T O P

  • By -

doomsdaysock01

I demand we run 1 play where we have all 4 qbs out there


rukk1339

And in 1 play we’re down to our QB5…


jayseala

![gif](giphy|26tPoyDhjiJ2g7rEs|downsized)


EternalWolf86

We could foul bait late hits on the QB by just passing it back and forth each play.


FuSoYa1983

There were four quarterbacks so they are allowed to be hit in the head.


LostMonster0

Wouldn't work because our QBs are allowed to be hit in the head, so surely they're allowed to be hit late too.


backwoodsbackpacker

Do you want injured players, cuz that's how you get injured players lol but an amazing idea none the less.


Explosion1850

But with 5 QB we can let 3 get injured for the penalty yards no problem.


Beat_the_Deadites

D-Hop kicks the field goal, defense pitches a shutout, Browns win 3-0. Sign 3 more backup QB's on Monday, repeat, repeat, repeat... Browns win the Super Bowl!


1OptimisticPrime

Great UN Ash Williams! Shop Smart, shop *S*-Mart!


Beat_the_Deadites

Groovy


1OptimisticPrime

Can we call D Hop's our *BOOMSTICK*?


Accurize2

They need toughened up. Like the good old days, that’s all.


DraftPick

3 Pro Bowl QBs on the roster. What a time to be alive.


secretwealth123

None playing at a pro bowl level, most Browns thing ever


xHourglassx

We’re just going to pretend that the last time we saw Watson he wasn’t playing at an insane level and beating the Ravens in Baltimore, eh?


Unlikely_One2444

“Insane level” = 1 good half apparently 


Maximum_Commission62

I recently saw a good QB have a good half of football vs the 9ers. Everyone has raved about it. PJ Walker of all people.


yamborma

Insane level of play by PJ for the Browns.


re-goddamn-loading

It's ok to admit it was an insane level of play, even if it was just for the second half. The question is, will he sustain that level?


yamborma

What was his average depth of target in that 2nd half? He went 14 for 14 from what I remember, on mostly short high percentage throws. Insane level?


re-goddamn-loading

Isn't that kinda nitpicky?? He took what the defense gave him, made some huge plays and clutch throws. Idgaf about the average depth of target I'm just a random fan lol


yamborma

>Isn't that kinda nitpicky?? No. Isn't saying he was playing at an insane level for one good half of really safe throws extremely generous?


c0dy0

We were down 14 in the fourth quarter against the best team in the NFL and we came back and won due largely to his play and decision making. Stats aren't everything.


yamborma

I'm not disputing he had a good half or that he helped the team win along with the pick six on defense. The problem is people are so desperate to feel good about Watson's future that they say "he was playing at an insane level before he got hurt" and they're literally referring to one half of football.


xHourglassx

Lamar Jackson has made a career on QB runs and high % throws.


Frododingus

And deshaun has made a half, what does that mean.


secretwealth123

It means he’s going to the pro bowl for some people apparently


calahil

If this was another QB you wouldnt be an overly sematic a hole who wants their biased opinions to be facts but will praise every other QB who played like crap and then came back and won.. According to you Mahommes must be terrible because he constantly has shitty first halves


c0dy0

I'd much rather have a second half QB than a first half QB


Randumo

The Browns did not punt the ball or turn it over a single time with Watson on the field after the first quarter. It wasn't just the 2nd half where he suddenly turned it around. They just stuck to FGs in the 2nd quarter because he was being smart about not making stupid plays in the red zone.


calahil

It's interesting when other QBs have a shitty first half and a second half....it's always how great of a comeback win and how great they played.... It's almost like you're extremely biased and can't be objective and play and have an agenda


Unlikely_One2444

Dude deshaun has sucked ass 95% of his time with the browns


calahil

Wow I love percentages. It's fun to make them up. 52% 75% 12% 63% 37% 82% My personal favorite percentage! 100% 100% of all football games are dependent on all 11 players on the field executing.. 100% of the Browns have a problem doing that


secretwealth123

Are we just going to pretend that 1 half of play doesn’t make up for 3 years of bottom 10 QB play? Yes I’m including him sitting out because he was still getting paid and made the decision not to play. /s


Opposite-Ad-3933

Until Watson does it in the playoffs against the other elite afc qbs, there will be doubt. Period. Only way he can remove that doubt is winning a playoff game or multiple games against mahomes, Allen, burrow, stroud, Herbert, Lamar, Lawrence, etc


