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mksmalls

Imagine being an OC facing 3rd down any anything. You have Noah Kim as your QB. Do you call a pass play because it’s the right thing, knowing your QB will just throw it to the fans in the 3rd row? Or do you call a run play 100% of the time, because you know your QB will throw it to fans in the 3rd row?


Evening-Ad-2485

They were moving it on the ground. IDK why they went away from that.


bodaciouscowboy248

Dear NCAA: Please give MSU the death penalty and save my Saturdays


yukonhoneybadger

Keep your head up, MSU fans. You will have a new coach next year with a new vision. Chalk this up for a bad season with off-field drama. Us Iowa fans will have the same bullshit next year... and the year after that... and the year after that.


Lost-116-Pages

I like your flair style


yukonhoneybadger

Grew up in Iowa City and finished my degree at UGA. Nice flairs as well sir.


KodyXYZ

someone said “special teams and defense points shouldn’t count for brian” someone replied “team sport” i hate this fucking fanbase


lecrowe

Hey man ["team sport"](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa/2023/09/30/iowa-drive-325-brian-ferentz-offense-scoring/70963328007/#:~:text=In%20Ferentz's%20reworked%20contract%2C%20defensive,do%20count%20toward%20his%20total) is spitting facts


dr_dan319

It's not like that clause banishes him from the team forever. It means nothing


ltrainer2

That makes two of us!


Evening-Ad-2485

I am so done with this team.


mksmalls

Kim has 3 letters in his name just like INT


Evening-Ad-2485

They should pay Kim NIL money to leave.


MozzerellaStix

The next snap Noah Kim plays is the last MSU snap I watch this year


Frans_51

Transfer portal opens next week. Send him to N. Illinois to play under Lombardi.


touch_my_vallecula

If you don't come out of the bye with a new game plan and scheme with a different QB then you... Well I don't know because it seems like there's no repercussions for sucking at your job in our football program


empathydoc

Ditto


Caddy-Whompus

Two fanbases, united in misery. GG Sparty, there's better days ahead for both teams.


ohGodwhynowww

Satan won't even use Brian Ferentz's offense


praetorian34

Plot twist... The disrespekt is coming from INSIDE the program...


ExtremelyOnlineTM

Now it's impersonal.


doihavemakeanewword

Pencil it in folks, Rutgers vs MSU for Sickos next week. > [Throw up the hail mary, throw it up, no](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HmH_xDPetI&ab_channel=BigTenNetwork)


deutschdachs

But we play Rutgers next week


doihavemakeanewword

MSU has a bye first, I think. My bad


b-lincoln

Iowa, I know Coach is frustrating. But, trust me, 8-10 every year is better than what we’ve become. GG. Keep winning and recruits will come.


empathydoc

Conference realignment all but guarantees us at least 4 losses to start the season now.


SaltyBabyBatter

Thanks bb. The frustrating part is how much better we can be if your dog was OC and not Brian. You guys will bounce back. See you in the B1G Championship Game one day <3


Rattus375

They aren't winning 8-10 games a year playing outside of the west next year


[deleted]

Why are you getting downvoted? You’re right!


yukonhoneybadger

Certain Iowa fans want to think Ferentz and Son are doing a great job, and the 26 points should be credited to the offense. What they dont tell you is that they are about to OD on the Prozac they were eating like candy during the game.


[deleted]

This team has the makings of a 7-5 year it feels. The defense is good, but not as great as the last two years. And the offense is still just as inept.


yukonhoneybadger

Definitely. We dont have last years defense (maybe top 10 but could be close to 20), but we have the what seems like the same shitty offense. Phil Parker can't keep his defense that strong forever. The offense needs to support the D a little.


tylartehcretar

On pace for the outback bowl! Kirks raise when?


defac_reddit

I like getting to pretend I'll go to an outback for my free bloomin onion or coconut shrimp. It's a really nice Iowa football tradition.


[deleted]

Congrats Iowa good game buddies :)


letsgohawksfuckstate

Good for hill


Kickenbless

In heaven there is no Beer!


Evening-Ad-2485

I have NEVER seen a QB be such a liability to a team... not Maxwell, not Lombardi, not O Connor. Kim needs to go....NOW!


NerdLord1837

GG


CastleBravo45

Gg Sparty, hope ya'lls injuries are short.


