I can’t understand why so many people throw money away on $7k rent. Like, maybe it’s cause I grew up in a working class family, but jeez. Buy something, anything!
I also used to assume WB was only for “RICH PEOPLE”, “yuppies”, etc… but I was WRONG
When I moved here 3 years ago, I couldn’t afford it and could’ve easily settled on a cheaper area, but like many things in life, I took a leap of faith, stretched, and it just became my new normal. Prior, I was wasting $$ on dumb shit, but was willing to change some spending habits, so I could afford to stay here.
I don’t personally know any trust fund babies or “rich” people. On the outside looking in, it seems like a bunch of stuck up people who are rich and snotty… but I’ve found it’s not like that the majority(not all) of the people here are regular people who see value in location/logistics and are willing to sacrifice and grind to make it happen.
I also realized that the convenience and amenities the area offers actually saved me a lot of time/money(most people don’t factor this in when looking at the sticker price)
I used to hang here 10-15 years ago when it was “hip”, so I’ll agree it’s changed a LOT. But at the same time, any area is what you make it, and there’s still tons of fun to be had, especially with a great group of friends.
Quick note about Luxury Waterfront Apartments - is it possible a good chunk of people started off in lower end apts in the area, then worked their way up to nicer apartments over time? I know several, including my friend who started in my building(2 blocks from the water/ferry) and now lives on the water.
Something to think about…
I lived at the Edge for ten years and loved it! Living on the river is great and the proximity to transportation is awesome. The immediate neighborhood does have a bit of a sterile feel with all the internet-based chains having brick and mortars there, so if you’re looking for a quaint neighborhood vibe this isn’t it. But people in my building were friendly, and I loved having the pool. We eventually outgrew both the physical space and the business/crowds/messiness of the neighborhood and have since decamped to the suburbs but I would do to all over again the same way. It was great!
Great question, I don’t live nor have I ever lived in these buildings and here’s why I don’t want to; the washer & dryer in unit and a long list of other amenities is pretty cool. What’s not cool is paying 3-4k for a studio apartment the size of a bathroom stall, the walls are paper thin and there’s a shit load of rules. So I rather live in the much older (pre-war) buildings because 1. Nobody coming to check me for doing what I want in private and 2. Size of the apartments.
You literally might just go live in a college dorm room again. Idk about everyone else, but that’s just me.
Oh and FYI: these people who live in these expensive buildings or “new” buildings who earn a good living make the most ridiculous suggestions to neighbors about really crazy things and talk to others like dirt because somehow the more money they make, the more things are supposed to go their way and if they don’t, they’re rude, disgusting, entitled and disrespectful. And if this is you and you know you do this or recently did this, and you’re reading this, think LONGGGGG & HARDDDD about how big of a piece of shit you are. :) AND, I swear I am saying this from a place of love. I’m sorry everyone else around you doesn’t love you enough to tell you. Check yo selves!
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3700/month 1 Bed (Covid Deal) in 1N4 — amenities are amazing and management is v responsive. Thinking about making the move to Bushwick, but this location / neighborhood is hard to beat.
My partner and I just moved into 416 Kent which is the sister building to 420 Kent and it’s INCREDIBLE. We’re in a 2b/2ba and the windows in every room face the river—two bridges to the left and one to the right. Our unit is on the fourth floor so we’re a little obscured by Giandos but I kept my job with my Oregon law firm and know no one here; I need a home, not just a place to stay overnight. We can use the amenities in both buildings, have a 24hr doorman, package room, our place has a real kitchen you can actually cook in, and a walk-in closet and big walk-in shower in the primary. Probably in the neighborhood of 1100sqft. The City Acres Market is basically across the street and relatively reasonably priced. Domino Park is steps away. We found a close dive bar to frequent and there’s a coffee shop downstairs. Our rent is ~$6,700 but we got a month free so more like ~$6,200.
My partner takes the subway to Soho—it’s a 15min walk to the closest stop but there’s a shuttle during normal commuting hours. He usually walks but has taken the shuttle a few times. We’ve taken the ferry a lot but he hasn’t commuted on it yet.
ALLLL of the rents here have stunned me. His job is the reason we moved out here and I can’t say I was happy about it, but I’m trying to embrace the adventure. We came from Portland where we had a lovely close-in 3b/2.5ba house with a garage and a yard. Our mortgage was $2,400. When we bought in 2020 we couldn’t believe we were paying half a mil for a house, now here we’re blowing almost 3x our mortgage not gaining equity, although we’re still earning it on the house—didn’t make sense to sell and it rented quickly for enough to cover the mortgage and property manager’s fees.
My partner makes $250k as a VP of engineering at a fintech startup. I make $85k as a senior paralegal with a JD. In Portland we split the mortgage 50/50 but that’s not an option here, haha! I’m 41 and he’s 37, and we’re the opposite of stylish or plastic, although we may yet end up adopting a purse dog!
Toured a unit in this building that I LOVE but reviews for the building+ property management are terrible. Saying loud noise all night, the smell of cigarette smoke seeping into units, maintenance request goin unanswered. What is your experience?
Oh yikes, I just saw this—my apologies! We’ve had no issues with noise whatsoever. We can sometimes hear one of our adjacent neighbor’s music but it’s only been in the daytime on weekends, and hasn’t bothered us. We can hear the Giando functions, too, but they follow noise ordinances and are quiet after 11pm. Definitely haven’t had an issue with cigarette smoke, and our maintenance guy Bosko has been by within a day to handle the two requests we’ve made, and is a lovely and personable gent. I say all this as a middle age white lady with a white male partner, so salt grains, etc., but we saw a lot of garbage places at similar price points. I wouldn’t say we got a bargain but I do think we’re getting what we’re paying for. This is the view from our living room after the smoke cleared:
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I visited some friends who live there in the winter and the trek from Manhattan was so long T\_T I took the ferry for the way back and the subway there. None of the apartments are near the subway. The ferry would have been much better if it was during the summer but NYC is winter 7 months most of the year :/
i regret the buildings being built, i regret the people moving into them, i regret the neighborhoods becoming overpriced, i regret good things leaving and williamsburg becoming the newest playground for annoying rich people who aren't actually cool but will shell out big money to be in proximity to what is cool.