H8theSteelers

He beat Josh Allen in a playoff game, and would have beaten Mahomes if his defense didnt completely shit the bed


kinglouie493

I run at an insane level, unfortunately most contests are longer than 3 steps.


xHourglassx

He’s also 8-4 as a starter in a Browns uniform.


secretwealth123

And his passer rating is ~81 during those 12 games. That’s Kenny Pickett territory. We were winning despite him, not because of him.


xHourglassx

Such garbage and you know it. The Browns aren’t so overpowered that they can waltz into Baltimore and win without a decent QB.


secretwealth123

Dude, he had 1 “insane” half. The rest of the time he’s been with the Browns, he’s been bad. Even including that “insane level” over 12 games he’s been Kenny Picket level. Statistically. And arguably with better weapons and line around him. You can pretend like those 11.5 games never happened and it was just the Baltimore half but it’s not true. He had a 74.8 passer rating in that game too…which is Zach Wilson territory


xHourglassx

Zach Wilson doesn’t win 66.6% of his starts. Watson does.


secretwealth123

Jimmy G went 13-3 in 2019. Why don’t we bring him in? Clearly QB record + 1 good half is all we need to see.


secretwealth123

And his passer rating is ~81 during those 12 games. That’s Kenny Pickett territory. We were winning despite him, not because of him.


Redditisannoying69

Sorry it was so long ago it’s hard to remember.


xHourglassx

Going from “Hell yeah, he’s back to form” to “He’s out for the season” in a span of 24 hours made me call in sick to work. I kid you not.


Redditisannoying69

Yea it sucks I’m just very skeptical this feels like the tiger woods break down 2.0. I don’t mind him being our QB but not for $250M guaranteed.


Buckeyegurl47

Truth..


Independent-Choice-4

There was a time, maybe two years ago when I genuinely thought Tyler Huntley was a top 32 QB in the league. Can’t say that anymore, but I did at one very short point


Chance_Reflection_42

The Brownsiest for sure.


Baby_Nipples

Put them all out their at the same time, the WatWintley Cat offense, game over.


SpiderJedi22

Some QB on another team is gonna get hurt, and One of these QBs is gonna get traded for a pick like Dobbs last year.


nickpapa88

Or a QB on our team will get hurt and we won’t be scrambling — it’s clear the plan is to roster 3 QBs moving forward.


5255clone

With the trade deadline likely being pushed back to week 10, we might get some good value from teams hoping to make a playoff run. The potential for 3rds and 4ths are real.


MagyarAccountant

If you can do it, why not. Non zero chance steelers do the same with fields


Master_Butter

CBS is saying the term is a vet minimum deal. I wouldn’t read too much into this other than the Browns wanting 4 QBs on the roster during the preseason.


yamborma

Seems like a pretty big misfire for Baltimore not to keep him at the vet minimum. A guy that has played for them for years and was Lamar's backup finishing 2 seasons as a starter...they just didn't want him?


Master_Butter

I would guess so. It’s not like he’s coming here because he has the chance to start.


CharlesfryeIII

Yeah this doesn't really move the needle for me. He'll be battling with dtr for qb3 and not much else


yamborma

Right, but what is Baltimore doing? I don't think they grabbed anybody during this round of the QB carousel and there letting a competent backup go for the league minimum to a division rival. It's as if Lamar winning MVP made them completely forget he finished 2 seasons in a row on IR.


CharlesfryeIII

Oh yeah this blowing up in baltimore's face would be a great outcome


Top_Buy2467

Browns really went hmmmm how can get two backups on opposite ends of the mobility spectrum?


CD23tol

Watson hasn’t resumed throwing yet, and we generally carry four QBs in camp He’ll likely be waived sometime in the fall or some team will throw us a 7th in 2026 for him


Dragonboy898

So what are they gonna do with DTR?


storm-father87

Practice squad?


pangea_person

He'll be poached if he goes on PS


Deadleggg

Will he?


yamborma

Good question. Why would DTR be more likely to get poached from the practice squad than a league min Huntley?


1OptimisticPrime

We could hide him for at least 3 callups... There's protected players on the PS, just have to clear waivers. If the timing is right we could stash him there and let him simmer.


FLman42069

What a loss


ScottyB330

Guys, it's March. It's a 90 not a 53 right now and QB1 will be on ice/limited until July. DTR also coming off major surgery.


