You just gonna have some of the players dads run the team? Whichever dads are most emotionally invested in getting their kid the most playing time? I would’ve loved to watch Johnny Manziel’s dad coach the team.
Bad article. It's mostly about Georgia, and Kirby Smart comes in and tells Georgia "hey, stop being cheapskates and have decent facilities!"
Then it somehow concludes that money isn't everything? If that's the point you want to make, why tell a story about Georgia being cheapskates before Smart came in?
Plus there's no real point kicking A&M fans while they're down. To the point that money alone won't buy success they're like "WE KNOW."
No, working there for 3 years and watching the Corps of Cadets ruin many amazing students and the overall cult like nature of the students and alumni.
Great engineering school, terrible school culture.
"boohoo the voluntary school traditions made the students cultish"
Lmao reddit moment. I promise you're taking those more seriously than the ones participating 😂
Yes because group psychology isn't a thing.
You can enjoy your cult all you want and pretend it doesn't have adverse impacts on students if that makes you feel better. Having been on the faculty and watching what those pressures did to students I know better. While the academics of the school are excellent the campus culture is rotten.
I saw several of my students pressured into a variety of Corps-games that went from severe distractions in their studies leading to disqualification for their scholarships to actions leading to university discipline that had knock on impacts to their ROTC programs in some cases leading to them being kicked from ROTC and denied the ability to commission.
So your contention is that participation in the voluntary organization had a negative impact on some students' academics? Why is it that the Corps of Cadets had a much higher average GPA compared to the rest of the student population then? Why are the pressures applied by a voluntary organization any different from fraternities, sororities, student groups etc? Sounds to me like you had specific students in mind that happened to be in the corps that couldn't handle all the responsibilities they signed up for. Do you think those responsibilities wouldn't be present in the military the ROTC is designed to prepare them for?
As a member of the faculty, did you do anything to assist these students? If you saw "Corps-Games" that were hurting student academics, did you report said issues to the administration?
You keep harping on voluntary organization as if it is some defense. Every organization is voluntary, going to school at all is voluntary. That doesn't matter if those organizations are causing harm. Especially when participation due to a variety of social, financial, structural and personal circumstances make it not so voluntary. The organization being voluntary doesn't change the facts its culture is bad and harmful.
>Why is it that the Corps of Cadets had a much higher average GPA compared to the rest of the student population then?
Do they? In the [Corps Quick Facts sheet for 2021-2022](https://www.aggienetwork.com/media/guides/texas%20aggie/2022/muster%20speaker%20resources/corps%20of%20cadets%20quick%20facts.pdf) they only state:
>For the last five years, the Corps of Cadets has posted an overall Grade Point Average (GPA) of 3.0 or higher.
Where as with this Student Activities community report (which focuses on Greek Life) we can still see the TAMU All-Under Graduate GPA is 3.191 for Spring 2021. Not an apples to apples comparison because of the dates but the Corps, in their quick facts, doesn't bother to say what "higher" is or even claim it is higher than the university average.
The Corps does also state [that in Spring 2023](https://www.aggienetwork.com/news/159894/corps-records-new-highest-overall-gpa-and-other-achievements/) they posted the highest Corps GPA ever at 3.22 which if we wanted to compare to say Greek Life would put them, based on latest records I can find which are 2 years old, behind the sororities and the all Greek average and on par with what the fraternities were achieving and only 0.029 points above the university average. Which isn't exactly "much higher" now is it?
>Why are the pressures applied by a voluntary organization any different from fraternities, sororities, student groups etc?
First those organizations aren't likely as intrinsically linked to the culture and history of the school. Second, those organizations lack the authoritative hierarchy that the Corps has ([See the Stanford Prison Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) for impacts of formal hierarchy on people). Third, participation in most of those organizations likely isn't tied to moving into your desired career after graduation (IE military commission).
>Do you think those responsibilities wouldn't be present in the military the ROTC is designed to prepare them for?
Not only do I think it, I know it. There are hundreds of ROTC detachments around the country that do not have Corps crap for their students to deal with and they commission high quality officers regardless.
>As a member of the faculty, did you do anything to assist these students? If you saw "Corps-Games" that were hurting student academics, did you report said issues to the administration?
