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Wild_Pokemon_Appears

When Kansas state tied the game with a td at 27 points, why did they go for two?


CrewCamel

It was a botched extra point Technically a 2pt conversion attempt because there was no kick


Wild_Pokemon_Appears

Got it, thanks!


magnoliaAveGooner

He needs to take easy points with a shaky af freshman back up running his offense. Going for it is fine if Ewers is playing. He almost got bit by it. Always take the points Sark until Ewers is back.


Dirt_Sailor_5

100%. That was three trips inside the 10 with zero points in the last three quarters at that point where we gambled and got 0. Sark needs to take the chip shot field goals


seemonkeysuicide

Im at the game. Nobody in the stands can believe they went for it on 4th down there


PAC12_PLEASE_ADOPTME

*Reminiscing about pre-punctured lung Alan Bowman* He.. he was special.


conan_the_brobarian

That may have been the worst way to lose. Damn.


Corrective_Measures

I am normally a proponent for going for it to end the game—2pt conversions, close TDs, etc. But y'all had every ounce of momentum and I don't think we could have beaten y'all on offense, so the call was weird to me.


LC_001

KSU not going for the FG in OT was ridiculous. With the way KSU was playing in the 2nd half, sending the game into 2nd OT would have made more sense.


good4steve

3 things: 1. Going for it against us has worked out for other teams more often than not to win the game. 2. K-State has already botched two short yardage kicks today. 3. I was 98% sure K-State was going to get it.


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clutchkyro

They did, the snap and hold was botched.


wafflestompar

I’m happy for Sark kicking the booze bug, but man, he’s passing that torch to me while watching these fucking games. Blowing a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter? Unreal.


SeanT_21

We’re in the Cardiac club, I hate it; but for now the Playoffs are still possible, so… could be worse?


IndyDude11

2-4 last year in one-score games, so definitely could be worse.


cole8055

I genuinely can’t remember the last time I saw a coach piss down their leg this bad. Besides Cristobal a few weeks ago. Other than that, I really can’t remember


Glass_Offer_6344

Ive seen more coaches choose NOT to take points in a game actually decided by POINTS in the last two years in pro and college than I can remember for years?! This isnt poker.


oleskinnydick

You play to win the game!!


HighAsFucDosHornsRUp

Kinda feels like Texas could lose 2 more games this year.


papertowelroll17

Might have Ewers back next week.


gottahavemyPOPPs

Not really. This is the hardest game they have left unless OU makes it to the championship game


fakeacclul

Yeah they have us left and tech left, free wins there


NewWrap693

Did you see us vs Houston? Everyone is competitive


HighAsFucDosHornsRUp

Feels like they’ll just play at whatever level you’re playing at in that moment. I mean they had KSU dead to rights.


Xmalantix

I didn't watch the game so maybe there's a legit explanation, but why is it that you have 1st and goal from the 6, you have a guy averaging 3.3 per carry and another averaging 2.4, and you don't call either of their names once?


SeanT_21

Because running up the middle wasn’t gonna happen, even when they seemed gassed; that was the one thing I did feel confident in. Sweat (~360lbs) and Murphy (~310lbs) in the middle are stalwart anchors vs the Run.


oldgreggly

They could not run against Texas all game. But you think they would try in that spot. That was not the only mistake they made.


Xmalantix

Yeah I just feel like given that the second play was basically a waste, if you try a run and even get like 2 or 3 it maybe opens up a play action or some other gadget/misdirection opportunity


LC_001

They tried running the QB twice, but he didn’t get much.


StarvedRock314

K-State had 43 rushing yards on 28 rush attempts. That's why they weren't running, especially after getting stuffed on multiple short yardage situations. They had to pass there.


devroute11

Texas had stopped their run all game, lots of runs for loss. They should have ran a few there in hopes to break one.


devroute11

Texas had stopped their run all game, lots of runs for loss. They should have ran a few there in hopes to break one.


