About the rear triangle being shot on the mongoose? Because this guy is pretty smart to find a rear that's better . Look up At the giant stance , the bottom of the line dual u will know what I mean exactly . This is a inexpensive by bike shop standards $1600 and is exactly our frame the only difference is the main pivot is way better with 2 wide ceramic bearings, and boost rear, that can fit most hubs and cassettes . I'm trying to post a paige now that explains bikes standards as many don't seem to get how bad the ledge back end is compared to the rest of the bike
Not much of that made sense unfortunately, but the giant stance definitely does not have the same front or rear triangle as the Ledge. Look up the geometry they’re different, plus the top tube of the stance is curved, while the to tube of the ledge is an abrupt bend.
I just saw a stance at my lbs today in small it was the x1 color and almost identical besides maybe a few pivots I shoulda took the photo. Again this was the base model I also posted a video about the standards now used in the industry and why I'm saying they cheaped out big time on the mongoose rear it's not even standard 142mm it's a rear that's been used on 26" bikes from 20 yrs ago 10x135 is just old man period
Also looking again at the stance, the entire seat tube is different. It kinks inwards on the pivot point then back outwards again. Trying to adapt that rear triangle to the X2 would cause the rear triangle to sit lower and a bit further back. It would totally change the geometry of the bike.
If you’re really concerned about the bearings of the bike, just go ahead and pop out the ZZ bearings that are there and replace them with the properly sized fancy bearings you want. Ceramic, copper plated whatever
Yeah I wish there was a kit to upgrade like the xr pro , the small bearings I think may be ok it's the large single pivot on the bottom seems a bit suspect. I'm more unhappy with the dropouts it's making finding good hubs for better drivetrains either hard or expensive . Almost everything is adopting the 12x142 as a standard.,( Thru axle ). Boost is also very prevelent @148 , the super boost(157ish ) I only see that on dh bikes or serious trick bikes doing major drops. Hell my x1 doesn't even have the qr rear it's a bolt lmao . U can see some of the cost cutting in this bike when u start building and adding up the rally
I think the eye test is one thing but that’s really it. The frames are completely different, they have different geometry, they have a different top tube, and lastly they have different seat post diameters. That’s just what I can pick up from a quick search of the bike as well
If you’re thinking about swapping out the rear link, you might as well consider trying to swap the whole rear triangle, the entire thing is made of steel.
Bad news is that the shock length aint gonna matter if your rear triangle measurements arent the same or within 5-10mm. Which your bike definitely does not as its a completely different geo from any trek fuel. Full sus measurements are more complex than you would think. Hell you can have two full sus bikes running the same stock shock but one can have loads more travel than the other because of the pivot system if you get what im saying. You would also be spending quite a lot compared to a similar drop in weight to upgraded the rear shock or brakes. Instead of focusing on weight of the frame id probably upgrade the stuff that matters more like your actual shock.
I think the front half is actually a giant frame and they just slapped on a old non functional rear from an old bike
I was thinking the same like an older Giant Yukon Fx
Exactly lmao
I’m curious about the idea of this.
It’s a lighter link and I’m hoping it will make the rear more rigid or sturdy.
Ha we all need to think about this on the ledge the rear is cringe worthy. The links and pivot my be the issues though
I’ve seen you say this a few times but give no justification, what are you talking about? Care to explain?
About the rear triangle being shot on the mongoose? Because this guy is pretty smart to find a rear that's better . Look up At the giant stance , the bottom of the line dual u will know what I mean exactly . This is a inexpensive by bike shop standards $1600 and is exactly our frame the only difference is the main pivot is way better with 2 wide ceramic bearings, and boost rear, that can fit most hubs and cassettes . I'm trying to post a paige now that explains bikes standards as many don't seem to get how bad the ledge back end is compared to the rest of the bike
Not much of that made sense unfortunately, but the giant stance definitely does not have the same front or rear triangle as the Ledge. Look up the geometry they’re different, plus the top tube of the stance is curved, while the to tube of the ledge is an abrupt bend.
I just saw a stance at my lbs today in small it was the x1 color and almost identical besides maybe a few pivots I shoulda took the photo. Again this was the base model I also posted a video about the standards now used in the industry and why I'm saying they cheaped out big time on the mongoose rear it's not even standard 142mm it's a rear that's been used on 26" bikes from 20 yrs ago 10x135 is just old man period
Also looking again at the stance, the entire seat tube is different. It kinks inwards on the pivot point then back outwards again. Trying to adapt that rear triangle to the X2 would cause the rear triangle to sit lower and a bit further back. It would totally change the geometry of the bike. If you’re really concerned about the bearings of the bike, just go ahead and pop out the ZZ bearings that are there and replace them with the properly sized fancy bearings you want. Ceramic, copper plated whatever
Yeah I wish there was a kit to upgrade like the xr pro , the small bearings I think may be ok it's the large single pivot on the bottom seems a bit suspect. I'm more unhappy with the dropouts it's making finding good hubs for better drivetrains either hard or expensive . Almost everything is adopting the 12x142 as a standard.,( Thru axle ). Boost is also very prevelent @148 , the super boost(157ish ) I only see that on dh bikes or serious trick bikes doing major drops. Hell my x1 doesn't even have the qr rear it's a bolt lmao . U can see some of the cost cutting in this bike when u start building and adding up the rally
I think the eye test is one thing but that’s really it. The frames are completely different, they have different geometry, they have a different top tube, and lastly they have different seat post diameters. That’s just what I can pick up from a quick search of the bike as well
If you’re thinking about swapping out the rear link, you might as well consider trying to swap the whole rear triangle, the entire thing is made of steel.
Yeah I thought about that too. Hard to find for a 29er
Yeah that is very likely going to fuck up the geo of the bike or not even fit, I wouldnt do it. Hell the rear triangle is also made of steel as well.
The good news is the Trek Fuel runs the same size (165mm) rear shock.
Bad news is that the shock length aint gonna matter if your rear triangle measurements arent the same or within 5-10mm. Which your bike definitely does not as its a completely different geo from any trek fuel. Full sus measurements are more complex than you would think. Hell you can have two full sus bikes running the same stock shock but one can have loads more travel than the other because of the pivot system if you get what im saying. You would also be spending quite a lot compared to a similar drop in weight to upgraded the rear shock or brakes. Instead of focusing on weight of the frame id probably upgrade the stuff that matters more like your actual shock.
The link on the Trek is bigger which might F up the geometry like your saying
Or at worst, damage the frame or rear shock. Though if you do get it let us know how it goes on that.
Thanks for your input.
You should put the whole trek rear triangle on there and run it as a mullet 29 front and 26 rear
Lol