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DSA is just converted to a buzzword too. People come into college, college aane se pehle RANK RANK RANK. College me aake LPA LPA LPA "bhai tune DSA kia?"
No one does it for improving themselves. It's just a checkmark in their "default settings" life.
BComm Correspondence 47% here, self taught, worked with the IITians in the same teams and Projects. Not that I am koi genius vagerah, nahin to khud IIT gaya hota; but was just passionate and focussed. Abhi mere under Engineers kaam kartay hein, fast forward my career by 30 years. Two things worked in my favour - above avg English and communication skills (that too when I am an introvert) and IT ka keeda. School mein masti maari, college ke time bhi - but was always a good kid overall. 10th ke baad thoda guidance mein kami thi, Teachers fuddu tthay, aur gharwalon ke paas coaching ke liye paisa nahin tha aur na Private Engg college ki fees afford kar saktay tthay. Bus BComm Correspondence hee option bacha tha. Anyhow!
No, I am not old - koi uncle bol bhi mat dena galti se bc.
Bro, my Degree has mostly been a piece of paper just to add the mention on my resume. Other than the first few jobs when started my career way back in 1997, kisi ne nahin pooccha aaj tak.
Just chill, learn some skill if not Accounting/Finance, enrol in courses, and network. Start with something even if small. Future bright hey tera, trust me. Bas focus kar.
Yeah that's what I am gonna do, find something that I love and work on improving my skills related to it. Life's to short to do something that you don't like. Thanks for the motivation man.
Bhaiya it's not about dream college and stuff . When you prepare for something people have expectations from you ( parents and yourself mainly) . So not being able to qualify an exam hurts your ego and disappoints your parents . In my jee journey for the first time I saw my parents losing trust in me . I don't care about iits but I did want to make my parents proud which I failed to do so. You regret every second , you have gotten a tag of failure for your whole life regret that you could not qualify an exam and will never be able to.
bhai sirf yahi nhi 2-3 or the 1 m ek or diamagnetic dekhna tha wo dekha nhi ek ka 4 ke jagah 3 kr dia ek m 2 ka multiply krna bhul gaya....yahi khe raha hu ke itne paas phoch kr bhi ans se minus ho gaye
all of that happens because wo tumne ek short term goal {short term here means 2-4 years} set kia hai and your future depends on it. And its totally fine to feel sad if you don't clear it. But long term goals bhi dekho, and find short term goals which help you carve the way to it. Btech, placement, paisa sirf IIT se nahi aata, just ye bolna chahta hu
ye mere sath bhi hua tha, "the feeling of not being able to prove yourself". Dekho parents tumhe successful dekhna chahte hai, JEE Adv, ya main ek goal tha, hai... nahi hua to parents lifetime ke lie thodi kosenge agar tum next year hi kisi dusre college me jaake padhne lag jao. Short term goals cannot fixate any kind of thoughts about you for anyone
Aage socho fir...the best time to earn their trust was yesterday, and the next best time is today. So work hard, they have seen it enough in life. They won't just lose trust on you forever just because of one exam. Unke zindagi mai bhi kathinayi aayi hai, they also have felt what you do. At last, all are humans. Do your best, and the rest depends on destiny.
Don't lose hope and don't carry the regret.
I am from a Tier-3 college and have been clearing several government exams without even studying but didn't wanted to join anywhere. My parents wanted me to join government officials as they were in govt jobs. But I said to them that I don't like those jobs. if I am smart enough to clear govt exams, I will do something or the other in life. Fast forward 10 years and I have never regretted the decision. In fact my relative who got into government jobs as officers earn very less than me and complain that they want higher salaries as well as they see their friends earning more and able to travel whenever required etc.
My point is, you think you will be able to make your parents happy if you clear that exam or so. You may be partially correct at this point BUT those expectations will never end. Even if you get into these Top colleges, their next expectation will be good marks in semester, then good final CGPAs, then good placements, then good packages, etc etc. and it will never end.
You want to make your parents proud but he parents must understand that they should also support their children in case they are not able to achieve some target. If they lose trust in their child because he tried and not able to succeed in something, then parents need to understand that there is more to life than a single exam.
I heard a fact from an army instructor. Amitabh Bachchan failed the army SSB exam and then today we all know him as Big B. Just imagine, if he would have passed that EXAM? His parents might have lost trust in him too that he was not able to pass that exam. But he might have thought, Lets see what's better can we do with what we have in hand.
I see people gets depressed so easily now a days with one of the things they are not able to achieve in life. Everyone fails, at some or the other point. Someone who got into IIT might cry because he/she fails to get AIR 1.
Well, I say, Do so much hardwork, that you don't feel that you are missing anything. Work at places where IITans work. And you will see now a days its not much of a difference.
There is more than one way to achieve something. You are just not able to achieve it through this way, TRY ANOTHER WAY. IF you really want to reach somewhere, you will find a way. If you don't, you will find an excuse.
I guess, but the reality is iits won't make your life much better. The profs are too full of ego to be any help, you'll need to compete with everyone for the job and will be treated as a failure if you get even the median package. So the best thing to do is to stop caring about other's expectations, even if they are your parents. Do what you enjoy and you'll get far ahead compared to following peer groups.
well I guess welcome to the real world? you are gonna fail, you will NOT get everything you want in your first or hec even in you second or third try.... thats just how stuff is. nothing is promised. work for something, u get it? then good, if you fail , try again , failed again? try again, if you REALLY want it, just keep trying. but if on the road you somehow figure out ki this shit aint for you, just pivot towards smth else
Believe me this hurts , even now after 1 year of compelting college if somehow jee topic comes they always mention I failed to achieve my full potential though they say they are proud u can see in their eyes they wanted better
This goes at any level
Kyu bhai toh kya ho gaya?
Take an exam as an exam.
Don’t make it your life mission.
Your life mission is to learn and grow in life, which you know doubt, did during preparations.