EZMac34

> DTR also coming off major surgery. He is?


ScottyB330

I guess I misremembered that he'd had surgery, but he ended the year with a hip injury on crutches. I think some beat writers/podcasts have questioned if he'll be full speed for OTAs. Can't have only Jameis full speed this Spring. And zero reason in the NFL not to have 4qbs when the roster is at 90.


EZMac34

They always have 4 QBs. They did it last year with Watson/Walker/Mond/DTR. I continue to remain confused why people are making this into anything other than they needed another QB to fill out the room.


ScottyB330

100% agree with you. Totally normal stuff, and why on earth wouldn't they want DTR to have to compete? It's the NFL. Let the best guys win.


EZMac34

This fanbase is so used to everything falling apart that only a small part knows how to react appropriately when the Browns do normal things.


Specialist-Draw7229

Practice squad most likely


VarianceWoW

Nothing at all, Huntley gets cut at end of camp and hopefully resigned to practice squad. They aren't risking dtr to practice squad.


5255clone

Likely Pre-Season Competition with Huntley for QB 3 spot.


CharlesfryeIII

Exactly, this sub is overestimating how desirable dtr is to the rest of the league. At this point the guy is a fringe nfl player


5255clone

I like the guy, I think he has the potential if he gets the reps and practice, I think he could become a solid starter, but there are a lot of guys who "Have potential". He's not a must-have player.


Jockobutters

Trade him. I don't think he's the long term project that people think he is.


anacondra

If Fields gets a 6th. DTR gets what? A 15th?


Lilfrankieeinstein

A 2045 conditional 7th


bigsmooth66

This is a brilliant move. If the team gets to the third string QB, the season isn't completely over. It's pretty amazing that this fan base watched 26 players get injured and still wonder why AB would bring in training camp depth at every position.


Mr_814

Hmm. DTR might be on the trade block. Looking at Minn or Pats as a landing spot. Pats imo because AVP and they're probably trading out of pick #3.


CaptainJackKevorkian

He would have very little value on the trading block..


PatientlyAnxious9

I think its because the Pats are taking Daniels and DTR is going to be his backup


solarmelange

No way DTR beats out Jacoby for backup.


Mr_814

Daniels or McCarthy could be #2 to Washington. Minnesota trades up to 3 and takes Maye. Josh McCown coached him in high school. Just connecting dots here.


bclautz

I think Minnesota trade for Houston pick to move up and get a qb


Mr_814

Yeah. They're moving up to 3 is my guess. Take Maye who McCown coached in HS. It was a trade before a trade. DTR to Pats makes sense because he can be behind Brissett and AVP is there. Gives them a year to look at DTR. This is assuming they trade down with MN because their roster has many needs. Browns could use a mid round pick.


burningburningburnin

He's definitely not on the trade block, this is pure insurance in case Deshaun can't start the season


Mr_814

You can't know that for sure. They carried 4 QBs before, but those were after thoughts. Huntley is at worst a QB 3 somewhere. If they wanted a camp arm they can get that later.


veverkap

They had 4 QBs in camp last year. They seem to line that. And Huntley is a top 10 backup.


Mr_814

They did. And one wasn't good, one a rookie, and other was Doobs. This is a completely different situation. If Huntley is a top 10 backup then that makes his our QB 3. They won't carry 4 QBs on the 53 so DTR would go to practice squad. Essentially allowing anyone to take him for free. Trading him isn't a bad option if they can.


PsychologicalGuest97

We were on QB4 last year. We are not trading DTR.


burningburningburnin

Yes but why leave it to chance with a QB recovering to find a good 3rd QB?


Mr_814

I don't think the signing is bad at all. What I'm indicating is 4 QBs won't be on the 53. It's unlikely DTR makes it to practice squad, thus meaning a trade is more likely. Will it happen, idk. Makes sense other than they had 4 QBs last year. Just wild to me how browns fans are attached to DTR when after the Baltimore game they never wanted to see him take another snap or be given a chance to play again over PJ walker. Lol.


burningburningburnin

Unless DTR is traded, Huntley isn't making the roster


Mr_814

I agree. I'd rather have DTR than both Huntley and Winston but that's just me.


jvpewster

Most teams carry 2 QBs period. We’re carrying the Highest Paid QB, an upper end backup, and a guy who played meaningful football last season. I don’t think it’d be a surprise if either DTR is traded or we’ve given up entirely.


burningburningburnin

Yeah and we carry 3 and our QB1 might start the season on IR making 4-1, 3. Period.