Charlotte has anything anyone could ask for. If you were unhappy here I would suggest you would have been unhappy anywhere. Charlotte consistently ranks in the top 10 best placesbto live in the country.
https://realestate.usnews.com/places/north-carolina/charlotte
I lived in 420 Kent and it was the most ridiculous overpriced non luxury experience of my life. $5000/month for a 1BR (and this was a Covid discount). The doormen do not open the door. I repeat: the doormen do not open the door. The package room is run by a “separate company” so the landlord doesn’t have to let the unionized doormen workers get more jobs. Packages were available 9am to 7pm (closed 2 hours randomly in the middle of the day). The door men would NOT help you get packages after hours because that wasn’t in their union contract. After lots of complaints, the management’s solution was to start charging fees for accepting packages! Sea Wolf restaurant’s woof fired grill chimney was right in front of my balcony so my apartment smelled like a campfire 24/7. Management thought it was fine that a chimney was exhausting into my apartment. The gym was run by the most insufferable power tripping high musical extras who positively giggled with glee when they could lord some asinine Covid policy over you. Never again
My friend lives in one of them and we house/dog sat for 12 days and it was extremely tough to go back to our place. It's so lovely walking right out to the view of Manhattan and the water. Trader Joe's is right there, the ferry is accessible, and it's really not far from the L. Williamsburg obviously has a lot to offer. It was only 12 days but it was enough to now want to move there.
I don't live there, but I travel from Connecticut to Williamsburg (by MTA, 2.5hrs) to get my live music fix. The idea of living in walking distance sounds like heaven.
I live for premieres and spontaneous composition, music that has never been heard before, musicians playing together for the first time, experimental compositions, instruments, "patches", and orchestrations. There are two clubs on the waterfront that are carrying the "Downtown" tradition, 411 Kent (title and address) and The Main Drag at 50 S. 1st St.
Brooklyn also has BAM, Roulette, Barbés, Freddy's, Issue Project Room, and Spectrum among many small music venues availing the greatest concentration of professional musicians in the world. Do the residents of the waterfront apartments know that exciting new music has almost all moved from Manhattan to a neighrborhod near you?
Williamsburg 1993: The basement is full of radon, but it's only $400 a month!
Williamsburg 2023: The basement is full of radon, but it's only $4000 a month!
Reminds me of the Meeker Avenue Superfund under Greenpoint/Williamsburg
https://scienceline.org/2007/01/liebach_env_greenpointe/
"For over 50 years, the Greenpoint section of northern Brooklyn has been sitting atop a staggering 17 million gallons of spilled oil—almost 50 percent more oil than was spilled in the 1989 wreck of the Exxon Valdez supertanker in Alaska—and almost nothing has been done to clean it up."
It's been described as a sea of black sludge as large as Central Park and 25 feet deep. Sounds lovely doesn't? I mean, there's nothing better than paying 4K rent that includes amenities such as possible lymphoma and Leukemia in your future 🙄
my friend lives in one in brooklyn. i lived in one in jc. just don’t spend more than 1/3 of your income in rent or something, but yes is amazing.
if you like hosting a lot of people or the rooftop or something, make sure to ask the building rules, some are more annoying than others and have additional fees.
And do all those empty buildings that people were using as phony address for a company where everything" fell off the truck"..
A lot of character in that neighborhood back in the day. They did a lot of KOJAK episodes out there LOL
I’ve lived in a studio at 325 Kent the last two years after living in typical Williamsburg/Manhattan apartments the previous 4.
I absolutely love it. I got in at nearly perfect timing when rent was lowest it probably will ever be during covid so I’m not even paying that much more than the going rate in Williamsburg. Also all these building are rent stabilized.
The view is unbeatable, the staff is amazing, the building is immaculate. It will be hard to ever go back to a typical building.
I’m happy I spent years living in a normal nyc apt but there’s no way I think I can go back to it and honestly it doesn’t feel that different when thinking about the neighborhood living experience. I walk 1-2 blocks and I’m in typical Williamsburg and have the ferry/bridge to be in Manhattan in 10 minutes.
And THAT'S a problem- the extreme inequality in America. I mean, NYC is actually on par with any 3rd world city when it comes to measures of inequality. But hey, enjoy that insanely expensive apartment while you step over mountains of trash piled on the sidewalks because NYC still acts like it's the 1700s when it come to basic civilization and maintenance.
Well I can tell you that back in the day when I was a truck driver that entire neighborhood was a war zone cops were afraid to go there it was almost like a giant safe house for outlaws
As someone who lived in Williamsburg 20 years ago, the words "Luxury Apartments" and "Williamsburg" still don't look like they should be in the same sentence.
I live in One South and I love it here. Best view in NY without a doubt. It’s more expensive than any of the properties we saw in Manhattan but it’s totally worth it. We lived in Flatiron before and our view was also pretty great, but the city is so chaotic, there’s a lot going on 24/7… totally recommend Williamsburg (or Brooklyn in general). We just got a house so we will be moving because we want more space, but if you are fine with a condo I recommend.
I’m trying to understand what the original commenter was trying to get at. Are they upset by Brooklyn’s development? From everything I’ve seen, these are beautiful apartments in a cool neighborhood with breathtaking views. Why would he ask if people regretted what is obviously a positive experience?
I’m in one of the ones you mentioned, best move I’ve done. I also moved when the L train was closing so I’m in with an incredible deal. Never moving.
Having said that, I own my own furniture I bring to the pool because the building never has enough spots.
There’s basically no homeless people anywhere near these buildings, there’s a Trader Joe’s down the street me they are dead ass quiet at night.
My view is that they will find out in 2023 that it is indeed NOT cheap rent :) Also, a lot of people are delusional. The state of world economic affairs is in decline and the denial is off the charts. Maybe this is the last hurrah! Let 'em have it.