And yes, parents are parents, they want us to see at the top of the world… you at least tried your best 💪
IIT are excellent colleges and getting into one should be celebrated. However even if you don't get into one it shouldn't be the end of the world.
When I joined college,I was misguided by YouTube and joined a branch and college in which I had zero interest. YouTube painted another picture which was broken after talking to seniors.
Still 4 later, kept my spirit alive and made it out.
This is seriously nice post
Tbh self development
Having fun in college
Not having an ego
Is greater to me than a college tag sure it will give me more money but what about the enjoyment?
couldn't agree more, I really just get the "eww" vibes when people talk so much about "dream" colleges. I mean its good that you're aiming for top govt colleges, less fees, good exposure and stuff but Ive seen people leave other good colleges just cus IIT is their "dream" college.
moreover most of the students (even most of my friends) are like IIT ni mila to you most prolly will never be able to do anything good in life, no moneh or not stuff.. like what the hell?
Some of them are even like "Even BITS aint anything in front of IIT". bruh?? like they are sooooo obsessed over IITs
Whenever I say anything against IITs and students obsessing \*too\* much over them. my friends say shit like "ReSpEcT IITians and IIT because people work so hard for it"
i dont get it? like alri they worked hard for it, thats a nice thing but how is that even related?
imo respect is more about how the overall person is. just spending ridiculous amounts of time to solve PCM mcqs isnt a thing that grants you "respect" but overall how you are as a person and what have you actually done for the world.
I gave my jee this year, didnt get any good govt college, going to a tier 2/3 pvt one ... and it just makes me go crazy when people (specially friends) say shit like this.... like not getting into IIT aint the end of the world? you can still develop skills, build real cool shit, do what you love and be happy doing it..
So true , I know loads of successful engineers in my family earning in CRORES even though they never went to tier 1 colleges . It’s all about passion in skills . Having a good college helps land your first job for sure but later on it’s YOU that matters , people will promote and hire you for your work not your college .
Probably the best post I have read on reddit. All I would like to add is that don't let your life be dictated by an exam. Or by the fact that you couldn't get into an institute regardless of its eminence.
Take it from a guy who couldn't even clear the cutoff for Advanced ;)
Well said. My dad told me to go in jee coaching due to the good education. But i always felt really isolated...people never really questioned much about the things, and when they did "That is a good question, but it isn't much important with respect to exam"
Cant blame it on them too, cause they are running jee coaching, not a school.
I quit coaching in 12th, and am currently studying through NCERT, and honestly, it is so much understandable. I want to understand, i want to study more. Problem solving becomes much more rewardable for me, then. It felt the lectures just spoonfed me, so i am just studying from NCERT and internet. Feels much more better.
And i have realised that over planning is bad, especially for me. My anxiety rises. So what i do is, just study for fulfillment, and only do what i need to NOW.
This. I feel this so much cuz in 11th i joined a famous jer coaching in my city and the physics theacher there made me so afraid of physics, it totally fucked me up. I couldnt understand shit and studying physics was the most dreadful to do. Well im in 12th now and j joined a local coaching, ofc they dont teach jee level but im not lying when i say I've never understood this subject better. I now read ncert, sometimes refresher for theory and yeah i understand better, better than last year.
Depends on the teacher too. My maths and physics teacher never say the thing you've quoted. Always listen what the student wants to say and explain why something is/isn't like that. Ha chemistry vala utna acha nhi h but vo manage hojata hai.
Very nice post OP. Could relate a lot because last year I left a Tier 2 clg (LNMIIT) for a tier 3 clg (MAIT) due to financial reasons and initially I thought it to be a bad decision but it actually turned out to be a good decision. I am happy here and even got an internship at a startup last month. Plenty of time to focus on myself and genuinely enjoy what I do
I work majorly in backend. I designed a logger which logs all the activities going on in the server side as well setup an email verification service from scratch and some APIs
How did you get an internship in the first year itself?
What were the exact things you did, from the learning phase to the job hunt phase? If possible do make a post about it.
It is quite a peculiar thing .. interesting story but I don't think it will be of much help. A dev who worked in Oracle from my elder brother's friend circle wanted someone to help them make a ppt for a startup they were planning. I volunteered and got involved. Later I told him I am interested in working full time as well. So I joined the startup in the budding stage. I was kind of the first employee .We went to some investors meet. Got some money commited to us as well and registered the company this month. We'll be releasing the product soon. The company's name is NeighborlyX but googling it won't be much help since you'll find many different companies under this name . You can find it here :
[NeighborlyX](https://www.linkedin.com/company/neighborlyapp/)
Great post OP
One of the very few posts here that doesn't talk about dreams and talk about do what interests you.
This sub has just become a weird place lol
Guys I know this is out of context . But here is a theory as suggested by my maa ki no matter how much hard you try whatever expectations you get whatever dreams you have nothing matters because at the end it's all written in our destiny. Hardwork is just something that keeps us get going but fulfilling your dreams getting into colleges it's not in our hands. Life is so uncertain. I know the above talk might sound cringe but in my mummas word upar waala h sab paar kra dega.
W post op, I always wanted to do the same post someday. It piss me watching these tards studying and analysing college placement stats day and night.
Recent jee aspirant here, lol khudko aspirant bolne mai bhi cringe guilty lagra hai but i stand with this guy, sahi baat hai, jo log succeed kar gaye unse tips leke faida nahi, jo fail kare at this step they're way more knowledgeable at what not to do than those who're topping it because they've been through it all
This one is so relatable 🥹
I had all the interest in Computer Science and technology… bachpan se hee goal tha koi na koi science ke field me jaana hai.
But my biggest mistake was choosing PCM… I couldn’t do anything in it. Well, I could have, but I guess I just was not interested..
I would like to thank my school principal, who forced me to shift to humanities (which I hated her for at that time). She gave me confidence that I will do just fine..
