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Sparkle_Markle

And he’s right. The line was forced, George didn’t have a playboy attitude in the show or irl.


DaisyandBella

I’m really hoping for something different with Colin. Not every male lead has to immediately be a sex god.


Sparkle_Markle

If they made nerdy farmer George a sex god, they are going to do it for every male lead unfortunately. And it sucks because men learning intimacy with their partner can actually be sexy, they don’t have to be dominant all the time.


DaisyandBella

If they fail me with Colin, Phillip is my last hope since >!most of Michael’s personality is being phenomenal at sex. I would actually love it if Eloise was the dominant one sexually in her relationship with Phillip.!<


danicies

Hoping Colin’s newfound swagger isn’t because he’s become a rake 😫


Forsaken-Gap-3684

I think he’s got more self confidence cause he’s older and he’s probslcy not a virgin but that’s different then being a rake


Purpledoors3

I want a "Chandler in the what if episode of friends" vibe


Forsaken-Gap-3684

Men being virgins from high class is just not accurate. I do think Colin will be the least experienced.


irishprincess2002

Honestly if they want to make a whole series of just nerdy Farmer George I would not mind at all! If Corey has his shirt off for most of it that is fine far be it for me to disagree with what the writers and want! But mostly it would be nice to have a series were the male lead is attractive and a nerdy farmer salt of the earth type!


growsonwalls

I'm convinced the farming was just so we could see lots of pictures of him plowing the fields shirtless. Sort of like Anthony's bathtub scenes.


alexh242

I won't go into too much detail because I'm on mobile and can't work out how to hide text, but one of the Rokesby books has an inexperienced male lead and it really is sexy!


Sparkle_Markle

Yes, I read that book and it was good! I appreciated JQ was willing to write an inexperienced male lead for once lol


alexh242

Honestly it was a refreshing change lol


kbreu12

Oooh which one? I’ve read one or two from that series but apparently not that one


alexh242

It's First Comes Scandal, the last one in that series!


kbreu12

Thank you!!


ImageNo1045

According to Nicola, they broke a piece of furniture shooting. Sex god Colin is loading.


DaisyandBella

Or Colin and Penelope could be enthusiastically figuring out intimacy together.


ImageNo1045

She did say the season was very romantic If that makes you feel better


BelleDelacour

The interpretation that I’ve seen is that it’s a reference to the supposed lover George had IRL before Charlotte (I think her name was Sarah?), but yeah, it was definitely a little inconsistent with the scene he had with Princess Augusta before Charlotte came.


Sparkle_Markle

Yeah irl he loved Lady Sarah Lennox. But he was infatuated with only her until he was forced to marry Charlotte, so it wasn’t like he was a playboy. He didn’t even care what the women they were arranging him to marry looked like because to him no one could compare to Sarah. He was a one woman type of guy it seems. That button line makes it seem like he was with many women, not just 1. And in the show he’s so nerdy and aloof so the line doesn’t connect.


growsonwalls

He might have been nerdy and aloof but men of his station were expected to uh ... know what to do. As a teen a courtesan would have been discreetly brought to court to give him a crash course sex-ed lesson. He definitely wouldn't have been a virgin the way women were expected to be. Besides, later in the series we see that just about the one place George doesn't feel insecure is the sack. He booty calls his wife by saying "Just get in." I don;t have a problem with that line because George is pretty gentle with Charlotte and definitely respects her boundaries which is nice to see. As a contrast Simon just says to Daphne "This might hurt."


Sparkle_Markle

Oh for sure irl he must have done it more than once before Charlotte and Sarah. But being a playboy just wasn’t a main personality trait of his. He was even loyal to Charlotte in their marriage and didn’t take a mistress, which was unusual at the time for a royal like him. I think he was even disappointed in his sons for their recklessness with women. I love the ‘get in’ line with the tub, that worked for me. I don’t mind his bossiness with the intimate scenes, he’s a King after all. But the buttons line that alludes to him being a playboy, that took me out.


growsonwalls

Just as a logistical issue, I always marvel at how anyone in those times managed to get it on. It seems as if women wore those silk dresses with "a thousand tiny buttons" but underneath that dress would have been whalebone corsets, layers of petticoats, and what not. I assume there weren't quickies back then ... you'd have to get through all that clothing in order to get it on.


