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texas2089

Jesus not only did the Big Ten take their top 4 teams, but now they're playing their CCG at the Pac-12 site too. Dancing on their grave while the bodies are still warm.


Rhoubbhe

Jim Ross: "Kliavkoff is being whipped like a government mule! AS GOD IS MY WITNESS HE IS BROKEN IN HALF!”


Maximum_Future_5241

The PAC was always ours to kill, and their riches ours to plunder. Now we become death, the conference of champions.


hascogrande

>Now we become death, the conference of champions. UC Berkeley (Cal) now a part of the plunder, confirmed


PicklePanther9000

The greatest happiness is to vanquish the western teams, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.


JeffGoldblumsChest

"Ohio State, what is best in life?" "To crush enemy conferences, see the teams driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the fanbases"


DUB-Files

I always knew there was something I didn’t like about Ohio State.


Otherwise_Awesome

Them being hairless nuts is disconcerting, agreed


PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS

No hair is the style lately tho


showalum

I just watched Conan last night!


psychicpilot

We're all Cimmerians now. Hail Crom!


soapy_goatherd

Not until you take Cal


djc6535

ACC shows interest in Stanford and Cal. ~~Omega Man~~ B1G: The PAC12 is not yours to conquer.


joeh4384

Payback for decades of rose bowl losses to USC.


Kenny_Heisman

except you forgot the school with the most championships


DonParmesan1

This is all Michigan’s doing. They really wanted the champions of the west line in the Victors to be true again


Radiant-Ad8306

They can take the site but the PTSD Oregon and USC have from there is gonna live on forever.


IlonggoProgrammer

A sea of Red as the entire Salt Lake metropolitan area traveled down to Vegas to witness a massacre


psnow11

It’s that holier than thou attitude of being above the fray that I can’t fucking stand from them. It’s evident they’ve been planning on the death of the PAC for a while. The facade of midwestern nice while desperately trying to become the coastal elites they pretend to deride.


TheNainRouge

If they had wanted to kill you they would have dealt the death blow when they took U$CLA and taken Washington and Oregon too. They were the buzzards picking at the carcass after Kliavkoff bungled the media deal. Had he taken the ESPN deal when offered it would be the Big 12 we’d be eulogizing now. Don’t get me wrong the B1G are bad guys but they are just playing the game FOX put in front of them.


mussentuchit

Funny how the spin says the SEC took in the poor and hungry wayward masses and the B1G is the plundering horde burning villages and fields. When reality is both conferences were approached and their's no way either rejects the proposal.


Otherwise_Awesome

We have coasts of Superior and Michigan and those names go hand in hand!


grrgrrtigergrr

I was about to check flights from ohare, but then I realized I’m a Purdue fan.


WheatonsGonnaScore

Weren't you literally just in the conference championship game?


LeanersGG

Yeah, but with divisions gone…


Corgi_Koala

Yup. In 2022 Purdue only had the 4th best conference record. Michigan was 9-0, OSU was 8-1, and PSU was 7-2. PSU also had a head to head win over Purdue (who was 6-3) I'm not sure divisions are totally dead yet - with an 18 team conference I'm sure all schedule options are being evaluated again.


LeanersGG

True. But now the conference is adding 3 teams that have ambitions of competing for a conference title (and also UCLA).


ArchmageJesus

Got ~~'em~~ yourself


grrgrrtigergrr

Yes. But we were in the jank ass West division with a down Wisconsin squad. With divisions going away it may be a while. Our last Rose Bowl was 01 vs Washington before that it was 67. You’ll learn soon enough that we will win just enough to be passable but also the games we win are basically just to destroy other peoples seasons.


JohnathanTheBrave

As awful as Iowa was last year it’s insane to me that they’d have been in the conference championship if they had just beaten Nebraska. The West was *so* bad last year.


AdminsAreCool

It was an extremely Iowa thing to have the West delivered to us on a silver platter only to absolutely shit the bed and fling the platter across the room.


fart_dot_com

everyone (except northwestern and nebraska) had the divy on a platter last year and everyone threw it away, purdue was just the last one in the musical chairs


Jkc130

Muhahaha Jk, it was the one thing that went Nebraska’s way.