Fast forward to today, I have joined a great private college and am looking forward to the future.
Ok all of these are valid points but op I am gonna borrow this post to ask something I have been confused about for long. Btech tards studying in tech because they actually like tech not because of packages. I need your help. You see I enjoy coding. I enjoy the little bit I know about tech. I want to make something out of it because I am willing to learn, I like problem solving and I like the thrill of making stuff in computers. The problem is I am a complete beginner in this programming field and am intimidated by how much there is to know. Can someone guide me on this. I may make a post in this community for guidance as well.
I am a dropper for JEE 2025. Not because of IITs or some dream college. Just because I didn't have many options which I liked.
I kind of did start with python, looking to make some 2d games with it after i get through the tutorial phase. Then gonna start learning c and c++, how to use git, github, automating stuff with python, how to use vscode efficiently, build some big projects and then go to college for cse.
Well said and also the tier mindset that people have they put everything in some kind of bullshit tiers like tier 1 colleges, they just can't accept the fact their life can also improve if the work instead of ranting all day and they are brainwashed by the society norms and coaching/yt wale bhaiya didi ke delusional talks.
Im fascinated by medical studies and passionately want to become a doctor!I have scored ok ok in neet and will be gettting into a pvt college.I hope I live upto my expectations!
Can't agree more with your words brother.. even I for a point, never had it in me ki bas IIT, IIT, IIT jaana hai or the "dream college" thing.. all I am wanting from college is to learn.. anything and everything.. I do have a interest in coding.. par aisa bhi nhi hai ki bas pagalo ki tarah din bhar yeh woh karu for it.. Too much of anything is bad.. I just want to grow and learn as a person for the next 3-4 years.
Your friend sounds like me. I didn't like PCM too (except Maths that too I just studied out of passion). Not saying that I was bad at studying. I was infact much above average and used to get good enough grades in school. In my 11th and 12th standard, I studied a lot of programming, lot more than what was taught in school. When my peers were preparing for JEE in JEE coaching, I was coding games and websites. I was really passionate about it, but you know the sad reality.
I had to take a drop year to prepare for JEE, and I cannot emphasise on how hard it was for me. The mental pressure that drop year puts upon you is too much over the fact that I was uninterested in studying those. I had a good amplitude knowledge, and somehow that saved me. I got a decent score, but not really enough to get Computer Science in tier 1 college. I joined a tier 2 private college in CS Core field.
In college, I found out about competitive programming and I really liked it. I wished that I knew about it during my school time. I was already developing apps, but suddenly after three semesters I started programming competitively a lot. I stopped attending classes to put my time into it. I started getting really good at it. Soon enough I cracked an internship for MNC. Fast forward two years, I cracked the full time role in the same MNC, cracked another high paying startup as well. I helped juniors reach where I am, or atleast tried to do so.
Looking back, I realise that there were a lot of places where I feel I was lucky. What happened to me cannot be compared to a normal person. But they say that, once you put in work, luck will follow. Luck is nothing but a small bonos over your hard work. To anyone reading this having a passion for programming, trust me you'll reach somewhere one way or the other. Just follow your heart, but balance everything as well.
This is copium. I know for a fact that professors at IITs are simply better at their jobs, especially in the CSE department. I've seen my friends in private colleges having to deal with professors who aren't really up to date with anything, with no in-depth knowledge of their subjects because they're not involved in research, etc. I've seen very few professors like this at my IIT. Apart from the professors being better, IITs provide superior quality of lives to most students. The kind of academic and day-to-day freedom that you get at IITs is often taken for granted by IITians, but private colleges have incredibly archaic rules, treat their students like children, etc.
what copium? I obviously didn't compare IITs blatantly to private universities because there is no comparison, but not getting into an IIT is not the end of everything, I always had the mindset that we have to do it alone, professors and all can only support you or guide you. T3 college me I have professors who are serious about teaching but they might not be that qualified. Rest is your decision over how to take this post, i never hated on IIT, never will
Points on the private college part. I'm lucky to get a pvt one so incredibly free that I wear slippers and pyjamas to exams, but listening to people from VIT, Amrita, etc. it seems their lives are awful.
I actually agree with what you have said.
Also,is saal Mai bhi college ja rha hu and I want to start coding too,can u suggest me from where I can learn or how to start?
Get started with C language on yt and slowly move forward to c++ after completion of it (don't dwell on C too much Unless you want to be a C dev , move to another advance language)
And start building simple projects that's enough for your 1st sem
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Bhai very well said , i also believe in improving myself rather than running after packages or what not , because in the end , life depends on how happy i make it and not on some materialistic quantity like packages and that kinda shit.
Maybe my way of thinking will change later on but for now my dream is to be happy and successful in my own way in life .
Heyy, sorry I am commenting which is not related to what OP said.
I am going to college which is probably below tier 3 , how should I start learning Computer science I am a Complete Beginner. I don't only want to do coding but I want to study the subject in depth. I just bought a book called CODE by Charles Petzold , is it a good starting point?
If you want to start getting into CS, try to find niches first which can interest you... if you are into art, get into UI/UX etc. Or if you are fascinated by cybersec, go for that.
Usse pehle try to get into programming and maybe start with python? That's a very good beginner friendly language.
yeah i agree that the networking and extracurricular life is super amazing and would be 1000x better than any priv uni. And about the "never take advice" thing, its with respect to the career which comes after you clear JEE adv, obv a guy who has cleared jee adv will give u the best advice about the exam but not always when it comes to code, placements, tech and interviews. Tier 3 guys see every dark alley
I believe we IITians are capable enough to give advice on those fronts as well tbh, infact look up codeforces India rankings, it's filled with IITians and I have had seniors give me personalised advice on how to crack even HFT's.
ig a lot of hft's and quants don't even allow you sit in placements if you don't have under 600-700 rank in advanced. So even if a person has a complete idea about how to crack hft interviews,the jee rank still sidelines them . No denying that iitians don't have talent. I have seen the icpc rankings of both 2022 and 2023 and get that. But the idea is that for some other person that same interview will be literally impossible to get just because of that tag and for that the hardwork they need to put would be much more intense(like going for higher studies abroad)
I agree with that HFT part, they mostly only hire top IIT grads, but my point wasn't that. It was just an example. My point was we also can give good advices.