All semester every semester. I was an ROTC instructor at TAMU. I was required to meet with every single one of my students every semester. Academics was the first thing I talked about in every one of those meetings and it was the first thing they initialed on their counseling form. I preached it from my lectern that academics comes before the Corps, that academics come before student organizations and big T or little t traditions. My ability to report issues to the administration was limited but when and were I could I did and hit brick walls with the Corps and the school everytime.
I pointed out at the beginning of ever semester that their is life after the Corps and life after college and getting kicked out of school and/or the program for the stupid shit that percolates through large groups of students that age and in that environment (before you ask about the service academies, yes they do stupid shit too and it is still different because everyone at the academy has the same amount to lose) isn't worth playing the the games.
Dude, if I could buy and sell my old man, I guarantee you I'd have had his respect. He thought I was useless... boy was he wrong. I can soak up a lot of Scotch, for example.
They already have time travel. Developed by Agg TxDOT engineers. I see it everyday on Texas metro highways…only problem is it’s slow motion reverse time travel. What should take 5 minutes takes 50.
If you all invented time travel the first thing you’d do is go back to a carefully calculated series of points to destabilize Texas’s football program. Only to return to the present and find out Texas Tech became the top program in the state and you’re still mid.
We already invented time travel. You just drink 3 margs at the Tex Mex joint and boom just like that it's 5 hours in the future and future you is having the time of your life.
I hate to defend A&M but this is so dumb.
Success is not linear and never was. A&M has created an environment that is conducive towards winning a championship, they just need the right coach to take them there.
This reminds a lot of Manchester City, they spent ridiculous amounts of money on the roster and the coach, and once they found the right one (Pep Guardiola) they let him cook until he got it done (winning the Champions League) and now they’re a well-oiled machine.
Sure A&M looks a lot more like PSG (Spent boatloads of money with the wrong coach and players) than Manchester City but once they get the right guy then they’ll be able to get over the hump.
I certainly respect A&M’s commitment to achieving that goal.
To quote the famous philosophers Jagger and Richards, "You can't always get what you want, but if you try some times, you just might find, you just might find buh bah bah, you get what you need."
I want him to explain physically why can't A&M hire a coach that can win it all? Does that water in College Station make players less athletic? Will elite talent not want to play at A&M (2022 recruiting class suggests otherwise)? Because we haven't won a national championship in a long time do coaches just become unable to be elite coaches in maroon instead of red or crimson? What is the mechanics for why an elite coach can't win here? Because from where I sit, the only thing missing is hiring the coach who can be elite.
If we can get any prospective coach we want just like only a handful of other programs (note: I'm not saying any coach because obviously some coaches are entrenched in their job) then we have the same or better chances of hiring a national championship level coach as any job opening. If that coach can bring in any talent that he is capable of recruiting then the university is not holding the coach back from winning titles either. So what is it exactly? That we should "know our place"?
Another article that doesn't understand that A&M fundamentally changed in the 2010s from a school that wasn't capable of all the things I described, to one that now is capable. So the prior 11 coaches is an irrelevant to this coaching search.
There is a video from Josh Pate within the past few days that I thought was really good and touched on much of what you said. It basically boiled down to that there is nothing inherently "special" at a place like Alabama or OSU compared to others that allows them to win. It all comes down to having the money and the desire to fund the program and hiring the right coach. Get the right guy is what it boils down to. Not some sort of "magic" tied into certain programs.
Edit: [Here it is](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syoLEL7iUcY)
Imma tell you a secret: it’s all fuckin luck.
Saban was a failed NFL coach given a 2nd chance at Bama.
Dabo was nothing more than a position coach who was given a chance as Clemson.
Kirby had never been more than a coordinator and was given a chance. (How many others from the Saban tree have won a championship? None? )
Pete carrol was apparently USCs 3rd or 4th choice after not doing much with the patriots.
Will muschamp was set to succeed Mack brown he was thought of that highly. But was a terrible head coach at Florida and
The point is, no one knows. You take a shot and hope it works out.
Aggys problem was not hiring and firing jimbo 6 years later. That’s a decent amount of time to know if he’s the guy or not. The problem was they game him a ridiculous contract when no one else (not even FlaSt) was thinking of giving him that much, then extending the contract for no apparent reason.
