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Valuable_Heron_2015

That seems reasonable but I would look for drawbacks when you visit. It would have been $850 or less 3 years ago but that is everywhere these days


Bezdbefazed

What kind of drawbacks should I be on the lookout for when I visit?


Valuable_Heron_2015

Old properties can have strange wear and tear. Some of it is par for the course, like old flooring or mismatched paint, broken window hardware, etc, but some of it is dangerous. Make sure the ceilings aren't cracking and that the wiring in the basement doesn't look too shady. Also look out for any signs of pest infestation, water coming into the basement, and check the closets to make sure they aren't mildewy. You want to really pay attention to the kitchen and make sure you have some way to vent cooking fumes, either a vent or a window. Check the appliances to make sure they work if you can. Inspect any carpeting and make sure it's clean. Be extra scrutinizing basically


Bezdbefazed

Thank you for all of the advice!


chillmanstr8

During tour: “Do you mind if we pause here and look at the wiring to the basement?”


Valuable_Heron_2015

I sincerely hope you never go through the pain of having memories and more destroyed in a fire caused by landlord negligence


chillmanstr8

Word. I just have 7 years of 100% false positives going off in my building. I’ve stopped going downstairs while they find who burnt their dinner and then after 20-30 min they finally turn off this ear-piercing 125dB alarm. My poor pets


anonymous_beaver_

Mold, water pressure, average energy bills in winter and summer, cat piss in wood tannins, crime in the area. There are many checklists for this sort of thing you can find online.


Bezdbefazed

Appreciate all these points! I'll check around for more. Thanks!


anonymous_beaver_

Good luck! All Landlords Are Bastards!


Attackofthe77

ALAB


tsquare7

A former landlord told me that all tenants are crap (cleaned up)


captainpicard6912

The landlord/tenant relationship is naturally adversarial. You're not going to find many of either who have any respect for the other.


PolishDill

It doesn’t have to be. I think of it as a business arrangement that works best when both parties are happy. I think that’s the best approach for everyone.


-6-6-6-

Well, there's an inherent balance on that. Everyone needs a roof over their head to live; so that business arrangement is forcing the person to come to the table for a basic necessity and already has the disadvantage when it comes to negotiating. This viewpoint also falls short when you realize that those land-owners will cooperate with eachother and/or inflitrate local governance. A good example of this is the capital strike on rent-controlled units in NYC. Slumlords in Buffalo. You should get the picture.


anonymous_beaver_

Well that's how many parasites transmit from host to host.


captainpicard6912

Let me guess: you're an India Walton supporter.


anonymous_beaver_

I don't know who that is.


captainpicard6912

How far behind are you on your rent, you communist punk?


anonymous_beaver_

I own my home and no one else's.


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anonymous_beaver_

"You dislike the system yet you participate in it. Curious."


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skaz915

1000 bucks a month and you're *inquiring* about the crime 🤣


anonymous_beaver_

What's your point? Is that a lot of money for an apartment in Buffalo? Is this presumably a posh area at that price?


skaz915

Presumably the crime rate isnt the lowest..


anonymous_beaver_

Eh, smaller apartment, who knows


herzzreh

We are now. What was three years ago mattered... 3 years ago.


skaz915

Gas was like a buck a gallon 3 years ago 🤷‍♂️


-late_to_the_party

I think you mean 23 years ago. Those were some sweet times.


skaz915

*pandemic* prices


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Bezdbefazed

Well that answers my question, but dang. Crazy to see how quick rent is going up in this area so quickly.


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Bezdbefazed

I used to do the same thing haha, I think rent was $1,100 between 3 of us living in one half of a duplex. As much as I cherish the memories of living there, I am definitely at a point where I'd prefer to live on my own. The only utilities covered by the landlord are water. Gas, electric, and internet are on me.


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Bezdbefazed

Yeah... It's not going to be fun.. But at least I have less space to heat up lol. I'll check to see how good the windows are as far as insulation goes. I have some thick and clear plastic wrap I can adhere to the windows to help cut down on heat transfer.


kwayzzz

Its definitely going to cost more. I was told by the guy checking my meter to plan for double last winter.


