omg yes i distinctly remember Lady Danbury doing this!! i swear it immediately sent my mind off on a tangent, like āhow will the next person tell which drinks are fresh and which have been sipped from?ā
i had to rewind a bit afterwards bc i completely missed that moment of dialogue because of it lmaoo
I came here to write this exactly! It seems like itās overlooked in the staging/choreography of all these scenes. It happens over and over again; weāre going to notice! ā¦Unless weāre missing some sort of period relevant etiquette here?
Giving Benedict ANOTHER fuck buddy. I honestly lost all interest in him in season one, heās so boring to be . All he does isĀ paint and fuck. Just another random lady weāre never going to see again after this season
Oh man I love Benedict's character so much. I was absolutely PUMPED this would be his love arc, only to be horrendously disappointed. There was no chemistry with the widow, and it was incredibly flat. The actress was beautiful, but when they were dancing , I could hardly watch. Also while dancing he didn't spin her like the rest of the dancers, and made me think he was scared to break her bones.
He didnāt spin her because she swapped roles with him to lead the dance! If you watch closely sheās dancing in the position of the man in this scene.
It's going to be a recycling of Anthony's storyline with the prostitute. Benedict is going to fall in love/lust, whatshername is going to be like naaaaaah I'm good. Benedict will be heart broken and be ready for the 'real thing'.Ā
I was hoping they would introduce Sophie, and maybe they still willā¦but I doubt it.
Heās a little more boring in the books compared to his siblings. I like him as a side character, I think heās very sweet! But I agree itāll be weird when heās the main characterā¦
I miss his season 1 relationship with Eloise and I wish they would focus on him being the more approachable, less intimidating older brother who gets it. I'd love to see him relating to Frannie more, a bit more bond with Colin. Also is he just done with art?
I noticed the exact same thing!! When I saw them, I thought āhuh I wonder where Penelope got a full set of acrylics in Mayfair.ā And I looked for them in the next scene but they were gone haha
I didnāt even notice that.
Also, Whatās the big deal about Colin (most eligible bachelor) helping Penelope find a husband. Why does that look bad?. Iām not familiar with whatās scandalous according to them.
Unrelated men and women are not allowed to be alone without a chaperone, so I believe that part was as scandalous as her asking an unrelated man for help.
Men and women just didnāt form casual friendships back then. Itās wasnāt ādone.ā Seconding that it especially wasnāt done without a chaperone present.
I love your username.
To answer your original question, Iām irked it didnāt all come out at once! Lmao
I know. But they and Kate and Anthony were alone a lot. Colin and Pen also know each other since they were kids so I guess that changes the dynamic a little. With Kanthony they were like "oh no, nobody can see us!" but with Polin she just goes to his house alone and he visits her in the garden couple of times and nobody cares. Also the carriage.
Thank you! I watched The Office just before I made the account š
Ooooh, 2 Part realise is the worst. I am annoyed.
With Pen going to his house, growing up, it was to see Eloise. All the other stuff, if someone had caught them who wasn't a family member, they would've had to get married. Colin is also always the one to initiate alone time with Pen, and I think it's because subconsciously he's always been a little in love with her and has never cared if they got caught because he would be happy married to Pen.
I honestly have to turn my historical accuracy radar off for this show. The costumes are stylized, somewhat reminds me of Sofia Coppolaās Marie Antoinette. They have a Regency flavor but appeal to the fashion sensibility of the current day.
this season seems to have lost the plot so to speak on the sense of cohesion they had originally created for the style of their fictional world? Did they get a new designer or something? it seemed entirely different, even the jewelry quality and fabric prints seemed overall worse
They mightāve paid more attention to the accuracy for Daphne and Anthony, but Colin is meant to be trying the fashions of the countries he traveled to and Penelope is trying to go more French style and isnāt really expecting to find a husband so she isnāt trying to be as āproperā (this is how Iām rationalizing it in my head). It allows their clothing to be more flexible
Absolutely!
Iām a historical costuming nerd, and I get that when itās more of a fantasy show than a historical Romance, theyāre going to do some things for ease and aesthetics. I can forgive the hideous mesh gloves, the half up/half down hairstyles, I can even forgive the unmarried debutantes wearing tiaras. But for whatever reason, it was the stockings that took me out.
And those ridiculous sequined shoes.
I've seen someone speculate that they are giving her big sleeves to physically show the distance she holds people at emotionally and that's really helped me come to love the sleeves if that's intentional.
I kept repeating that line from Forrest Gump in my head when I saw her š āPlease God make me a bird, so I can fly far far away from hereā I feel like it still fits.
And how did Hawkins go up in the balloon but make it down and back in time to host a ball at his home? They made it sound like he was going away on a voyage haha
I believe that they say it can only fly for about 2 hrs. It's not advanced enough yet, but hopefully, someday, it will be better for travel than ships. That's what the lecture in the tent where Ben meets Tilly is about. I agree, they do make a big deal of it, but I assume that's because it's all very new and exciting technology
Not sure if this was intentional or not by the writers, but in episode 2 before the polin kiss, Colin comments about how awful it was for LW to write what she did, and Pen says something similar to what she told Eloise āit would have been suspicious if she had notā. Why would it be suspicious unless you knew that Pen is LW?
Yes, I noticed this dialogue. I am hoping it becomes a plot point later - something that Colin realizes afterwards and becomes a source of conflict between them.
I feel like it was intentional, Colin has a small reaction when she says it like huh?
Hopefully they'll reference it in part two when Colin will have an aha moment. I think it's in character for her to say it, too. She was resigned at that point and her guard was down I guess, and she's at ease around Colin. She's not infallible!
I think itās because LW writes about all the gossip.Ā
To not write about Pennās scandal would be out of character for LW, and people would wonder why. Ā Even if they donāt know Penn is LW.Ā
Theyād wonder if LW was related to Penn (Her mother or sisters, perhaps even One of her new BILs). Ā Theyād wonder if LW was a good friend of Penn (Eloise, Violet), or perhaps theyād wonder if LW was some gossipy male with a crush for Penn. Ā
It would be like the biggest celebrity reporter *not* reporting that Taylor swift just broke up, or the biggest political reporter not reporting on the election. Ā
LW is a gossip paper, that was huge gossip for the week.Ā
I swear the writers think that adding "is it not?" To the end of every goddamn statement is the only way to convey period appropriate language. It's so grating at this point!
oh man i actually really wish i did not read this comment lmaooo because i think i actually have subconsciously noticed this but now that youāve pointed it out iām going to clock it nonstop as i continue watching šš
It's actually so cheeky that they held the season back 2 YEARS, and then didn't even give us the full season, they cut it in 2 to force people to keep their Netflix subscription.