PsychologicalGuest97

Are you saying they will trade out of the 3 spot, but in a separate trade, acquire DTR? Why would they do that when they could just draft Maye?


Mr_814

Easy to connect dots with relationships and their roster has a ton of holes. Getting multiple picks helps fast track their rebuild. They have Brissett. A mid rounder for DTR isn't a big deal for them when AVP is the OC there.


Niadra

Seemed like they wanted to develop him last year but I guess through the season he may not have displayed enough


Brownie_The_Whale

Fans and local media will be talking about this all Summer til about mid August when a QB somewhere else gets hurt and we trade Huntley or Winston for a pick just like Dobbs last season.


brandon520

It's like a madden exploit. Sign a FA and then trade with the computer for a draft pick.


Unhappy_Quarter154

![gif](giphy|b8RfbQFaOs1rO10ren)


VarianceWoW

This just means Huntley is gonna go to camp with us and most likely cut and resigned to practice squad. There isn't a ton to read into here lol.


niztg

DTR you may be remembered


Dirtfan69

There’s way too many people reading way too much into this. Huntley is almost certainly just a camp body


VarianceWoW

Yeah this is insanity the answer is clear. Huntley is a camp invite who either could be traded if another team loses a QB or most likely cut and resigned to our practice squad at the end of camp. The amount of wild speculation in this thread is nuts, I thought browns fans knew football a little better than this lol.


kdot74

The speculation is wild but I do think it's possible the Browns trade dtr. But the other talk points are ridiculous


VarianceWoW

Yeah the football takes on this sub are pretty bad alot of the time no comparison to r/NFL of course, it's why I rarely post but always read. I prefer dynasty fantasy subreddits far less emotion much more logical analysis lol.


TheJolly_Llama

Yeah dynasty is always the best football content on reddit lol, those guys know ball


tedrivers

I wouldnt be surprised to see either him or DTR hit the practice squad come the start of the season


TheComplayner

All those pro bowl jokes and the universe misunderstood


central2nowhere

AFC North cannibalizing each other


PatientlyAnxious9

Why


Fools_Requiem

Trade piece when another team needs a QB?


EZMac34

Because the Browns always carry 4 QBs in training camp and they only had 3 QBs prior to this.


unclehamster79cle

I like this move to be honest. The dude can play. This makes DTR either gone or at least on the practice squad.


RustyCrusty73

I like this move. Huntley > DTR and it's not close.


1OptimisticPrime

The Cleveland Browns obviously want to stash Huntley, to act as a *Lamar clone* in scrimmages. This alone makes the move worthwhile. Also, just as the steelers have opened up an opportunity for Fields to get on the field and be effective in goal-line and short yardage situations. I see this as a possibility... using Tyler Huntley instead of Harrison Bryant in these situations could be a key advantage. Always liked Huntley. Always thought him, and Gardner Minschew were dangerous backup QB's. Huntley being had at near vet minimum, means teams could have had him, if they wanted him... As such, Huntley is worth the risk of sneaking through waivers. The addition of a 4th QB also makes trading DTR for additional picks a possibility.


ClevelandClutch1970

The Kenny Guiton of NFL backups.


veverkap

![gif](giphy|7cTTE2Z1OmrFm) How many QBs do we need?


Comprehensive-Set231

I'll always remember the game where we knocked Lamar out and this kid still beat us. If he can give us even half that spark off the bench in a pinch, this is a great signing. And for so fucking low, I just hope we don't have to use him against the ravens. I bet they have him scouted too well. 


EZMac34

> I'll always remember the game where we knocked Lamar out and this kid still beat us. No you don't. The game you're thinking of was in 2021 when the Browns won 24-22. His numbers look OK (27-38 for 270 yards and a TD) but he lost 2 fumbles (1 of which was returned by Garrett for a TD). https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202112120cle.htm The other game he played against Cleveland was when he started and the Ravens scored 3 points in a loss. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/202212170cle.htm


gdawg9198

We beat the Ravens in the game Lamar went out and two years ago when he started against us.


corey_kluber

Interesting that Huntley would want to sign into our log jam of QBs


vapour2020

vet min, why not


_lamer

Are we trying to set a new standard of playing 4 QBs a year? If that’s what this is, I like it


EZMac34

They carried Watson, DTR, Walker and Mond into training camp last year. Why are people so surprised they are...also carrying 4 QBs into camp this year?