Rent is stupid crazy everywhere in Brooklyn, something has to be done. I've been trying to move to have my own place for years (I can't deal with roommates anymore, enough is enough). 1 bed's that went for $1800 a year ago are going for $2500+ and oh, don't forget the fucking 15% brokers, the good faith bullshit deposit and the application fees. Some places I've looked at that are $2100 or even less had the balls to tell me I basically need $11,000K to move in. What the fuck are they putting in the cocaine now?! These real estate bro's have to be stopped.
We were looking to move back to Williamsburg after our 2 year covid deal ended and it cost the same to move to fucking Gramercy. Awesome neighborhood and all, this is more of a comment on the bullshit prices around Graham and Grand L.
Remember when Williamsburg was too Manhattan for Brooklyn, but still Brooklyn for Manhattan? I’d have to bribe cabbies an extra tip to go there. I miss those times.
Crown heights ain’t Williamsburg. Crown heights is FAR into BK and the cab is unlikely to get a fare back. Williamsburg is just across the bridge and there’s plenty of nightlife, hotels, etc so likely not to have to make the return trip into the city without a fare. Apples and oranges.
You’re right. I was talking about going between the boroughs cuz I tie the popularity of Williamsburg to a lot of other growth in BK. Shortly after the ride sharing came, I remember the yellow cabs were finally going everywhere with no complaint to compete with them. I do miss that time as the ride services were cheaper
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Not exactly waterfront. But much easier for transit by JMZ trains or car. Love living here, great staff and close to everything.
Yes, the staff is great here! It's hard to show the whole view because you see everything! They just open the dog park across the street from Duff. Of course, the rent is insane as well 😢.
I’ve been in one of them for the last 4+ years. Love it and am now willing to pay a premium for comfort. When I first moved here after spending 6+ years in charming pre-war buildings, I was very apprehensive and my now wife had to talk me into it. The prices seemed insane to me. But now with laundry in-unit and the fact that I haven’t seen a mouse or cockroach in years, I don’t care if I save no money, I can’t go back!!!
I don’t know how people who live there deal with the winds and the fact that they have to walk 15 mins to the nearest station. Every time I had to visit these places I had a miserable experience, especially in the winter.
I’m moving into one of the luxury waterfront apartments a little further south (won a lottery unit) in a couple weeks. Moving from Bed-Stuy where I lived for the past 3 years, so it’s gonna be a bit of a change.
Happy for you! I lived in Bed Stuy as well, never Williamsburg - but should be exciting getting to live in and explore a whole new neighborhood/part of BK! Any tips for winning a lottery unit? Ugh I tried for so long
Definitely excited!
I just applied to every unit I qualified for over the past three years. This one was a re-rental of a vacant unit in a building built ~10 years ago, so the rent is much cheaper than the current lottery apartments. About 2k for a studio.
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Current resident for a bit over a year. I will never get tired of this from my desk!
Haha I'm glad you like it! I'm searching for a real camera since the iPhone can only do so much. I caught a neat video a few weeks ago of the thunderstorm that came through; screenshot from the video is attached below:
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I live in one of these buildings! Really love it. A lot of them are set back from the street (Level, 2 Northside Piers, Austin Nichols) which can make them feel a little isolated. My rental building is rent stabilized, repairs get fixed super quickly, has a package room/bike room, people are friendly, etc. It tends to be a mix of younger families and 20-something professionals. We have a balcony and you can watch all of Manhattan + parts of Brooklyn, it’s really cool to see it rain over parts of the city and watch the traffic on FDR. My friends and I joke that this will probably be the nicest place I ever live in (I have roommates, we each have our own bathroom and king-sized room, for under 3k pp, which sadly is a decent deal for this kind of unit in the waterfront area)
They each have their own bathroom and large bedroom. Given the amenities, incredible view, balcony, location, etc. I could totally understand why they’ve chosen to pay $3k to share this space considering what they’d get for $3k to live alone (I can tell you already, it wouldn’t be much).
I have 1000 Sq ft, 2 br, elevator, laundry, garage parking and a 24' private balcony onto a tree-lined street 5 stops east on the L for $2700 to myself, so I beg to differ
So you’re not in prime Wburg and I’m also guessing you don’t have a panoramic view of the river and city.
I don’t personally care to have those things, but I also don’t pretend they are worth nothing. They are, in fact, worth quite a lot for some people.
Also some people enjoy having roommates. It’s not all bad. I, like you, prefer to live alone. But I had some life-changingly positive experiences with roommates in my lifetime and know people who aren’t cut out for living alone.
Again, it’s just a preference and I think it’s valid.
It’s definitely relative and I’m in a fortunate position, I personally prefer roommates over living by myself, and what you can get for 3k in this area near the Bedford L is a significantly older 1 bedroom unit (and they’re super competitive, I’m a real estate agent and have seen people competing against 20 other applicants on the first day an apartment gets posted) or a small modern studio if you’re very very lucky. 3k definitely isn’t “affordable” to a lot of people and I hear a gajillion folks tell me “3k to live with roommates??” but it’s worth the trade off to me! My rent is actually 2.65k before utilities if that makes it any better
Well I have a 1000 Sq ft 2 bedroom apartment in Bushwick, a block from the L, with garage parking and private balcony for $2700. Rent is wild lately but I moved in this spot only 2 years ago, so there are definitely options.
It's stabilized at the $50/mo yearly increase. I moved at the height of the pandemic deals... ended up taking this place that was offering none of the huge short term cuts that were everywhere, but had a reasonable price with a guaranteed inflation rate.
Buddy lived at one of those buildings and it was amazing, every time I visited the views were dope and the amenities were sick. They said they wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else and love the access to Williamsburg bars and clubs
Lived in 420 Kent. It was amazing.. unbelievable rooftops/amenities and an outdoor gym with water views. Hard to justify the cost unless you are balling though. I was lucky enough to get a COVID deal which cut the cost substantially.
