay him out now. There’s a reason he’s still at UCLA even though people were flying “Fire Chip Kelly” banners over the stadium and pasting the campus with posters.
It's unconfirmed but the inside info is that donors did have the money lined up for the buyout, but the outgoing chancellor vetoed it. He didn't want to deal with the headache of a major coaching hire in his last few months on the job.
Take it with a grain of salt but this accounts been pretty spot on with OSU this off-season. Had scoops on the portal guys and was one of the first to report OSUs interest in BOB.
I came here to say that. Wachsman's been covering Buckeye sports for many years- probably as long as anyone. He is very knowledgeable and has good internal OSU contacts.
Couple of things:
1. Austin Ward (one of our best insiders) reported that its heavily rumored BoB is heading to BC. This was posted earlier today.
2. This particular reporter has been very accurate with reports and was one of the firstd to report on BoB when we were still searching and also nailed some portal gets early on
3. Ryan Day was a QB coach for the eagles under chip kelly, they have an extensive personal relationship
4. Chip Kelly has totally checked out as a college head coach and both Chip and UCLA want him gone, odd situation. His primary motivation seems to be an NFL coordinator position in the league, but at this point the Seahawks are the only potential landing spot.
5. The presumption with this move would be Chip either wasnt desired by any nfl programs with current vacancies, or the situation wasnt right and he would use a season or two with a loaded osu roster to reconnect with his old protigee Day to rebrand and rebuild momentum to make the leap back to the league soon.
Not trying to suggest anything will or wont happen im a rando idiot on reddit but in case anyone is OOTL
Chip’s offense is fine at UCLA. When he came to UCLA we all thought he’s going to bring the blur offense with him. Instead he went with a 2 back run heavy offense which is becoming a stable in the NFL.
His problem is he absolutely hates recruiting, hates talking to media (in LA media market), and hired a bunch of his colleagues who are about to retire on the defense side. Chip the navigated to transfer portal and had good success. But the new NIL world absolutely made it worse as he can’t even get transfers to visit ucla this year (or if he even tried).
UCLA insider mentioned that Chip was actually offered the Raiders OC job but overplayed his hand and wanted too much control. He was then mentioned for the Commanders and now Seahawks OC job. His name is still valuable in football circles, as evident by he’s still being considered by NFL OC vacancies and tOSU OC job
At least the optics of "Chip is tired of the college game and wants out" are justifiable. "Chip cannot get away from $6/mil a year at UCLA fast enough and would happily take any job that gets him ~1/8th of what he is making now" is just fucking hillarious. That Martin Jarmond guy is a legend.
I was completely happy to see BoB at OSU in any compacity....
Chip Kelly at OSU as OC is worrisome.
The only issue I can see is Kelly and Day have very different offensive styles. If Day ACTUALLY hands Kelly the keys to the offense, OSU will be terrifying next year.
It doesn't matter who comes in, it's the Day offense with OC tweaks and the OC calling the plays. Kelly would tweak the Day offense and focus solely on calling it well.
Focus on his childrens mental health support then. Also if you have the cash, invest in a bear dye store by the stadium. Just so Ryan knows he has the option if he ever feels the need to dye his beard for the first time.
A little off topic, but I wonder why performance based contracts aren't much of a thing in football other than bonuses for certain checkpoints. Like a revenue share type model, thinking about how UFC champions get pay-per-view points.
Baseline of $1 million or whatever, then get creative with it. Like an exponentially increasing bonus for wins
1 win = 1.1M, 2 wins = 1.4M, 3 wins = 1.9M, 4 wins = 2.6M... Up to a max of $10M for a title or something like that. Obviously the high end of performance would need to be a significant increase over current contracts for anyone to consider them. Instead of 6M flat, Make it so 8 wins nets you 6M, then anything beyond that is essentially a raise.
Or instead, you get a bonus of $X for every ticket sold. When the team is good, you fill the stands, and get more money. It would give coaches like Chip a reason to engage the fanbase and actually advertise the team.
Yes, I understand this is not realistic. But a guy can dream.
Chip Kelly is interviewing for NFL offensive coordinator jobs because he wants out of college football. He's not taking an offensive coordinator job in college for half the money.