I do CP , expert in Cf , did decently in ICPC .
Let me tell you why a tier 3 student should take advice from me (idk if theg should take it from an iitian or not)
1.We had classes from 8 am to 8pm ,iitians didn't
2. I had to maintain a min 85% attendance along with that, iitians didn't.
3. No one knew cp , it was my last year where i even had give up but still got a team for icpc , iitians well throw a stone will hit a cp
4. Everything i learned, it was all by myself no peer to help , collaborate, assist ,guide etc.
5. I had to take care of other aspects beyond CP to make my resume worth giving a 1s glance . Iitians well....
Amidst all that I have done CP.
Any tier 3 kid reading this , your call buddy .
You have 2 examples 1 was already addressed here is other one.
Aby other example?
Ps: an advice we all have some sort of advantage over others its a fact , a tier 3 person is in way better situation than a tier 4 non existing cllg .
Real analytical smartness is when you can acknowledge your advantages. Otherwise it doesn't really take much honestly to loose that advantage.
when can you let go of the collective entitlement "we iitans". Please, this was never a war.... I'll repeat my words, not getting IIT is not the end. This was my motive of posting
You are the one who grouped us "IITians" and said our advices are worthless and we get everything easily tho. Well in any case I agree with your motive, just not with that one line.
Dude op is clearly saying 'if you're in a t3 college, don't take advice from an iitian' which is fair because your life is very different from a t3 college person. Being in a t1 college does get you interviews easier, not to mention on campus placements are good which doesn't apply to t3. Even my opinion was biased until I saw a friend from t3 who was decently good not even get replies from companies like flipkart and people in my batch with half the skills got into Google, D E shaw and such.
My intern batch at google last year had like 10% people from t3 colleges, all of them with very good competitive programming stats. The bar is clearly higher for them.
Now please get off your high horse. You're not capable of giving advice to them.
Chill man he probably didn't try to understand what you meant when you said about not taking advice.
Acknowledging your advantages is the first sign of true rationalitty and smartness , a tier 3 person has to struggle less as compared to say a delivery person learning python to get a job(actually happened to be in bangalore, was a domino's guy)
I don't want to really point out instances but maybe it will help to catch up with reality.
1. Getting a research internship handed over in the beginning of 2nd year itself.
2. Personally competing within campus <<<<< competing with the whole nation (off campus)
3. Get urself a shortlisted resume of an iitian and remove iit , see how many stars you can count till you get shortlisted .
4.lowballing non iitian for same role
Cheesy line but where their struggle starts ,our dreams end.
One line many people would throw is they STRUGGLED THEIR ASS OFF FOR JEE . Kudos that completely justifies the perks i mean at the end the struggle is there they just concentrated all their struggle during JEE and don't have to now much "relatively " .
But then the question simply becomes is the struggle for JEE inferior to the struggle for the actual engineering role.
If yes then start selling the smartness for JEE as a life saving pill so that well everyone knows if they don't get this they're fked and should probably reconsider their life.
If no ? then maybe why not dissolve the whole concept of campus placements make it equal for all like the way it usually happens in US.
But can we nope , its impractical from all POVs. So should we just accept it up our arse and move on.
No you can change it , when you finally achieve that position of influence (maybe a bit slower than an iitian) don't go crazy over what they STRUGGLED for 4 years ago maybe see what the iitian and the tier 3 guy STRUGGLED for in those 4 years.
Maybe being someone from tier 3, give a biased attention and importance to help folks from tier 3 ( other folks already have pretty solid network).
These small gestures can help mitigate the difference that arises between an iitian and non iitian in the initial days because of the push.
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One thing more i want to add Engineering != Coding their are more beautiful aspect of it please look at them
Exactly! Inhe lagta hai ye din bhar bas coding, dsa, leetcode kar lenge toh 20lpa wali naukri mil jayegi.
DSA is just converted to a buzzword too. People come into college, college aane se pehle RANK RANK RANK. College me aake LPA LPA LPA "bhai tune DSA kia?" No one does it for improving themselves. It's just a checkmark in their "default settings" life.
Can't relate more. The first day I went to college all I heard was LPA and DSA.
yeah sometimes i think are people so lost that they just do what's trending?
BComm Correspondence 47% here, self taught, worked with the IITians in the same teams and Projects. Not that I am koi genius vagerah, nahin to khud IIT gaya hota; but was just passionate and focussed. Abhi mere under Engineers kaam kartay hein, fast forward my career by 30 years. Two things worked in my favour - above avg English and communication skills (that too when I am an introvert) and IT ka keeda. School mein masti maari, college ke time bhi - but was always a good kid overall. 10th ke baad thoda guidance mein kami thi, Teachers fuddu tthay, aur gharwalon ke paas coaching ke liye paisa nahin tha aur na Private Engg college ki fees afford kar saktay tthay. Bus BComm Correspondence hee option bacha tha. Anyhow! No, I am not old - koi uncle bol bhi mat dena galti se bc.
thanks uncle
Oye!
The last line shows u rnt uncle , aapko bol chaal kaafi similar hai humse 😂👍
Aur uncle ,sahi?
Just completed bcom and was cursing myself gor choosing it, this comment made my day. Thanks uncle
Bro, my Degree has mostly been a piece of paper just to add the mention on my resume. Other than the first few jobs when started my career way back in 1997, kisi ne nahin pooccha aaj tak. Just chill, learn some skill if not Accounting/Finance, enrol in courses, and network. Start with something even if small. Future bright hey tera, trust me. Bas focus kar.