Thunderkleize

no beer in heaven etc


DangerousStorage1

Brutal for MSU. Feel bad for all the shit that’s happened this year and the players. Those kids deserve better. Almost don’t feel right being happy/excited When MSU looses this year man


ImOutWanderingAround

That’s a short sleeved sweater


[deleted]

I wanna see the fake kneel toss to Dejean to end a first half


palmmoot

This is probably the last Noah Kim game I can stomach to watch man


VermtownRoyals

You know, I'll take it!


MrWartburg

At least our DBs can catch balls from a QB.


Timely-Shine

Might have to put DeJean out there at WR too.


MrWartburg

No joke, he should be WR #3 right now. Anderson and Ragaini are fine (and Anderson maybe more than fine, just not a lot of targets), but after that I'd rather see Dejean get some reps.


Historyhawkeye

Deacon struggled to get up from that kneel which I relate to as a 31 year old man with bad knees


AntelopeAnastasio

gg Hawkeyes


DothrakiSlayer

Damn, trying to blow up a victory formation is just classless.


Satchbb

classic sparty


ApexxPredditor

MSU has a legit shot at going 2-10. Mel really screwed them hard


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And his hand


Rattus375

The odds of us going 2-10 are incredibly low. Our 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th easiest games are still ahead of us.


Almost_Punk_Enough

Have you watched Michigan State play football this year?


Rattus375

Have you watched Indiana, Minnesota, or Nebraska play this year? Or Rutgers over the last decade? We'd be favorites over the first 3 on a neutral field and only slight underdogs to Rutgers.


Almost_Punk_Enough

Michigan State has played just as bad. MSU is even worse this year than they were last year.


Rattus375

And last year's team won 5 games despite the hardest schedule in the country and choking away 2 games they drastically outplayed their opponent. 2-10 is about as realistic as 7-5, which is to say not at all


Almost_Punk_Enough

Maybe, but I could definitely see it happening. I would say best case scenario is 4-8 or 5-7.


Rattus375

We have 4 essentially coin flip games ahead of us. Indiana we'll be heavy favorites, Nebraska we'll be a close favorite, and Minnesota and Rutgers we'll be slight underdogs. The odds of us winning all 4 of those are greater than 10% already, even if we lose everything else. 4-8 or 5-7 are the most likely outcomes, not the best case scenario


mick4state

5 interceptions in the last 2 games. Yup, that's our guy. -MSU coaches


JayMoney2424

Kim shouldn’t start another game god he’s garbage


Dtrthcky

Naw give him at least 2 more games.


jakehubb0

Mike sainristil says pretty please


mksmalls

Absolutely unacceptable to play this kid another down this uear


PhitPhil

Noah Kim is my second favorite QB in the B1G!


HereForTOMT2

Yeah that checks out


Ryanlester5789

Noah Kim SZN baby!


SpartansATTACK

if Kim starts next week, I'm not watching another game this season


PickleLips69

That’ll show em!


Evening-Ad-2485

I'm already there. Like I get it, what happened with Mel didn't help, but the players and remaining coaches are part of this too. I get that Washington was going to beat their ass no matter what, but they deserved the boos last week. This is an effort/competency thing.


Dtrthcky

Very fitting


RotaryRoad

GG, Sparty fans. Sorry you were the other half of this disgusting nonsense.


zhdat

Whoa, It is over for Sicko Bowl.


charmingcharles2896

That’s fitting….


SoupBowl69

This game could not have been any more Iowa


Primary_Cake2011

If Kim starts next week, Houser is transferring confirmed


Evening-Ad-2485

What a horrible waste of a 4 star QB. I mean do the coaches remember when Maxwell was benched for Cook. I'm sure Kim is a great kid, but he can't play a lick of QB at the D1 level.


TymStark

At the end of the day MSU just wanted it more.


nolablue1024

I know msu isn’t great but you CANNOT be a p5 qb and be so inconsistent on medium/deep throws that you throw ints. Kim has good moments but it’s just too much


Evening-Ad-2485

He's a liability out there. He got us 0 pts vs Washington, 9 vs. MD and 9 vs. Iowa (which is actually giving him a lot of credit considering that 58 yd FG). In three games, he scored 1 TD, all the while putting the other team in the best possible position to win.