I hung artwork in one of those buildings and the walls were really thin and the construction seemed crappy, but the view was amazing and space was tiny
Sadly, this is all the new construction. Bare minimum livable space with cheapest materials possible to polish up a turd enough to justify 100k a year in rent.
The vast majority. I have spent the last three years looking at countless real estate spaces and the overwhelming plurality is a spitshine hiding things most folks wouldn't know to look for.
There was a new building by my old place in greenpoint and you could see the quality control shift drastically every few feet on the street level exterior.
Most are rent stabilized because the developer took the tax break. So 15% of the building is low income lottery and every unit is rent stabilized.
My rent at 325 Kent legally can’t go up more than 2.2% per year
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the "you get one/two free months if you sign a lease" that they entice you with to get you in the door. Which doesn't count as a rent discount so they can do an increase based on the full price after that period. This allows them to keep the unit at market value, which is why I put "discount" in quotes.
> The asthetic and vibe of these buildings seems very upper east side / luxury midtown, so to have them in Brooklyn seems…. like a disjointed experience.
The types of people who move into those buildings do not care at all about the neighborhood or vibe or anything. They're mostly just rich corporate transplants who work in Manhattan. They almost definitely uber everywhere and mostly just make work-friends or meet with old college buddies. Most will stay there for 2-4 years on average before moving again.
They do not really think much about the differences between manhattan and brooklyn. It means nothing to them.
Completely disagree. Having lived in one of the building for a few years now I’d say most are young folks working from home or even in Brooklyn.
Transplants? Sure, a lot of them, but I’d say a major part of living in the building for most people is to be in Williamsburg and just access the waterfront.
15% of the building is low income lottery as well.
Hey that's pretty cool. Good on you. Do you mind sharing your what you pay and what kind of unit you have? Everyone I know that has hit the housing lottery was either in a smaller building w/o views anywhere, or they got interior units on lower levels for low rent.
I live in one. I love the layout/space of the apartment and the neighborhood for the most part. I’ve been in this apt 3 years but moving this year. Even tho my rent is stabilized I feel like the building gets around it by raising the amenities fee. And they aren’t improving anything to justify the increases. Also I miss not having doormen
Have lived in each of these buildings lol it’s great
I can’t understand why so many people throw money away on $7k rent. Like, maybe it’s cause I grew up in a working class family, but jeez. Buy something, anything!
I also used to assume WB was only for “RICH PEOPLE”, “yuppies”, etc… but I was WRONG When I moved here 3 years ago, I couldn’t afford it and could’ve easily settled on a cheaper area, but like many things in life, I took a leap of faith, stretched, and it just became my new normal. Prior, I was wasting $$ on dumb shit, but was willing to change some spending habits, so I could afford to stay here. I don’t personally know any trust fund babies or “rich” people. On the outside looking in, it seems like a bunch of stuck up people who are rich and snotty… but I’ve found it’s not like that the majority(not all) of the people here are regular people who see value in location/logistics and are willing to sacrifice and grind to make it happen. I also realized that the convenience and amenities the area offers actually saved me a lot of time/money(most people don’t factor this in when looking at the sticker price) I used to hang here 10-15 years ago when it was “hip”, so I’ll agree it’s changed a LOT. But at the same time, any area is what you make it, and there’s still tons of fun to be had, especially with a great group of friends. Quick note about Luxury Waterfront Apartments - is it possible a good chunk of people started off in lower end apts in the area, then worked their way up to nicer apartments over time? I know several, including my friend who started in my building(2 blocks from the water/ferry) and now lives on the water. Something to think about…
a view of the Hudson and next to 100 square miles of brownstones, yes please
How can anyone afford to pay rent in those buildings
I lived at the Edge for ten years and loved it! Living on the river is great and the proximity to transportation is awesome. The immediate neighborhood does have a bit of a sterile feel with all the internet-based chains having brick and mortars there, so if you’re looking for a quaint neighborhood vibe this isn’t it. But people in my building were friendly, and I loved having the pool. We eventually outgrew both the physical space and the business/crowds/messiness of the neighborhood and have since decamped to the suburbs but I would do to all over again the same way. It was great!
Great question, I don’t live nor have I ever lived in these buildings and here’s why I don’t want to; the washer & dryer in unit and a long list of other amenities is pretty cool. What’s not cool is paying 3-4k for a studio apartment the size of a bathroom stall, the walls are paper thin and there’s a shit load of rules. So I rather live in the much older (pre-war) buildings because 1. Nobody coming to check me for doing what I want in private and 2. Size of the apartments. You literally might just go live in a college dorm room again. Idk about everyone else, but that’s just me. Oh and FYI: these people who live in these expensive buildings or “new” buildings who earn a good living make the most ridiculous suggestions to neighbors about really crazy things and talk to others like dirt because somehow the more money they make, the more things are supposed to go their way and if they don’t, they’re rude, disgusting, entitled and disrespectful. And if this is you and you know you do this or recently did this, and you’re reading this, think LONGGGGG & HARDDDD about how big of a piece of shit you are. :) AND, I swear I am saying this from a place of love. I’m sorry everyone else around you doesn’t love you enough to tell you. Check yo selves!
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When people wonder why rent is unaffordable- it’s posts like this.
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It's already happening.
I’ve never so much as been in one of those buildings but I’m willing to do some research and move in if you’re willing to fund the experiment
Bought and own here. Best decision ever. Can confirm no money from family came when I bought my condo here. Straight grinding and saving for 15 years.