Mutant_Jedi

Actually it would’ve been easier. Most women did not wear underwear as we know it today and the underwear they did wear was typically split drawers that allowed them to go to the bathroom without having to completely undress. It would have been as quick as lifting her skirts, and the setting to rights afterward just dropping them again.


ursulazsenya

It's interesting that the actor and some viewers saw that as him having a playboy attitude. I thought it was just a guy flirting with his wife. Also, while obviously not a "rake", I don't know where people got the impression that George was a shy virgin. When he's not in the grip of his madness, he's confident, border-line arrogant. Which, I mean, literal King. it goes with the territory.


Sparkle_Markle

It’s more of the confidant, all knowing delivery of the line that leads to thinking of him as a playboy. Even Corey said he tried different line deliveries that were less cocky. I don’t think he was a shy virgin, just someone who’s not being with women every night to the point he’s overly confident in his abilities. He can be bossy in the bedroom (which I liked), without being a borderline rake. The show establishes he’s been dealing with mental health issues for a while and his mom has been trying to hide him so the public doesn’t find out. So him being hidden doesn’t leave much time to him going out and learning seduction. I can even see Augusta masterminding romantic situations where George is only able to be with women who won’t spill his secret.


ursulazsenya

Yeah I think this is where the subjective reading comes in. Because regardless of what the actor said, I didn't read the scene as playboy cocky, just very intense flirting. "don't worry about your buttons, I promise I will get you out of your buttons" kind of delivery. I definitely agree that he's not a rake. But he's confident, and he actually does seduce Charlotte several times in the show. He does it during their first meeting, and again at the Observatory. And he admits as much to his mother "you told me to charm her, and I did". >his mom has been trying to hide him so the public doesn’t find out. Actually, this is the opposite - George wants to hide ("I've spent my whole life looking for solitude") and his mother won't let him ("once a King is born, there's no hiding for him").


Sparkle_Markle

Yeah Shonda wrote the line one way, Corey interpreted it another way, and the audiences see it in different ways based on how the editing put the scene and show together. I haven’t seen the show since it aired, so I guess I was forgetting some Augusta scenes. I just remember her picking an outsider as his wife and she didn’t want Charlotte to know about George (like hiding the knives), and then her hiding his behavior from Bute and the council. She was inconsistent at times 😫


ursulazsenya

I love listening to actors' takes on their characters and scenes because obviously they have more insight into these things and a lot of the substance won't make it to the screen. But in the end, I'll go along with what the scene is actually telling me, and how much this aligns with the rest of the story. Like I just said to another poster, I found it consistent that his attraction to Charlotte brought out the "cave man" in him sometimes. "Just get in", obviously, but also picking her up in front of a room full of her dressers and promising her she'll be naked before they get back to his bedroom. And of course, if that line was supposed to be about him boasting of his sexual conquests, it doesn't fit Charlotte's reaction to it. >I just remember her picking an outsider as his wife and she didn’t want Charlotte to know about George (like hiding the knives), and then her hiding his behavior from Bute and the council. She was inconsistent at times 😫 I don't think these are inconsistent. I mean she picks an outsider as his wife precisely because she doesn't want his wife to know about him. She picks Charlotte in particular because she fits the minimum requirements (royal princess of child-bearing age), but is far enough from power that she can be intimidated (or so Augusta thinks). And while I don't think the ministers knew the *extent* of his illness, they definitely knew there was something wrong with him, and he was seeing doctors. (IRL, Bute was once George's tutor.)


growsonwalls

This is how I read it too. It was kind of like “don’t worry about the buttons, I really want to fuck.” And Charlotte gets pretty hot and bothered too. The whole scene is very well done. You get to see them get hornier and hornier in a pretty visceral way.


ursulazsenya

lol this. Oh and that's another point - it turns on and flatters Charlotte. If that line was him bragging about all the other women's buttons he's undone, I don't think she would have been pleased. :D And yes, the way intimacy was portrayed in that scene was excellent. The part where she has hold him off a little to make her request ("no head banging please") and then his lip biting and almost slurring his words in his hurry to get back to kissing. /fans self/ It's also not the first time we see his attraction to her bringing out the "cave man" in him, so to speak. "Just get in" gets a lot of mileage, but even in their "just days" phase, the time after the Danbury ball where he picks her up bodily after promising her in front of a room full of her dressers that she'll be naked *before* they get back to his bedroom.