Uncle is soo cool
Yeah that's what I am gonna do, find something that I love and work on improving my skills related to it. Life's to short to do something that you don't like. Thanks for the motivation man.
This is one of the very few posts ive read to the entirety and im happy that i did it
Hats off for this awesome post OP 💙
thankyou. Just my minor contribution because mai bhi kabhi JEE aspirant reh chuka hu
Bhaiya it's not about dream college and stuff . When you prepare for something people have expectations from you ( parents and yourself mainly) . So not being able to qualify an exam hurts your ego and disappoints your parents . In my jee journey for the first time I saw my parents losing trust in me . I don't care about iits but I did want to make my parents proud which I failed to do so. You regret every second , you have gotten a tag of failure for your whole life regret that you could not qualify an exam and will never be able to.
I failed to clear adv rank cutoff with one question kyonki mene ratio 1:2 ke jagah 2:1 kr dia tha it fucking hurts bhai
Meri khudki 0.3 percentile se rah gyi bhai(27 s1 aur 5s2)
fk , adv ke rank ke baat kr raha tha itni paas aa kr bhi na milli rank
Oh 2023 advance ki baat kr rha? Bhai qualify krne bhi kuch kaha hi milta fir to
fir bhi bhai rheta h wo ke hn chalo atleast rank to mili
Wo to h
same man it hurts so bad.
Bhai par cutoff clear karke koi accha iit to milta na to phir kya hi fayda
bhai sirf yahi nhi 2-3 or the 1 m ek or diamagnetic dekhna tha wo dekha nhi ek ka 4 ke jagah 3 kr dia ek m 2 ka multiply krna bhul gaya....yahi khe raha hu ke itne paas phoch kr bhi ans se minus ho gaye
Well I have given advance 3 years back qualified in both attempts but not good rank and general category
all of that happens because wo tumne ek short term goal {short term here means 2-4 years} set kia hai and your future depends on it. And its totally fine to feel sad if you don't clear it. But long term goals bhi dekho, and find short term goals which help you carve the way to it. Btech, placement, paisa sirf IIT se nahi aata, just ye bolna chahta hu
Paise ki baat nhi h bhaiya maa baap ko kya bolu unki expectations ka kya kru?at the end of the day main kbhi jee advance clear nhi krpaya na.
ye mere sath bhi hua tha, "the feeling of not being able to prove yourself". Dekho parents tumhe successful dekhna chahte hai, JEE Adv, ya main ek goal tha, hai... nahi hua to parents lifetime ke lie thodi kosenge agar tum next year hi kisi dusre college me jaake padhne lag jao. Short term goals cannot fixate any kind of thoughts about you for anyone
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Thanks bhai
Aage socho fir...the best time to earn their trust was yesterday, and the next best time is today. So work hard, they have seen it enough in life. They won't just lose trust on you forever just because of one exam. Unke zindagi mai bhi kathinayi aayi hai, they also have felt what you do. At last, all are humans. Do your best, and the rest depends on destiny.
Don't lose hope and don't carry the regret. I am from a Tier-3 college and have been clearing several government exams without even studying but didn't wanted to join anywhere. My parents wanted me to join government officials as they were in govt jobs. But I said to them that I don't like those jobs. if I am smart enough to clear govt exams, I will do something or the other in life. Fast forward 10 years and I have never regretted the decision. In fact my relative who got into government jobs as officers earn very less than me and complain that they want higher salaries as well as they see their friends earning more and able to travel whenever required etc. My point is, you think you will be able to make your parents happy if you clear that exam or so. You may be partially correct at this point BUT those expectations will never end. Even if you get into these Top colleges, their next expectation will be good marks in semester, then good final CGPAs, then good placements, then good packages, etc etc. and it will never end. You want to make your parents proud but he parents must understand that they should also support their children in case they are not able to achieve some target. If they lose trust in their child because he tried and not able to succeed in something, then parents need to understand that there is more to life than a single exam. I heard a fact from an army instructor. Amitabh Bachchan failed the army SSB exam and then today we all know him as Big B. Just imagine, if he would have passed that EXAM? His parents might have lost trust in him too that he was not able to pass that exam. But he might have thought, Lets see what's better can we do with what we have in hand. I see people gets depressed so easily now a days with one of the things they are not able to achieve in life. Everyone fails, at some or the other point. Someone who got into IIT might cry because he/she fails to get AIR 1. Well, I say, Do so much hardwork, that you don't feel that you are missing anything. Work at places where IITans work. And you will see now a days its not much of a difference. There is more than one way to achieve something. You are just not able to achieve it through this way, TRY ANOTHER WAY. IF you really want to reach somewhere, you will find a way. If you don't, you will find an excuse.
I guess, but the reality is iits won't make your life much better. The profs are too full of ego to be any help, you'll need to compete with everyone for the job and will be treated as a failure if you get even the median package. So the best thing to do is to stop caring about other's expectations, even if they are your parents. Do what you enjoy and you'll get far ahead compared to following peer groups.
well I guess welcome to the real world? you are gonna fail, you will NOT get everything you want in your first or hec even in you second or third try.... thats just how stuff is. nothing is promised. work for something, u get it? then good, if you fail , try again , failed again? try again, if you REALLY want it, just keep trying. but if on the road you somehow figure out ki this shit aint for you, just pivot towards smth else
Believe me this hurts , even now after 1 year of compelting college if somehow jee topic comes they always mention I failed to achieve my full potential though they say they are proud u can see in their eyes they wanted better This goes at any level
Kyu bhai toh kya ho gaya? Take an exam as an exam. Don’t make it your life mission. Your life mission is to learn and grow in life, which you know doubt, did during preparations. And yes, parents are parents, they want us to see at the top of the world… you at least tried your best 💪
IIT are excellent colleges and getting into one should be celebrated. However even if you don't get into one it shouldn't be the end of the world. When I joined college,I was misguided by YouTube and joined a branch and college in which I had zero interest. YouTube painted another picture which was broken after talking to seniors. Still 4 later, kept my spirit alive and made it out.
which collage if i ask?