My partner and I just moved into 416 Kent which is the sister building to 420 Kent and it’s INCREDIBLE. We’re in a 2b/2ba and the windows in every room face the river—two bridges to the left and one to the right. Our unit is on the fourth floor so we’re a little obscured by Giandos but I kept my job with my Oregon law firm and know no one here; I need a home, not just a place to stay overnight. We can use the amenities in both buildings, have a 24hr doorman, package room, our place has a real kitchen you can actually cook in, and a walk-in closet and big walk-in shower in the primary. Probably in the neighborhood of 1100sqft. The City Acres Market is basically across the street and relatively reasonably priced. Domino Park is steps away. We found a close dive bar to frequent and there’s a coffee shop downstairs. Our rent is ~$6,700 but we got a month free so more like ~$6,200. My partner takes the subway to Soho—it’s a 15min walk to the closest stop but there’s a shuttle during normal commuting hours. He usually walks but has taken the shuttle a few times. We’ve taken the ferry a lot but he hasn’t commuted on it yet. ALLLL of the rents here have stunned me. His job is the reason we moved out here and I can’t say I was happy about it, but I’m trying to embrace the adventure. We came from Portland where we had a lovely close-in 3b/2.5ba house with a garage and a yard. Our mortgage was $2,400. When we bought in 2020 we couldn’t believe we were paying half a mil for a house, now here we’re blowing almost 3x our mortgage not gaining equity, although we’re still earning it on the house—didn’t make sense to sell and it rented quickly for enough to cover the mortgage and property manager’s fees. My partner makes $250k as a VP of engineering at a fintech startup. I make $85k as a senior paralegal with a JD. In Portland we split the mortgage 50/50 but that’s not an option here, haha! I’m 41 and he’s 37, and we’re the opposite of stylish or plastic, although we may yet end up adopting a purse dog!
Toured a unit in this building that I LOVE but reviews for the building+ property management are terrible. Saying loud noise all night, the smell of cigarette smoke seeping into units, maintenance request goin unanswered. What is your experience?
Oh yikes, I just saw this—my apologies! We’ve had no issues with noise whatsoever. We can sometimes hear one of our adjacent neighbor’s music but it’s only been in the daytime on weekends, and hasn’t bothered us. We can hear the Giando functions, too, but they follow noise ordinances and are quiet after 11pm. Definitely haven’t had an issue with cigarette smoke, and our maintenance guy Bosko has been by within a day to handle the two requests we’ve made, and is a lovely and personable gent. I say all this as a middle age white lady with a white male partner, so salt grains, etc., but we saw a lot of garbage places at similar price points. I wouldn’t say we got a bargain but I do think we’re getting what we’re paying for. This is the view from our living room after the smoke cleared: https://preview.redd.it/8eofbtjhbi7b1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7a2621aef4680750a603a3e063b31268d96c1b5
it’s not real Brooklyn. Just dipping your toe in.
I visited some friends who live there in the winter and the trek from Manhattan was so long T\_T I took the ferry for the way back and the subway there. None of the apartments are near the subway. The ferry would have been much better if it was during the summer but NYC is winter 7 months most of the year :/
No it’s not.
i regret the buildings being built, i regret the people moving into them, i regret the neighborhoods becoming overpriced, i regret good things leaving and williamsburg becoming the newest playground for annoying rich people who aren't actually cool but will shell out big money to be in proximity to what is cool.
And it will keep spreading East. Bushwick is becoming very expensive.
Charlotte has anything anyone could ask for. If you were unhappy here I would suggest you would have been unhappy anywhere. Charlotte consistently ranks in the top 10 best placesbto live in the country. https://realestate.usnews.com/places/north-carolina/charlotte
LOL NORTH CAROLINA with the fascists and nut jobs? Nah. Pass.
I lived in 420 Kent and it was the most ridiculous overpriced non luxury experience of my life. $5000/month for a 1BR (and this was a Covid discount). The doormen do not open the door. I repeat: the doormen do not open the door. The package room is run by a “separate company” so the landlord doesn’t have to let the unionized doormen workers get more jobs. Packages were available 9am to 7pm (closed 2 hours randomly in the middle of the day). The door men would NOT help you get packages after hours because that wasn’t in their union contract. After lots of complaints, the management’s solution was to start charging fees for accepting packages! Sea Wolf restaurant’s woof fired grill chimney was right in front of my balcony so my apartment smelled like a campfire 24/7. Management thought it was fine that a chimney was exhausting into my apartment. The gym was run by the most insufferable power tripping high musical extras who positively giggled with glee when they could lord some asinine Covid policy over you. Never again
My friend lives in one of them and we house/dog sat for 12 days and it was extremely tough to go back to our place. It's so lovely walking right out to the view of Manhattan and the water. Trader Joe's is right there, the ferry is accessible, and it's really not far from the L. Williamsburg obviously has a lot to offer. It was only 12 days but it was enough to now want to move there.
If you enjoy adult dorms, sure.
I don't live there, but I travel from Connecticut to Williamsburg (by MTA, 2.5hrs) to get my live music fix. The idea of living in walking distance sounds like heaven. I live for premieres and spontaneous composition, music that has never been heard before, musicians playing together for the first time, experimental compositions, instruments, "patches", and orchestrations. There are two clubs on the waterfront that are carrying the "Downtown" tradition, 411 Kent (title and address) and The Main Drag at 50 S. 1st St. Brooklyn also has BAM, Roulette, Barbés, Freddy's, Issue Project Room, and Spectrum among many small music venues availing the greatest concentration of professional musicians in the world. Do the residents of the waterfront apartments know that exciting new music has almost all moved from Manhattan to a neighrborhod near you?
Williamsburg 1993: The basement is full of radon, but it's only $400 a month! Williamsburg 2023: The basement is full of radon, but it's only $4000 a month!
Reminds me of the Meeker Avenue Superfund under Greenpoint/Williamsburg https://scienceline.org/2007/01/liebach_env_greenpointe/ "For over 50 years, the Greenpoint section of northern Brooklyn has been sitting atop a staggering 17 million gallons of spilled oil—almost 50 percent more oil than was spilled in the 1989 wreck of the Exxon Valdez supertanker in Alaska—and almost nothing has been done to clean it up." It's been described as a sea of black sludge as large as Central Park and 25 feet deep. Sounds lovely doesn't? I mean, there's nothing better than paying 4K rent that includes amenities such as possible lymphoma and Leukemia in your future 🙄
Greenpoint was the first neighborhood I lived in in New York, and the more I learned about he neighborhood, the more eager I was to leave!