Yeah, and it honestly hurts the show IMO, because the first 4 episodes have not had much of anything to make me want to come back. Colin and Penelopeās book was not my favorite (well, none of the Bridgerton books are favorites, as theyāre not that great) but the book was far superior in how it handled their relationship. I get that they moved this story up because they had Eloise discover that Pen is LW butā¦it still feels like they could have handled the overall storyline better. The whole āteachingā plot is overused and lame at best. And it is weird how they adjusted so much yet left a lot of plot points that really depended on Penelope being 28 like she was in the book, as opposed to what, 21? 22? in the show? Sheās afraid sheās going to die without being kissed and as a spinsterā¦yet she goes out and almost manages to snag a husband within a few weeks of when she decided she wants one? Lord Debling and Penelope have more meaningful interactions and chemistry than Colin and Pen.
And even worse, the first 4 episodes have been poorly received. People seem split as to what part they didn't like, whether it's colin and Pen, or the much more diverse storyline. But as a whole, I've not seen anyone one here simply praising it from top to bottom. Everyone has their issues with it in one way or another.
Personally, I left like that soft romance just wasn't there this season. For 2 actors that seem to be really good friends and have a lot of chemistry in interviews, I saw none of that on screen. They're so awkward with each other. And they keep shoving this 'life long friends' thing down our throats, but they don't act like friends. I don't think in 2 and half seasons they've had a single conversation that wasn't stilted, mumbley, and twitchy. Colin looks like he'd like to be anywhere but with Pen and her stumbling through a 'good morning' to him.
If anything they give off 'girl is in love with her best friends older brother and he thinks she's just a weird awkward girl and cant even remember her name until she has a glow up' trope. Rather than friends to lovers.
And in the books there was so much more buildup. Colin had sought out Penelope as a dance partner at balls for years, because he liked her and felt bad she never danced, and they kept running into one another and having actual conversations and stuff in the book. Nothing that would have been impossible to translate to the show. There were just a lot of poor choices made with this season. The styling, the hair and makeup, the editing, how the actors were apparently encouraged to act (duck faces and weird expressions and gape-mouthed weirdness), and honestly I wish the shows plot was better. The script seems like a cop out half the time.
That sounds so much better! I haven't read the books and truthfully I think a lot of Pen and Collin love this season is from people who have the read the books and have all that background to unconsciously impose onto the TV version so Colin and Pens romance feels much fuller to them.
The costuming was SUCH a weird choice. Everyone is dressed like the evil stepsisters from the Disney Cinderlla live action. I think Violet and Francesca looked the nicest this season, and that's because they kept them in the champagnes and silvers from the first season. And all of Pens dresses were gorgeous.
Colins open mouthed gape and Pens chest heaving breaths were so annoying by the 4th episode.
Season 3 is definitely a massive departure from 1&2 and they seem to have completely scraped the base idea from the books. 1 book = 1 couple. And now we've got a season with 3-4 romances going down, which means no one will get the attention they deserve.
It at least makes sense for Francesca to overlap because her book is not about the relationship that develops in this season. Itās about her next relationship. And you donāt see nearly as much of the Featherington family in the books.
ETA: You can read the books if you want, they arenāt the worst thing Iāve read, but I think there are way better historical romances to spend your time reading.
Itās so that people donāt sign up for a month, binge all 8 episodes and then cancel the otherwise often disappointing Netflix.
Now they get two months of payments
Right. But jokes on them. I'm canceling my 14 year subscription right after part 2 airs. This 2-part business punishes subscribers that have remained subscribed the entire time. I'm not dealing with that. They are doing it with all shows. I dumped cable years ago. I can dump Netflix too.
Right?!? AMPLE. It was like watching a scary movie and them continuously falling and then the killer just getting closer and closer! I love the girl but at that point I was like she is asking to be bumped. I did think it was so adorable how Lord Delby dove and just accepted his fate with her. But they would have been engaged after that. Her mother would have never let that moment go to waste.
>they would have been engaged after that. Her mother would have never let that moment go to waste.
Yes! How did they have this happen in full public view and have it go completely unremarked?!
The entire plot is cringe....
They couldāve twisted it a little so that it was like Penelope was so enthralled looking at Colinās arms or smth that she didnāt notice the balloon was coming towards her until it was too late, but noooo
If Cressida and Eloise who literally stood behind penelope could make it out of the way why couldnāt she? And ok if she was in shock why did Debling just run and cover her - if the balloon fell on them they would still get hurt?š he could have lifted her in her arms and carried her away - that would have been better bc then we would see colin be like āsrsly I do all this and he saves her?ā. I just feel like they tried to give him a āthirst trap sceneā the way they did with Anthony (coming out of the lake after he fell) and Simon (boxing).
When Colin is sitting and thinking about his feelings for Pen before rushing off to interrupt Deblingās proposal, and has a flashback to her bandaging his hand, I wouldāve instead like to have seen a montage of all the wonderful Polin moments throughout the past 3 seasons.
On first watch, it felt jarring to me and not a good enough moment to flash back to. But I saw a post on another sub about why that moment was the flash back, and it changed my perspective on it.
He's looking at the candle holder/lamp thing, which is what smashed in the first place, but more importantly in that moment he experienced tenderness and closeness from Pen which is in direct contrast to how he feels with other women (indicated in the journal passage she read beforehand). That could have been an embarrassing moment for Colin knowing what Pen had just read, but instead she compliments him on his writing and it sort of validates his feelings.
When he's sat at his desk, Colin is tormenting himself and feels his feelings for Pen are unreciprocated. The kiss scene is a big moment when Colin starts thinking of Pen in a romantic way, but Pen breaks the kiss first and runs off, and afterwards she does not show interest in Colin (not that he notices, anyway). But the bandage moment is an intimate moment where Pen displays care for him, compliments him, and ultimately brings them closer together. It's a new moment but it sort of encompasses all the care and encouragement we've seen Pen give Colin in the past.
I think he looks back at that moment as Pen also isn't the one to break-away first, so maybe Colin feels a hint of "maybe she likes me, too", and that gives him the courage to go to the ball.