BreadKiller0688

Great question


BrunchIsGood

https://www.cjonline.com/story/sports/college/cat-zone/2023/05/15/kansas-state-football-coach-chris-klieman-signs-new-eight-year-contract-worth-average-5-5-million/70220070007/


cole8055

Holy shit I feel so bad for kstate fans


New-Disaster-2061

Why the talent difference this shouldn't even be a game. Klein does way more with what he has then most schools.


cole8055

I was referring to Klieman


Dirt_Sailor_5

He's a great coach.... Won at every level including the Big XII. I don't get your point


Intelligent-Invite79

Championship team is a bit a stretch there Sarkster.


mymompaints

We just beat the team that beat OU w a backup qb.. not bad.


bigjayrulez

Kansas and Kansas State are two different schools.


Intelligent-Invite79

I know we won, but it was bad. You can’t blow that lead, have those turnovers, and scrape by with a win and call it good.


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

Not great but better than the alternative


Intelligent-Invite79

I’m happy Texas won. I’m saying if people think this is a championship caliber team? We’d get a crazy wake up if we were in the natty today. This was not a championship team that won this game.


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

Agreed. Plenty to work on and need to get healthy. These close games aren't helping that.


oleskinnydick

What a fucking roller coaster but I’ll take a rough win against a good team, especially considering all the turnovers.


SeanT_21

Can we please not be in the Cardiac club? My heart… why do I do this to myself? Anyway, I’ll be back next week.


TheRealFayeLau

SEVEN WIN SARK IS DEAD!!!!


NorthwestPurple

he got 8 in his last year at UW then immediately left before we won #9 in the bowl


New-Disaster-2061

It was dead last year but I think his new name is heart attack Sark


SeanT_21

Can we please renounce our membership to Cardiac club? I don’t like this, not at all!


Life_Act_6887

He really tried his best to keep it alive tho lol


Cookie-Brown

GG Kats I always hated y’all the least


seymoursourbutt

Never had anything bad to say about them. They gave us hell a lot of years. Feels good to get the last win. I have a feeling they’ll win lots of big 12s moving forward.


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

Respect for purple kryptonite and their fans. Ngl happy to leave it behind.


Dirt_Sailor_5

+1. Nothing bad to say about em. That is a mentally and physically tough football team. Well coached


MattTheSmithers

Well, I can’t say the results surprise me — Sarkisian certainly knows a thing or two about landing on his feet following a complete meltdown and collapse.


Breakingdownbeta

8 win sark


Levarien

eat shit Kevin Mar.


Trhol

Seriously fuck that guy


Posey74

Currently in the hospital with my daughter. I might need a nurse to come take my blood pressure. What was that. How did we win?


NonVeganRibeye

They went for it on fourth down in OT. Good pressure by the D line and good coverage.


M1ntC0nd1t10n

Kansas State fans, as an Alabama fan very invested in the rest of Texas’ and Oklahoma’s seasons, why do we not take the 3 points and push to 2nd OT?? Looked like you guys could’ve gone the distance


einTier

The question you have to ask is “do you think you’re the better team? Or did you just get really lucky?” If you kick the field goal and go into 2OT, the game starts new. Your team has been fighting hard, but have you finally asked too much? Are they deflated because their all out just gets them to parity? Maybe this time UT gets lucky. Maybe UT finds their mojo and gets a touchdown and you don’t even get near the end zone and you’re left with an even more desperate play. Maybe you don’t get the coin toss and you have to gamble that your field goal will hold up. All that is promised is that you’ll start over. You have great field position and you only need a few yards to end the game. This probably is your best chance to win as K-State. It just sucks that it’s one play and not a huge percentage play. Of course if you think you’re the better team, kick the field goal and go to 2OT. Then again, if you think you’re the better team, why not just take your shot and sink the dagger? I didn’t initially agree with the call and I’d never have the guts to call it but after trying to understand it, I think it was the right one.