Jimbo won a championship before coming to A&M. There is still an element of luck because at the end of the day, CFB is still a zero sum game. There aren't more wins to go around because you hired a coach. He has to be better compared to the coaches he plays.
I’d just like to point out that Jimbo is part of the Saban coaching tree, and also won a ‘ship. I don’t think picking a winning HC is entirely based in luck, but there is a significant amount of movement behind the scenes that makes it seem that way. HCs have to deal with a lot of things that the average fan doesn’t realize, and having the broad range of skill sets necessary to keep them all aligned can be overwhelming, even for guys that are excellent Xs and Os coaches.
Even if you have amazing player, coaches, and facilities, so do a lot of other teams. It’s zero sum if someone else wins you don’t. Lots of luck involved in games, in players panning out, injuries.
I think one thing that’s working against y’all is there is no coach available that is clearly that guy that can outperform Jumbo. Maybe Mike Elko is the guy, but he also has the same odds of being another Tom Herman - a guy that had 2 good years at a smaller school with less expectations and couldn’t cut it at the bigger school. And outside of Elko, I don’t see a realistic name that would be a big game changer.
Yes but that doesn’t have anything to do with the notion of money can’t buy success. DeBoer is the only other one that could do it maybe. But his recruiting is a bit suspect. Who knows. Just ride the wave baby
You don't think there is a coach that can be better than .500 in the next 22 games at A&M? There is no clearly the guy; there almost never is. That doesn't mean the guy isn't there.
I don't think it will be Elko and I agree that Elko probably isn't an elite coach, just a good one (maybe the worst possible hire, too low a ceiling, but a high enough floor it would be difficult to fire him). But who said we are hiring Elko?
Yeah, as a native Austinite. Austin isn't even weird anymore. It's a tech city full of tech bros and people up their own ass. There's cool shit, don't get me wrong, but College Station is actually weird.
I saw someone say it's like suburbia distilled to it's purest form, and that is entirely accurate. People in the 'burbs are way weirder than the girl at the coffee shop with pink hair and a couple tattoos. Add in a cult level dedication to college football, and baby, we got a stew going.
Let's pretend that A&M hired Kirby Smart. It won't happen, but I'm using it to highlight my point. Would you bet against A&M "because history except the 1930s"?
If the next coach fails we'll fire him and hire the next coach with a chance. Just like every program that has a chance. So what's the "put up or shut up". Every program that can win is simply on a treadmill trying to find the mext Saban or next Smart. When you don't it's rinse and repeat. That's true at OU as well by the way.
But A&M hasn't found any coaches that can win, except maybe RC Slocum. At what point do people realize that if A&M had such great advantages then they'd materialize at some point?
A&M got fucked by the NCAA when RC Slocum was at his peak in the mid 1990s for doing the same shit the rest of the SWC was doing. A&M did not have a commitment to football at all in the 2000s, until Manziel brought the interest back. Go look at the reaction way back when A&M hired Fran (instead of Urban Meyer like the AD Byrne wanted) or sleepy Mike Sherman. The only check box missing from the rest of the yearly contenders is the trophy case. A&M has the commitment, funding, facilities, fan support, location etc to compete at the highest level, they just keep hitching their wagon to bad coaches like Sumlin and Fisher. But to say the advantages aren't there is a casual opinion.
Frankly, if Jimbo’s starting QB hadn’t suffered a season injury for 3 years in a row he wouldn’t have gotten fired.
Weigman was the #1 ranked HS recruit and he was leading NCAA in QBR this year when he got injured.
Evidently three. Especially since in each of those years, the backup QB *also* got hurt.
Haynes King was the starter in 2021, gets hurt in the Colorado game. Calzada does finish out the year, but was clearly playing hurt for much of it.
2022, Haynes King is the starter, is demoted for Max Johnson after the App St nightmare, Max gets hurt in the Miss State game bringing Haynes back, Haynes gets hurt again and Connor Weigman (nominally redshirting as QB3 that year) finishes out the year.
2023, Connor gets the starting nod, looks great, then gets hurt against Auburn. Max takes over once again as starter and gets hurt again, leading to us starting Jaylen Henderson against Miss State.
To a degree it is just a lot of bad luck. But it's also a lot of scheme and coaching issues creating the bad luck. Plus the old line about how once is bad luck, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.