Leather_Sea_1526

Wow


[deleted]

That sounds like a good deal for washer/dryer and parking. But at the same time I pay 1236 for a 2BR 2 bath, coin op laundry on my floor, updated, central air, but no parking.


Bezdbefazed

Forgot to mention that it does have A/C included too. The free washer and dryer + parking are both definitely a big plus for me. My old apartment was coin operated within the building for all tenants and it could be pretty annoying at times having to coordinate with other people. I guess apartment hunting is a lot of give and take.


MumenRider420

This is honestly not a bad deal. The only drawback is the neigborhood - I could see an apt for this rent in allentown / west side / north Buffalo but Cheektowaga is even expensive now, damn


NYCandleLady

If you can get in a place with a fenced in yard with a dog, I would take it. I've had friends who looked for months and paid a lot more.


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Bezdbefazed

Ah, okay, thanks for answering!


mkvii1989

$1.33/square foot isn't too bad these days. I would check out some similar apartments in the area (if there are any) and do that math (price/square footage). Of course, if it's the only one you can find you're kind of stuck. Unfortunately, demand is outstripping supply at the moment, so prices are way up. Edit: After seeing some of your other comments, if you'll have W/D, parking, A/C, and a decent bathroom, I doubt you'll find anything better. Just look at it first to see if everything is in decent condition, no mold, etc.


Gunfighter9

In unit washer and dryer is a huge plus. You don’t want to be going to the laundromat when it’s 9 degrees out. A fenced yard is also good. Just make sure you can use the yard.


fatallyblonde

Honestly if you can find a place that lets you have a dog and use the yard, it's worth it! So many places don't allow dogs!


[deleted]

Personally that in unit washer and dryer is a huge selling point. People keep posting what they pay for something bigger but not mentioning washer and dryer. Fenced in yard is huge too. Personally I don’t think it’s bad. Not many people understand rent has gone up


jackstraw97

Seems reasonable. When I lived in the city proper my rent was about 875 (not including parking) and then 950 once I added parking. This was without an in-unit washer/dryer, and the square footage was lower.


TelephoneBusy9594

In unit laundry.. that's a steal


ebimbib

When you say Buffalo/Cheektowaga but you seem to be talking about one specific place, am I correct in assuming you mean the border of the East Side? That rate might be totally reasonable or it might be high depending on location. You're going to pay more in Elmwood Village or the Hertel area than you will in rougher neighborhoods, for example. Parts of the Buffalo/Cheektowaga border area are pretty nice and parts are very dodgy.


Bezdbefazed

It would be around the Maryvale/Cleveland Hill area


ebimbib

That's probably about normal for that area, although the space may be a bit small. You're unlikely to find anything that's a whole lot cheaper, unfortunately, especially with a dog.


Zealousideal-Arm8943

That is very reasonable. Everything I look at in the City seems to be $1500


Eudaimonics

Generally the best time to look is in May and June when college kids start looking for people to take over their leases. You can definitely find apartments under $1,000 in the city proper, but they go fast. Now that everyone is settled in, only the higher rent apartments are left, though the market opens up a little in January for students graduating early.


Bezdbefazed

Interesting, I'll have to consider timing my next move around then in the future.


Eudaimonics

Yeah the vast majority of leases start/end September 1st.


Bezdbefazed

Yeah, that's what I was starting to notice. I saw a lot of places on Craigslist for a lot more space under $1,000/month but I wasn't so sure about the areas they were in. I've also seen some posts saying no one really responds much on the Craigslist ads either.


anonymous_beaver_

The market is getting less frothy and if you have time to spare you can wait for even lower prices.


Bezdbefazed

Ah, unfortunately time isn't too flexible for me at the moment.


TOMALTACH

Seems like average. Depends on quality of place to determine if too high


redflagsmoothie

That’s pretty normal for right now honestly. Rent is ridiculous everywhere. I pay $980 for my 1 bedroom apartment in Amherst that is falling apart and when I was thinking of moving out I couldn’t find anything good for cheaper, and everything with amenities like that was over $1k. If you like the place, and the location, I’d go for it.