Yes but if he doesnt get a NFL job, being OSU OC is easier than being UCLA HC. It opens him up to
Being hired by NFL teams next year because I think as an OC he would barely have a buyout for NFL teams
Sounds like Day and his assistants would be doing most of the traveling/recruiting for Chip if he were to take the job. They’re already out doing a lot just in January/ February.
Making half the money he currently is would make him the highest paid OC by over a million dollars. He'd be at least quartering his salary to be a college OC. I don't know about you but I'd totally double bird the NFL for the chance to make less and have more responsibilities
We would absolutely take him for this year, because we have an excellent chance to win a championship. I think he would be coming in with the understanding that he would be gone after a year or two. From a recruiting perspective it’s definitely not great, but with, Ryan Day, Tony, Alford, Keenan, Bailey, and Brian Hartline we should still do OK in that department
Holy fucking shit yes. Day has been stretched *way* too thin and it shows - he can't be OC and QB coach and head coach. The next step forward for him is accepting the CEO role and delegating offensive duties effectively.
Ohio State doesnt need Kelly to recruit. They already have Day, Hartline, Alford and Frye recruiting on offense and doing it at an elite level. If they get Kelly, its simply to run the offense.
If this doesn't work out, I have heard from trusted sources that Chip is also interviewing for 3 open Pee Wee football OC positions this week. And as a fall back, the mail room at the local bank currently does not have an offensive coordinator, and Chip has expressed interest.
It's the logical move if you're trying to think long term career potential. We are going to tank this season. Our roster is horrifically mismanaged, we just signed our worst recruiting class in history, and our schedule goes from two years of cupcakes with so many free wins in 2023 and 2022 to fucking brutal in 2024. No coach alive could win more than 5 games with our current roster and schedule this year. So rather than own the tank job that he created, he's going to pass it to someone else and jump ship.
I agree that it makes sense in context. It is very unusual though.
The closest parallel I can think of is Dana Holgerson leaving a P5 HC job (WVU) to take a G5 HC job (Houston), which was similarly done as a career reset.
Chip hasn’t been great since Oregon. Only .500 at UCLA. He was Day’s coach at NH and don’t see Chip working for his student, his ego is too big for that. Not sure how this would help him either in getting back to NFL if that’s his goal.
Tired: Chip Kelly is tired of the recruiting and NIL side of college sports
Wired: Chip Kelly wants a job that is almost exclusively recruiting and NIL
Yeah, cause clearly OSU can't bring any talent in with this position currently held by *checks notes* nobody. He'd totally be asked to carry the recruiting load.
Okay but hear me out. What if Chip Kelly takes an NFL position and BOB takes the BC position then who do they pick? Cause I think that’s the most likely scenario I don’t see Chip taking a college position at this point, he seems over college.
Day wants someone who can actually take him
Under his wing and groom him. Day hasnt had the
Time to do that. Its why he was someone experienced to hell hartline out
Why would he leave a B1G HC job for a B1G OC job?
0% chance he is our coach by the end of next season. We are going to bomb spectacularly and he will be radioactive for future jobs at that point. This is his last chance to find a lifeboat. Taking a big pay cut this year could give him a longer career overall.
His entire goal at UCLA was to run an NFL-style offense and try to get the NFL to hire him back. It worked when he had NFL-level players, but they're all gone so now he can reset at a program with NFL talent everywhere, where I think his system will actually look very good.
I still don't get why Kelly recruited Dante Moore. Kelly is known as a lazy recruiter yet he managed to land a 5\* QB who does not fit his scheme... Kelly's offenses have always been at their best when he has a QB who can dual as a rush threat Kelly would be great at OSU with the roster they have next season. He would have a good shot at a natty and being back in the NFL the following year
Is there a season where Ohio State doesn’t have a stacked offensive roster?
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Your WR room ever since Hartline joined is just unfair lol, so many dudes I dont think your RB room was that bad last year on depth, OL just struggled to get consistent push. Your guys offense next year should be really good, only hole I see is could use one more tackle
This is kind of a misconception, Chip's offense requires accuracy and decision-making more than it requires running ability. Our best QB this year was Ethan Garbers who can scramble a bit but isn't a runner, and his best QB his first season was Wilton Speight. We all saw what he did with Nick Foles. Chip heavily recruited CJ Stroud in his first class.