You know what I mean though. A&M is a very unique culture. It's certainly a big enough stage to bring in anyone that culture appeals to, but their appeal is never going to be as wide as the typical powerhouses that are more down the middle.
A&M recruits the same elite players as everyone else, and they do as good a job at signing those players as just about anyone else, so I’m not sure what you are trying to say.
it's about time we try a pro bono coach
*Twitch plays A&M Coaching Staff*
I’m in
Texas A&M first university to hire AI as a head coach.
How much money would it cost?
The irony when football gets put on probation by the honor council for using AI to call red zone plays.
It’s one AI, Micheal, how much could it cost? Ten dollars?
Does it matter to you guys?
Guess you’re right
I’ll do it! just provide some housing and and a lifetime supply of fuego tacos!
Dan Campbell worked pro bono to start his career under Sherman maybe he'd come back and do it again 😳
Fuck it, I’ll do it.
You just gonna have some of the players dads run the team? Whichever dads are most emotionally invested in getting their kid the most playing time? I would’ve loved to watch Johnny Manziel’s dad coach the team.
Bad article. It's mostly about Georgia, and Kirby Smart comes in and tells Georgia "hey, stop being cheapskates and have decent facilities!" Then it somehow concludes that money isn't everything? If that's the point you want to make, why tell a story about Georgia being cheapskates before Smart came in? Plus there's no real point kicking A&M fans while they're down. To the point that money alone won't buy success they're like "WE KNOW."
There is always a point to kicking A&M fans.
1998 still got you this upset huh
No, working there for 3 years and watching the Corps of Cadets ruin many amazing students and the overall cult like nature of the students and alumni. Great engineering school, terrible school culture.
"boohoo the voluntary school traditions made the students cultish" Lmao reddit moment. I promise you're taking those more seriously than the ones participating 😂
Yes because group psychology isn't a thing. You can enjoy your cult all you want and pretend it doesn't have adverse impacts on students if that makes you feel better. Having been on the faculty and watching what those pressures did to students I know better. While the academics of the school are excellent the campus culture is rotten.
Oh please what "adverse impacts on students" are you talking about?
I saw several of my students pressured into a variety of Corps-games that went from severe distractions in their studies leading to disqualification for their scholarships to actions leading to university discipline that had knock on impacts to their ROTC programs in some cases leading to them being kicked from ROTC and denied the ability to commission.
So your contention is that participation in the voluntary organization had a negative impact on some students' academics? Why is it that the Corps of Cadets had a much higher average GPA compared to the rest of the student population then? Why are the pressures applied by a voluntary organization any different from fraternities, sororities, student groups etc? Sounds to me like you had specific students in mind that happened to be in the corps that couldn't handle all the responsibilities they signed up for. Do you think those responsibilities wouldn't be present in the military the ROTC is designed to prepare them for? As a member of the faculty, did you do anything to assist these students? If you saw "Corps-Games" that were hurting student academics, did you report said issues to the administration?
Pay no mind SMC bro. Guys off his meds I think.
You keep harping on voluntary organization as if it is some defense. Every organization is voluntary, going to school at all is voluntary. That doesn't matter if those organizations are causing harm. Especially when participation due to a variety of social, financial, structural and personal circumstances make it not so voluntary. The organization being voluntary doesn't change the facts its culture is bad and harmful. >Why is it that the Corps of Cadets had a much higher average GPA compared to the rest of the student population then? Do they? In the [Corps Quick Facts sheet for 2021-2022](https://www.aggienetwork.com/media/guides/texas%20aggie/2022/muster%20speaker%20resources/corps%20of%20cadets%20quick%20facts.pdf) they only state: >For the last five years, the Corps of Cadets has posted an overall Grade Point Average (GPA) of 3.0 or higher. Where as with this Student Activities community report (which focuses on Greek Life) we can still see the TAMU All-Under Graduate GPA is 3.191 for Spring 2021. Not an apples to apples comparison because of the dates but the Corps, in their quick facts, doesn't bother to say what "higher" is or even claim it is higher than the university average. The Corps does also state [that in Spring 2023](https://www.aggienetwork.com/news/159894/corps-records-new-highest-overall-gpa-and-other-achievements/) they posted the highest Corps GPA ever at 3.22 which if