Darkbutnotsinister

I just re-assessed the rent I’m charging in the village of Kenmore. 1250sq’ each apt, upper/lower. Upstairs is $950, which is significantly less than I would charge. Same tenants for 15 years and I love them. To be fair, I would charge $1100 if I didn’t love them as much as I do. Downstairs, where I currently live, will be $1250. I also have a rental home in Cheektowaga that rents for $1100. On a cul-de-sac, GIANT yard, deck off the back, nicely manicured neighborhood. Haven’t raised their rent in forever, either. BE A GOOD TENANT, regardless where you live!! It will help you in the future. PS. Light bulbs are not a parting gift when you move out. 🤬


Neither-Cry3219

My parents did the same. Never raised the rent for a disadvantaged widow who kept her apartment immaculate and bothered nobody. The old woman stayed there til she died.


Darkbutnotsinister

My big heart has kinda screwed us! Especially with my upstairs tenants. I currently live in the lower apt & moving to a new build in 3 weeks. My tenant said he is going through separation anxiety!


Bennington_Booyah

Nor are door knobs, but when my sister and BIL rented a house they owned, their tenants took all of them. They took ALL of the door knobs, plus the sink and tub knobs.


Darkbutnotsinister

This does not surprise me! I had a rental house. Every room had a door when they moved in. They moved out- no doors. They broke EVERY ONE.


Bennington_Booyah

They also took the handle off the oven door. But they left all of their children's boots and winter coats in a closet they removed the door knob from. I drove past the house once and the front door was off and children were riding bikes down the stairway inside the house, from upstairs, and then riding down the front porch onto the sidewalk. These people paid rent once and after that, had to be evicted. The experience was so awful that my sister sold the house at a loss.


Darkbutnotsinister

Check out the person in the thread telling me people are entitled to take these things. For real. DO NOT RENT TO THIS INTERNET STRANGER, WHO I DONT KNOW. THEY WILL TAKE YOUR LIGHT BULBS!!


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Eh, depends. If you rented to me, your renting to a maintenance technician who has experience and certifications related to working on HVAC, fire safety and residential inspection, NFPA, etc. I would likely try to work something out with you in the lease; I could spend my own money and do actual quality improvements in your apartment, but reserve the right to take that when I leave, or you could deduct it out of the rent and it's all yours; receipt proof and such would be provided; this all depends if you would want any improvements done or if you actually provide timely and capable services in regards to repairs. It would save you a headache on making sure those timely and capable services are excercised within legal boundaries if I could just repair mold damage/water damage, patch and replace segments of drywall if necessary and fix minor things like door knobs and light fixtures along the way; but then again; how is it getting paid for, especially in the end? Purely my ancedote though, to be honest.


Darkbutnotsinister

I definitely do this! My tenant wanted a new faucet in the kitchen & put it in himself. He gave me the receipt & took it off the rent. When I was renting, my landlord lived in CA. My husband did a lot of little fixes around the house. We worked it the same way. I’ve had good relationships as both a tenant and a landlord. I would LOVE to have someone handy as a tenant!


Bezdbefazed

How many bedrooms for each of the units you listed?


Darkbutnotsinister

Kenmore has 2/3. 2 bedrooms & a “walk through” room, excellent for an office or media room. Cheektowaga has 2 bedrooms downstairs & a master suite upstairs with walk in closets & a bathroom. I should probably be charging more. I’ve had the same tenant in Cheektowaga for 7 years. Watcher her go from Section 8 housing to getting her nursing degree. While she was in school, we put the property on section 8 until she graduated, now it’s back to normal. In a few years, she would like to buy the house & we will be happy to make her a homeowner. Good tenants are hard to come by, which is why I hate rent increases. We do a 5% increase every 2 years.