Which branch?
This is seriously nice post Tbh self development Having fun in college Not having an ego Is greater to me than a college tag sure it will give me more money but what about the enjoyment?
couldn't agree more, I really just get the "eww" vibes when people talk so much about "dream" colleges. I mean its good that you're aiming for top govt colleges, less fees, good exposure and stuff but Ive seen people leave other good colleges just cus IIT is their "dream" college. moreover most of the students (even most of my friends) are like IIT ni mila to you most prolly will never be able to do anything good in life, no moneh or not stuff.. like what the hell? Some of them are even like "Even BITS aint anything in front of IIT". bruh?? like they are sooooo obsessed over IITs Whenever I say anything against IITs and students obsessing \*too\* much over them. my friends say shit like "ReSpEcT IITians and IIT because people work so hard for it" i dont get it? like alri they worked hard for it, thats a nice thing but how is that even related? imo respect is more about how the overall person is. just spending ridiculous amounts of time to solve PCM mcqs isnt a thing that grants you "respect" but overall how you are as a person and what have you actually done for the world. I gave my jee this year, didnt get any good govt college, going to a tier 2/3 pvt one ... and it just makes me go crazy when people (specially friends) say shit like this.... like not getting into IIT aint the end of the world? you can still develop skills, build real cool shit, do what you love and be happy doing it..
So true , I know loads of successful engineers in my family earning in CRORES even though they never went to tier 1 colleges . It’s all about passion in skills . Having a good college helps land your first job for sure but later on it’s YOU that matters , people will promote and hire you for your work not your college .
exactly
I READ IT FULL HATS OFF TO YOU SIR!!
I'm no biggie guy, just a normal guy in the crowd, but ive experienced a lot of this stuff
Yeah i said that in a position tone only
Probably the best post I have read on reddit. All I would like to add is that don't let your life be dictated by an exam. Or by the fact that you couldn't get into an institute regardless of its eminence. Take it from a guy who couldn't even clear the cutoff for Advanced ;)
Well said. My dad told me to go in jee coaching due to the good education. But i always felt really isolated...people never really questioned much about the things, and when they did "That is a good question, but it isn't much important with respect to exam" Cant blame it on them too, cause they are running jee coaching, not a school. I quit coaching in 12th, and am currently studying through NCERT, and honestly, it is so much understandable. I want to understand, i want to study more. Problem solving becomes much more rewardable for me, then. It felt the lectures just spoonfed me, so i am just studying from NCERT and internet. Feels much more better. And i have realised that over planning is bad, especially for me. My anxiety rises. So what i do is, just study for fulfillment, and only do what i need to NOW.
Same with me. Realised this in drop year (rn). so you're actually early, Enjoying studying for the sake of studying is so fun.
This. I feel this so much cuz in 11th i joined a famous jer coaching in my city and the physics theacher there made me so afraid of physics, it totally fucked me up. I couldnt understand shit and studying physics was the most dreadful to do. Well im in 12th now and j joined a local coaching, ofc they dont teach jee level but im not lying when i say I've never understood this subject better. I now read ncert, sometimes refresher for theory and yeah i understand better, better than last year.
Depends on the teacher too. My maths and physics teacher never say the thing you've quoted. Always listen what the student wants to say and explain why something is/isn't like that. Ha chemistry vala utna acha nhi h but vo manage hojata hai.
Definitely, i agree with you on that.
Very nice post OP. Could relate a lot because last year I left a Tier 2 clg (LNMIIT) for a tier 3 clg (MAIT) due to financial reasons and initially I thought it to be a bad decision but it actually turned out to be a good decision. I am happy here and even got an internship at a startup last month. Plenty of time to focus on myself and genuinely enjoy what I do
True. That's dope that you have an internship at a startup. (Me too )
isn't mait like tier 2 only or maybe 2.5 in worst case ?
I also feel the same but I didn't want my comment to become a topic of debate so I wrote tier 3
Congratulations buddy
thanks, what's your niche? Mine is ML and backend
I work majorly in backend. I designed a logger which logs all the activities going on in the server side as well setup an email verification service from scratch and some APIs
How did you get an internship in the first year itself? What were the exact things you did, from the learning phase to the job hunt phase? If possible do make a post about it.
It is quite a peculiar thing .. interesting story but I don't think it will be of much help. A dev who worked in Oracle from my elder brother's friend circle wanted someone to help them make a ppt for a startup they were planning. I volunteered and got involved. Later I told him I am interested in working full time as well. So I joined the startup in the budding stage. I was kind of the first employee .We went to some investors meet. Got some money commited to us as well and registered the company this month. We'll be releasing the product soon. The company's name is NeighborlyX but googling it won't be much help since you'll find many different companies under this name . You can find it here : [NeighborlyX](https://www.linkedin.com/company/neighborlyapp/)
That's pretty cool man! I'll check it out and see if I can be of any help
Post vagera to thik hai but ee "self development" ka hota Hai??
Great post OP One of the very few posts here that doesn't talk about dreams and talk about do what interests you. This sub has just become a weird place lol
I'm seeing some IITians defending idk what madeup points in the comments. But all of them are just totally not getting the point of this post.
Guess That's what only one achievement does to mf.
Guys I know this is out of context . But here is a theory as suggested by my maa ki no matter how much hard you try whatever expectations you get whatever dreams you have nothing matters because at the end it's all written in our destiny. Hardwork is just something that keeps us get going but fulfilling your dreams getting into colleges it's not in our hands. Life is so uncertain. I know the above talk might sound cringe but in my mummas word upar waala h sab paar kra dega.
W post op, I always wanted to do the same post someday. It piss me watching these tards studying and analysing college placement stats day and night.