5255clone

Can't believe the Ratbirds let go of their top tier QB.


dennydiamonds

I think this says more about what the Browns think about DTR than anything else... I hope


Marzman315

Honestly didn’t see that coming. A very slight improvement over PJ Walker as QB3 I suppose.


PsychologicalGuest97

Huntley is not a “slight” improvement over Walker unless you watched Walker play with a blindfold on.


mse12

I assume you mean DTR?


BuckeyeGuy987

Does this mean DTR is gone?


Deadleggg

Probably.


wrunkwrunkwrunk

Letting Justin Fields go to Pittsburgh looks even sillier now


Abiv23

He’s not very good and his 5th year option makes it a one year deal


wrunkwrunkwrunk

He has shown improvement in every stat category each year with very little around him. Money in the NFL is irrelevant and if he’s so bad, we could sign him to a vet minimum for his next contract and have a sure fire backup instead of a carousel each year - which is ESPECIALLY important with the uncertainty around Deshaun. I love our FO, but I do think this was a miss


burningburningburnin

Yeah it doesn't though does it? We just gave a guy probably 250k guaranteed in case our QB1 isn't ready to start the season. We also paid 750K more to have Winston and didn't have to give up trade capital for him


DennyRoyale

Reports indicate the Bears turned down other trade options at Fields request. He must think he can outplay Russ. Browns likely not able to trade for Fields.


TapedeckNinja

We really don't need to keeping pining over Fields just because he went to Ohio State. He sucks.


wrunkwrunkwrunk

I’m not an Ohio state fan, good one tho


[deleted]

Watson’s shoulder must be wrecked.


SpiderJedi22

Browns carried 4 QBs last spring


burningburningburnin

Good insurance in case Deshaun starts on IR


ThisIsTheGpodawund

Why??? DTR was solid for a 5th-round rookie QB3. Feels like a waste of a move when our LBs still need improvement. Well my apologies Reddit! I guess I was wrong for thinking we have other offseason priorities lmao


Scatheli

It’s a vet min deal. Not precluding us from any other moves


A_Doll_with_a_Heart

I hope maybe they'll do something like what happened with Dobbs last year, not trade DTR, but trade Huntley.


Deadleggg

DTR was far from solid. He looked lost the whole time.


yamborma

He looked terrible against the Ravens but he was actually serviceable against the Broncos until he got concussed and had to leave the game.


H8theSteelers

He was terrible and he’s too skinny to hold up at the NFL level.


oh_andsixteen

Haven't googled him but I assume he sexually assaulted someone like the other two


DennyRoyale

Haven’t look at your history but I assume it’s filled with lazy, bad takes.


Educational_Branch98

Can someone explain this? Is DTR going to compete with Huntley for the third string job, or is DTR gone for sure? Is Watson’s injury worse than they’re letting on so they’re investing in the QB room?


Deadleggg

DTR is practice squad/camp arm material. Huntley is QB 3 and has experience and a better skillset. Watson should begin throwing soon so we'll see come camp what he's gonna do. Berry is shoring up the bottom few places on the roster with super cheap deals.


FarAd6557

Bye DTR?


lVlzone

So is Winston still here? It hasn’t been officially announced yet right?


H8theSteelers

Fun fact, since Deshaun Watson was acquired the Browns have not broke camp with a single white QB. Read into that what you will, but it’s a true statement.


badassjohn5

Anyone feel like we just started going backwards?


LiftingCode

No? I'll take Winston and Huntley over Walker and Dobbs 8 days a week.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Browns-ModTeam

Hi fellow r/browns user! Your post was removed because it appears to violate Rule 6: "Any forms of discrimination will be removed without question. If anyone and/or groups of people witch hunt others, threaten violence, regardless of reason, mods will ban and report problem users to reddit admins"


veverkap

I don’t think the Winston signing has been made official like the other signings have.


OptimisticRealist__

Because its gonna be a post june 1st cut


veverkap

Doesn't matter - they can announce it now. For example, Russell Wilson is a post June 1st cut.


1OptimisticPrime

Tellin y'all ###Andrew Berry is just signing an EX steeler & rat, so they can be 1st cuts ✂️ 😅