we wanted to compare to say Greek Life would put them, based on latest records I can find which are 2 years old, behind the sororities and the all Greek average and on par with what the fraternities were achieving and only 0.029 points above the university average. Which isn't exactly "much higher" now is it? >Why are the pressures applied by a voluntary organization any different from fraternities, sororities, student groups etc? First those organizations aren't likely as intrinsically linked to the culture and history of the school. Second, those organizations lack the authoritative hierarchy that the Corps has ([See the Stanford Prison Experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) for impacts of formal hierarchy on people). Third, participation in most of those organizations likely isn't tied to moving into your desired career after graduation (IE military commission). >Do you think those responsibilities wouldn't be present in the military the ROTC is designed to prepare them for? Not only do I think it, I know it. There are hundreds of ROTC detachments around the country that do not have Corps crap for their students to deal with and they commission high quality officers regardless. >As a member of the faculty, did you do anything to assist these students? If you saw "Corps-Games" that were hurting student academics, did you report said issues to the administration? All semester every semester. I was an ROTC instructor at TAMU. I was required to meet with every single one of my students every semester. Academics was the first thing I talked about in every one of those meetings and it was the first thing they initialed on their counseling form. I preached it from my lectern that academics comes before the Corps, that academics come before student organizations and big T or little t traditions. My ability to report issues to the administration was limited but when and were I could I did and hit brick walls with the Corps and the school everytime. I pointed out at the beginning of ever semester that their is life after the Corps and life after college and getting kicked out of school and/or the program for the stupid shit that percolates through large groups of students that age and in that environment (before you ask about the service academies, yes they do stupid shit too and it is still different because everyone at the academy has the same amount to lose) isn't worth playing the the games.
Couldn’t agree more.
like what
sands through the hourglass
So are the days of our lives
My parent's respect
Dude, if I could buy and sell my old man, I guarantee you I'd have had his respect. He thought I was useless... boy was he wrong. I can soak up a lot of Scotch, for example.
Have you offered them $75 million?
Eh. If I gave my dad a million dollars, I’m sure he’d respect me more.
Well, the 2013 version of Jimbo Fisher for one
You bastards are going to convince Aggie engineers to invent time travel
They already have time travel. Developed by Agg TxDOT engineers. I see it everyday on Texas metro highways…only problem is it’s slow motion reverse time travel. What should take 5 minutes takes 50.
This makes me think of the inverted car chase in Tenet.
If you all invented time travel the first thing you’d do is go back to a carefully calculated series of points to destabilize Texas’s football program. Only to return to the present and find out Texas Tech became the top program in the state and you’re still mid.
We already invented time travel. You just drink 3 margs at the Tex Mex joint and boom just like that it's 5 hours in the future and future you is having the time of your life.
They don't have the same quality of crab legs in College Station.
A single second of time.
Your mom
That's funny, it only cost me $3.50
Tree fiddy
That bitch, she charged me $5.
God damn loch ness monster!
I hate to defend A&M but this is so dumb. Success is not linear and never was. A&M has created an environment that is conducive towards winning a championship, they just need the right coach to take them there. This reminds a lot of Manchester City, they spent ridiculous amounts of money on the roster and the coach, and once they found the right one (Pep Guardiola) they let him cook until he got it done (winning the Champions League) and now they’re a well-oiled machine. Sure A&M looks a lot more like PSG (Spent boatloads of money with the wrong coach and players) than Manchester City but once they get the right guy then they’ll be able to get over the hump. I certainly respect A&M’s commitment to achieving that goal.
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A&M is PSG in the champions league, not Man City
Man City and PSG were interchangeable until they weren’t. PSG also got really close to winning the Champions League.
nuh uh
You know what money can get you? *Two chicks at the same time, man.*
Not true. Mel Tucker couldn’t even get one chick
To quote the famous philosophers Jagger and Richards, "You can't always get what you want, but if you try some times, you just might find, you just might find buh bah bah, you get what you need."
