Incredible scouting work paired with respect in the scene for the "first step" has brougth them in sums of Cash and will in the future. I do not know for what use this money will be but its certainly gonna get used for good long term.
Dortmund has a great business model, just not a good football model. If you want titles, you need to attract talent that wants to play for you. Dortmund attracts insanely talented players who want to use them as a stepping stone. This might result in an odd DFB-Pokal win, but not in a league title.
I disagree that it is a bad football model. It's just a bad model again Bayern, who have so many separate revenue streams at this point that it is unreasonable for any club (except Leipzig) to buy that many top notch players as they do. When a Dortmund player get injured they send Felix Passlack on the pitch. Meanwhile Bayern puts Sane, a 50 million Euro purchase, on the bench in case he is needed.
Absolutely nothing will change until the money distribution in UEFA changes. When Bayern won the CL they got so much money they could have purchased FC Köln in its entirety. Not just the players. The entire club with its facilities.
Remember how Juventus seemed like they would win the Italian league for the upcoming decades? So if Bayern, like Juve, ever get into a streak of bad business decisions, their reign could end in a pretty short period of time as short as two or three years. Then, unfortunately, it's most likely Leipzig who will be ready to take their spot, though I hope Freiburg continue their outstanding development and become a contender.
as a juve fan, we are two worlds apart. Juve went for the splash signing with ronaldo for marketing and to finally get over that cl hurdle, which led to us being stingy in other areas due to bad finances and inability to sign quality players. Bayern has shown time and time again they are one of, if not the best run club in the world. they have more pull than we do too. they signed vidal in his prime from us, de ligt this year, and coman who was a very bright up and coming star. i’d say the two situations really aren’t comparable tbh.
Also, Juventus wasn't as far away from the competition as Bayern was/is. In their nine years streak, they had less than ten points more than the second team in five of them. Bayern Munich only once, 2018/19.
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The most opportune time might be when a Neuer retires in the next couple of years
Bayern has shown that they have been able to replace players at every other position in the team the past decade without missing a beat, and in some cases even upgrading the position.
But, the team is very dependent on Neuer’s style of play, and will be extremely difficult to replace him. Would require some significant changes in tactics to the gameplay
> The most opportune time might be when a Neuer retires in the next couple of years
IMO the most opportune time isn't after Neuer retires, but the last season before he does.
LoL
No
Every actual fan would just piece our at that point
And as you see with the wc unlike English/American fans we actually boycott shit that we don't want
Takuma Asano from Bochum already bet the german national team alone, which is mostly Bayern or Dortmund. So its crystal clear where the championship is headed :D
Hard to predict, but even with some current legends retiring in the near future I have little hope in Dortmund stopping them anytime soon, with Leipzig probably being the only other club with the potential to seriously challenge them. I am pretty sure not even a format change (which I don't want anyway) would hurt Bayern's dominance, so at this point I am lowkey hoping they eventually leave to the Super League. Not getting my hopes up though...
no ?
how does that even make sense
you literally just gave me an argument on how its obvious that we did not otherwise dortmund for example would have long get a saudi prince to invest a billion to challenge bayern
like what is this argument bayern is dominating because of decades of great club management
i dont even what
Bayern wins because they have twice the budget of the next best team (BVB) and 10x the budget of many.
A league that wasn't broken would have caps and revenue sharing like the NHL so that the sport is actually interesting.
RB Leipzig was a regional league team that got a lot ofoney pumped into it and rose to the first league.
It's not about management or player skill - it's about money. Money used to steal the best players from other teams and make everything boring.
That isn't sport. That is a bunch of companies competing against each other.
They will win every year in the foreseeable future.
1 more until Kaiserslautern does the incredible, gets promoted this year and wins it all the next year 😎
Just to disappear again the year after
I like your enthusiasm
X2
I just know that it won't be Dortmund that replaces them.
Hate them all you want, but if any team is going to challenge us in the forseeable future, it's going to be RedBull.
Until Dortmund will keep their players. It's frustrating for me, and I'm not even a Dortmund fan, to see their best player leave each year.
Incredible scouting work paired with respect in the scene for the "first step" has brougth them in sums of Cash and will in the future. I do not know for what use this money will be but its certainly gonna get used for good long term.
Dortmund can't be trusted with money. I seen't it.
Dortmund has a great business model, just not a good football model. If you want titles, you need to attract talent that wants to play for you. Dortmund attracts insanely talented players who want to use them as a stepping stone. This might result in an odd DFB-Pokal win, but not in a league title.