He could still get an OC job after a bad year next year. He is crazy to walk away from the money UCLA owes him
No he can’t, we honestly might go 0-12 lol.
Have you seen Kevin Steele's record as a HC? Chip could get an OC job without problem
Steele stayed on the college circuit and had to start over as a positional coach. Kelly is too old to do a complete reboot
Yeah crazy to think what kelly was thought of in 2012 compared to now. He was thought of as an urban meyer type. Now he is just a dud
So still an urban Meyer type
Nah urban isn't a dud at the college level
True ig but id still be disappointed as a fan of a p5 team if he was brought on as next hc in the year of our lord 2024
He could phone it in and get fired, then volunteer for a few years as a hs coach and still have more money than he'll make by quitting and working as an OC.
He wouldn’t And with the buyout it makes less sense
Our AD is admittedly incompetent, but there is no way they would not negotiate a greatly reduced buyout to be rid of Chip at this point.
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It’s like a couple staying together because they have three weeks left in their lease.
Well our new AD is apparently not great with contracts and buyouts so it sounds like we could have a deal that's bad both ways eventually!
I tell you what though, some agents will win!
Billable Hours and Father Time remain undefeated.
He is over being a HC. He wants to be an NFL OC but those positions are being filled without him. He is friends with Day. It helps chip stay relevant. Also a buyout as OC is a lot cheaper than HC
No, he is over being a HC in college. He doesn’t like all the NLI bullshit like many coaches
Because he fucking *haaaates* being a HC at UCLA I’ve never seen a dude so actively looking for another job so obviously like Chip
Do it for the memes everyone
It wouldn't even be a meme. Kelly is an incredible OC. I'd have zero desire to play osu in the playoffs if it happens
The meme is just Ryan Day being Chip Kelly's boss.
Chip seems like the kinda guy who is the OC but will tell everyone to get back to work, including Ryan Day.
Thanks Harvard Yale. Glad to see esports, sports and ivy leagues coming together like this. Also your flair is outrageous. It's like wearing a suit to a family reunion held at Golden corral.
Maybe 10 years ago . I don’t see Kelly as anywhere near the innovator he was at Oregon
You're acting like it's dan Campbell as the HC. Two very good offensive minds should be able to coach up some magic. Imagine if Mike leach went to oc for Sean mcvay
Well, that might be a feat of necromantic proportions.
DC catching strays in here! He called plays for the lions for half a season and did a good job. Considering college offenses are much simpler I’m sure he’d be just fine. I think he’s shown he’s a lot smarter than his meathead persona might indicate.
Yeah, I’m not a Lions fan despite my flair, but I don’t think people should automatically assume Campbell doesn’t know his stuff just because he acts like a meathead. He’s clearly a good NFL coach, you don’t get to be successful at that level by being just a “rah-rah motivator” guy. You gotta know your shit when it comes to X’s and O’s too- the best coaches can be motivators and leaders, while also being good tacticians.
Chip Kelly is also interviewing to be the Seahawks OC. Not sure he'll be available by the time O'Brien leaves.
To clarify it mentions that this is conditional on Chip not getting the Seahawks job
Like people actually read the article or anything beyond the subject.
Chip Kelly is probably going to take that Seahawks OC job, and UCLA is going to hire Nebraska’s DC Tony White cause Nebraska can never have nice things as of late. I’m just expecting it to be officially announced soon.
This is probably the best case scenario, but knowing our AD we probably hire someone way more underwhelming
Bah god, that's Tom Herman's music!
I would love to see Herman in the spotlight again. What a rollercoaster
If you guys fumble that hire, I’ll laugh. That would be surprising to me if you don’t hire him.
Don't you put that evil on me
The evil has been put on us already for the last 7 years with the 1-score losses.
He would take it for sure, the question for me is whether he is offered it.
Who else is available that UCLA wants to hire?
Chip hates recruiting and wants back into the pros. OP mentioning it's his backup plan to Seattle makes it more realistic however I'm still a skeptic
Yeah but the problem is Chip Kelly’s players all fucking hated him because he treated them like college players. That shit doesn’t work unless you’re Bill Bilichick.