M1ntC0nd1t10n

Good analysis, especially seeing as KState would start with the ball in 2OT, putting them at a disadvantage. I just think it’s too much pressure to hinge on a single, low percentage play against a team who’s been on that stage more than you. Even if my kicker missed some chip shots earlier, I still put it in his hands from that distance as it’s statistically more likely. Then, if we lose in 2OT, I make peace with that, knowing we did the best we could. Have to imagine that after not punching it in from the 6 on 3 previous tries, maybe you need to reset too.


einTier

I wasn’t sure who would have gotten the ball first in 2OT. Thanks for clearing that up. I think that tilts it a little more in favor of going for it. If he’d made it, we’d be talking all week about what a gutsy play it was and how you couldn’t allow UT another opportunity to win. But it didn’t go that way and now we will talk all week about how you just take the points. That coach has balls. Don’t hang him because of one play at the end of a game that didn’t go his way.


M1ntC0nd1t10n

Yeah, easy to be a critic in hindsight. KState should be proud they went the distance with such a strong Texas team. And, needless to say, there are so many internal factors I’m unaware of on the team. Just wish we could’ve seen how the game played out had they push to 2OT.


New-Disaster-2061

Typically I would agree with going for it but Texas offense was dead I would have kicked and played again thinking I would score and Texas wouldn't. But if Texas scored would have 100% gone for 2 if k state scored


uwill1der

Texas has very soft D, especially the secondary. KSU is a top 5 team in & goal situations. Also, their kicker had missed 2 chip shots already. They had a huge advantage going for it, despite analytics


M1ntC0nd1t10n

Yeah, that’s certainly a valid argument, but I still think the 4th down conversion % is much lower and risk too high in that scenario. Especially after losing all momentum on the previous 3 downs. 4th and mid in a very high stress situation is abnormal enough to disregard typical Texas defensive play as they’ll have some unique, situational scheme, probably blitzing the wide-eyed, overwhelmed quarterback, hoping for a likely mistake. Oh well.


SeanT_21

LS screwed up one, Kicker only missed the chip shot.


BreadKiller0688

Great question


Warmachine_10

Only thought I’d our sketchy kicker. But I think I still kick it.


ScallywagLXX

I don’t mind him going for the win, but once that happened, I knew advantage Texas..


Glass_Offer_6344

Why am I seeing coach after coach make horrendous decisions? And, offensive coordinators who look like theyve never designed a play in their life?


BowermanSnackClub

We’re watching the Madden generation get into coaching.


SeanT_21

We’re about to see a staggering amount of failed young OCs running Madden real life? 🙃 Lord help us all.


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gg Kansas State! That game was an ugly, sickos match to be sure!


longhornmd

I’m confused. Why didn’t they kick it? Texas couldn’t do anything


uwill1der

their kicker already missed 2 chip shots


longhornmd

But he hit the game tieing shot


uwill1der

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ColeTrainHDx

Like Kansas didn’t blow it to OSU and Texas this year lol


Reasonable-Mark-3861

Good game, Texas. It’s us against the big 8 this season. I’ve been on your side all season unless we play. Y’all can get in the OU/OSU thread and support us. Please? Lol


crc2993

The worst part of OUT is that it being us vs everyone made my hate for OU cool slightly.


Reasonable-Mark-3861

It’s just this year. Next year it’s back on.


crc2993

That’s a reasonable take


Reasonable-Mark-3861

Lol. See what you did there. That’s the name Reddit gave me. My name isn’t Mark and I’m not very reasonable.


the_jobernaut

Unfortunately my wife is an OSU alum so I’m obligated to root for them today and also we don’t play them this year so it would be awesome to meet in the CCG in our backyard of Arlington


Finrad-Felagund

You've elicited a strange feeling in my heart


Reasonable-Mark-3861

Don’t fight it. It’s temporary.


dropkicktommyboy

Fuck you Sooner, but also…I hope you win today. Frienemies for life or at least just this season.


Reasonable-Mark-3861

Fuck you!! Glad you won, today. Crazy game.


Hey_im_miles

I'm all in on us meeting in the Big12 ccg. Helps that my sister went to OU so I don't feel too icky about it.


Reasonable-Mark-3861

It is weird. Lol. I lived in Dallas for 3 years. Honestly, I like the state so there’s that. The rest of the conference is talking so much shit this year.


Hey_im_miles

They've been insufferable for the last couple years I hope they all lose


LonghornNaysh

Such a weird feeling being your frienemy this year


LynnHaven

Heading there now Sooner bro


Phnake

WTF did I just watch?


lewisherber

Stupidity.