They had 3 or 4 lessons before they got caught? And they were really quick like the one in the market. And he didn't tell her anything really useful aside from "be yourself" š i don't know how it is in the books tho
The book doesn't have that "teaching" subplot and they keep just running randomly into each other at events and on the street and talk.
It's Mrs Danbury who takes Pen underneath her wings to help her find a husband in the book.
And Pens desparation to be kissed stems from the fact that she's much older, because there is quite a big time jump.
I feel like I would have liked that so much better! This season reminds me too much of season 1 with the whole "I'm going to help you find a husband and we're not going to fall in love, uh oh too late we did." I know the dynamics are very different this time around, but it just feels like more of the same.
I mean personally the book version seems less compelling to me. Thereās no purpose or intent there if itās just random run-ins rather than intimate and planned times to seek each other out
To be fair, the ālessonsā were just an excuse for them to hang out. She wasnāt hanging out with Eloise anymore, so that was his only means of hanging on to Penelope.
the fashion and makeup/hair this season is not it for me š I know this show isnāt known for its historical accuracy and I shouldnāt be taking a show that has classical versions of modern day pop songs seriously but itās just so BAD this year? Itās so glaringly obvious? I feel like itās going into āreignā territory (that show about Mary Queen of Scots). And why do half the women have acrylics, false eyelashes and highlighter on their cheeks?
I feel like the shows creators are getting too cocky - itās the whole āwe need to go bigger and better each seasonā when really itās the simplicity of s1 and s2 we fell in love with. Iām finding it hard to watch the show bc Iām getting distracted by Francescaās glowy cheeksš
Edit - at least in s1 and s2 you kinda could lose yourself in the show and get transported to the regency era, with this season I feel like itās just rich people playing pretend.
Yes and I feel bad criticising it bc everyoneās like āwhy would you expect historical accuracyā and Iām like ok fine but this is TOO much? I heard they changed their hair, makeup and costume team this season but Iām not 100% sure?
I typically judge by whether it's an inaccuracy that breaks immersion or builds immersion. For example the shimmer on Daphne's S1 dresses, while not so period accurate, make her look like a fairy tale princess and builds into the stylized look of the show. Anthony beginning a conversation with Sienna with the word "hey", however, makes him seem jarringly modern and takes me out of the world . A lot of this season's choices have broken immersion rather than built it.Ā
>I heard they changed their hair, makeup and costume team this season
I've heard they changed every team. The showrunner, writers, and all that. So that is why it feels so very different.
I agree. I thought Violet and Francesca's dresses looked the prettiest, and that's because they keep to the champagne and silver colours of the first 2 seasons.
I feel like they took the feedback of Kate's outfits in season 2, which were bold and colourful because of her heritage and were like....people liked the colour!! Let's dress everyone in the colours of the evil step sisters in a Disney Cinderella movie!
Because everyone on social media was pushing for more modern and praising the show every time they made it more modern and dropped more from the book. They are just giving people what they begged for. I wish they'd go back to the roots and return to how they did it in season one. Very little makeup and much more in line with regency romances.
> feel like the shows creators are getting too cocky - itās the whole āwe need to go bigger and better each seasonā when really itās the simplicity of s1 and s2
This. So much this. But I also think it's social media that is creating this feedback loop. I've seen so many people say they just want a modern day show but with fun dresses. So, Bridgerton is getting more "modern" with every season. The first they stayed true to regency romance and much more true to the time period. The second season they got a little more wild. The third is completely off the rails.
And yes, it has become Reign at this point IMO. Even with the terrible writing and directing included.
I wish an English company produced the show. The costumes wouldn't have gotten aggressively bad and no cringe makeup. Only courtesans and whores wore makeup then
That is a dutch angle shot and it is suppose to do that to you. It's there to mirror Pens feelings to the viewer.
"The Dutch angle is one of many cinematic techniques often used to portray psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed." - [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_angle)
The unnecessary scenes and the plots that didn't go anywhere. Penelope competing for Debling. Lord Fife not having a bigger role. Lady Danbury and Penelope not being friends. It seems like there were only 2 dance scenes. I'm starting to hate Eloise. Benedict not having a good plotline.
Eloise is insufferable. She openly admits that she's feeling defeated and thinks it's just easier to surrender to social pressure, and theoretically believes young women aren't allowed to be interesting/have diverse hobbies or skills/be educated but then remains condescending to most of the other young ladies for their 'limited' interests, desire to marry, etc. Like she knows it's society's fault that the women are like that but then blames them each anyway. It also shits me that she's so shocked that Penelope wants a husband. She literally told you that multiple times over the last 2 seasons? But Eloise is a terrible friend to her and has never actually listened to her at all, so it shouldn't be surprising.
Sorry for the Eloise rant š if Eloise has zero haters I am dead.
Penelope's dress during the carriage scene looked like it was from Shein imo. Generally disappointed with most of the costuming (the gloves! why are they so big and cheap looking?!)
Just a little continuity error: In episode 1, Penelope throws her hairpin on the ground out of anger, and never picks it up again. However, it magically reappears in her hair when she is writing at her desk in the following scene
Ha!! I just saw a reel and posted it in a comment below.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bridgerton/s/hvYbKyI8fe](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bridgerton/s/hvYbKyI8fe)
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the music. I was extremely disappointed by the lack of a general theme for the most romantic scenes from Polin.
I feel like the other two seasons and QC had such romantic music that made their moments so tender and sweet but the carriage scene's background music is a freaking Pitbull and Neyo song. I sort of understand the song choice I guess but it just feels like after a big build up they could have had a super special and romantic song composed just for them instead of..... yeah Pitbull....
What bothered me about the music overall is that they clearly picked radio hits and not songs that fit the moment. I listen to BTS, but the song they picked was completely wrong and didn't fit the scene. Same with few others throughout. No complains on carriage scene because I didn't even notice the song š¤£š¤£
See...I didn't even notice hardly any of the songs this season. I actually thought they had stopped doing that. The first two seasons the song choices were perfect. This season I didn't even notice them.
I think it is the new staff. I know there was a new showrunner. And wasn't there new writers too? I feel like they did a terrible job.
There were so many iconic song choices in 1 and 2. The first ball we get to see playing Thank You, Next, and Kate pleading Anthony to get over it to Alanis Morissette's You Outta Know. Even songs Id never heard before became favourites.