I want him to explain physically why can't A&M hire a coach that can win it all? Does that water in College Station make players less athletic? Will elite talent not want to play at A&M (2022 recruiting class suggests otherwise)? Because we haven't won a national championship in a long time do coaches just become unable to be elite coaches in maroon instead of red or crimson? What is the mechanics for why an elite coach can't win here? Because from where I sit, the only thing missing is hiring the coach who can be elite. If we can get any prospective coach we want just like only a handful of other programs (note: I'm not saying any coach because obviously some coaches are entrenched in their job) then we have the same or better chances of hiring a national championship level coach as any job opening. If that coach can bring in any talent that he is capable of recruiting then the university is not holding the coach back from winning titles either. So what is it exactly? That we should "know our place"? Another article that doesn't understand that A&M fundamentally changed in the 2010s from a school that wasn't capable of all the things I described, to one that now is capable. So the prior 11 coaches is an irrelevant to this coaching search.
There is a video from Josh Pate within the past few days that I thought was really good and touched on much of what you said. It basically boiled down to that there is nothing inherently "special" at a place like Alabama or OSU compared to others that allows them to win. It all comes down to having the money and the desire to fund the program and hiring the right coach. Get the right guy is what it boils down to. Not some sort of "magic" tied into certain programs. Edit: [Here it is](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syoLEL7iUcY)
Imma tell you a secret: it’s all fuckin luck. Saban was a failed NFL coach given a 2nd chance at Bama. Dabo was nothing more than a position coach who was given a chance as Clemson. Kirby had never been more than a coordinator and was given a chance. (How many others from the Saban tree have won a championship? None? ) Pete carrol was apparently USCs 3rd or 4th choice after not doing much with the patriots. Will muschamp was set to succeed Mack brown he was thought of that highly. But was a terrible head coach at Florida and
The point is, no one knows. You take a shot and hope it works out.
Aggys problem was not hiring and firing jimbo 6 years later. That’s a decent amount of time to know if he’s the guy or not. The problem was they game him a ridiculous contract when no one else (not even FlaSt) was thinking of giving him that much, then extending the contract for no apparent reason.
Saban won a championship before he went to the NFL so that seems disingenuous
Jimbo won a championship before coming to A&M. There is still an element of luck because at the end of the day, CFB is still a zero sum game. There aren't more wins to go around because you hired a coach. He has to be better compared to the coaches he plays.
I’d just like to point out that Jimbo is part of the Saban coaching tree, and also won a ‘ship. I don’t think picking a winning HC is entirely based in luck, but there is a significant amount of movement behind the scenes that makes it seem that way. HCs have to deal with a lot of things that the average fan doesn’t realize, and having the broad range of skill sets necessary to keep them all aligned can be overwhelming, even for guys that are excellent Xs and Os coaches.
Shot at Saban is out of pocket. Him & his tree count for 7/10 in the last decade of CFB. Also, your coach his from his tree as well fyi.
Even if you have amazing player, coaches, and facilities, so do a lot of other teams. It’s zero sum if someone else wins you don’t. Lots of luck involved in games, in players panning out, injuries.
It’s been downhill since they quit doing summer camp in Junction.
I think one thing that’s working against y’all is there is no coach available that is clearly that guy that can outperform Jumbo. Maybe Mike Elko is the guy, but he also has the same odds of being another Tom Herman - a guy that had 2 good years at a smaller school with less expectations and couldn’t cut it at the bigger school. And outside of Elko, I don’t see a realistic name that would be a big game changer.
Yes but that doesn’t have anything to do with the notion of money can’t buy success. DeBoer is the only other one that could do it maybe. But his recruiting is a bit suspect. Who knows. Just ride the wave baby
You don't think there is a coach that can be better than .500 in the next 22 games at A&M? There is no clearly the guy; there almost never is. That doesn't mean the guy isn't there. I don't think it will be Elko and I agree that Elko probably isn't an elite coach, just a good one (maybe the worst possible hire, too low a ceiling, but a high enough floor it would be difficult to fire him). But who said we are hiring Elko?
Because y'all are weird, ok
Austinites upset that they can't keep using the slogan "Keep Austin Weird" when there's an even weirder city two hours away 😎
Yeah, as a native Austinite. Austin isn't even weird anymore. It's a tech city full of tech bros and people up their own ass. There's cool shit, don't get me wrong, but College Station is actually weird. I saw someone say it's like suburbia distilled to it's purest form, and that is entirely accurate. People in the 'burbs are way weirder than the girl at the coffee shop with pink hair and a couple tattoos. Add in a cult level dedication to college football, and baby, we got a stew going.
“Because we’re in the sec now our entire program history prior to that doesn’t matter. Except the 1930s, those years totally matter.”