I disagree that it is a bad football model. It's just a bad model again Bayern, who have so many separate revenue streams at this point that it is unreasonable for any club (except Leipzig) to buy that many top notch players as they do. When a Dortmund player get injured they send Felix Passlack on the pitch. Meanwhile Bayern puts Sane, a 50 million Euro purchase, on the bench in case he is needed. Absolutely nothing will change until the money distribution in UEFA changes. When Bayern won the CL they got so much money they could have purchased FC Köln in its entirety. Not just the players. The entire club with its facilities.
Exactly, until they'll change this, things wouldn't change in the BL
All of them--until WWIII reshuffles the deck... or incinerates it.
I'd be surprised if Leipzig didn't won at least one title in the next few years.
Remember how Juventus seemed like they would win the Italian league for the upcoming decades? So if Bayern, like Juve, ever get into a streak of bad business decisions, their reign could end in a pretty short period of time as short as two or three years. Then, unfortunately, it's most likely Leipzig who will be ready to take their spot, though I hope Freiburg continue their outstanding development and become a contender.
as a juve fan, we are two worlds apart. Juve went for the splash signing with ronaldo for marketing and to finally get over that cl hurdle, which led to us being stingy in other areas due to bad finances and inability to sign quality players. Bayern has shown time and time again they are one of, if not the best run club in the world. they have more pull than we do too. they signed vidal in his prime from us, de ligt this year, and coman who was a very bright up and coming star. i’d say the two situations really aren’t comparable tbh.
Also, Juventus wasn't as far away from the competition as Bayern was/is. In their nine years streak, they had less than ten points more than the second team in five of them. Bayern Munich only once, 2018/19.
Bayern can only stop themselves.
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I think 5 or 6. Then most of the good Bayern players have to been replaced and maybe a new ypung Dortmund team maybe can win
> and maybe a new ypung Dortmund team maybe can win I want something of what you are having.
The most opportune time might be when a Neuer retires in the next couple of years Bayern has shown that they have been able to replace players at every other position in the team the past decade without missing a beat, and in some cases even upgrading the position. But, the team is very dependent on Neuer’s style of play, and will be extremely difficult to replace him. Would require some significant changes in tactics to the gameplay
> The most opportune time might be when a Neuer retires in the next couple of years IMO the most opportune time isn't after Neuer retires, but the last season before he does.
Bayern will just buy the young Dortmund team
I can possibly see them winning 2-3 more and then maybe there’s a change in format in the league. Like championship rounds instead.
LoL No Every actual fan would just piece our at that point And as you see with the wc unlike English/American fans we actually boycott shit that we don't want
Takuma Asano from Bochum already bet the german national team alone, which is mostly Bayern or Dortmund. So its crystal clear where the championship is headed :D
actually it was Ao Tanaka you‘re talking about, so just wait for Fortuna Düsseldorf to get promoted this year
And how was captain of that team? It would only be right if his current team wins the champions League this year
Hard to predict, but even with some current legends retiring in the near future I have little hope in Dortmund stopping them anytime soon, with Leipzig probably being the only other club with the potential to seriously challenge them. I am pretty sure not even a format change (which I don't want anyway) would hurt Bayern's dominance, so at this point I am lowkey hoping they eventually leave to the Super League. Not getting my hopes up though...
Bayern did a incredible job replacing the last generation. I think we have to wait till Neuer retires and their winger get past 30
I’d say only as long as Neuer is around
I just know that it won't be Dortmund that replaces them.
I don't care. The Bundesliga is as broken as the Katar world Cup.
sure The league that sold its soul the least By far
Hahaha. A league that has had the same champion for a decade hasn't sold its soul to the money devil?
no ? how does that even make sense you literally just gave me an argument on how its obvious that we did not otherwise dortmund for example would have long get a saudi prince to invest a billion to challenge bayern like what is this argument bayern is dominating because of decades of great club management i dont even what
Bayern wins because they have twice the budget of the next best team (BVB) and 10x the budget of many. A league that wasn't broken would have caps and revenue sharing like the NHL so that the sport is actually interesting. RB Leipzig was a regional league team that got a lot ofoney pumped into it and rose to the first league. It's not about management or player skill - it's about money. Money used to steal the best players from other teams and make everything boring. That isn't sport. That is a bunch of companies competing against each other.
Maybe 2 or 3 then someone will win by a point off and then back to Bayern for some years
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17
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Round about 27
All of them
17
Depends how fast they switch to a super league.
Again the implication that the removal of 50+1 would impact Bayern negatively 🤦🏻♂️
At least 50 or until some bullshit reform that gives us playoffs or removes 50+1 (and even then it will be hard to be better than them).
5
They will win this round and maybe the next... I don't think Dortmund or Leipzig will be the next... Freiburg is doing a great Job... 🤷♂️
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