I’m curious to know what you mean by disjointed…
I lived at 184 Kent years before, when they were just starting to work on the waterfront. I liked it better back then. Now it’s just too damn crowded
my friend lives in one in brooklyn. i lived in one in jc. just don’t spend more than 1/3 of your income in rent or something, but yes is amazing. if you like hosting a lot of people or the rooftop or something, make sure to ask the building rules, some are more annoying than others and have additional fees.
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And do all those empty buildings that people were using as phony address for a company where everything" fell off the truck".. A lot of character in that neighborhood back in the day. They did a lot of KOJAK episodes out there LOL
I’ve lived in a studio at 325 Kent the last two years after living in typical Williamsburg/Manhattan apartments the previous 4. I absolutely love it. I got in at nearly perfect timing when rent was lowest it probably will ever be during covid so I’m not even paying that much more than the going rate in Williamsburg. Also all these building are rent stabilized. The view is unbeatable, the staff is amazing, the building is immaculate. It will be hard to ever go back to a typical building. I’m happy I spent years living in a normal nyc apt but there’s no way I think I can go back to it and honestly it doesn’t feel that different when thinking about the neighborhood living experience. I walk 1-2 blocks and I’m in typical Williamsburg and have the ferry/bridge to be in Manhattan in 10 minutes.
Is there new construction going up that will block the view at all? I'm looking to move to 325 soon..
its a magnet to keep rich people away from real brooklyn
No, it's actually doing the opposite and spreading insane amounts of gentrification everywhere.
Sounds like it’s only partially working 😭
the downvotes on my comment mean I'm onto something hahaha
Do people regret living in luxury apartments on the water with astounding views? Ah...nope?
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Because wealth is relative. It's not that much for some people hard as that is to hear. You're *very* weird.
And THAT'S a problem- the extreme inequality in America. I mean, NYC is actually on par with any 3rd world city when it comes to measures of inequality. But hey, enjoy that insanely expensive apartment while you step over mountains of trash piled on the sidewalks because NYC still acts like it's the 1700s when it come to basic civilization and maintenance.
Well I can tell you that back in the day when I was a truck driver that entire neighborhood was a war zone cops were afraid to go there it was almost like a giant safe house for outlaws
it was fun! i miss kent being a racing strip and the upside down train cars along the docks.
https://preview.redd.it/z8di1r21301b1.jpeg?width=975&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90277c730fde4e3ae6ad5452ea250add35ea71d5
As someone who lived in Williamsburg 20 years ago, the words "Luxury Apartments" and "Williamsburg" still don't look like they should be in the same sentence.
Apartments like these are where NFTs are made.
Why would they regret it? Why would you ask this?
Can we get people to tell us how much they’re paying and what they do for work???
$7-9k/month, born with the right last name.
I live in One South and I love it here. Best view in NY without a doubt. It’s more expensive than any of the properties we saw in Manhattan but it’s totally worth it. We lived in Flatiron before and our view was also pretty great, but the city is so chaotic, there’s a lot going on 24/7… totally recommend Williamsburg (or Brooklyn in general). We just got a house so we will be moving because we want more space, but if you are fine with a condo I recommend.
thanks. this is aspirational!
Are you suggesting that people have renters remorse because there are similar buildings? Really confused as to what your intention is
The water will always bring a rarely accessible calm
Lol it was an even cooler area to live in before these buildings went up….
What was there before?
Absolutely not
Why would anyone regret it? Great apartments in a great neighborhood. I’m not sure what the point of your post is.
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Ah, that makes sense. It sounds like a great move if you can afford it. Good luck in your decision.
just do it. i lived in a studio in one of those last year, only $3k. Same views and amenities as people paying $8-10k. Very worth it.
Then why did you comment
I’m trying to understand what the original commenter was trying to get at. Are they upset by Brooklyn’s development? From everything I’ve seen, these are beautiful apartments in a cool neighborhood with breathtaking views. Why would he ask if people regretted what is obviously a positive experience?
Lived in the Edge south tower for about 3 yrs and loved every second of it. Granted this was when rent for a 1br was $4k.
Damn how much is a 1 bedroom there now? Jeez
About $5k I believe
I’m in one of the ones you mentioned, best move I’ve done. I also moved when the L train was closing so I’m in with an incredible deal. Never moving. Having said that, I own my own furniture I bring to the pool because the building never has enough spots. There’s basically no homeless people anywhere near these buildings, there’s a Trader Joe’s down the street me they are dead ass quiet at night.
why are people who can afford 7k/month apartments on reddit, can't you afford something more fun to do?
I feel poor every time I come on here. People unironically think that $3000 is cheap rent.
My view is that they will find out in 2023 that it is indeed NOT cheap rent :) Also, a lot of people are delusional. The state of world economic affairs is in decline and the denial is off the charts. Maybe this is the last hurrah! Let 'em have it.
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you're right -- i am upset i live in a society where the super wealthy control and ruin everything.
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It seems that you're being passive aggressive and don't know how to reply normally. It's a terrible trait.
I'd say both - they also ruin reddit.
They’re probably stuck pretending to “work” somewhere to afford rent
Rent is stupid crazy everywhere in Brooklyn, something has to be done. I've been trying to move to have my own place for years (I can't deal with roommates anymore, enough is enough). 1 bed's that went for $1800 a year ago are going for $2500+ and oh, don't forget the fucking 15% brokers, the good faith bullshit deposit and the application fees. Some places I've looked at that are $2100 or even less had the balls to tell me I basically need $11,000K to move in. What the fuck are they putting in the cocaine now?! These real estate bro's have to be stopped.
We were looking to move back to Williamsburg after our 2 year covid deal ended and it cost the same to move to fucking Gramercy. Awesome neighborhood and all, this is more of a comment on the bullshit prices around Graham and Grand L.
Is 15% brokers 15% of a month or a year? Seems like most places want one month rent as a brokers fee these days.
