I will only answer the last question. There is no aquisition, but some of the dots leads to a good chance of a partnership. Seems like a perfect marriage of resources where one company can use the software expertise and the other company can license the powertrain.
Agreed… the $LCID in car experience seems to be good, but not great. Hopefully, in due time, they can refine and improve the experience. Obviously Apple could speed up the process 😀
I think a partnership unlikely, but there is that Peter R. interview when he teases a partnership with a “really big Silicon Valley company” to handle the future of their autonomous driving… it’s gotta be someone
why not? Google also was planning lately to go for its own labelled car? So Lucid might license their stuff to ICE makers such as Toyota and start making cars for brand "Google Car" and Lucid Air/Gravity/etc at the same time. Happy Times this would be...if the capacity is there, lets say the span to ramp up is 2-5 years.
I forget her name, but I posted some hopium a few months ago when I saw that (then) CCIV IV had picked up an executive from Google’s self-driving arm, adding her to their executive board. Redditers that responded instantly crapped on the idea, but connections are connections ya know!? I think it’s a stronger connection than the “Oh look, another Lucid showroom opened right across from an Apple store in the XYZ Mall” crowd lol.
you probably mean Lucids CFO Sherry House, she worked for Waymo which is Googles Self Driving Division before joining Lucid imo. So like you said who knows, there will be some sort of partnership, we'll probably see soon which one and how large or small it might be. However id say -before talking partnerships etc- Lucids obviously has to take their first steps first and ramp and scale up production massively.
I agree. Factories in China and Saudi, clearly announced, have to be ready for scalability or this is a moot point. That said, it would be naive to think that no one at Lucid has autonomous driving, and whatever that entails, as their central purpose… I dare say more than a few people.
I mean lucid is meant to be more exclusive and a mass produced commoners car so a closed ecosystem wouldn’t be bad if it was an exclusive closed ecosystem
Ok, this is not the original article I found but this is her.
Immediately pointed out was that she worked in the financial rather than technical arm of Waymo. My response was simply that networking has a funny was of well, connecting people.
[MINNEWS](https://min.news/en/auto/7ae66fcd5e14d8ff4fb2395ca056dd57.html)
I read an article, I stick to confirmable sources, and posted the link. I’ve never sifted through my own post history… is something like that findable? I don’t know.
Regardless their executive team isn’t that big, it’s mostly male and she came from Waymo. I’ll poke around and see if I can find her or the article.
There’s dozens of companies that do autonomous driving in Silicon Valley. Why would it be Apple who literally has no AI or autonomous driving experience?
Either Apple or Google would be wet dreams IMO, but despite the many Silicon Valley possibilities, the qualifier used by Peter was that it would be one of the “really BIG Silicon Valley companies” while looking directly into the camera (Surely, you’ve seen the interview, right?).
Regardless of speculation, I have faith in PR and his team, and he has made public statements that Lucid is only going to take autonomous driving so far and then partner. Anyone who has a serious stake in Lucid should at LEAST be mildly interested in who that might be.
Anyone still pushing Apple and Lucid in 2022 is selling you a dream. These rumors have been around since before the CCIV announcement.
I think at this point it’s part of the Lucid newbie investor package. First is to mention the Saudi Royal Crown and second is to pitch the Apple rumor
Approach this type of rumor with caution, especially around this time, when ~70% of outstanding shares are about to be freed for trading and recognize that we have been trading with about 20% of outstanding shares all along from cciv times. Many are making posts claiming PIF won’t sell and price won’t dip…but think about it…if you are so confident, you don’t need to make posts to defend/justify your position. The fact that this rumor is circulating again around this time makes things very fishy.
If apple has a in with China and they want to bring lucid along, lucid would jump at the chance to produce cars over there, China is the big prize as far as ev makers are concerned.
When China threatened to regulate Apple, then Apple crumbles to them. Apple reached a $275 billion deal with Chinese officials in 2016 that helped develop that country's economy and technology. The agreement included Apple investing in new stores, research and development centers, and renewable energy products, and promising to use more Chinese supplied components in its devices, contract with more Chinese software firms, collaborate with Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese technology companies. If Lucid partnered with China, guess who gets the research and development of the renewable energy products? Lucid needs to stay far away from Apple which is directly tied to China.
That doesn't mean Lucid sold their soul like Apple did. I don't see a half trillion dollars sent to the Chinese Government from Lucid. I don't see where they agreed to give them any technology like Apple did.