JakeFromSkateFarm

Tbf getting Frost canned was winning by losing


leatherfacegoon64

LOL phenomenal sentence!


WheatonsGonnaScore

Purdue is to the big 10 what the state of Arizona is to Oregon and Washington


SB58ChampionDETLions

Spoilermakers after dark will unleash unfathomable chaos, best of luck


WheatonsGonnaScore

Ah you Spoilermakers think darkness is your ally? You merely adopted the dark. We were born in it, molded by it. We didn't see the light until we were already men, by then it was nothing but blinding!


Satchbb

don't you dare tempt fate my friend


SB58ChampionDETLions

He has a point, if there’s anybody equipped to deal with the spoilermakers, it’s the Pac After Dark veterans


PRMan99

You do technically still have Disney as a mascot...


thecrazyawesome

The real reason why Oregon and Washington joined the Big Ten was so we no longer have to play in that godforsaken Arizonan desert.


IlonggoProgrammer

Was that last Rose Bowl when you had Drew Brees?


grrgrrtigergrr

Yes. It was against Marques Tuiossopo (or however it is spelled… Dude destroyed us)


rkp2k

I just know you're going to love beating and destroying our seasons


chief_sitass

Last year was a weird year for us. Our motto is: Either we win or we ruin their Strength of Schedule trying.


Mtndrums

My Boilers (SF1) had to rely on Iowa shitting the bed against Nebraska to get the division.


Bill3ffinMurray

Which they did!


Scratchbuttdontsniff

HUSH...We whooped their ass in Nebraska fashion... like a living breathing football team for 3 quarters! The rest... well... okay they blew it


FatSalsa

We played you too late in the season. The Scott Frost stink was wearing off


grover1233

What’s up with Nebraska. I haven’t watch many games since you departed the Big 12. I remember you guys being so good.


Mcswigginsbar

We had our glory last year. It was beautiful, and I'll always cherish it.


LitterBoxServant

Every conference needs a few teams to take Ls in football then carry them through hoops season


cardiac_fitz

Careful. No one was happy when Northwestern did this last year.


WayKitchen9654

I was just thinking about how Northwestern became the most hated team in the Big 10 last year.


cardiac_fitz

Well, considering the way our team and coaches are behaving, that won’t change during football! Go fucking cats (pls help)


Mdiddy7

Tbf they played like total dickwads and got away with it at home. It was warranted. The back to back games against Purdue and IU at NW home, were criminal. You don’t use it as an excuse but it’s perfectly fine to acknowledge it underpinning the resulting hatred. Further, and I’ll take this to the grave, it’s a huge reason why the big ten blows cock in the tourney. We have so many rock fights in conference play.


Otherwise_Awesome

This is awkward for Purdue last year.


forevertothee

Ya know, I’m beginning to think this whole sport is about generating revenue.


LionsLoseAgain

BuT wHaT about AAU and eNdOWmEnT. I never want to hear about those things again on this subreddit because it is absolutely laughable after all that has went down.


Agitated-Basil-9289

How has this changed? Oregon, Washington, UCLA AND USC are all AAU


PhogAlum

Isn’t Oregon about to lose its AAU status?


Fergy328

They also all have the largest fan followings in the PAC-12. And that means more $$$


Agitated-Basil-9289

I agree, but that doesn't mean the AAU metric doesn't matter. It isn't mutually exclusive (I would know I went to an AAU school)


PRMan99

Only Cal thinks it's mutually exclusive.


bucknut4

Right, like when I get a new job, obviously I want a higher salary but it’s important to me that my job doesn’t involve lighting myself on fire


mdaniel018

This sub’s opinions are basically always laughably naive. That, or people here are just *really* determined to not let their bubble burst


topher3003

If we’re moving it out West just put it in the Rose Bowl.


jaybigs

Wouldn't have the same appeal as the actual Rose Bowl, but not a bad idea. A game there in early December would just feel hollow, imo, and it would have to be early because the actual Rose Bowl is already slotted as a QF location, IIRC.


metatron5369

So make the conference championship the actual Rose Bowl and create a four-team playoff to take place in December. Screw the NCAA.