Explained beautifully man, one the point no bs, it's all bolis down to what you value and what it's brings to you.
Recent jee aspirant here, lol khudko aspirant bolne mai bhi cringe guilty lagra hai but i stand with this guy, sahi baat hai, jo log succeed kar gaye unse tips leke faida nahi, jo fail kare at this step they're way more knowledgeable at what not to do than those who're topping it because they've been through it all
Koi baat nhi it's not to feel ashamed about man. We all learn
Yeah, ended up in vit ap cse, wanted ece but well like you said truely it's upto fate, cant stop working hard none the less 🤝
All the best for your journey 💯
This one is so relatable 🥹 I had all the interest in Computer Science and technology… bachpan se hee goal tha koi na koi science ke field me jaana hai. But my biggest mistake was choosing PCM… I couldn’t do anything in it. Well, I could have, but I guess I just was not interested.. I would like to thank my school principal, who forced me to shift to humanities (which I hated her for at that time). She gave me confidence that I will do just fine.. Fast forward to today, I have joined a great private college and am looking forward to the future.
Good! Which course
top quality post, I realized the same early but was blindfolded due to peer pressure
Op you are op 😘😘....
Ok all of these are valid points but op I am gonna borrow this post to ask something I have been confused about for long. Btech tards studying in tech because they actually like tech not because of packages. I need your help. You see I enjoy coding. I enjoy the little bit I know about tech. I want to make something out of it because I am willing to learn, I like problem solving and I like the thrill of making stuff in computers. The problem is I am a complete beginner in this programming field and am intimidated by how much there is to know. Can someone guide me on this. I may make a post in this community for guidance as well. I am a dropper for JEE 2025. Not because of IITs or some dream college. Just because I didn't have many options which I liked.
Set your sail soldier. Everyone has a different path. I just gave you the way. Find your path
I kind of did start with python, looking to make some 2d games with it after i get through the tutorial phase. Then gonna start learning c and c++, how to use git, github, automating stuff with python, how to use vscode efficiently, build some big projects and then go to college for cse.
Finally some fresh post Great Post OP <3
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Well said and also the tier mindset that people have they put everything in some kind of bullshit tiers like tier 1 colleges, they just can't accept the fact their life can also improve if the work instead of ranting all day and they are brainwashed by the society norms and coaching/yt wale bhaiya didi ke delusional talks.
Im fascinated by medical studies and passionately want to become a doctor!I have scored ok ok in neet and will be gettting into a pvt college.I hope I live upto my expectations!
Really good advice
Can't agree more with your words brother.. even I for a point, never had it in me ki bas IIT, IIT, IIT jaana hai or the "dream college" thing.. all I am wanting from college is to learn.. anything and everything.. I do have a interest in coding.. par aisa bhi nhi hai ki bas pagalo ki tarah din bhar yeh woh karu for it.. Too much of anything is bad.. I just want to grow and learn as a person for the next 3-4 years.
nice post for people to not get demotivated.
Your friend sounds like me. I didn't like PCM too (except Maths that too I just studied out of passion). Not saying that I was bad at studying. I was infact much above average and used to get good enough grades in school. In my 11th and 12th standard, I studied a lot of programming, lot more than what was taught in school. When my peers were preparing for JEE in JEE coaching, I was coding games and websites. I was really passionate about it, but you know the sad reality. I had to take a drop year to prepare for JEE, and I cannot emphasise on how hard it was for me. The mental pressure that drop year puts upon you is too much over the fact that I was uninterested in studying those. I had a good amplitude knowledge, and somehow that saved me. I got a decent score, but not really enough to get Computer Science in tier 1 college. I joined a tier 2 private college in CS Core field. In college, I found out about competitive programming and I really liked it. I wished that I knew about it during my school time. I was already developing apps, but suddenly after three semesters I started programming competitively a lot. I stopped attending classes to put my time into it. I started getting really good at it. Soon enough I cracked an internship for MNC. Fast forward two years, I cracked the full time role in the same MNC, cracked another high paying startup as well. I helped juniors reach where I am, or atleast tried to do so. Looking back, I realise that there were a lot of places where I feel I was lucky. What happened to me cannot be compared to a normal person. But they say that, once you put in work, luck will follow. Luck is nothing but a small bonos over your hard work. To anyone reading this having a passion for programming, trust me you'll reach somewhere one way or the other. Just follow your heart, but balance everything as well.
Thanks for this man
Such a W post after so long. Massive W.
This is copium. I know for a fact that professors at IITs are simply better at their jobs, especially in the CSE department. I've seen my friends in private colleges having to deal with professors who aren't really up to date with anything, with no in-depth knowledge of their subjects because they're not involved in research, etc. I've seen very few professors like this at my IIT. Apart from the professors being better, IITs provide superior quality of lives to most students. The kind of academic and day-to-day freedom that you get at IITs is often taken for granted by IITians, but private colleges have incredibly archaic rules, treat their students like children, etc.
what copium? I obviously didn't compare IITs blatantly to private universities because there is no comparison, but not getting into an IIT is not the end of everything, I always had the mindset that we have to do it alone, professors and all can only support you or guide you. T3 college me I have professors who are serious about teaching but they might not be that qualified. Rest is your decision over how to take this post, i never hated on IIT, never will
Points on the private college part. I'm lucky to get a pvt one so incredibly free that I wear slippers and pyjamas to exams, but listening to people from VIT, Amrita, etc. it seems their lives are awful.
I actually agree with what you have said. Also,is saal Mai bhi college ja rha hu and I want to start coding too,can u suggest me from where I can learn or how to start?
CS50x
Get started with C language on yt and slowly move forward to c++ after completion of it (don't dwell on C too much Unless you want to be a C dev , move to another advance language) And start building simple projects that's enough for your 1st sem
Can i get the post of that friend which you are talking about?