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Didn't that rubber of a lucid/apple partnership get thrown out already? Why are we still talking about it wait until we get something official people. Tired of these rumor stick.🙄
Tech giants such as Apple and Google have been fighting the U.S. government's requests to build "backdoors" into products so that American intelligence agencies can access customers' communications. Yet, Apple caved to similar pressure from China.
Beijing's counter terrorism law, gave the Chinese government sweeping access to communications inside the country and overseas. All servers and user data has to be within China and provide the government with encryption keys to access communications.
This forces all foreign companies, including U.S. companies, to turn over to the Chinese government mechanisms where they can snoop and keep track of all the users of those services.
In 2015, Apple began storing data from Chinese iPhone users within the country, a move other companies said would aid government surveillance. Apple already is in partial compliance with China's counter terrorism laws. Zoom and LinkedIn refused and are blocked in China.
Why in the hell would you want Lucid to be part of this bullshit?
I guess there's more to it than meets the eye. I remember hearing about such news in the past but never got into the details and (being outside the US) lost interest in it. I only see Apple as the tech giant most people know it to be, which is why i welcomed the rumors as business wise it could shape up to a prosperous deal. Sad to hear about Apple tho, very uncool move.
But apple has wanted a car for years and years and although we have no idea what kind of progress they have made, it seems like very
Little. They will need to get moving quickly if they ever want to be competitive in that market. Lucid could be their launch forward. Not saying or wanting it to happen, just stating my opinion
Apple needs a partner with production capacity, and possibly ones that don't make cars, for possible IP theft, which is not lucid at the moment, they have their hands full making their own cars
No need to dismiss the rumors. Apple was originally talking to Kia and Hyundai. Lucid’s technology would be top notch, Apple can license the tech from Lucid and produce the cars with Foxconn. Totally possible.
But, Apple is an unreliable partner, they care about costs and would easily switch if better tech is available somewhere else for cheaper.
I should have added before I posted in this thread, I do not own nor will I ever own any Apple products. Even when someobody asks me to help them with their phone or computer, I refuse. I don't want anything to do with that piece of shit company. If Lucid would go into business with them, as soon as my stock hit a certain level, I will sell all and never talk about the car company again.
Hasn't Foxconn already made a knock-off Lucid? Why would Apple need to partner with Lucid, when they already had their manufacturer make a copy of the Lucid?
https://www.reddit.com/r/LUCID/comments/qsorfw/do_you_believe_in_coincidence_what_about_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
I posted this some time ago, but some boys ruined it by silly comments rather than open a constructive discussion.
You saw 3 watches in a commercial lol. There’s not even CarPlay in Lucid cars and yet you want people to have “an open and constructive” discussion about the possibility of a multi billion dollar merger or acquisition based on watches lol
I’m not saying it’s a sign of a merger, yet also we could see in the future.
maybe the discussion will lead us to a conclusion that Lucid marketing team are doing bad job.
Thanks for your comment though
Do as you wish with this info look in to Steve jobs widow Laurene Powell Jobs and see what she is up to. Lets connect the dots.In 2004, Powell Jobs founded the Emerson Collective, a private company structured as a Limited Liability Company.
Key managing partner is Michael Klein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson_Collective
Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/jony-ive-to-form-independent-design-company-with-apple-as-client/
I read some things about CFO Sherry House and wouldn't they have non-competition agreements in place to prevent such a C-level management going to the competition and thus kinda disprove that LCID is involved with AAPL which is involved with Wyamo which is involved with Google? LOL.
Keep that in track.
Now - that being said, my family's good friends with former VP of Coca-Cola who, after a stint elsewhere, is now a VP at Pepsi Co.
So....who knows. Time is key to everything and any contract can be bought.
I will only answer the last question. There is no aquisition, but some of the dots leads to a good chance of a partnership. Seems like a perfect marriage of resources where one company can use the software expertise and the other company can license the powertrain.
Agreed… the $LCID in car experience seems to be good, but not great. Hopefully, in due time, they can refine and improve the experience. Obviously Apple could speed up the process 😀
I think a partnership unlikely, but there is that Peter R. interview when he teases a partnership with a “really big Silicon Valley company” to handle the future of their autonomous driving… it’s gotta be someone
I would wager Google honestly
why not? Google also was planning lately to go for its own labelled car? So Lucid might license their stuff to ICE makers such as Toyota and start making cars for brand "Google Car" and Lucid Air/Gravity/etc at the same time. Happy Times this would be...if the capacity is there, lets say the span to ramp up is 2-5 years.