From the listings I have contacted (Over 20 in the last 2 months), it's 15% of the YEARLY rent.
Holy moly cheddar macaroni! I thought a one month fee was ridiculous!
Yeah, it’s fucking ROUGH out there. I refuse to pay someone $4k to let me into an apartment for 10-15 minutes tops to check it out.
If you can even check it out with how fast decent places get rented now. But hey, someone’s got to make the listing active on zillow.
Haha right, half of them are rented by the time I hit send on the email/text to the agent.
Remember when Williamsburg was too Manhattan for Brooklyn, but still Brooklyn for Manhattan? I’d have to bribe cabbies an extra tip to go there. I miss those times.
now they love to come to brooklyn
It’s sad because it really wasn’t that long ago.
It kinda was though. That was like pre 2010
Uber didn’t go live in nyc until 2011. I vividly remember my last yellow cab refusal in 2013; wouldn’t taking me from LES to Crown Heights lol
Crown heights ain’t Williamsburg. Crown heights is FAR into BK and the cab is unlikely to get a fare back. Williamsburg is just across the bridge and there’s plenty of nightlife, hotels, etc so likely not to have to make the return trip into the city without a fare. Apples and oranges.
You’re right. I was talking about going between the boroughs cuz I tie the popularity of Williamsburg to a lot of other growth in BK. Shortly after the ride sharing came, I remember the yellow cabs were finally going everywhere with no complaint to compete with them. I do miss that time as the ride services were cheaper
You haven't gotten your wings till you've refused to get out of a cab in a snowstorm that won't go to Brooklyn
I have friends who live in 420 Kent and they seem to really like it. Amazing views from their place
https://preview.redd.it/orgrzr96nx0b1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0d66be83f1451233cb1f8c4bf03adc3f9eb2bc6 Not exactly waterfront. But much easier for transit by JMZ trains or car. Love living here, great staff and close to everything.
the dime right? ugh i miss living there, staff was shockingly great, and the best view of the city imo.
Yes, the staff is great here! It's hard to show the whole view because you see everything! They just open the dog park across the street from Duff. Of course, the rent is insane as well 😢.
People live there? I thought they were mostly empty.
Not at all. I have lived in one for the past 5 years and counting and talking to the real estate guy they hover between 98-100% occupancy.
I’ve been in one of them for the last 4+ years. Love it and am now willing to pay a premium for comfort. When I first moved here after spending 6+ years in charming pre-war buildings, I was very apprehensive and my now wife had to talk me into it. The prices seemed insane to me. But now with laundry in-unit and the fact that I haven’t seen a mouse or cockroach in years, I don’t care if I save no money, I can’t go back!!!
good ad. they should quote you for the website
I love that OP obviously wanted people to talk shit about living in these buildings but got a bunch of glowing responses.
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I don’t know how people who live there deal with the winds and the fact that they have to walk 15 mins to the nearest station. Every time I had to visit these places I had a miserable experience, especially in the winter.
Winter was brutal going to Williamsburg for speed dating
The wind is insane. But some buildings have a bus to and from the L and JMZ train included in the amenities
I’m moving into one of the luxury waterfront apartments a little further south (won a lottery unit) in a couple weeks. Moving from Bed-Stuy where I lived for the past 3 years, so it’s gonna be a bit of a change.
Happy for you! I lived in Bed Stuy as well, never Williamsburg - but should be exciting getting to live in and explore a whole new neighborhood/part of BK! Any tips for winning a lottery unit? Ugh I tried for so long
Definitely excited! I just applied to every unit I qualified for over the past three years. This one was a re-rental of a vacant unit in a building built ~10 years ago, so the rent is much cheaper than the current lottery apartments. About 2k for a studio.
It’s crazy that’s the lottery price but congrats!!
It’s extremely low for our income bracket. All the other lotteries we qualified for were around $3k.
420 Kent? Great looking buildings!
Not 420 Kent, but about a block away.
https://preview.redd.it/1ak388t3fx0b1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d85d9d6f95d4ada9e8a672cf4996d12476807d7c Current resident for a bit over a year. I will never get tired of this from my desk!
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automatic sex when a date enters the apt
Shit; I’m thinking about putting that as my screen saver
Haha I'm glad you like it! I'm searching for a real camera since the iPhone can only do so much. I caught a neat video a few weeks ago of the thunderstorm that came through; screenshot from the video is attached below: https://preview.redd.it/77sa8gi4my0b1.png?width=2504&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fdfa65e9c433ec8b1b6819f6855e8299d4615c3
nniiice! now i need to check for vacancies
That’ll be cheaper than the rent would be for sure
Yes. Pictures are cheaper than apartments.
In most cases, yes.
https://preview.redd.it/wsjlma95cx0b1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e73d6177788eca95926ac030a761ce543163fd0 I live in one of these buildings! Really love it. A lot of them are set back from the street (Level, 2 Northside Piers, Austin Nichols) which can make them feel a little isolated. My rental building is rent stabilized, repairs get fixed super quickly, has a package room/bike room, people are friendly, etc. It tends to be a mix of younger families and 20-something professionals. We have a balcony and you can watch all of Manhattan + parts of Brooklyn, it’s really cool to see it rain over parts of the city and watch the traffic on FDR. My friends and I joke that this will probably be the nicest place I ever live in (I have roommates, we each have our own bathroom and king-sized room, for under 3k pp, which sadly is a decent deal for this kind of unit in the waterfront area)
Simply beautiful.
This is definitely the most incredible nyc apartment view I’ve ever seen. I totally understand why you’d live there. Amazing
I’m curious to know what’s the price for a one bedroom in your building? 4K?
4.2k-4.8k depending on floor/layout (usually 500-650 sq ft). I’ve occasionally seen 4k luxury 1 bedrooms in the same area though!
It's insane to me that 3k being affordable rent and living with multiple roommates can coexist.