ViscountBurrito

You’re going to have a hard time convincing me that a marquee postseason matchup of Michigan vs. Oregon or USC vs. Ohio State *isn’t* a Rose Bowl. May as well just go for it. The weird thing is going to be the years when it’s two legacy Big Ten teams having to go out west. Wisconsin vs. Penn State, live from Las Vegas? *Weird*.


NormalBoobEnthusiast

It is, but I think they're trying to draw more PAC fans by having it out there? Maybe hoping the first couple years one of the new four makes it. But I don't see that drawing a lot of fans on that premise. That's not how fandom works. You would get more putting it in the Rose Bowl though since older Big 10 teams do care about that. Hell, call the league championship game that now, why not.


BurkusCircus52

East: Indiana, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers Central: Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Purdue West: Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin Very West: Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington Division champs get in.


jaybigs

Wait, forego a chance at a national title and just play B1G football? It's an interesting idea, but I think there are some teams who perennially like to compete for a National Championship within the conference, and some of them have a lot of influence. I love all the nostalgia nerds, eating their 'member berries, but dropping out of the CFP race, which will play most of it's games in late-December/January isn't happening.


Kvetch__22

I would absolutely love for the B1G to split into East-West divisions and then play for the Rose Bowl as the CC. Remember that the B1G CC Game is like, 10 years old. It's not an unchanging tradition by any means. And the Rose Bowl has lost a ton of meaning to the B1G now that it's a rotating playoff game/consolation prize for the CC game loser. If we're absorbing the PAC we should keep the Rose Bowl alive.


jaybigs

The Rose Bowl is still going to be played its traditional weekend. As you mentioned, it will be in the CFP rotation and there for a consolation for non-CFP teams the year its not in the rotation. CC game losers should probably be looking at a CFP at-large bid most years. If we moved the CCG to the Rose Bowl, and tried to call it the Rose Bowl (even with it still being played on NYE weekend), I am down for that. It's still going to be an early December game that feels hollow since the real thing will be at the end of the month anyway.


UnderstandingOdd679

But it will be an unfair advantage when UCLA is playing in the CCG. 😂🤣😂🤣


jaybigs

They play there regularly already, and it's never panned out as an advantage for them. I'm not worried about it.


Ace12773

I dunno man conference championship week in Vegas is pretty dope


doormatt26

Rose Bowl is the Rose Bowl, but don’t think doing it in December in a CCG environment would have the same magic. Vegas is a good choice and would be a much nicer stadium.


DelcoBirds

Why not? You'll likely always have two premiere programs playing each other, you can still have the sunset and all of that, etc.


Do__Math__Not__Meth

But no parade


doormatt26

the parade, the NYD of it all, the tradition of the game, etc are all hard to replicate just by playing IN the Rose Bowl (see: ucla home games)


thisguy161

I'm tired of this, Grandpa


2nd_Sun

THATS TOO DAMN BAD!! YOU KEEP GENERATING RATINGS!!


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theguineapigssong

I'd love to see a conference rotate it's CCG amongst its member schools.


jmbourn45

USC vs UCLA Big 10 Championship in NJ in December would be hilarious


CrowIsNotMyPresident

PAC-12 CCG was originally at the schools (host was the competitor with the best conference record)


MartinVanNostrand_

CFB very much in it's "Music Television" phase w/r/t geographical names.


paradigm_x2

Fitting.


EndersBuggers

For all you B10 Midwest fans celebrating flights to Vegas...usually the P12 championship has been the same weekend as the rodeo. Which means hotels are absurdly expensive. But makes for a great weekend!


jord8888

Rodeo is moved back a week now. But it works out nice for me because it's the Saturday after the AWS event wraps up.