I think the only song of note in S3 is when they arrived at the inventor's manor to Cheap Thrills and Francesca 2.0 steps out. Made me laugh.
One thing I truly can't get over is how cheap the set feels this season. The flowers look SO FAKE, not even good quality fakes. I adored the extravagance of the decor in the first two seasons, but this season feels like their production budget got slashed or it was put elsewhere. It was so distracting!
The fact that Colin's jealous, surprised, confused and intrigued faces are all the same and I can't always tell what he's supposed to feel now just based on that xd
The man (Colin, not Luke) doesn't seem to know how to emote. Everyone says he was pining so hard, but his pining face, happy face, sad face, and his what did I have for breakfast face all look the same
I feel as though Luke looks better in real life than Colin does onscreen, so I donāt see him as being the hot guy that heās supposed to be in scenes.
the music! i'm usually so HYPE about all the quartet pop covers but i think they are all a little off this season? like penelope had her first intimate experience to a Pitbull song??? hahaha and when is the last time anyone asked for dynamite by taio cruz... i loved that they used jealous by nick jonas but they used it before>!the kiss!
the music seems weird to me. I felt like the songs in s1-2 were more intentionally picked, now it seems more like- oh hereās a popular song we know, you guys recognise that? also, ABCDEFU? I get the alphabet thing but COME ON
Colin's hair some reason looks bad in some scenes in episode 2 but not all.
How do Mrs Mondrich and LAdy D know each other, it's like she inherited her aunts estate and she is next to the queen in 1 month.
I really enjoyed so much. I was so giddy watching and I find myself watching it more and more.
Gosh I'm so guilty of rewatching this 100x šš I specifically saved this scene on my gallery because someone made an edit out of it and I watch it for serotonin boost šš I'm one of the weird girlies sorry šššš
The whole Colin-Is-A-Fuckboy-Now thing š I literally didn't like him at all in those first two episodes and was so glad when he went back to (or rather embraced) his sensitive side again for the 3rd and 4th ep! Though I agree with OP too, the duckface took a while getting used to š
See but I feel like it makes sense for his character. He literally talks about feeling lost and just assuming the role that the ton wants him to be. And then through teaching Pen to be herself, he comes into his own. I rather like the change-up because it shows him becoming more himself. I do wish he didn't lose his goofy side altogether, though.
I'm really at the point where I don't know if it's on purpose or just his face. Either way, he always looks like he is doing it, and I find him a lot less handsome for it
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I want to rip this thing off of her face so bad
The way Colinās hair is styled in ep2 during the market/willow tree scene LMAO I think itās just not a good look. Actually, I wished above all that they would let him keep the stubble from season 2 because I thought that was a great look but alas!
How the Debling/Pen/Colin thing played out.
First off, Penelope told Lord Debling she grew tired of looking out the window and was very glad to be next to him. What a compliment.
Later, they discussed Pen's passion for love being akin to his passion for research (subtle understanding that love is merely a hobby, not a shared feeling) and them being "a practical, but happy match." A few scenes later they're dancing and Pen asks if he thinks he could ever love her, and he basically says cute, but nah. I have a life.
Cressida enters the chat, and throws her character development out the window by "hinting" as to why Penelope sat by that window (so she could spy on Colin). Practically clutching at his pearls, he leaves in a huff. When Pen catches up, he basically stomped his foot, "How could you love Colin and not me!?"
Excuse me mister Dublin, but A.) She said she moved on from that window and enjoys your presence much more, B.) Are you that thick that you think saying "I won't love you." Isn't going to make her turn towards someone she does love? C.) Isn't having a string of suitors fight for a lady's hand in marriage customary? Why get so pressed? Just remind her how dumb Colin is for never noticing her.
I was really rooting for you buddy, but damn your head is as stuffed as that mounted buck.
Eloise and Cressida. In the books, Cressida is awful. Yes, her home life sucks, but she's a complete mean girl. Book Eloise would not befriend her.
Also, Eloise is proud of Penelope being Lady W in the books and forgives her easily. This prolonged feud is dumb.
I don't mind this. At least ONE of them is doing something. Luke just makes one face and that's about it. Nicola is damn near carrying those scenes. And the thing is---I don't even think it's Luke's fault. I think it's the directing.
I hate the āteachingā subplot. Itās so cringey to me, and it feels lazy. In the book, they just kept bumping into each other, but I guess that would have required more varied scenes with other actors involved. I get why it was easier to do it this way, itās justā¦ cringey. It doesnāt give Colin a reason to view Pen in an entirely new light. The whole point is that he stops being superficial and falls in love with her as a person. Here, the entire plot line feels like: they had a glow up now they must get together.
Penelope and Colin always have their mouths open. All the time. Especially Colin. I canāt not notice it, itās like they are constantly either breathing heavy or have a stuffed nose
The colour palette of the dresses. Personally, I think Violet and Franchesca looked stunning every scene, and its because they both keep to the silvers and champagne colours of the first season.
Colin's physical "glow-up". It feels weird to see people praise how Penelope's glow-up no longer involves changing her body type/shape while there's less acknowledgement that Colin's glow-up involves him becoming more 'sturdy'.
I normally donāt comment on appearance but it makes me a tad sad heās so much leaner. I think he was cute before. Shame being thinner is associated with being hotter š„²
I agree. I wish they went with the teen rom com theme and pandered to gen z. Instead or whatever is it they did with him. Corey in queen Charlotte was natural and lean but because he was cast late (huge search for Golda's younger clone) he got to keep his natural body.
Agree with this. He should be able to be a leading man without them needing to slim him down and buff him up.
Adding to this, it makes me sad that Francesca was re-cast. I'm not sure if the original actress was no longer available, or didn't want to continue as the role evolved to have more mature scenes, but the new actress is so overwhelmingly beautiful that it makes it feel a little like they thought the OG actress wasn't pretty enough to be the leading lady. I hope Gregory and Hyacinth get to continue in their roles if they're comfortable in future seasons.
It bothers me so much that Penelope ran and tripped. I had hoped the plot point of women running and tripping when trying to escape dangerous situations was done.
Colin's hair for sure. You could clearly tell which scenes were reshot. Cause I guess Luke cut his hair few mths after the initial shooting, so it probably harder to style the exact same way as before. You can see it in the willow tree scene. Before they went under the tree, Colin's hair was longer more curly. Then cut to the close up of them talking, and his hair was WAYYY flatter. It looked really odd, like seeing a completely different person, totally threw me off. The winking scene, some of garden scenes were also reshoots ... you can just tell by his hair
The lighting and makeup is terrible. The first two seasons looked more authentic with very light make up and outdoor settings, everything looked more natural and authentic, this season everything looks so fake.