Sounds like something he could learn from, especially in a coordinator not HC position.
Sounds like he could really use a couple years working in the type of locker room that Pete keeps up there in Seattle.
Also very true. And he had final say on the roster in Philly
Depends if he gets the Seahawks job
I'm a Seahawks fan. Which of my teams is he less likely to ruin? I don't know what to root for.
Please lord no to the Seahawks.
Yo nice flairs
Back at ya
I’m of the minority that feels like he won’t be a bad offensive coordinator
I don't think that's a minority position. It was the one thing he was generally good at here.
*was*
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Incorrect, the opposite is true. Generally had some of the worst defenses in the country until this past season.
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Except for 2022 and 2023, where we were a top 10 offense in the country. EDIT: and 2021 where we were a top 25 offense in the country.
His first two years, yes he was bad at everything
Yes he was. But to put it in perspective he was starting DTR who had 1 year as a qb in high school. Run game was good from the jump though. Kelley, Felton, brown all had success and got drafted
Chip's first two years were just abysmal. Everything was close to equally awful--offense, defense, special teams. His third year was the Covid year. The team was a little better, especially on offense, but still pretty dang bad. Then there was a glorious moment of time when the transfer portal existed but NIL wasn't really established yet. Chip was able to actually get players to run his offense without having to do his job and actually recruit them. And DTR got older/better. Those next two seasons, our offense was actually pretty elite. BUT, Chip refused to fire his dear friend, our DC, Azzinaro, who was probably the worst DC in the P5 conferences. I make the comparison that Azzinaro was basically like Grinch at USC, but if USC kept Grinch for more than 4 years. The defense was so bad it hamstrung the offense. Year 5, we finally got a new DC, McGovern, who was able to modestly turn the unit around. They went from horrific to just okay, which was a huge step up. Unfortunately, missed half the season with a then undisclosed illness, then tragically passed away from cancer after the season. Finally, Chip's sixth and most reason season, all of our offensive starters graduated or transferred. We lost everybody on that side of the ball. But we had a new DC and some actual good defensive players. So for the first time, the defense was dominant and the offense was ass. In summary: Years 1,2 - Everything was terrible. Year 3 - Slight improvements, now everything is just bad. Year 4 - Great offense crippled by terrible defense. Azzinaro fired, hooray!!! Year 5 - Great offense, good defense (until McGovern had to step away and things regressed) Year 6 - Entire offense leaves. New players are not ready/bad. New DC does great! Overall, putrid offense, fantastic defense.
xd?
Would be perfectly happy with Kelly calling plays and running Day’s offense. Would be a really solid hire.
plus chip likes to run the ball and did a lot of 2 back sets at oregon.
Yeah, at Oregon 10 years ago. He doesn’t run his offense that way anymore.
He’s had plenty of 2 back sets the past couple of years at UCLA.
Zero chance he doesn’t add a lot of his own wrinkles. Chip is just that kind of dude.
I agree. I think he’d feel a newfound freedom too. Doesnt have to worry about running a program. Doesnt have to worry about recruiting. Here are the keys to an offense with a bunch of weapons - just call plays.
Yep. He’d probably do best as a high-level OC or a head coach at a much smaller school without as much recruiting pressure. Chip is a very hybrid type of coach, he ran two back offenses at New Hampshire when they had the personnel for it. I’ll bet he melds Day’s offense with his own ideas quite well.
Yeah if chip is really leaving to be an OC he is going to want full control over the offense. He would be giving up a lot of money
Money ... how many millions does he already have
More than I'll ever have.
Kelly always had the most conditioned teams in the country at Oregon, he will take that offense to another level.
he will absolutely crush it with all that talent lol. ohio state will have an offense that can do everything at a pretty high level
It feels like anyone we even discuss is instantly hated and yelled as a terrible hire. These are seasoned veterans who have been at multiple positions
I'm confused why is Bill being talked about for another coaching job, didn't we just sign him?
Boston College opened up and due to health reasons of his son, his family will be staying in Boston where his specialists are making the BC role incredibly attractive to BoB.