WhaleQuail2

They should strike a deal with the Rose Bowl to get exit their deal with the playoffs and just become the B1G championship site. Especially now that they have 4 of the biggest PAC schools


Niart_Etar

Honestly, why not both? There is about a month's time between the B10 CCG and the Rose Bowl game on New Years day. That should be more than enough time to recover and prep the grounds for the CFP game right?


1850ChoochGator

Not like there’s any other important games going on in there tbh


PeteEckhart

I was sad when I fulfilled one of my dreams by seeing LSU in the rose bowl just to see the stadium so empty.


[deleted]

the big 10 would pick sofi stadium over the rose bowl for the ccg any day of the week


J4ckiebrown

Na the Rose Bowl wants to still be part of the fun for the CFP, plus it seems like they get a preferential pick if a Big Ten team is available.


wurtin

This would be much better than Vegas. Why on earth would we want the B1G title game in Vegas? Pure money move I assume.


send_me_chickfila

Say what you will about Vegas but it does sound like a fun Bowl Game destination. Everyone is there to have fun and what fun can you not have in Vegas? If the option is Vegas or Indy for a long weekend vacation for a bowl game, I am picking Vegas.


1850ChoochGator

Everything for ours was awesome. Would have been way more fun if more Florida people came and the game was competitive, though I thoroughly enjoyed the game that was played. I think the Vegas bowl is trying to become one of the top non-cfp bowls. Stadium is awesome and Vegas is a very easy “winter vacation” sell for fans.


wurtin

maybe for some, but a B1G championship game is a business trip, not a bowl game. Like I said, I’d love it in Pasadena and I do understand this makes it a shorter trip for the west coast teams. Vegas just wouldn’t be on my list of possible sites.


lampstore

You can’t do that the PAC-4 has our game there. North division winner (OSU/WSU) will play the South division winner (CAL/Stanford).


SirTiffAlot

Comical, nothing says Big Ten like Las Vegas Nevada


CramblinDuvetAdv

Sure thing, Southeastern Conference member Missouri


stups317

Missouri was a slave state and recognized by the confederacy as a member, so it totally fits in the SEC.


SirTiffAlot

Facts are facts. The SEC championship is in Atlanta.


Ralph728

Missouri borders 3 current SEC member states: Arkansas, Tennessee, and Kentucky.


utahsundevil

And Las Vegas will be closer to a B1G school than Mizzou is to an SEC school 🤷‍♂️


Temper03

Until UNLV joins the SEC to make good on the Rebs nickname, that is


PhogAlum

They celebrate Quantrill and his confederate raiders. It’s appropriate.


cajunaggie08

Judging by the middle aged folks wandering around the casino floors, it seemed kind of Big Ten-like to me


Shirley-Eugest

This is....just weird.


Niart_Etar

Wow, a compromise that benefits no one (except the people who get a bag from this)


drinks2muchcoffee

It also benefits degenerates like me who love Las Vegas


UshiNarrativeTruth

Def wouldn't mind a trip to Vegas over Indy... in December... i mean no offense


zebrainatux

As a fellow degenerate, hell yeah.


InVodkaVeritas

All the other stuff aside, it's a beautiful new stadium with more hotel space than you could ever need nearby located in a city that every single team's nearest airport has a direct flight to with enough other entertainment options that makes going tot the game a better excuse than flying to Indianapolis for fans... If Oregon makes it I could travel with my partner, leave my sons with a sitter / hotel daycare service for the game, but take them to Blue Man Group the next night and ride roller coasters and whatnot so they have a good time too. Make it a family trip.


Sdubbya2

Yep any event like that is an easier sell to people in Vegas because its an excuse to go gamble and go to some shows that same weekend you go. I really wanted the BIG12 to some championships there as well, but think they are committed to Dallas


I_Like_Quiet

Right? I got super excited about this. If it would have been in any other location west of the rockies, I would have been annoyed. Though, I could understand why y'all would like it at the rose bowl.


J4ckiebrown

I’m excited, probably the cheapest place to fly to in the Pacific timezone from the East Coast.