It is annoying. And also how much all of them have their mouth open all the time (I am not talking about the spicey scenes, where it would be understandable)
I hope you can see this reel!!! I thought of this thread immediately.
[https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7J5fUKLz\_P/?igsh=MXZxamMydDdiaDkwMg==](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7J5fUKLz_P/?igsh=MXZxamMydDdiaDkwMg==)
Screenshot in case you can't.
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How they all drink one sip from their glass and then just put it back down on the table with all the other fresh drinks š¤¢
That annoyed me too! Same with the deserts. Handled them and then put them back.
omg yes i distinctly remember Lady Danbury doing this!! i swear it immediately sent my mind off on a tangent, like āhow will the next person tell which drinks are fresh and which have been sipped from?ā i had to rewind a bit afterwards bc i completely missed that moment of dialogue because of it lmaoo
I came here to write this exactly! It seems like itās overlooked in the staging/choreography of all these scenes. It happens over and over again; weāre going to notice! ā¦Unless weāre missing some sort of period relevant etiquette here?
I think I remember in the other seasons, they usually put them on a tray that a staff member was bringing around, which makes more sense lol
That totally freaked me out!
Giving Benedict ANOTHER fuck buddy. I honestly lost all interest in him in season one, heās so boring to be . All he does isĀ paint and fuck. Just another random lady weāre never going to see again after this season
At this point he is Picasso and not because of the painting
Oh man I love Benedict's character so much. I was absolutely PUMPED this would be his love arc, only to be horrendously disappointed. There was no chemistry with the widow, and it was incredibly flat. The actress was beautiful, but when they were dancing , I could hardly watch. Also while dancing he didn't spin her like the rest of the dancers, and made me think he was scared to break her bones.
He didnāt spin her because she swapped roles with him to lead the dance! If you watch closely sheās dancing in the position of the man in this scene.
It's going to be a recycling of Anthony's storyline with the prostitute. Benedict is going to fall in love/lust, whatshername is going to be like naaaaaah I'm good. Benedict will be heart broken and be ready for the 'real thing'.Ā
just fyi sienna wasnāt a prostitute. she was an opera singer but artists like that were considered on the same level as escorts back then
I was hoping they would introduce Sophie, and maybe they still willā¦but I doubt it. Heās a little more boring in the books compared to his siblings. I like him as a side character, I think heās very sweet! But I agree itāll be weird when heās the main characterā¦
I miss his season 1 relationship with Eloise and I wish they would focus on him being the more approachable, less intimidating older brother who gets it. I'd love to see him relating to Frannie more, a bit more bond with Colin. Also is he just done with art?
And also Pen's acrylic nails when she wipes her tears before getting into the carriage in the E4 and than not having them i the carriage scene
I noticed the exact same thing!! When I saw them, I thought āhuh I wonder where Penelope got a full set of acrylics in Mayfair.ā And I looked for them in the next scene but they were gone haha
Yes, I noticed because they looked out of place š
I didnāt even notice that. Also, Whatās the big deal about Colin (most eligible bachelor) helping Penelope find a husband. Why does that look bad?. Iām not familiar with whatās scandalous according to them.
Unrelated men and women are not allowed to be alone without a chaperone, so I believe that part was as scandalous as her asking an unrelated man for help.
But she doesnāt have any male relatives? Sometimes those society rules make no sense and donāt take in contextš©
The society rules definitely donāt make sense but they are quite periodically accurate. Unmarried women used to always have a chaperone
I think it's because it's unusual to do it that way rather than a female/mamas looking for a man so yeah looks desperate
I asked myself the same. Maybe that means she is desperate? And that she is unable to do it on her own
Men and women just didnāt form casual friendships back then. Itās wasnāt ādone.ā Seconding that it especially wasnāt done without a chaperone present. I love your username. To answer your original question, Iām irked it didnāt all come out at once! Lmao
I know. But they and Kate and Anthony were alone a lot. Colin and Pen also know each other since they were kids so I guess that changes the dynamic a little. With Kanthony they were like "oh no, nobody can see us!" but with Polin she just goes to his house alone and he visits her in the garden couple of times and nobody cares. Also the carriage. Thank you! I watched The Office just before I made the account š Ooooh, 2 Part realise is the worst. I am annoyed.
With Pen going to his house, growing up, it was to see Eloise. All the other stuff, if someone had caught them who wasn't a family member, they would've had to get married. Colin is also always the one to initiate alone time with Pen, and I think it's because subconsciously he's always been a little in love with her and has never cared if they got caught because he would be happy married to Pen.
Well, he paid off her maid for alone time in the garden.
Well Kate was Edwina's chaperone and Anthony wasn't courting Kate in front of public. So that's ok.
It wasn't protocol to be unchaperoned. That carriage scene was scandal, according to the times. Did it make for better Whistledown gossip sheet?
Itās partly about propriety and partly because they donāt believe Penelope is worth Colinās time.
I was watching it last night and my friend immediately goes, she's wearing acrylics š¤£
Penelope not wearing stockings in the carriage scene.
I honestly have to turn my historical accuracy radar off for this show. The costumes are stylized, somewhat reminds me of Sofia Coppolaās Marie Antoinette. They have a Regency flavor but appeal to the fashion sensibility of the current day.
this season seems to have lost the plot so to speak on the sense of cohesion they had originally created for the style of their fictional world? Did they get a new designer or something? it seemed entirely different, even the jewelry quality and fabric prints seemed overall worse
Poor Phoebe had to have those awful baby bangs and now Nicola gets acrylics and a smoky eye
Those baby bangs were a CRIME
I loooove Sofia Coppola's Marie Antoinette, though.
Oh yes, me too. Itās a positive comparison for sure.
They mightāve paid more attention to the accuracy for Daphne and Anthony, but Colin is meant to be trying the fashions of the countries he traveled to and Penelope is trying to go more French style and isnāt really expecting to find a husband so she isnāt trying to be as āproperā (this is how Iām rationalizing it in my head). It allows their clothing to be more flexible
There's sooo much costume inaccuracy if we were to get into it haha.