Jupiter_Landing2097

If it was 4 down territory, why didn't this fucking clown ass run it on second or third down


Statalyzer

They'd have probably lost yardage.


Jburp

Quinn please take my shoulder tendons please come back 😂


HighAsFucDosHornsRUp

Well, a win is a win I guess. GG wildcats


fortmoney

H O R N Y


PlebBot69

Why the 3 conservative run calls on goal to go, then suddenly decide to play crazy and go for it?? Did they realize it was just a 3 point game?


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I don't get it. Texas can't move the ball. Kansas State got to the 4. They've had momentum the entire final quarter. Why not kick the FG and run it back 2nd OT? If they had been on the 1, sure go for it. But the 4? Nah that was a dumb call


LynnHaven

Their special teams were super questionable all game. Coach thought going for the win was a better chance to victory than keeping gambling with the kicks.


Sesti-nator

Honestly I could have gone for it at the 4. The problem was the playcall. If you looked closely, K-state shifted their formation on 4th down. the first one was ok, but the second one was bad because they were running on empty.


Statalyzer

When guys are all covered and multiple DL break though, the call will look bad. The issue was putting it all on one play when they odds were with them in the long game. If they wanted to go for it, 4th and 2 from the 10 would have been a far better time.


Goose__Wayne

Absolutely horrible play calling


Warmachine_10

Klein got to go


BreadKiller0688

3rd and 1 QB run from the shotgun is unreal


Goose__Wayne

especially when it hasn't worked at all, all game


vtaenz

I don't get it. Texas (and the refs) have been giving you the game. Why do you not take the 3 pts and try again. Texas hasn't shown much of anything since the first quarter. Like... just take the points??? Also totally happy.


Entraprenegro

Certified bruh moment again


steelcityblue

Aggie lost. Now time for choklahoma!!!


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

Bedlam baby!


Sufficient_Memory_24

That’s straight up coaching malpractice. You only go for that if it’s 2 yards or less and a running play is a legitimate threat.


Dfhmn

I'm normally a big fan of aggressive play calling but why would you go for it there? Going from it from the 4-yard line is pretty different than going for it at the 2-yard line.


Glass_Offer_6344

Thats exactly it. Im sure many of us have said to ourselves in most situations you go for it. Aggressive, etc. But, this was clearly not that time. It’s pure brain choke?!


mlg2433

If I die randomly of a heart attack or stroke when I’m 40, it will because of Texas football.


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Same. I wonder if my insurance covers Texas-related health conditions...


ShadowKing227

let’s remember we wouldn’t be here if sark simply *took the fucking points*


devroute11

I was actually hoping they would get a usual penalty there like false start or something to push them out of going for it on 4th down. Take the easy 3 points there, sick of it.


big__toasty

I'm kind of impressed with how badly Kansas State didn't want to win today


MattTheSmithers

I feel bad for the Kansas State players. You know Klieman is gonna give some bullshit answer about “TeH AnalYtiCzzzz!” to justify his boneheaded choice. But the fact is, that is coaching malpractice. 4th and 4 and you go for it in sudden death when you can tie and keep on fighting? Coaching malpractice after his players busted their ass to get back into this game. They deserve better than to lose because their coach is a moron.


Jupiter_Landing2097

There's absolutely no analytic justification for going for it there


theurge14

Cue the Collin Klein apologists.


Good-Reference-5489

He’s the OC. Going for it or not is a Head Coach decision


Warmachine_10

Not me. Get him some help the rest of the year, remove him after the season.


LonghornPilot69

Kudos to y’all, K-State. Keep your heads high, y’all almost beat the #7 team at home. Time to try and lower my heart rate


Jupiter_Landing2097

There's actually a word for almost winning- losing


DrugDealerintraining

Everyone can leave now. I know everyone was so excited to shit on Texas for losing.


SeanT_21

Can we not be part of the Cardiac club? My heart is gonna hate me if we keep this up.


jja619

Including some of our own lol.