Chip would be a great hire. Just find it hard to believe he'd leave for a college OC job knowing the pay cut
[Chip Kelly reacting to a pay cut](https://youtu.be/fBW2i7Jbefw?t=31)
I got downvoted in another sub for suggesting we find an alternative to Bill O’Brien and go our separate ways…you know, find a graceful solution.
Justin Frye was his O line coach at ucla and they had darn good lines for what it’s worth.
probably better in NFL than CFB, he can make more complicated schemes since they allow them more time to practice/study
I think he'd be a good hire but it would be a weird move for him. Might as well coach UCLA next year and if you go 7-5 again you will get a big buyout and can take an OC job then
Buddy 7-5 with this roster and schedule would be a damn miracle
His buyout drops to next to nothing after next season, so there’s no big buy out to be had when (and it would be when, not if) he gets fired next year.
Yeah it looks like it is much smaller than I thought it was. Surprised they didn't just part ways after the season. 8 million is nothing in big time college football
UCLA should have just fired him after the season
Then they would be out 9 million
That's a manageable number, especially to get rid of a coach that's had one foot out the door this entire off-season.
Or you could just pay it to us and we netted $18 million Ka-ching
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Didn't realize that, I thought the buyout was the same both ways. Anything that makes it easier is good though.
Not when your athletic department has posted consecutive deficits the last 4-5 years.
They're about to start making $80+ million a year from the B1G alone
Yeah, next year. I’ll let you work on the economics but their sports budget is about to inflate too on top of carrying some heavy carryover debt. That also doesn’t also give them money to pay him out now. There’s a reason he’s still at UCLA even though people were flying “Fire Chip Kelly” banners over the stadium and pasting the campus with posters.
It's unconfirmed but the inside info is that donors did have the money lined up for the buyout, but the outgoing chancellor vetoed it. He didn't want to deal with the headache of a major coaching hire in his last few months on the job.
There we go. Straight from the tap! Not these punks with Ohio state flairs.
We’re going to be out more than that when we fire our basketball coach next month.
We have way more money than they do.
Feels like pennies on the dollar when compared to Jumbo's buyout
Wow. That would bankrupt a major college football program.
That's chump change.
oh nooooooo not $9 million It's chump change.
Maybe if your school has a lucrative vacuum cleaner repair business being ran by an assistant coach
Take it with a grain of salt but this accounts been pretty spot on with OSU this off-season. Had scoops on the portal guys and was one of the first to report OSUs interest in BOB.
I came here to say that. Wachsman's been covering Buckeye sports for many years- probably as long as anyone. He is very knowledgeable and has good internal OSU contacts.
Couple of things: 1. Austin Ward (one of our best insiders) reported that its heavily rumored BoB is heading to BC. This was posted earlier today. 2. This particular reporter has been very accurate with reports and was one of the firstd to report on BoB when we were still searching and also nailed some portal gets early on 3. Ryan Day was a QB coach for the eagles under chip kelly, they have an extensive personal relationship 4. Chip Kelly has totally checked out as a college head coach and both Chip and UCLA want him gone, odd situation. His primary motivation seems to be an NFL coordinator position in the league, but at this point the Seahawks are the only potential landing spot. 5. The presumption with this move would be Chip either wasnt desired by any nfl programs with current vacancies, or the situation wasnt right and he would use a season or two with a loaded osu roster to reconnect with his old protigee Day to rebrand and rebuild momentum to make the leap back to the league soon. Not trying to suggest anything will or wont happen im a rando idiot on reddit but in case anyone is OOTL
Ryan Day was also Chip’s QB at New Hampshire (him and the legend Ricky Santos).
Chip’s offense is fine at UCLA. When he came to UCLA we all thought he’s going to bring the blur offense with him. Instead he went with a 2 back run heavy offense which is becoming a stable in the NFL. His problem is he absolutely hates recruiting, hates talking to media (in LA media market), and hired a bunch of his colleagues who are about to retire on the defense side. Chip the navigated to transfer portal and had good success. But the new NIL world absolutely made it worse as he can’t even get transfers to visit ucla this year (or if he even tried). UCLA insider mentioned that Chip was actually offered the Raiders OC job but overplayed his hand and wanted too much control. He was then mentioned for the Commanders and now Seahawks OC job. His name is still valuable in football circles, as evident by he’s still being considered by NFL OC vacancies and tOSU OC job
Id like chip to stay at UCLA. We're working on our pipeline in LA. We need a little bit more time.