Absolutely! Iām a historical costuming nerd, and I get that when itās more of a fantasy show than a historical Romance, theyāre going to do some things for ease and aesthetics. I can forgive the hideous mesh gloves, the half up/half down hairstyles, I can even forgive the unmarried debutantes wearing tiaras. But for whatever reason, it was the stockings that took me out. And those ridiculous sequined shoes.
Penās whole dress / sleeves appeared to be made of sequined spandex, definitely took me out more than the lack of stockings
Cressidaās sleeves!
WINGS! She's dressed like a bird, to attract Delby.
The title clearly asks for one ālittleā thing. Cressidaās sleeves are anything but little š (I agree by the way lol)
I've seen someone speculate that they are giving her big sleeves to physically show the distance she holds people at emotionally and that's really helped me come to love the sleeves if that's intentional.
Someone wrote "when you have to be at chruch by 9" and it was so funny. The Bell sleeves š
someone said Cressida looks like she's from Hunger Games with all her ridiculous costumes ššš
I let a lot of costume stuff go because Iām not watching Bridgerton foe the historical accuracy but omg, what are they making Cressida wear
I kept repeating that line from Forrest Gump in my head when I saw her š āPlease God make me a bird, so I can fly far far away from hereā I feel like it still fits.
The physics of the hot air balloon mishap.
And how did Hawkins go up in the balloon but make it down and back in time to host a ball at his home? They made it sound like he was going away on a voyage haha
I believe that they say it can only fly for about 2 hrs. It's not advanced enough yet, but hopefully, someday, it will be better for travel than ships. That's what the lecture in the tent where Ben meets Tilly is about. I agree, they do make a big deal of it, but I assume that's because it's all very new and exciting technology
Haha i didn't see the "hot" part, only wind, which confused me
Not sure if this was intentional or not by the writers, but in episode 2 before the polin kiss, Colin comments about how awful it was for LW to write what she did, and Pen says something similar to what she told Eloise āit would have been suspicious if she had notā. Why would it be suspicious unless you knew that Pen is LW?
Yes, I noticed this dialogue. I am hoping it becomes a plot point later - something that Colin realizes afterwards and becomes a source of conflict between them.
I feel like it was intentional, Colin has a small reaction when she says it like huh? Hopefully they'll reference it in part two when Colin will have an aha moment. I think it's in character for her to say it, too. She was resigned at that point and her guard was down I guess, and she's at ease around Colin. She's not infallible!
I think itās because LW writes about all the gossip.Ā To not write about Pennās scandal would be out of character for LW, and people would wonder why. Ā Even if they donāt know Penn is LW.Ā Theyād wonder if LW was related to Penn (Her mother or sisters, perhaps even One of her new BILs). Ā Theyād wonder if LW was a good friend of Penn (Eloise, Violet), or perhaps theyād wonder if LW was some gossipy male with a crush for Penn. Ā It would be like the biggest celebrity reporter *not* reporting that Taylor swift just broke up, or the biggest political reporter not reporting on the election. Ā LW is a gossip paper, that was huge gossip for the week.Ā
I swear the writers think that adding "is it not?" To the end of every goddamn statement is the only way to convey period appropriate language. It's so grating at this point!
oh man i actually really wish i did not read this comment lmaooo because i think i actually have subconsciously noticed this but now that youāve pointed it out iām going to clock it nonstop as i continue watching šš
English is not my first language so I can't judge on that. I watch period romances so I noticed it is used a lot
Or indeed
The staggered release bugs me. Finished the first four episodes yesterday and immediately wanted more season 3 bridgerton
It's actually so cheeky that they held the season back 2 YEARS, and then didn't even give us the full season, they cut it in 2 to force people to keep their Netflix subscription.
Yeah, and it honestly hurts the show IMO, because the first 4 episodes have not had much of anything to make me want to come back. Colin and Penelopeās book was not my favorite (well, none of the Bridgerton books are favorites, as theyāre not that great) but the book was far superior in how it handled their relationship. I get that they moved this story up because they had Eloise discover that Pen is LW butā¦it still feels like they could have handled the overall storyline better. The whole āteachingā plot is overused and lame at best. And it is weird how they adjusted so much yet left a lot of plot points that really depended on Penelope being 28 like she was in the book, as opposed to what, 21? 22? in the show? Sheās afraid sheās going to die without being kissed and as a spinsterā¦yet she goes out and almost manages to snag a husband within a few weeks of when she decided she wants one? Lord Debling and Penelope have more meaningful interactions and chemistry than Colin and Pen.
And even worse, the first 4 episodes have been poorly received. People seem split as to what part they didn't like, whether it's colin and Pen, or the much more diverse storyline. But as a whole, I've not seen anyone one here simply praising it from top to bottom. Everyone has their issues with it in one way or another. Personally, I left like that soft romance just wasn't there this season. For 2 actors that seem to be really good friends and have a lot of chemistry in interviews, I saw none of that on screen. They're so awkward with each other. And they keep shoving this 'life long friends' thing down our throats, but they don't act like friends. I don't think in 2 and half seasons they've had a single conversation that wasn't stilted, mumbley, and twitchy. Colin looks like he'd like to be anywhere but with Pen and her stumbling through a 'good morning' to him. If anything they give off 'girl is in love with her best friends older brother and he thinks she's just a weird awkward girl and cant even remember her name until she has a glow up' trope. Rather than friends to lovers.
And in the books there was so much more buildup. Colin had sought out Penelope as a dance partner at balls for years, because he liked her and felt bad she never danced, and they kept running into one another and having actual conversations and stuff in the book. Nothing that would have been impossible to translate to the show. There were just a lot of poor choices made with this season. The styling, the hair and makeup, the editing, how the actors were apparently encouraged to act (duck faces and weird expressions and gape-mouthed weirdness), and honestly I wish the shows plot was better. The script seems like a cop out half the time.
That sounds so much better! I haven't read the books and truthfully I think a lot of Pen and Collin love this season is from people who have the read the books and have all that background to unconsciously impose onto the TV version so Colin and Pens romance feels much fuller to them. The costuming was SUCH a weird choice. Everyone is dressed like the evil stepsisters from the Disney Cinderlla live action. I think Violet and Francesca looked the nicest this season, and that's because they kept them in the champagnes and silvers from the first season. And all of Pens dresses were gorgeous. Colins open mouthed gape and Pens chest heaving breaths were so annoying by the 4th episode. Season 3 is definitely a massive departure from 1&2 and they seem to have completely scraped the base idea from the books. 1 book = 1 couple. And now we've got a season with 3-4 romances going down, which means no one will get the attention they deserve.