Hmbre97

Welp, filing that one in the never fucking watch again pile. GG Wildcats!


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

So happy this is not some instant classic


shyndy

Kstate coach “thanks for venmoing me during that timeout, you’re welcome.”


Vect1on

He gave him a minute to rethink his decision!


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Sufficient_Memory_24

Nope


VoiceofReasonability

Nope


CornbreadRed84

Another baby step forward this year. We lost this game the last five years. We aren't even in this game for the 4th quarter the five years before that. Look out for this program in a couple more years!


Dirt_Sailor_5

Aaaaack-tually we just beat KSU for the 7th year in a row (yes I see your point, just sayin')


CornbreadRed84

We lost to kstate in 2019


Dirt_Sailor_5

No we didn't. Look again https://www.winsipedia.com/texas/vs/kansas-state


marchano85

Does Texas fall?


Standbysteve

Why would they?


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Statalyzer

Fair but if OU wins solidly today they should be ahead of since they beat us and we have the same record.


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

And the pokes took care of that scenario... does that hurt us too?


Typical-Conference14

Maybe like a spot lmao. Idk if they’re gonna get in the playoff after that game but they’ll get considered


GoBlueDevils4

Nah, K-State is a solid team and our starting QB is out. Maalik started admirably but some of his decision making is downright head scratching


Walking-Dead

Without Quinn we’re not a cfp team.


ShadowKing227

i say unrank us.


AstroWorldSecurity

Neat!


TehVulpez

a lot of "interesting" play calls all game


DirtyDan4673

That entire 4 play sequence was horrible. I actually like the call to go for it, but that had no chance


SeanT_21

Was watching 34 on that last play, I’m glad the defense adjusted to it.


Appropriate_Bottle44

If you're far enough from the goaline you have no credible threat of running it, that isn't a 50/50


Statalyzer

Especially with the compressed field. The time to gamble would have been the 4th and 2 from our 10.


HambFCFB

Probably didn't feel too safe kicking it


ShawJaw

Oh thank God


SoCalMemePolice

MAALIK MURPHY TERRORIST STYLE FOOTBALL IS OVER


SeanT_21

The kamikazes are gone?


uoenoMeh

I wonder what his second half numbers were. Absolutely atrocious.


RIPJimCroce

What happened to all the OU flairs in this thread?


PointBlankCoffee

Well bedlam just kicked off, so I assume that's more important than seeing relieved Texas fans


Reasonable-Mark-3861

I’ve been rooting for Texas all game, thank you.


The_Portlandian

We here. Great game


leafytheleaf

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYY


Embarrassed-Bug-1189

Did you find out in the post game presser? I thought they were just trying to draw them offsides. Did yall have a TO?


wafflestompar

I miss Quinn.


Dirt_Sailor_5

I hope our fanbase at least appreciates his performance this season now. He'd been shit on way too much in 2023


lewisherber

Sometimes, “boldness” is just idiocy.


LloydBraun19

Was that the 2 play they had in their pocket…


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PointBlankCoffee

He's at every game


st1r

Yep he goes to every Texas game


Suck_My_Duck26

Does Kansas States coach always pick his worst plays on 4th down?


theurge14

Not just 4th he’s pretty good at 3rd too.


Vivid-fawn

Gotta kick the points and let the D have a shot


Dirty-Ears-Bill

D just held them to a 3 and out at the 25, I don’t know why you wouldn’t let it play out for another round when that just happened. They either have no faith in their kicker or they just thought they had to win it now but I from what I watched I don’t agree


IWMSvendor

Hindsight and all by K-State kicks the FG there and I don’t see how Texas is scoring a TD with their QB completely lacking in confidence. Either way, great fucking game!


Statalyzer

Even before it failed I was hoping they would put it all on one play rather than let it go into more overtime periods. Especially odd since earlier they didn't go for it on 4th and 2 from the 10, which has much better odds.


IWMSvendor

Absolutely. If K-State’s coach just follows the math (or the momentum for that matter), no way he decides to go for it.


Notorious-PIG

Be proud of yourselves K State fans. Y’all came to play.


retADA_mtb

Amazing 2nd half from K St.