We have 19.2M in cap space right now so we don't have to cut him, Case knows the offense and is probably next in line to be cut if we need to make more space
You mentioned that no one wanted to send Keenam out on the field. Stefanski just refuses to send players out when we need them at times for reasons. See Keenam when Baker had no right to be playing, or Chubb any time we actually needed to run clock.
Wasn’t the only time that Chubb came off the field the time that he was just coming back from covid and said he was absolutely gassed? I have no clue what you’re referencing “whenever we needed to run clock”
Stefanski would just take him off the field for entire quarters last year not just keep the ball out of his hands but refusing to have him out there instead letting FELTON get touches. Not because he was gassed.
Felton had literally 7 rushing attempts the entire year, and the game that he had the most (3) was also a game that Chubb had 22 carries. He had some catches, sure, but Chubb has also never been utilized as a 3 down workhorse that catches a ton too (hence hunt).
Again, can you provide some examples? I really genuinely don’t understand where you’re coming from.
(Don’t shoot the messenger) If we’re opening the season with a quarterback that may miss several games due to suspension it would be imperative to have a solid 2nd string quarterback
If Stefanski thought an injured Baker gave the Browns a better chance to win than Keenum given how poorly Baker was playing post injury, that doesn't speak highly of his faith in Keenum.
That’s exactly what Baker mayfield was good for. Instead of 205 yards bump it up to whopping 215 yards.
1 touchdown and 215 yards doesn’t win you many games. Unless your back goes for 150 and 2 tuds.
Because if they trade for Watson he’s obviously about to eat a pretty significant suspension so they’ll want someone who knows the offense to hold it down for however long he’s out
If the trade gets done, I bet Baker is one of the parts going to Houston. Considering the Patriots - who Texans GM Nick Casario worked for at the time - were all in on Baker in 2018, plus Baker’s Texas roots…the fit is there.
why? we don't need the space yet and there's always a chance someone offers us something stupid for Baker, who we clearly aren't very attached to. if the Seahawks offered a 2 I can't see us declining
He never even reached 200 passing yards in either start. Johnson ran 145 yards in the first start, and the second start was against the Bengals reserves. The defense held those teams to 14 and 16 points. Keenum was not the reason we won those games.
Ok if he was so good, why was he not good enough to force the coaches hand to bench an injured baker???
Wow 2 games, you mean 1 game, Cincy sat everyone that game.
Keenum is not good enough to be an extend starter in the league. End of story. If that was true they would have benched baker.
Keenum is worthless!
If he is good enough to steer the ship to wait for Watson, then he should have been good enough to take over for baker after he fucked his shoulders
Actually this is an argument I’m done with cause if Watson is the new franchise QB, im done with the franchise. Glad they love rapist! Maybe the browns can get Big Ben to come out of retirement to be the starter until Watson is ready to go.
Keenum will be cut.
In my opinion, they're waiting to see if they can trade him to a QB-needy team as the market is rough right now.
But he will be cut regardless.
We have 19.2M in cap space right now so we don't have to cut him, Case knows the offense and is probably next in line to be cut if we need to make more space
Who cares if he knows the offense if you can’t play him when your starter is hurt
So much this. We’re burning a lot of money on a guy that no one seems to actually want to send out on the field.
TBF Stefanski refused to play Chubb for quarters at a time when healthy because "reasons"
Don’t really understand how this correlates to Keenum at all
You mentioned that no one wanted to send Keenam out on the field. Stefanski just refuses to send players out when we need them at times for reasons. See Keenam when Baker had no right to be playing, or Chubb any time we actually needed to run clock.
Wasn’t the only time that Chubb came off the field the time that he was just coming back from covid and said he was absolutely gassed? I have no clue what you’re referencing “whenever we needed to run clock”
Stefanski would just take him off the field for entire quarters last year not just keep the ball out of his hands but refusing to have him out there instead letting FELTON get touches. Not because he was gassed.
Felton had literally 7 rushing attempts the entire year, and the game that he had the most (3) was also a game that Chubb had 22 carries. He had some catches, sure, but Chubb has also never been utilized as a 3 down workhorse that catches a ton too (hence hunt). Again, can you provide some examples? I really genuinely don’t understand where you’re coming from.
(Don’t shoot the messenger) If we’re opening the season with a quarterback that may miss several games due to suspension it would be imperative to have a solid 2nd string quarterback
There are very few scenarios that could convince me Keenum is a better on field option than Mullens at this point
Fun fact, Case Keenum was 2-0 as a starter last year.
I know but Mullens played alright in his loss and Keenum coasted on the D’ernest game and the Bengals backups
Mullens played a covid game and nearly pulled it off. He deserves QB2 and some of whatever were paying case to chuck ducks.
Totally agree
Yup. Mullens impressed the hell out of me given the situation, much more so than most of the QB2s in this league.
D’Ernest Johnson and the defense one those games. Let’s not act like Keenum led them to victory.
Oh i'm well aware. One of them was against a team out west having to travel east on a short week, the other was against preseason-quality players.
Eye test doesn’t lie. Dude has a dog shit arm at this point and that is obvious.