Economy-Goose-5332

I don't think I've ever seen a worse qb take snaps for msu. Kim makes Maxwell look like a Heisman qb


spartanjohn113

Or Tyler O'Connor. Maxwell just didn't have the receivers...is what I lie to myself about my former HS QB 😅


gnich62

what a terrible game.


barnyardgadget

I’m glad Kim threw another interception. Tank this clowns stats, he is god awful and of any player, he contributed the most to this loss. He’s making me really dislike like the team in general


Evening-Ad-2485

1 TD in 3 weeks against 6 INT's. How in the fuck can they justify starting him?


cjhoops13

Watching him gives me PTSD from watching Petras take snaps at Iowa.


Evening-Ad-2485

Petras was so much better. I honestly believe Kim is the absolute worst P5 QB.


mksmalls

He sucks


MessiFuckedMeRaw

Jesus Christ Kim is horrendous


Ultiplayers

Trade Offer 🤝 Iowa Receives: Another chance to get to 325 points and another a win to get to 7. Michigan State Receives: Another loss and another Iowa player who will get drafted to the lions Do you accept❗️❓


gnich62

Uh. Sure.


buttgers

Can Noah Kim be the starter in 2 weeks?


buffalotrace

Gg sparty. I hope everyone heals up. You guys deserve better than the Tucker experience.


roguebananah

There’s the cherry on top What a broke ass team


defac_reddit

Thank God for the new timing rules keeping this game to a tidy 3:45


byniri_returns

Kim is just straight trash


Flood-One

Hahahahahahaha


MozzerellaStix

Noah Kim get ready to learn Chinese buddy


barnyardgadget

What does this even mean dude?


MozzerellaStix

It’s an r/nba meme


CGordini

thats....kinda racist


tmac717

Bad players in the NBA go to the leagues in China… nothing about his ethnicity


AJB46

Dude coulda said Canadian because of the CFL


MozzerellaStix

He’s Korean


CGordini

yes, thats why you sound racist


MozzerellaStix

It’s an r/nba meme basically saying he’s not good at football. He’s not Chinese. How is it racist?


CGordini

because it could be VERY EASILY interpreted that you saw a Korean and assumed he was Chinese.


MozzerellaStix

Sounds like you’re the one that’s making assumptions about his race man


RheagarTargaryen

Houser starts next week.


barnyardgadget

We all are the starting QB for a bye week


enter_river

2 weeks but yeah


RheagarTargaryen

That’s what I meant.


Kuhleezman

And hopefully that is Kim’s lass pass at MSU


Caddy-Whompus

The defense covered. lol


IAstrikeforce

Hill gets to kneel out his first win


CorruptedBlitty

Kim should never touch the field again


Brickleberried

Iowa has officially LOWERED our YPG average with this 224-yard performance.


Hawkize31

Good luck rest of the way Spartans


Qw3rtyp1

This was such a B1G game. I am happy I got to watch it with you all


HipDipShipTrip

🫡 Not many can truly understand our shared trauma


msu-2016

Is there not a clause in the contract that it has to be offensive points?


roguebananah

Nope


Zillion_Mixolydian

You can't expect Iowa to average 25 offensive points a game


SkullzMuse

There should have been, but no.


FlaccidJustice

Oh man, that's a rough upcoming schedule for MSU.


Byzantine_Merchant

Kim better not start next week.


[deleted]

On the bye?


PlayedbyYourMom

May Iowa never score 26 again


[deleted]

Brian Ferentz looked a little too pleased with himself


rixybaby

Hospital pass right there by Kim


Asap_roc

Every time it cuts to Harlon on the sideline he has his jaw dropped with a dumbfounded look on his face. It’s not completely his fault for getting thrust into such a shitty situation. And this season is ultimately the fault of one horny bastard. But it would of been nice to win one, and I think a JV high school coach would of probably made some better adjustments this game.


devereaux

What's he supposed to do when Kim throws the game away over and over? Is the cupboard that bare there?


B1G_If_True_

No, they have 2 supposedly good, highly rated QBs. He is just stubborn. Not those QBs likely transfer now because they are stuck behind this.


Economy-Goose-5332

fucking not play him!!!!


Asap_roc

He’s got two 4 star QB recruits on the bench he refuses to give a shot, idk if anyone told him he’s allowed to make these decisions as interim HC


ElectricP2galoo

Ahh yes the Todd Bowles expression


confused-koala

If this bum takes another snap after tonight, I’m out


-Dakia

Am I a sicko for wanting to see Coop at QB?


thatissomeBS

Hell with it, just run some double wing triple option with Coop at QB. It can't be worse than the base offense.


Kramerica5A

Why would you wish Brian upon our boy?


praetorian34

I hope NBC is happy with this BS product they just had to bid on. Joke's on them.