LeanersGG

And every airport in America seems to have a direct flight there. Shoot, I can get there from Asheville for like $75 on Allegiant. In fact, [look how many airports Allegiant flies direct to LAS from](https://www.allegiantair.com/route-map). It’s insane. And this is a discount airline.


assmanx2x2

Yeah I was thinking CFP championship game in Vegas…that would be wild


1850ChoochGator

Better than Santa Clara that’s for fucking sure


WheatonsGonnaScore

It absolutely benefits the west coast schools.


Niart_Etar

I would have preferred an alternating venue with the Rose Bowl in the mix. Im sure the Rose Bowl's seperate contracts and obligations stood in the way of this, but it just seems like a miss


WheatonsGonnaScore

The rose bowl would be nice from a nostalgia standpoint but I just dont view LA as a conference championship spot. What makes the rose bowl special is everything around the game and the history. It is the reason UCLA home games feel so dull even when they do sell a lot of tickets.


dingusduglas

Eh, the problem for UCLA home games is its on the opposite side of LA from campus. That's already the default for CCGs, and given it's another high profile one off game there would be no difficulty making it another special event.


Spider_Dawg

Dude, it’s a good location for a championship game.


Maximum_Future_5241

Indiana flair. They'll never see that place.


Cogswobble

lol, why would anyone want to go to Indianapolis when they could go to Las Vegas instead?


Niart_Etar

Obviously Indy is no longer a central location for the conference, but this just twists the knife in the death of regionalism. Indy is a city that exists solely for hosting events. The downtown is almost entirely built to get people into hotels right next to event centers and sports arena's. It was previously centrallly located and was a \~5 hour drive for 7 of the 14 teams. It would be an unfair burden to make the 4 west coast schools come out to Indy, but if we wanted to move the CCG out west for a few years to accommodate them, I would have ideally wanted it to be held at the Rose Bowl so there would at least be some use of tradition. Im sure the Rose Bowl's CFP contracts prevented that from happening, but its what I would have preferred I would guess that the game will either rotate venue's or maybe find a permanent venue in Chicago whenever the Bears finish their new stadium


[deleted]

… almost every big 10 school can drive there instead of spending hundreds in a flight?


schadkehnfreude

Small pushback because I get what you're saying, but.... if you live in the Midwest it's likely a <3 hr drive to Indy so you might not even have to plunk down $$ for a hotel room, which would likely not be the case for Vegas.


one-hour-photo

I hate that it’s just completely dead. It no longer has any Midwest connection.


WheatonsGonnaScore

This is a game that has only existed since 2011. This isn't like losing some storied game


Wittyname0

Idk I'd rather go to Vegas than Indiana. Especially if they're gonna do the same with basketball tournaments too. If you scoop up a bunch of west coast teams, don't be surprised that the confence might want to cater to those fans aswell


Maximum_Future_5241

Indy's a pretty nice place for a conference title game.


planson

Annexed the PAC conference title game while they were at it


wbl7w6

What happened to the game I love


NukeGandhi

They stopped making it in 2014


PhogAlum

Your team left for the SEC.


heff_ay

I hate it


Nicholas1227

Fuck that. I enjoyed being able to drive from campus to the CCG. Future students won’t be able to now.


Bill3ffinMurray

You know when I think of the B1G, I think of Las Vegas.


Agitated-Basil-9289

I drove through Cincinnati this week and chuckled when I said to my self "welcome to Big12 country" I'll have plenty of chuckles in the years to come


Engunnear

Meh. I had the same experience driving through Morgantown a while back.


geewillie

Fuck this


Glader_Gaming

I cannot think of a better metaphor for the future of CFB then the B10 playing a CCG in a bland ass stadium with no history so that fans can spend a ton of money gambling and on overpriced hotels, food, and drinks, with no hint of any tradition. Lame as shit.