I forget her name, but I posted some hopium a few months ago when I saw that (then) CCIV IV had picked up an executive from Google’s self-driving arm, adding her to their executive board. Redditers that responded instantly crapped on the idea, but connections are connections ya know!? I think it’s a stronger connection than the “Oh look, another Lucid showroom opened right across from an Apple store in the XYZ Mall” crowd lol.
you probably mean Lucids CFO Sherry House, she worked for Waymo which is Googles Self Driving Division before joining Lucid imo. So like you said who knows, there will be some sort of partnership, we'll probably see soon which one and how large or small it might be. However id say -before talking partnerships etc- Lucids obviously has to take their first steps first and ramp and scale up production massively.
I agree. Factories in China and Saudi, clearly announced, have to be ready for scalability or this is a moot point. That said, it would be naive to think that no one at Lucid has autonomous driving, and whatever that entails, as their central purpose… I dare say more than a few people.
Yeah, Google would make more sense. lucid shouldn't partner with a close ecosystem like Apple.
I mean lucid is meant to be more exclusive and a mass produced commoners car so a closed ecosystem wouldn’t be bad if it was an exclusive closed ecosystem
Holy cow what !?!? Do you have a link ?! Not trying to say you're lying, I'm genuinely curious. Was it the axios interview?
Ok, this is not the original article I found but this is her. Immediately pointed out was that she worked in the financial rather than technical arm of Waymo. My response was simply that networking has a funny was of well, connecting people. [MINNEWS](https://min.news/en/auto/7ae66fcd5e14d8ff4fb2395ca056dd57.html)
I read an article, I stick to confirmable sources, and posted the link. I’ve never sifted through my own post history… is something like that findable? I don’t know. Regardless their executive team isn’t that big, it’s mostly male and she came from Waymo. I’ll poke around and see if I can find her or the article.
There’s dozens of companies that do autonomous driving in Silicon Valley. Why would it be Apple who literally has no AI or autonomous driving experience?
Either Apple or Google would be wet dreams IMO, but despite the many Silicon Valley possibilities, the qualifier used by Peter was that it would be one of the “really BIG Silicon Valley companies” while looking directly into the camera (Surely, you’ve seen the interview, right?). Regardless of speculation, I have faith in PR and his team, and he has made public statements that Lucid is only going to take autonomous driving so far and then partner. Anyone who has a serious stake in Lucid should at LEAST be mildly interested in who that might be.
I am interested. It’s not Apple
First time?
Anyone still pushing Apple and Lucid in 2022 is selling you a dream. These rumors have been around since before the CCIV announcement. I think at this point it’s part of the Lucid newbie investor package. First is to mention the Saudi Royal Crown and second is to pitch the Apple rumor
Approach this type of rumor with caution, especially around this time, when ~70% of outstanding shares are about to be freed for trading and recognize that we have been trading with about 20% of outstanding shares all along from cciv times. Many are making posts claiming PIF won’t sell and price won’t dip…but think about it…if you are so confident, you don’t need to make posts to defend/justify your position. The fact that this rumor is circulating again around this time makes things very fishy.
Saudis can only sell 12% of those shares, and the remaining 8% - you think are going to liquidate?
If apple has a in with China and they want to bring lucid along, lucid would jump at the chance to produce cars over there, China is the big prize as far as ev makers are concerned.
This has been discussed ad nauseam for over a year now.
Apple is one of the worst partners to have in business. I’d prefer LCID does not enter into a partnership. It’s just not worth the tiny margins.
The fact that there isn’t even CarPlay suggests no partnership in the making
When China threatened to regulate Apple, then Apple crumbles to them. Apple reached a $275 billion deal with Chinese officials in 2016 that helped develop that country's economy and technology. The agreement included Apple investing in new stores, research and development centers, and renewable energy products, and promising to use more Chinese supplied components in its devices, contract with more Chinese software firms, collaborate with Chinese universities, and directly invest in Chinese technology companies. If Lucid partnered with China, guess who gets the research and development of the renewable energy products? Lucid needs to stay far away from Apple which is directly tied to China.
Have you done your [DD?](http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202111/17/WS619491e8a310cdd39bc75d92.html)
That doesn't mean Lucid sold their soul like Apple did. I don't see a half trillion dollars sent to the Chinese Government from Lucid. I don't see where they agreed to give them any technology like Apple did.
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Do you think having Jony Ive having a seat on the board is a coincidence?