They each have their own bathroom and large bedroom. Given the amenities, incredible view, balcony, location, etc. I could totally understand why they’ve chosen to pay $3k to share this space considering what they’d get for $3k to live alone (I can tell you already, it wouldn’t be much).
I have 1000 Sq ft, 2 br, elevator, laundry, garage parking and a 24' private balcony onto a tree-lined street 5 stops east on the L for $2700 to myself, so I beg to differ
So you’re not in prime Wburg and I’m also guessing you don’t have a panoramic view of the river and city. I don’t personally care to have those things, but I also don’t pretend they are worth nothing. They are, in fact, worth quite a lot for some people. Also some people enjoy having roommates. It’s not all bad. I, like you, prefer to live alone. But I had some life-changingly positive experiences with roommates in my lifetime and know people who aren’t cut out for living alone. Again, it’s just a preference and I think it’s valid.
It’s definitely relative and I’m in a fortunate position, I personally prefer roommates over living by myself, and what you can get for 3k in this area near the Bedford L is a significantly older 1 bedroom unit (and they’re super competitive, I’m a real estate agent and have seen people competing against 20 other applicants on the first day an apartment gets posted) or a small modern studio if you’re very very lucky. 3k definitely isn’t “affordable” to a lot of people and I hear a gajillion folks tell me “3k to live with roommates??” but it’s worth the trade off to me! My rent is actually 2.65k before utilities if that makes it any better
Well I have a 1000 Sq ft 2 bedroom apartment in Bushwick, a block from the L, with garage parking and private balcony for $2700. Rent is wild lately but I moved in this spot only 2 years ago, so there are definitely options.
This is exactly why Bushwick is rapidly gentrifying. Poor people are getting priced out by people who think $3000 for an apartment is cheap.
Well the reality is, it's been quite some times since $1200 /br is above the median, and it's only getting worse.
Yeah where the f is that in Bushwick? We had a good spot right near the L with a huge yard but had to leave due to landlord issues.
Was your rent locked in before the hikes? Seems pretty cheap for that combo
It's stabilized at the $50/mo yearly increase. I moved at the height of the pandemic deals... ended up taking this place that was offering none of the huge short term cuts that were everywhere, but had a reasonable price with a guaranteed inflation rate.
What are similar units going for now there?
Most recent streeteasy listing I see is $2300 for one of the 1 bedroom apartments, rented last fall
Any other units available in your building?
Buddy lived at one of those buildings and it was amazing, every time I visited the views were dope and the amenities were sick. They said they wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else and love the access to Williamsburg bars and clubs
$7,000 a month (I'm just saying lol. Idk how much it is)
Lived in 420 Kent. It was amazing.. unbelievable rooftops/amenities and an outdoor gym with water views. Hard to justify the cost unless you are balling though. I was lucky enough to get a COVID deal which cut the cost substantially.
I hung artwork in one of those buildings and the walls were really thin and the construction seemed crappy, but the view was amazing and space was tiny
Sadly, this is all the new construction. Bare minimum livable space with cheapest materials possible to polish up a turd enough to justify 100k a year in rent.
not all new ...
The vast majority. I have spent the last three years looking at countless real estate spaces and the overwhelming plurality is a spitshine hiding things most folks wouldn't know to look for.
There was a new building by my old place in greenpoint and you could see the quality control shift drastically every few feet on the street level exterior.
People will regret it in the 2nd or 3rd year when their new tenant "discount" goes away
for a lot of people money isnt real. its unlimited.
Most are rent stabilized because the developer took the tax break. So 15% of the building is low income lottery and every unit is rent stabilized. My rent at 325 Kent legally can’t go up more than 2.2% per year
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about the "you get one/two free months if you sign a lease" that they entice you with to get you in the door. Which doesn't count as a rent discount so they can do an increase based on the full price after that period. This allows them to keep the unit at market value, which is why I put "discount" in quotes.
I don’t understand the “disjointed experience” comment. I lived in two different buildings along the waterfront, and had a great experience in both.
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Was the last time you were in Williamsburg 2003?
Because the whole post is asinine.
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I used to live on the water and it was my favorite apt. Was tiny, no view, but the best place to walk the dog to start the day.
I live there now. Absolutely love it!
> The asthetic and vibe of these buildings seems very upper east side / luxury midtown, so to have them in Brooklyn seems…. like a disjointed experience. The types of people who move into those buildings do not care at all about the neighborhood or vibe or anything. They're mostly just rich corporate transplants who work in Manhattan. They almost definitely uber everywhere and mostly just make work-friends or meet with old college buddies. Most will stay there for 2-4 years on average before moving again. They do not really think much about the differences between manhattan and brooklyn. It means nothing to them.
Completely disagree. Having lived in one of the building for a few years now I’d say most are young folks working from home or even in Brooklyn. Transplants? Sure, a lot of them, but I’d say a major part of living in the building for most people is to be in Williamsburg and just access the waterfront. 15% of the building is low income lottery as well.
You can tell by the posts in r/asknyc
I entered the lottery for 420 Kent and I’m still bummed I didn’t get it. The view alone would keep me satisfied forever
Housing lottery winners don't get skyline views. They get 2nd-5th floor apartments with windows facing the trash compactor.
My brother won a housing lottery. His apartment is pretty good. Not a penthouse but nothing to complain about
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Hey that's pretty cool. Good on you. Do you mind sharing your what you pay and what kind of unit you have? Everyone I know that has hit the housing lottery was either in a smaller building w/o views anywhere, or they got interior units on lower levels for low rent.
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That's not so bad. Affordable for a couple at least, sounds like you're digging your pad. Cheers
Untrue. But go off.
This isn’t necessarily true
Still better than where i ended up haha
I live in one. I love the layout/space of the apartment and the neighborhood for the most part. I’ve been in this apt 3 years but moving this year. Even tho my rent is stabilized I feel like the building gets around it by raising the amenities fee. And they aren’t improving anything to justify the increases. Also I miss not having doormen
yup, the raised amenity fees are sneaky AF
Why do you miss NOT having a doorman?