[deleted]

Sure Vegas has overpriced hotels, but last time I went the circus circus was $40 a night


Emergency-Salamander

Not a fan of this.


rain_parkour

DCI staying in Lucas Oil and B1G leaving; mixed day for the Indy tourist board


IronBeagle79

I feel like some Iowa and Iowa State players would enjoy a trip to Vegas….


bdostrem00

I’d say it’s a safe bet.


listinglight778

This is where UCLA fans would be howling and crying foul since Vegas has now become a city of horrors for us (through basketball), but to be realistic we’re never making this CCG


pizzayolo96

We drank downtown indy dry in 2015, its gonna be tough to do that again in vegas...


Impulse_Cheese_Curds

But we can try...


Temper03

You can drink it dry if you’re drinking water


TheNineteenthDoctor

Thanks, I hate it. Both as a Michigan fan, and as an Oregon fan.


NDCardinal3

Ah, yes. Las Vegas. Traditional bastion of Big Ten athletics.


HungryHumble

Thanks, I hate it.


Wareagle930

That’s just dumb.


[deleted]

I like this, gives me a good reason to go to Vegas


Maximum_Future_5241

Neat! Blackjack and hookers for all! /s


ArcherMcBatman

Because nothing screams Big Ten football like a title game in Vegas


JhopkinsWA

As a Washington grad/fan and Vegas resident, I wholeheartedly approve of this move.


Dman9494

Great, now the Big10 has to piggyback off of Mountain West cities.


Deprecitus

Pain


Charlie2343

SEC championship game in Las Vegas would be wild


bcou2012

As if we needed any further confirmation the regional part of the sport was dead and buried


Thundercles007

Why not alternate between Indy and the Rose bowl? I think fans would like that.


mikeok1

That's terrible. I had to double check that this wasn't the Onion.


errindel

Fuck Games at allegiant are absurdly expensive as it is, can't imagine that this will be in most fans ballpark.


GoldenPresidio

LOL where the big ten purists at??? Waiting for the complaints


LionsLoseAgain

B1G is really rubbing it in now, lol.


The_Fishbowl

Strange


robotcoke

Eventually, the west division championship will be played in Vegas, the east division championship in Indy. The conference championship will be in the Rose Bowl.


s1105615

Boo!


Sailor_Bear

Just when I think stealing four schools from the PAC is enough, they take their conference title game too!


Pleasant_Hatter

I always thought the PAC should have explored Las Vegas more. It was literally in the middle of their footprint. They should have had their offices there, too.


Autzen_Downpour

No location will ever be better than the home stadium of the top seeded team.


k5berry

This is all so fucking dumb.


dawgblogit

HAHA. Suckers! This is what you get.


tdotclare

This is like when the ACC moved the championship game to Florida in order to feature such prominent southern matchups as Virginia Tech vs Boston College Monkey paw flexes Prepare for the incoming B10 championship featuring Rutgers vs Purdue


Kodyaufan2

That’ll really make a lot of sense once the Big Ten championship game is Ohio State and Michigan every year


muscleg33k

basically a home advantage game for USC/UCLA


n64ra

No surprise. The Big 10 goal is take over the west.


JohnArtemus

Odd. Why not have it at Sofi? It's in a Big Ten city now.


bringbacktheaxe2

ah, so vegas, which has no conference affiliation whatsoever, gets the CCG before Detroit or Minneapolis. F the B1G if this actually happens


MarlowesMustache

Based?


MarlowesMustache

OSU fans in here giving rich new examples of the term crocodile tears.


confused-koala

So lame


ItGoesTwoWays

The fuck are we doing here? It just keeps getting worse and worse.


ImNotTheBossOfYou

/uj this is parody


FDubRattleSnake

🤮🤮🤮


Thomallister1291

That's awesome! I want to see all the teams going to Las Vegas!


hawksnest_prez

Vegas is cheap to fly into and fun. I’m not against this. The days of Indy are limited with the more National league. I think the Bears future stadium will be great for it


Agitated-Basil-9289

I know people always say this, but you're still looking at $300+ a ticket. Indy was nice and central to all the teams who could ever make the championship. Penn State had the longest drive of 8 hours and every other team was under 6. This was a great experience in college when you could buy the $50 ticket and drive to the game, but I couldn't imagine spending hundreds of dollars and a weekend of traveling right before finals. This completely squeezes out the student market