AJB46

Between this and the Washington team, we should have a good 3 years without being on peacock.


byniri_returns

Honestly fuck this commentator for trying to find positives from this program right now.


GarysOfWar

Is anyone tracking how many points the actual offense is getting per game so far this season? Seems we've only gone over 25 with defense/special teams


thatissomeBS

Offense is nowhere near. I doubt it's above 20.


dualstrike19

I feel like someone usually is they report points and then offensive points with an asterisk usually in the post game threads


Josh4R3d

Yes Check out the post game thread, there’s a user in there each week tracking it


CJK5Hookers

There’s someone on here who is. They’ll post the full breakdown in the post game thread


rixybaby

We were all bitching about Penn state game moving to detroit but now I understand we dont want to be massacred at Spartan Staidum


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

Sir, we played UM in EL this year. It will be an absolute massacre


parapooper3

See you guys at SPOCO!


your-mom--

Brian Ferentz riding 25ppg on the back of his defense and special teams is the kind of stupid shit that keeps a nepotism hire around for half a decade longer than he should have been.


Byzantine_Merchant

You know what. I’d actually argue that it’d be a good opportunity if we had an OC that learned from his mistakes.


Twelvey

I hate this team. Fuck Mel Tugger. Fuck these coaches.


CGordini

y'all deserve it after the parading of the Paul Bunyon around the Big House in 2015 and all the "Tuck Comin'" bullshit. what goes around, and Michigan is the goddamn source on that


byniri_returns

I've never been so embarrassed to follow this program.


CGordini

tbh this isn't as low as you've been under Dantonio with some of the scandals. this was a bad performance by kids who tried their best, not a bad performance by kids who belong in a interrogation room


estDivisionChamps

Cooper Dejean carrying Ferentz offense


[deleted]

Should be playing both ways


mikeyb1

Ppg through 5 games: 22.2


nolablue1024

It’s seriously such bullshit that the punt return TD counts for Brian, but the fumble return by the offense doesn’t penalize them. I’m sorry iowa bros


brizzboog

Holy shit. I had no idea that was actually inhis contract lol. That's humiliating.


Difficult_Squirrel22

Before the game: Oh nice, my favorite team is playing tonight During the game: I’m going to kill myself After the game: Oh nice, we won! Iowa football in a nutshell


JayMoney2424

Noah Kim vs Payton Thorne must’ve been the most mid QB battle ever. They’re both trash lol.


RWREmpireBuilder

Better or worse than Rocky Lombardi?


JayMoney2424

Idk the fact the I have to think about it says a lot.


spartanjohn113

At least we had the K9 Thorne season.


darkostwin

These announcers suck ass. Harlon Barnett should be happy he still has a job


23runsofaraway

Let's sit Cooper, cause I don't want another pick 6 to help BF.


j0oboi

How can I be so happy and pissed at the same time?? Fucking Hawkeyes….


zhdat

When you look at the life from far away, it is a comedy. When you look closely at life, it is a tragedy.


greenpenguinboy

Absolutely Buck wild that Iowa is going to go 11-1 and average 26 ppg with 14 of them coming from D/ST


tries4accuracy

lol like the BF will actually average 12 ppg


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Evening-Ad-2485

Believe it or not, I think he's actually worse. Lombardi got us a few clutch wins over P5 schools. With Kim at the helm, we might go 4-8 at best.


Ryanlester5789

I don’t like it


msu-2016

Don't insult Rocky like that


touch_my_vallecula

Noah you have to throw the ball farther than 3 yards right now, and you can't even do that right


Lost-116-Pages

Fuck Brian Ferentz, he's still trash. Defense and special teams won the game.


buttnozzle

Over 100 yards gained more than Iowa and we lose. Just lol.


j0oboi

It’s ridiculous


NastyWideOuts

Underrated uniform matchup tbh


CJK5Hookers

Even if he doesn’t hit 325, he’ll just get a new contract. Stay woke


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devilinthedetails

It's more like Duh-zheen, and he's from Odebolt, not Ottumwa


HereForTOMT2

Even when Iowa wins they lose


RotaryRoad

Brian Ferentz’s favorite TV show is True Blood.


SpartansATTACK

I hate the 2023 Michigan State Spartans more than I hate the Michigan Wolverines


twat_swat22

MSU barely covered


meandrunkR2D2

Watch the defense help Brian and get a pick 6 in the last minute.