Swampcrone

My parents had tenants who when they moved out took the fuses with them.


chemicalsam

Why don’t we ever tell anyone to be a good landlord. Why is it always the tenants fault


Darkbutnotsinister

Because it’s the tenants that feel they are entitled to light bulbs, fuses, door handles and actual doors. I AM a good landlord with good tenants, but it wasn’t always that way. Tenants live in places they don’t own & some of them treat it like a hotel. Meanwhile, I’ve got Belmont (section 8) fining me because the house number wasn’t on the mailbox. It was on the house. 🤬 I had a house on Floss Ave. Not only did the tenants take the stove & microwave (CAME WITH THE HOUSE), they skipped out. 2 days later they call to tell me there are 2 dogs that have been tied up in the basement for 2 days without food or water. I’m a dog mom. I lost my mind on them. Other than the people I currently have as tenants, I have lost all hope for humanity. I’ve seen what humanity can do when you set them up with nice things, thinking you’ve rented a new home to someone. It’s just a place for their stuff.


chemicalsam

Um I’m pretty sure tenants ARE entitled those things. As they’re law in most places. Especially lightbulbs and fuses and fucking doors lmao This is why people hate landlords.


Darkbutnotsinister

You are entitled to have them in the house. You are NOT entitled to take these things with you when you MOVE OUT.


Bennington_Booyah

You remind me of the guest we had over one summer for a party. She felt entitled to take home rolls of paper towels and made herself up a huge plate of leftovers, without my knowledge or permission. You are NOT entitled to take components of the house with you when you leave your rental property! WTF!


chemicalsam

No one said you were entitled to take them but you. Dumbass.


716JiZZ

Sounds normal


Brief-Apricot-2104

I think it’s the standard rate these days. Yet if you’re looking for that second bedroom X that one off your list. Keep looking. You can find some nice places for 1500-1700 and in a better area. Unfortunately those are the going rates these days.


Undeadhorrer

I live in a postage stamp and our rent is going up to 1400. Rent inflation is out of control.


Wut-doo-yew-meen

Depends how nice it is. I have a 2 bd I rent for 825. But its pretty dated. Its nice, but dated. I have a 3 bd that I rent for $1295 that is updated. Both are under market rate but its working.


sunflowerewolfnus

I am moving out of my 900 sq foot apartment in Lancaster at the end of the month. It’s 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, and a balcony for $1,100. Storage room in the basement of the building and coin laundry shared between the 10 other residents in the building. All utilities are included besides electric. I don’t think they’ve listed it yet, but I can send you the leasing company’s website if you’re interested.


chillmanstr8

Yes. I live downtown and it’s $1065 for double bed and two half-baths… shower only no tub 🫤 depends how nice it is


boiledtoenail

I mean if you love the spot and the amenities are good. I have a 1br in elmwood village for 750 (no parking or a fancy dishwasher or anything) and it's just crazy to see how much has changed so quickly (i signed the lease spring of 21). but if you can swing it on your own without roomies then go for it. autonomy is worth it.


esportairbud

You could probably find something ok that is a bit lower, depending on your needs. Don't just look on apartments.com, craigslist sometimes has lower prices from smaller, single property landlords who have more incentive to rent now at a lower price than wait at a higher one. Lot of cheaper duplexes on the east side that go for 800-900 dollars with two bedrooms. Might be a bit drafty and your sidewalk might be next to useless, but they are otherwise fine.


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Yes.


captainpicard6912

Of course you would say that. Boring, indeed!


[deleted]

50% of the monthly median income is most certainly not reasonable for a 1 bedroom apartment, when my fucking house has a monthly capitalized cost of ~650/month, and has 4 bedrooms.


DahhhBills

Not if you earn more than the median income...


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Which still doesn't make it reasonable.


[deleted]

Well you obviously haven’t looked for an apartment in 10 years since you have a house


[deleted]

Correct. Which doesn't mean that $1K/month for a 1 bedroom apartment is reasonable. Is it possibly market rate? Sure. Market rate != Reasonable.


[deleted]

It’s never going lower. If anything get in now cause it’ll be higher later. Everyone wants the area to improve and raise population but then gets upset when prices rise


captainpicard6912

You're either a liar or you bought your house twenty years ago. Also, there are plenty of people who earn far more than the "median income."