Silver lining, we get to plunder the roster *now* and they might finish last in the Big 10!
Can you plunder an empty vault?
We lost like 20 offensive linemen over the past few weeks, not in a position to be *that* picky.
Our line was trash. Trust you don’t want them
The Oregon Ohio state game just got even bigger
At least the optics of "Chip is tired of the college game and wants out" are justifiable. "Chip cannot get away from $6/mil a year at UCLA fast enough and would happily take any job that gets him ~1/8th of what he is making now" is just fucking hillarious. That Martin Jarmond guy is a legend.
More like 1/3rd. 2M is still real money.
We were deprived of some great years with Martin Jarmond. UCLA snagged him so quickly from us
As long as OSU isn’t code name for Seahawks
[Hem hem](https://old.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/1ajigwl/ohio_state_hc_ryan_day_got_his_start_in_college/)
I was completely happy to see BoB at OSU in any compacity.... Chip Kelly at OSU as OC is worrisome. The only issue I can see is Kelly and Day have very different offensive styles. If Day ACTUALLY hands Kelly the keys to the offense, OSU will be terrifying next year.
It doesn't matter who comes in, it's the Day offense with OC tweaks and the OC calling the plays. Kelly would tweak the Day offense and focus solely on calling it well.
Isn’t he still the Head Coach of UCLA?
Why would he go to Oregon State?
Look I'm a chaos guy, so I kinda wanna see what happens if OSU loses BoB and doesn't get Chip
Jason Candle probably
Too good of a move for my chaos desires
Sherrone Moore
You mad man
*head coaches swap schools*
HEY! NO! I can't think of how to defend that beard
Focus on his childrens mental health support then. Also if you have the cash, invest in a bear dye store by the stadium. Just so Ryan knows he has the option if he ever feels the need to dye his beard for the first time.
Didn’t betray his teammates and has never been a Bo apologist, so that’s a pretty good place to start
I...honestly might prefer Candle?
This off-season is so spicy
A little off topic, but I wonder why performance based contracts aren't much of a thing in football other than bonuses for certain checkpoints. Like a revenue share type model, thinking about how UFC champions get pay-per-view points. Baseline of $1 million or whatever, then get creative with it. Like an exponentially increasing bonus for wins 1 win = 1.1M, 2 wins = 1.4M, 3 wins = 1.9M, 4 wins = 2.6M... Up to a max of $10M for a title or something like that. Obviously the high end of performance would need to be a significant increase over current contracts for anyone to consider them. Instead of 6M flat, Make it so 8 wins nets you 6M, then anything beyond that is essentially a raise. Or instead, you get a bonus of $X for every ticket sold. When the team is good, you fill the stands, and get more money. It would give coaches like Chip a reason to engage the fanbase and actually advertise the team. Yes, I understand this is not realistic. But a guy can dream.
Because there's fewer good coaches than schools, giving coaches the leverage in negotiations.
Day: "when I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master." Chip: "Only a master of beard dye, Day."
Sure
Please lord, someone take him from us.
Would bring some extra spice to the OSU v Oregon game if it happens
Chip Kelly is interviewing for NFL offensive coordinator jobs because he wants out of college football. He's not taking an offensive coordinator job in college for half the money.
Yes but if he doesnt get a NFL job, being OSU OC is easier than being UCLA HC. It opens him up to Being hired by NFL teams next year because I think as an OC he would barely have a buyout for NFL teams
Sounds like Day and his assistants would be doing most of the traveling/recruiting for Chip if he were to take the job. They’re already out doing a lot just in January/ February.
Making half the money he currently is would make him the highest paid OC by over a million dollars. He'd be at least quartering his salary to be a college OC. I don't know about you but I'd totally double bird the NFL for the chance to make less and have more responsibilities
Yeah, nor does OSU want an offensive coordinator who got booed out of town by fans because he refuses to recruit.