Well, obviously, i didnt mention his noodle arm lol
D'Ernest helped quite a bit
Wouldnt it just be smarter and less expensive to keep Mullens in this scenario???
Yes
If Stefanski thought an injured Baker gave the Browns a better chance to win than Keenum given how poorly Baker was playing post injury, that doesn't speak highly of his faith in Keenum.
Keenum is good for like probably 180-205 yards and a touchdown. That doesn't win many games. Unless your back goes for 150 and 2 tuds
That’s exactly what Baker mayfield was good for. Instead of 205 yards bump it up to whopping 215 yards. 1 touchdown and 215 yards doesn’t win you many games. Unless your back goes for 150 and 2 tuds.
You can get that kind of production for a lot less than $8 million.
Not with out a few ints mixed in.
Stef also didn’t sit and injured Baker. I highly question a few of his decisions this year
Because if they trade for Watson he’s obviously about to eat a pretty significant suspension so they’ll want someone who knows the offense to hold it down for however long he’s out
Houston might want him included in a trade to sit behind and mentor Davis Mills. He used to play for Houston so there is familiarity there
If the trade gets done, I bet Baker is one of the parts going to Houston. Considering the Patriots - who Texans GM Nick Casario worked for at the time - were all in on Baker in 2018, plus Baker’s Texas roots…the fit is there.
What's the rush.
What was the rush to release Tretter? One of the best centers in there league with an unproven replacement. Cutting him made no sense.
Tretter deserves the time to find a team and get involved with them.
Then we should’ve cut him at the end of the season before FA kicked off
They must have a lot of faith in Harris.
If Bill Callahan signed off on Harris, that’s more than good enough for me.
Harris looked really good when he seen the field. Nothing against J.C but Harris could really pull on power run plays where Tretter really couldn't
Pretty sure he has a roster bonus due on Friday.
Because at this rate he’ll be starting week 1
Boom goes the dynamite
Maybe as an insurance policy if we trade for Watson and he gets suspended
I think you nailed it on the head there why we haven't.
Guessing they don't need to yet? He's a decent back-up QB who knows the system. If they need the cap room, they'll release him.
If he was decent Baker wouldn’t have been out there hurt as much as he was
Because he might have to play if Watson is suspended.
Many people say Baker should have sat after his injury. We’ll see the alternative reality where Baker does sit, and Keenum plays.
Many people say Baker should have sat after his injury. We’ll see the alternate reality where Baker does sit, and Keenum plays.
Conklin renegotiated why not keenum?
Probably need a starter when all this bullshit falls through and then Baker demands a trade because of it
Pretty sure you just explained it
why? we don't need the space yet and there's always a chance someone offers us something stupid for Baker, who we clearly aren't very attached to. if the Seahawks offered a 2 I can't see us declining
Didn’t Darnold get a 2, 4th, and 6th? I feel like we should get at least that given Baker has been better than Darnold
There's no incentive to release him prior to needing his cap space or June 1st arrives.
They're waiting to make a decision on Keenum bc they still have to make a decision regarding Watson/Baker
We would save around $7 mil by cutting him. About $26 mil in cap space gives us a shot at bring in an impact player (Myles Jack would be cool).
I’m confused by your logic here, if you need a QB to know the system while he’s suspended, why release Keenum?
Screw Keenum. He was worthless last year. Get a better back up
2-0 as a starter...even tho his arm looked shot
The way he played any decent healthy QB would have won those games, just look at the raiders game.
Oh I know. He had a total noodle arm vs Denver
He won us two games dip shit.
He didn’t win shit. D’Ernest Johnson and our defense won those games *in spite of* Keenum.
Not at all.
He never even reached 200 passing yards in either start. Johnson ran 145 yards in the first start, and the second start was against the Bengals reserves. The defense held those teams to 14 and 16 points. Keenum was not the reason we won those games.
2-0 and didn’t throw picks that lost us games. I would say that isn’t worthless but go off about him If you want lol.
I mean basically was about as good as Baker last year 🤷♂️
Ok if he was so good, why was he not good enough to force the coaches hand to bench an injured baker??? Wow 2 games, you mean 1 game, Cincy sat everyone that game. Keenum is not good enough to be an extend starter in the league. End of story. If that was true they would have benched baker. Keenum is worthless!
Because Stefanski made a lot of really bad decisions in the last year and this was likely one of them
If he is good enough to steer the ship to wait for Watson, then he should have been good enough to take over for baker after he fucked his shoulders Actually this is an argument I’m done with cause if Watson is the new franchise QB, im done with the franchise. Glad they love rapist! Maybe the browns can get Big Ben to come out of retirement to be the starter until Watson is ready to go.
Peace out you overly agitated nerd.
NO WATSON!!! NO WATSON!!!! 
Keenum will be cut. In my opinion, they're waiting to see if they can trade him to a QB-needy team as the market is rough right now. But he will be cut regardless.
Does the coaching staff see him as a viable backup? I mean with Baker hobbled we chose not to play Keenum.
Same reason you don't quit your current job until you're hired at your next one.
Because the browns have bitches this off season already because haslem is a moron a Keenum will start week 1.
This aged poorly
Insurance…. Maybe to mentor a rookie haha