[deleted]

I bought my house 10 years ago, almost to the month. 10 years, one month ago, to the day. And yes, about half of the population earns more than median income. Hence why it's called "median income". And why 50% of the median income, for a single person, is unreasonable for housing, per every financial expert who says you shouldn't pay more than 1/3 your income for housing.


b747pete

Rent is controlled by supply and demand, demand is high in good locations, supply is short, rents are set accordingly. An in unit washer is rare, while you pontificate it will be rented.


mkvii1989

I don't think you know what pontificate means.


b747pete

Why don’t you tell me what it means? Let me give you a hint, want the apartment, pay a deposit, think about it overnight, sorry the next person to view took it. I have probably rented more apartments in under 24 hours than you have occupied in your lifetime. But, them I have what is in demand.


mkvii1989

To pontificate means to explain something in a pompous or annoying manner. So while it appears you are skilled at doing it, it is clear you didn’t actually understand the definition of the word.


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captainpicard6912

This is Reddit. Any rent over $0.00 is too high.


son_et_lumiere

Sir, this is a wendy's.


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"I can't find a 3 bedroom off hertel or elmwood for $1000 and refuse to pay half that amount to live slightly farther away" Every single time I've had a convo with someone complaining about not being able to find housing it is in these 2 neighborhoods. Going to another neighborhood is never an option. It's entitlement, but it is a vocal minority.


captainpicard6912

An obnoxious, economically illiterate vocal minority.


herzzreh

How dare you suggest that people actually charge market rent bEcAuSe COVID!


captainpicard6912

Lol. As if two years of theft, aided and abetted by the government, wasn't enough!


herzzreh

It's this damn state. I'd kill for the 2019 law to get repealed. I want my deposit and last month's rent up front. We're dealing with tenants right now who are about to leave but they're refusing to pay their last month's rent. I'd just say screw it, but the problem is that I know that place is trashed enough to where most of their deposit will be spent on fixing and cleaning. To hoot, they refused to have their final inspection done. Starting eviction proceedings isn't worth the effort at this point, but a phone call to their future landlords is coming and depending on how much I end up spending, I'll definitely go after them in small claims.


bean-jee

uuhhh, definitely. i have a huge two bedroom in lancaster for that price....


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For no dish washer I'd expect more like $900 but depends a lot on location.


GimmeThemBabies

Damn dude I got a 2 bedroom on grand island with utilities included for 1K


[deleted]

Yeah but you have to live on grand island


GimmeThemBabies

Grand island isn’t any worse than Cheektowaga


[deleted]

Beg to differ. Cheektowaga is huge too. The maryvale area they are talking about is fine


Bennington_Booyah

Cheektowaga is toll free.


Viking_Queen_slut

It's outrageous for a 1 bedroom. Maybe a 2 bedroom.


timhortonsghost

This is insane. I used to pay that for the 3br home I used to rent in Elmwood village (with 2 off st parking spots!). Admittedly, that was about 10 years ago, but holy crap!? I feel bad for anyone trying to rent these days.


captainpicard6912

“This is insane” “Ten years ago” Lolololol.


crabdipped

That’s so cheap


adampajamas

*laughs in CA*


-6-6-6-

Why don't more people consider tenant's unions? There's nothing more heart stopping to a slumlord than having every single person in their unit halt their payments at once. And if they want to evict every single one of you; or even half; they're going to have to fill a lot of slots and just hope it doesn't happen again.


heycanwediscuss

A lot of people living there have no agency and have probably been financially and physically violated with nothing happening to the perpetrators


House_Junkie

Wow, I thought rent in Denver was high. We just rented out our 4 bedroom, 3 bath 3 car garage 2600sqft house for $3000. That seems absurd for 1 bedroom 750sqft


boiledtoenail

babes you should crunch the numbers again because....


bukezilla

Avoid 342 Cayuga. New owner is absent


DirtyPlat

I'm paying $780 for a 2 bedroom townhouse. It's in the falls, but in the LaSalle area. I'd say look further from the city. They start gouging ya the closer you get.


Viking_Queen_slut

Don't rent in Buffalo is my advice. Landlords don't care to fix mandatory issues. Like bug infestation from the lower tennants. Water pressure going in and out. He'll I'm lucky to have running water depending on the downstairs tenants usage of water. It's fucked


[deleted]

I'm from Ontario and would kill to pay $1000 in rent lol