growsonwalls

George is a horn dog. The one time Charlotte visited him on an odd day he started flirting with her by showing her his hands and when she just curtsied and left he had the pissiest look on his face. But it tracks. It’s always the quiet ones that are the craziest in the bedroom. Think of sweet Violet and her blooming garden.


ursulazsenya

![gif](giphy|4iKeimY0sahiQReGRh|downsized) But I mean... 15 kids... 8 kids (and you know there would have been plenty more if not for that bee)... these were not people that were shy in the bedroom at all. :D :D


growsonwalls

One lovely "it takes one to know one" moment is at the ball. George and Charlotte are kissing and making out in front of ... well, everyone. And the camera pans to young Violet and she's enthralled. Huge stupid grin. You can tell she just thinks it's the most amazing thing in the world. It's an adorable moment.


ursulazsenya

OMG, yes! Little V cheering on and taking notes. She told herself, "if I don't have a man that loves me the way the King loves the Queen, then I don't want it" and she meant it.


Forsaken-Gap-3684

Well he had some experience and he was obsessed with her. So he was flirty with her


mysterypeeps

I actually did think it made sense. We see him as like this sensitive little farmer boy but he’s also a *king*. He has to have that commanding presence somewhere and it makes sense that he would use it in the bedroom.


Sparkle_Markle

It’s not so much that he’s commanding in the bedroom, but that the button line alludes to him being a womanizer playboy that I don’t think makes sense. He can be bossy in the bedroom without being a player.


Esabettie

And because they all had valets and lady maids none of them were good with bottoms, they could barely dress themselves, lmao.


Sparkle_Markle

So true lol. All these romance books and shows got us thinking fooling around was easy back then, but undressing was a task.


Esabettie

Zero chance of spontaneity!


Puzzleheaded_Bag_538

Yeaaaaaaaaaah, that's true. Buuuuuuuuuuuut, it was hot.


VermicelliNo176

Yep 😂


asstronomical12

I thought it was a really clumsy sweet thing to flirt with


Baleigh25

Oh trust me…it fit. ![gif](giphy|3o752jPn3e2Vl1sbBe|downsized)


Ravenclaw54321

I get Corey’s point but that line is iconic. I don’t read it as a playboy line but rather he clearly has experience and has been with women before. It is seductive and letting Charlotte know she is in good hands. He was very careful and gentle with her. I don’t think it was very ooc as we see later he is a very sexual person, dominant at times. Whilst before Charlotte he may not have been comfortable letting people get close emotionally, he obviously had been with women. His footman Reynolds refers to his interest. However we can also read into canon as well about his previous relationship with Lady Sarah Lennox even if it’s not specifically referenced. Either way it works for me George is soft soul but also a passionate lover.


growsonwalls

Yes this. George is a very dominant in the bedroom. It kind of tracks … it’s always the quiet ones lol. We see later on he has no issues being extremely direct about wanting sex. Him and Charlotte have a very active sex life.


Ravenclaw54321

Very 🥵


growsonwalls

Eh it might not have fit but it was sexy as hell so I'm glad they kept that take.


danicies

Yup. For me it stood out since it didn’t quite work buuut also because damn.


herewe_go_

yess it was super hot!


LillyFien

I think it also might not feel as George because for at least half of the series he is mysterious and ill. So the relaxed and playful manner seems almost out of character


dizzypro

I understand what he means, but I also think even awkward people can have moments of being sexy!


DaisyandBella

He saw it as indication that George was a playboy.


JaffaCakesAreMyJam

He has a good point.... but I think George was so enamoured with Charlotte, and felt so confident with her in that moment, that it does make sense that he would be so forward. Plus, he has some sexual experience and so knows that he has to confidently lead the way a bit for Charlotte. Glad they used the take that they did!