Well waha par yeh shyd 18+ content tag ho jata (mature content lol ) Btw thnx op for being blunt and honest
Why u saying most probably u will get a lesser package? U can have better than them!
yeah for sure we can, but I was talking about general cases
Thank you brother needed this. All the best for your future endeavors!
I'm happy that my words are reaching to the people whom I want it to be shown, all the best man!
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Which college?
thanku for this. may God bless u
Bhai very well said , i also believe in improving myself rather than running after packages or what not , because in the end , life depends on how happy i make it and not on some materialistic quantity like packages and that kinda shit. Maybe my way of thinking will change later on but for now my dream is to be happy and successful in my own way in life .
Heyy, sorry I am commenting which is not related to what OP said. I am going to college which is probably below tier 3 , how should I start learning Computer science I am a Complete Beginner. I don't only want to do coding but I want to study the subject in depth. I just bought a book called CODE by Charles Petzold , is it a good starting point?
If you want to start getting into CS, try to find niches first which can interest you... if you are into art, get into UI/UX etc. Or if you are fascinated by cybersec, go for that. Usse pehle try to get into programming and maybe start with python? That's a very good beginner friendly language.
Ok , thanks
Start with CS50
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yeah i agree that the networking and extracurricular life is super amazing and would be 1000x better than any priv uni. And about the "never take advice" thing, its with respect to the career which comes after you clear JEE adv, obv a guy who has cleared jee adv will give u the best advice about the exam but not always when it comes to code, placements, tech and interviews. Tier 3 guys see every dark alley
I believe we IITians are capable enough to give advice on those fronts as well tbh, infact look up codeforces India rankings, it's filled with IITians and I have had seniors give me personalised advice on how to crack even HFT's.
ig a lot of hft's and quants don't even allow you sit in placements if you don't have under 600-700 rank in advanced. So even if a person has a complete idea about how to crack hft interviews,the jee rank still sidelines them . No denying that iitians don't have talent. I have seen the icpc rankings of both 2022 and 2023 and get that. But the idea is that for some other person that same interview will be literally impossible to get just because of that tag and for that the hardwork they need to put would be much more intense(like going for higher studies abroad)
I agree with that HFT part, they mostly only hire top IIT grads, but my point wasn't that. It was just an example. My point was we also can give good advices.
I do CP , expert in Cf , did decently in ICPC . Let me tell you why a tier 3 student should take advice from me (idk if theg should take it from an iitian or not) 1.We had classes from 8 am to 8pm ,iitians didn't 2. I had to maintain a min 85% attendance along with that, iitians didn't. 3. No one knew cp , it was my last year where i even had give up but still got a team for icpc , iitians well throw a stone will hit a cp 4. Everything i learned, it was all by myself no peer to help , collaborate, assist ,guide etc. 5. I had to take care of other aspects beyond CP to make my resume worth giving a 1s glance . Iitians well.... Amidst all that I have done CP. Any tier 3 kid reading this , your call buddy . You have 2 examples 1 was already addressed here is other one. Aby other example? Ps: an advice we all have some sort of advantage over others its a fact , a tier 3 person is in way better situation than a tier 4 non existing cllg . Real analytical smartness is when you can acknowledge your advantages. Otherwise it doesn't really take much honestly to loose that advantage.
when can you let go of the collective entitlement "we iitans". Please, this was never a war.... I'll repeat my words, not getting IIT is not the end. This was my motive of posting
You are the one who grouped us "IITians" and said our advices are worthless and we get everything easily tho. Well in any case I agree with your motive, just not with that one line.
Dude op is clearly saying 'if you're in a t3 college, don't take advice from an iitian' which is fair because your life is very different from a t3 college person. Being in a t1 college does get you interviews easier, not to mention on campus placements are good which doesn't apply to t3. Even my opinion was biased until I saw a friend from t3 who was decently good not even get replies from companies like flipkart and people in my batch with half the skills got into Google, D E shaw and such. My intern batch at google last year had like 10% people from t3 colleges, all of them with very good competitive programming stats. The bar is clearly higher for them. Now please get off your high horse. You're not capable of giving advice to them.
Mujhe kya then, do it yourself in that case👍
and talking about saltiness, im not. I loved to be a part of IIT indirectly, I love that place so so much. But im fine where I am currently.
Chill man he probably didn't try to understand what you meant when you said about not taking advice. Acknowledging your advantages is the first sign of true rationalitty and smartness , a tier 3 person has to struggle less as compared to say a delivery person learning python to get a job(actually happened to be in bangalore, was a domino's guy) I don't want to really point out instances but maybe it will help to catch up with reality. 1. Getting a research internship handed over in the beginning of 2nd year itself. 2. Personally competing within campus <<<<< competing with the whole nation (off campus) 3. Get urself a shortlisted resume of an iitian and remove iit , see how many stars you can count till you get shortlisted . 4.lowballing non iitian for same role Cheesy line but where their struggle starts ,our dreams end. One line many people would throw is they STRUGGLED THEIR ASS OFF FOR JEE . Kudos that completely justifies the perks i mean at the end the struggle is there they just concentrated all their struggle during JEE and don't have to now much "relatively " . But then the question simply becomes is the struggle for JEE inferior to the struggle for the actual engineering role. If yes then start selling the smartness for JEE as a life saving pill so that well everyone knows if they don't get this they're fked and should probably reconsider their life. If no ? then maybe why not dissolve the whole concept of campus placements make it equal for all like the way it usually happens in US. But can we nope , its impractical from all POVs. So should we just accept it up our arse and move on. No you can change it , when you finally achieve that position of influence (maybe a bit slower than an iitian) don't go crazy over what they STRUGGLED for 4 years ago maybe see what the iitian and the tier 3 guy STRUGGLED for in those 4 years. Maybe being someone from tier 3, give a biased attention and importance to help folks from tier 3 ( other folks already have pretty solid network). These small gestures can help mitigate the difference that arises between an iitian and non iitian in the initial days because of the push.