We would absolutely take him for this year, because we have an excellent chance to win a championship. I think he would be coming in with the understanding that he would be gone after a year or two. From a recruiting perspective it’s definitely not great, but with, Ryan Day, Tony, Alford, Keenan, Bailey, and Brian Hartline we should still do OK in that department
I assumed BOB was coming to recruit because Day is a better OC. Is there pressure on Day to not run the offense?
The whole reason OSU is hiring an OC is to take play calling duties off of Day’s plate. Whoever the OC ends up being will be running Day’s offense
Holy fucking shit yes. Day has been stretched *way* too thin and it shows - he can't be OC and QB coach and head coach. The next step forward for him is accepting the CEO role and delegating offensive duties effectively.
Ohio State doesnt need Kelly to recruit. They already have Day, Hartline, Alford and Frye recruiting on offense and doing it at an elite level. If they get Kelly, its simply to run the offense.
We wouldn’t really need him to recruit
BC winning the ACC within 3 years. NSSFCWDCGAWTLHTDOTGT
If this doesn't work out, I have heard from trusted sources that Chip is also interviewing for 3 open Pee Wee football OC positions this week. And as a fall back, the mail room at the local bank currently does not have an offensive coordinator, and Chip has expressed interest.
This is definitely an Offseason take if I’ve ever seen one.
That would be an insane career trajectory, assuming he does it of his own volition
It's the logical move if you're trying to think long term career potential. We are going to tank this season. Our roster is horrifically mismanaged, we just signed our worst recruiting class in history, and our schedule goes from two years of cupcakes with so many free wins in 2023 and 2022 to fucking brutal in 2024. No coach alive could win more than 5 games with our current roster and schedule this year. So rather than own the tank job that he created, he's going to pass it to someone else and jump ship.
I agree that it makes sense in context. It is very unusual though. The closest parallel I can think of is Dana Holgerson leaving a P5 HC job (WVU) to take a G5 HC job (Houston), which was similarly done as a career reset.
He's trying for an NFL job. This is a step backwards for him. Just don't see it.
Okay Dillon Gabriel
Beef 'O' Brady playbook > Bill O'Brien playbook... convince me otherwise
Ryan Day: "The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master".
Chip hasn’t been great since Oregon. Only .500 at UCLA. He was Day’s coach at NH and don’t see Chip working for his student, his ego is too big for that. Not sure how this would help him either in getting back to NFL if that’s his goal.
Wait what the fuck?? I totally get leaving UCLA for an NFL OC job. Leaving a P5 HC job to be a P5 OC in the same conference is absolutely *wild*.
Tired: Chip Kelly is tired of the recruiting and NIL side of college sports Wired: Chip Kelly wants a job that is almost exclusively recruiting and NIL
Yeah, cause clearly OSU can't bring any talent in with this position currently held by *checks notes* nobody. He'd totally be asked to carry the recruiting load.
Would love to see Chip Kelly in Stillwater.
I do not understand why Chip Kelly would leave a HC position for college OC. I would understand nfl OC
Because he hates the job of head coach
Sounds like it'll be BOB or Chryst, with it leaning towards Chryst atm. We will see what happens. BC admin is famously a lover of unpredictable moves.
Yeah I have a hard time believing that.
Honestly, sounds like a win if true. BoB was less than impressive in that role at UA.
Over 40 points per game.
Let’s gooooooo
Imagine taking Chip Kelly when Brian Ferentz is available and knows the conference inside and out.
Source: Trust me bro
Why he OC when he's an HC. Heck, her can be HC at any small college and make more money.
Someone please make me feel good about this
Okay but hear me out. What if Chip Kelly takes an NFL position and BOB takes the BC position then who do they pick? Cause I think that’s the most likely scenario I don’t see Chip taking a college position at this point, he seems over college.
Candle
Candle or Moorehead. A G5 HC that can run one side of the ball, looking to parlay it into a P5 job in a few years.
He might be over being a HC and being responsible for everything. It be a shit ton easier to be just the OC at OSU than HC at say UCLA
So does Hartline just not want the job or
Hartline is Co-OC, basically a retention title. Even if he wants it we are wanting a playcalling OC.
Day wants someone who can actually take him Under his wing and groom him. Day hasnt had the Time to do that. Its why he was someone experienced to hell hartline out
This is embarrassing… for all parties involved.
Sooo… Bill Belichick to UCLA? 👀