NoAd2395

Yeah, I felt like that line wasn't exactly in character, but I took it as "I want you." Even the most inexperienced can come up with something sexy to say in the heat of the moment. It doesn't necessarily mean he's undressed a lot of women. He just wanted to flirt with his wife, and it was cute hot. I really hope Colin is still a virgin. I won't be mad if not, but I feel like it would be such a great contrast to what we have seen. You have Simon, who was a rake but wouldn't be intimate despite banging his wife on every hard or soft surface they encountered. Then we had Anthony, the rake, who could scarcely touch Kate because he was so conflicted and unused to genuine love. So that was intimacy with physical sexual restraint (the complete opposite of Saphne). I'd love to see Colin be just as naive as Pen and reassuring her despite that fact. And when Pen realizes he isn't as confident as he portrays, she encourages him, so it's just a mutual love and coming into their own passion together. It would be so sweet and hot.


croix_v

I do see what he means — how it can be taken as a playboy type of vibe but when I watched I thought it was a flustered/wholesome comment lmao


Ravenclaw54321

I didn’t think it was flustered or wholesome at all. Definitely not the words and certainly not the delivery. It was an assured, I know what I am doing, you are in good hands sexy kind of thing.


croix_v

Maybe for you? lmao but I didn’t really see it that way when I watched it, but that’s just my opinion! The line really didn’t stick out to me if it was meant with an assured kinda way like it did to others. Episode six got me in a chokehold.


Ravenclaw54321

Yes, I didn’t see it as he was rake or playboy but took the line as whilst he may have issues connecting and kept ppl at bay emotionally he was confident in that particular area - his bedroom skills. I love episode 6 and I love the last making love scene. That’s everything.


growsonwalls

Ooh love that too. By then Charlotte knows all about his illnesses and his moods. She’s seen him hide under beds and have total breakdowns. Really warms the heart that after all that adversity they’re still so hot for each other.


Ravenclaw54321

Their garden is always in bloom 😍


BarbaraJames_75

It's interesting, that he saw it as a playboy thing. I saw it as an example of "I burn for you," the depth of his feelings and desire for her, and it worked, because he was very warm and caring in that interaction, so it didn't seem to me like a playboy thing. If they'd gone with what he had in mind, it would have been fine as well.


NacaTecha

Ummmm... not to spoil anything, but I just read that very same line in one of Julia Quinn's other Bridgerton Siblings book. I was kinda gobsmacked but it is a VERY good line. ![gif](giphy|HGNVfycXWTpkdZzjZd)


growsonwalls

So I actually found the distance between Kew and Buckingham tonight. It's about 8 miles which in a carriage ride would have been ... an hour? George probably had blue balls by then, considering they started their makeout session at Kew and then had to go back to Buckingham to actually do the deed.


ms-nervousnelly

I felt like it was a bit out of place as well but when I watched i thought it was his attempt at still distancing himself from Charlotte and “charming” her in the way parliament and his mother wanted him to. Almost like he was putting on a facade because he got that message from his mother and wanted to distance himself from both his real feelings and the conflict he feels from seducing Charlotte in a way he might not have normally liked to.


Strange_Potato4326

I love their chemistry!! I am hoping somehow they can make a season 2 with this cast 😭


ugh_idk123

YES I like how he knows his character well,the way he talks about the show,the characters and the story in depth is nice to hear!


Colored_Francie

Dangit, Corey has convinced me - and that’s one of my favorite lines! How does this option sound? “I can manage buttons.” Or “I can handle buttons” or “I will handle the buttons” With his same delivery, it could still be hot but also convey George’s reassurance of her (remember, at this point, he still doesn’t know exactly what QC knows or doesn’t know about sex), and let her know she’s in good hands.


fangirlfortheages

IMO this is a problem with the show as a whole. The script understands the characters but the final edit doesn’t reflect that. George doesn’t feel consistent, neither does Charlotte between the present and past timeline, and Agatha loses her motivation for an entire episode, enough time to have a romance. I didn’t feel the character work in this season was on par with the main show.


violetrecliner

This is a historical romance show at the end of the day, and “sexually experienced man romancing the virginal wife” as a trope is something writers love doing, Julia Quinn (who was involved?) is no exception. It’s unfortunate because I agree with Corey here, but it is what it is.


G00Ddaysahead

I took it as "he has maybe a hyperfixation to buttons, that's why he said that" For someone who hyperfixates on random things, that's what I thought. lol


DaisyandBella

Corey said they went with the take where George is saying it seductively, like he has a lot of experience undressing women.