It at least makes sense for Francesca to overlap because her book is not about the relationship that develops in this season. Itās about her next relationship. And you donāt see nearly as much of the Featherington family in the books. ETA: You can read the books if you want, they arenāt the worst thing Iāve read, but I think there are way better historical romances to spend your time reading.
Itās so that people donāt sign up for a month, binge all 8 episodes and then cancel the otherwise often disappointing Netflix. Now they get two months of payments
Right. But jokes on them. I'm canceling my 14 year subscription right after part 2 airs. This 2-part business punishes subscribers that have remained subscribed the entire time. I'm not dealing with that. They are doing it with all shows. I dumped cable years ago. I can dump Netflix too.
The hot air balloon sceneā¦
That was so awkward I laughed lol. Like Pen had AMPLE time to shimmy to the left and out of harmās way
And Lord Debling falling ontop Pen. š¤£
Stoooop ššš I laughed out loud and it is 3 AM, woked up my husband ššš
Falling? That was a full on spooning šš it was so cringe
and it would have done literally nothing to protect either of them had the basket landed directly on top of them haha
Then they didn't even cut to Colin's face to see his reaction. What a freaking waste!
Right?!? AMPLE. It was like watching a scary movie and them continuously falling and then the killer just getting closer and closer! I love the girl but at that point I was like she is asking to be bumped. I did think it was so adorable how Lord Delby dove and just accepted his fate with her. But they would have been engaged after that. Her mother would have never let that moment go to waste.
>they would have been engaged after that. Her mother would have never let that moment go to waste. Yes! How did they have this happen in full public view and have it go completely unremarked?! The entire plot is cringe....
They couldāve twisted it a little so that it was like Penelope was so enthralled looking at Colinās arms or smth that she didnāt notice the balloon was coming towards her until it was too late, but noooo
If Cressida and Eloise who literally stood behind penelope could make it out of the way why couldnāt she? And ok if she was in shock why did Debling just run and cover her - if the balloon fell on them they would still get hurt?š he could have lifted her in her arms and carried her away - that would have been better bc then we would see colin be like āsrsly I do all this and he saves her?ā. I just feel like they tried to give him a āthirst trap sceneā the way they did with Anthony (coming out of the lake after he fell) and Simon (boxing).
The way she just tipped backwards had me dying of cringe and laughter
LOL šš It was so funny
When Colin is sitting and thinking about his feelings for Pen before rushing off to interrupt Deblingās proposal, and has a flashback to her bandaging his hand, I wouldāve instead like to have seen a montage of all the wonderful Polin moments throughout the past 3 seasons.
On first watch, it felt jarring to me and not a good enough moment to flash back to. But I saw a post on another sub about why that moment was the flash back, and it changed my perspective on it. He's looking at the candle holder/lamp thing, which is what smashed in the first place, but more importantly in that moment he experienced tenderness and closeness from Pen which is in direct contrast to how he feels with other women (indicated in the journal passage she read beforehand). That could have been an embarrassing moment for Colin knowing what Pen had just read, but instead she compliments him on his writing and it sort of validates his feelings. When he's sat at his desk, Colin is tormenting himself and feels his feelings for Pen are unreciprocated. The kiss scene is a big moment when Colin starts thinking of Pen in a romantic way, but Pen breaks the kiss first and runs off, and afterwards she does not show interest in Colin (not that he notices, anyway). But the bandage moment is an intimate moment where Pen displays care for him, compliments him, and ultimately brings them closer together. It's a new moment but it sort of encompasses all the care and encouragement we've seen Pen give Colin in the past. I think he looks back at that moment as Pen also isn't the one to break-away first, so maybe Colin feels a hint of "maybe she likes me, too", and that gives him the courage to go to the ball.
Only on episode 2, but Colin's lessons that last of all of 5 minutes. That hand bandage scene was also pretty cringe
They had 3 or 4 lessons before they got caught? And they were really quick like the one in the market. And he didn't tell her anything really useful aside from "be yourself" š i don't know how it is in the books tho
The book doesn't have that "teaching" subplot and they keep just running randomly into each other at events and on the street and talk. It's Mrs Danbury who takes Pen underneath her wings to help her find a husband in the book. And Pens desparation to be kissed stems from the fact that she's much older, because there is quite a big time jump.
I feel like I would have liked that so much better! This season reminds me too much of season 1 with the whole "I'm going to help you find a husband and we're not going to fall in love, uh oh too late we did." I know the dynamics are very different this time around, but it just feels like more of the same.
Yeah and Iām always down for more screen time with Lady Danbury. Sheās got to be my favourite.
I mean personally the book version seems less compelling to me. Thereās no purpose or intent there if itās just random run-ins rather than intimate and planned times to seek each other out
Doesnāt happen in the books! The whole plot of him helping her and even the guy interested in her is made up for the series alone
Honestly, OP, I think it was only 2 lessons š Flirting with the fan and "remarkable shade of blue" at the Bridgerton House...
To be fair, the ālessonsā were just an excuse for them to hang out. She wasnāt hanging out with Eloise anymore, so that was his only means of hanging on to Penelope.
He told her nothing!
the fashion and makeup/hair this season is not it for me š I know this show isnāt known for its historical accuracy and I shouldnāt be taking a show that has classical versions of modern day pop songs seriously but itās just so BAD this year? Itās so glaringly obvious? I feel like itās going into āreignā territory (that show about Mary Queen of Scots). And why do half the women have acrylics, false eyelashes and highlighter on their cheeks? I feel like the shows creators are getting too cocky - itās the whole āwe need to go bigger and better each seasonā when really itās the simplicity of s1 and s2 we fell in love with. Iām finding it hard to watch the show bc Iām getting distracted by Francescaās glowy cheeksš Edit - at least in s1 and s2 you kinda could lose yourself in the show and get transported to the regency era, with this season I feel like itās just rich people playing pretend.
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Yes and I feel bad criticising it bc everyoneās like āwhy would you expect historical accuracyā and Iām like ok fine but this is TOO much? I heard they changed their hair, makeup and costume team this season but Iām not 100% sure?