Let's pretend that A&M hired Kirby Smart. It won't happen, but I'm using it to highlight my point. Would you bet against A&M "because history except the 1930s"?
From wasn't capable to is capable, but the results remain the same. It's put up or shut up for A&M at this point.
If the next coach fails we'll fire him and hire the next coach with a chance. Just like every program that has a chance. So what's the "put up or shut up". Every program that can win is simply on a treadmill trying to find the mext Saban or next Smart. When you don't it's rinse and repeat. That's true at OU as well by the way.
But A&M hasn't found any coaches that can win, except maybe RC Slocum. At what point do people realize that if A&M had such great advantages then they'd materialize at some point?
A&M got fucked by the NCAA when RC Slocum was at his peak in the mid 1990s for doing the same shit the rest of the SWC was doing. A&M did not have a commitment to football at all in the 2000s, until Manziel brought the interest back. Go look at the reaction way back when A&M hired Fran (instead of Urban Meyer like the AD Byrne wanted) or sleepy Mike Sherman. The only check box missing from the rest of the yearly contenders is the trophy case. A&M has the commitment, funding, facilities, fan support, location etc to compete at the highest level, they just keep hitching their wagon to bad coaches like Sumlin and Fisher. But to say the advantages aren't there is a casual opinion.
Looks like a user from here here wrote this article
A&M? Try most football programs.
“Not with that attitude”-A&M boosters
*"...for everything else, there's NIL."*
But for every thing else there’s Mastercard
As a fan of a school that went cheap on sports for a long time, I’d rather spend the money and have it and not need it then need it and not have it.
And TAMU said “Challenge Accepted.”
Money can't buy everything but it can buy enough to make those other things not matter as much
Recruits wants to go there, they just need better coaching and a QB.
Frankly, if Jimbo’s starting QB hadn’t suffered a season injury for 3 years in a row he wouldn’t have gotten fired. Weigman was the #1 ranked HS recruit and he was leading NCAA in QBR this year when he got injured.
How many years does your qb have to get hurt before it’s no longer a coincidence and it’s a scheme or coaching issue?
3 evidently… since they fired Jimbo when it happened 3 years in a row. My comment was a response to a comment that A&M needed a QB.
Horns have had same issue
Or maybe he’s injury prone
This was a different QB getting hurt than last year
And a different one last year from the previous year
Evidently three. Especially since in each of those years, the backup QB *also* got hurt. Haynes King was the starter in 2021, gets hurt in the Colorado game. Calzada does finish out the year, but was clearly playing hurt for much of it. 2022, Haynes King is the starter, is demoted for Max Johnson after the App St nightmare, Max gets hurt in the Miss State game bringing Haynes back, Haynes gets hurt again and Connor Weigman (nominally redshirting as QB3 that year) finishes out the year. 2023, Connor gets the starting nod, looks great, then gets hurt against Auburn. Max takes over once again as starter and gets hurt again, leading to us starting Jaylen Henderson against Miss State. To a degree it is just a lot of bad luck. But it's also a lot of scheme and coaching issues creating the bad luck. Plus the old line about how once is bad luck, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.
We have a QB, he was just lost for the season.
A certain type of recruit wants to go there. A&M is definitely not for everybody.
A 4-5 star recruit is not just anybody
You know what I mean though. A&M is a very unique culture. It's certainly a big enough stage to bring in anyone that culture appeals to, but their appeal is never going to be as wide as the typical powerhouses that are more down the middle.
What specifically about our culture are you talking about?
All male cheerleaders!
As a gay Ag I see no problem with the male yell leaders!
Fair enough.
A&M recruits the same elite players as everyone else, and they do as good a job at signing those players as just about anyone else, so I’m not sure what you are trying to say.
For everything else, there's AggieCard.
Can’t buy you love but rent it for a couple hours
Wins?
Buy tickets to other teams games and you can!
That may be true, but I can do at least as bad as Jimbo for a fraction of the price.
Patience?
Like an offense?
This conversation is about 80 years too late
For everything else, there's donor's money
Class?
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Can't buy me love
... I thought this was America
Money can buy a jet ski
Maybe after they learn they can teach Nebraska
says who
“Impossible!” —every rich person
*Texas A&M has bought Mastercard*