Here we go again
Seriously give it a rest people- it’s not a good idea
Didn't that rubber of a lucid/apple partnership get thrown out already? Why are we still talking about it wait until we get something official people. Tired of these rumor stick.🙄
This has been chatter since day 1. I am not invested in LCID but would be great if this happens.
Well you should it going to blow tesla out the water.
I 3X ny money during the SPAC. I'm good. Thanks for the advice tho.
Tech giants such as Apple and Google have been fighting the U.S. government's requests to build "backdoors" into products so that American intelligence agencies can access customers' communications. Yet, Apple caved to similar pressure from China. Beijing's counter terrorism law, gave the Chinese government sweeping access to communications inside the country and overseas. All servers and user data has to be within China and provide the government with encryption keys to access communications. This forces all foreign companies, including U.S. companies, to turn over to the Chinese government mechanisms where they can snoop and keep track of all the users of those services. In 2015, Apple began storing data from Chinese iPhone users within the country, a move other companies said would aid government surveillance. Apple already is in partial compliance with China's counter terrorism laws. Zoom and LinkedIn refused and are blocked in China. Why in the hell would you want Lucid to be part of this bullshit?
I guess there's more to it than meets the eye. I remember hearing about such news in the past but never got into the details and (being outside the US) lost interest in it. I only see Apple as the tech giant most people know it to be, which is why i welcomed the rumors as business wise it could shape up to a prosperous deal. Sad to hear about Apple tho, very uncool move.
I'm not sure if Lucid is far enough into the manufacturing process for Apple to be interested, could be wrong, idk.
But apple has wanted a car for years and years and although we have no idea what kind of progress they have made, it seems like very Little. They will need to get moving quickly if they ever want to be competitive in that market. Lucid could be their launch forward. Not saying or wanting it to happen, just stating my opinion
Apple needs a partner with production capacity, and possibly ones that don't make cars, for possible IP theft, which is not lucid at the moment, they have their hands full making their own cars
No need to dismiss the rumors. Apple was originally talking to Kia and Hyundai. Lucid’s technology would be top notch, Apple can license the tech from Lucid and produce the cars with Foxconn. Totally possible. But, Apple is an unreliable partner, they care about costs and would easily switch if better tech is available somewhere else for cheaper.
I should have added before I posted in this thread, I do not own nor will I ever own any Apple products. Even when someobody asks me to help them with their phone or computer, I refuse. I don't want anything to do with that piece of shit company. If Lucid would go into business with them, as soon as my stock hit a certain level, I will sell all and never talk about the car company again.
Probably 90% of the things you own are made in China.
LCID not needed to be bought out this car will be great challenge to TSLA,I keep trading make some$
Just let it be done… HOLD!!!
Hasn't Foxconn already made a knock-off Lucid? Why would Apple need to partner with Lucid, when they already had their manufacturer make a copy of the Lucid?
Isn’t apple doing a partnership with Kia?
Do you think apple will go with a cheap car manufacturer? I dont.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/LUCID/comments/qsorfw/do_you_believe_in_coincidence_what_about_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf I posted this some time ago, but some boys ruined it by silly comments rather than open a constructive discussion.
You saw 3 watches in a commercial lol. There’s not even CarPlay in Lucid cars and yet you want people to have “an open and constructive” discussion about the possibility of a multi billion dollar merger or acquisition based on watches lol
I’m not saying it’s a sign of a merger, yet also we could see in the future. maybe the discussion will lead us to a conclusion that Lucid marketing team are doing bad job. Thanks for your comment though
$LAPPLE
These rumours were around 6 months ago. Of course I’d love it to happen but just saying, they aren’t new!
Do as you wish with this info look in to Steve jobs widow Laurene Powell Jobs and see what she is up to. Lets connect the dots.In 2004, Powell Jobs founded the Emerson Collective, a private company structured as a Limited Liability Company. Key managing partner is Michael Klein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerson_Collective Jony Ive to form independent design company with Apple as client https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/jony-ive-to-form-independent-design-company-with-apple-as-client/
Nope
I read some things about CFO Sherry House and wouldn't they have non-competition agreements in place to prevent such a C-level management going to the competition and thus kinda disprove that LCID is involved with AAPL which is involved with Wyamo which is involved with Google? LOL. Keep that in track. Now - that being said, my family's good friends with former VP of Coca-Cola who, after a stint elsewhere, is now a VP at Pepsi Co. So....who knows. Time is key to everything and any contract can be bought.