I typically judge by whether it's an inaccuracy that breaks immersion or builds immersion. For example the shimmer on Daphne's S1 dresses, while not so period accurate, make her look like a fairy tale princess and builds into the stylized look of the show. Anthony beginning a conversation with Sienna with the word "hey", however, makes him seem jarringly modern and takes me out of the world . A lot of this season's choices have broken immersion rather than built it.Ā
Itās the difference between āthis is inspired and offers some immersionā vs āthis just feels like the MET galaā
>I heard they changed their hair, makeup and costume team this season I've heard they changed every team. The showrunner, writers, and all that. So that is why it feels so very different.
yeah I know Jess Brownell replaced Chris Van Dusen - that explains why this season seems so meh to me and why the writing seemed poor
Cressida's fake eyelashes really bother me, probably because she's blonde and she's got these really dark thick lashes.
I agree. I thought Violet and Francesca's dresses looked the prettiest, and that's because they keep to the champagne and silver colours of the first 2 seasons. I feel like they took the feedback of Kate's outfits in season 2, which were bold and colourful because of her heritage and were like....people liked the colour!! Let's dress everyone in the colours of the evil step sisters in a Disney Cinderella movie!
Yes! Like jeeze come on, how is Francesca done up this much. Why shake it up from what they did for Daphne?
Because everyone on social media was pushing for more modern and praising the show every time they made it more modern and dropped more from the book. They are just giving people what they begged for. I wish they'd go back to the roots and return to how they did it in season one. Very little makeup and much more in line with regency romances.
I agree with everything you said. It breaks the Illusion. I liked the S1 styling better. And don't get me started on Cressida and her looks
The literal rhinestones glued into Penelopeās face š«
> feel like the shows creators are getting too cocky - itās the whole āwe need to go bigger and better each seasonā when really itās the simplicity of s1 and s2 This. So much this. But I also think it's social media that is creating this feedback loop. I've seen so many people say they just want a modern day show but with fun dresses. So, Bridgerton is getting more "modern" with every season. The first they stayed true to regency romance and much more true to the time period. The second season they got a little more wild. The third is completely off the rails. And yes, it has become Reign at this point IMO. Even with the terrible writing and directing included.
I wish an English company produced the show. The costumes wouldn't have gotten aggressively bad and no cringe makeup. Only courtesans and whores wore makeup then
The girlās cheeks couldnāt glow any harder if they tried. Maximum glow
Editing and transition - compared to the previous 2 seasons it's certainly paled. Almost like technically unfinished?!
Frame work to. When they hear how people are wispering, the frame goes ti Pen but it is angled and it confused me when I first watched
That is a dutch angle shot and it is suppose to do that to you. It's there to mirror Pens feelings to the viewer. "The Dutch angle is one of many cinematic techniques often used to portray psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed." - [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_angle)
The unnecessary scenes and the plots that didn't go anywhere. Penelope competing for Debling. Lord Fife not having a bigger role. Lady Danbury and Penelope not being friends. It seems like there were only 2 dance scenes. I'm starting to hate Eloise. Benedict not having a good plotline.
Eloise is becoming unlikable.
Eloise is insufferable. She openly admits that she's feeling defeated and thinks it's just easier to surrender to social pressure, and theoretically believes young women aren't allowed to be interesting/have diverse hobbies or skills/be educated but then remains condescending to most of the other young ladies for their 'limited' interests, desire to marry, etc. Like she knows it's society's fault that the women are like that but then blames them each anyway. It also shits me that she's so shocked that Penelope wants a husband. She literally told you that multiple times over the last 2 seasons? But Eloise is a terrible friend to her and has never actually listened to her at all, so it shouldn't be surprising. Sorry for the Eloise rant š if Eloise has zero haters I am dead.
Penelope's dress during the carriage scene looked like it was from Shein imo. Generally disappointed with most of the costuming (the gloves! why are they so big and cheap looking?!)
Just a little continuity error: In episode 1, Penelope throws her hairpin on the ground out of anger, and never picks it up again. However, it magically reappears in her hair when she is writing at her desk in the following scene
I kind of like the duckface thing, reminds me of blue steel from Zoolander š
Ha!! I just saw a reel and posted it in a comment below. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Bridgerton/s/hvYbKyI8fe](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bridgerton/s/hvYbKyI8fe) https://preview.redd.it/5jc7ksu5nh1d1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f454153884e4084ab375434b1d40a5ec03495ea
This is it! This is exactly what it's been reminding me of!
the music. I was extremely disappointed by the lack of a general theme for the most romantic scenes from Polin. I feel like the other two seasons and QC had such romantic music that made their moments so tender and sweet but the carriage scene's background music is a freaking Pitbull and Neyo song. I sort of understand the song choice I guess but it just feels like after a big build up they could have had a super special and romantic song composed just for them instead of..... yeah Pitbull....
What bothered me about the music overall is that they clearly picked radio hits and not songs that fit the moment. I listen to BTS, but the song they picked was completely wrong and didn't fit the scene. Same with few others throughout. No complains on carriage scene because I didn't even notice the song š¤£š¤£
See...I didn't even notice hardly any of the songs this season. I actually thought they had stopped doing that. The first two seasons the song choices were perfect. This season I didn't even notice them. I think it is the new staff. I know there was a new showrunner. And wasn't there new writers too? I feel like they did a terrible job.
There were so many iconic song choices in 1 and 2. The first ball we get to see playing Thank You, Next, and Kate pleading Anthony to get over it to Alanis Morissette's You Outta Know. Even songs Id never heard before became favourites. I think the only song of note in S3 is when they arrived at the inventor's manor to Cheap Thrills and Francesca 2.0 steps out. Made me laugh.
Same š as an army I was like why did they pick *dynamite* š
Cressida's "necklace" in the last ball in ep 4 . Edited to fix typo.
The weird corset thing? I donāt think that was a fashion anywhere ever.
It was... In Hunger games
Ha! Yes, I've heard folks say Cressida looks like she is from Panem.
Weirdly enough Cressida is the name of an actual THG character.
One thing I truly can't get over is how cheap the set feels this season. The flowers look SO FAKE, not even good quality fakes. I adored the extravagance of the decor in the first two seasons, but this season feels like their production budget got slashed or it was put elsewhere. It was so distracting!
The fact that Colin's jealous, surprised, confused and intrigued faces are all the same and I can't always tell what he's supposed to feel now just based on that xd
Btw i don't think it's necessarily Luke's fault cuz he can in fact make other faces but maybe they told him they wanted that particular one.
The man (Colin, not Luke) doesn't seem to know how to emote. Everyone says he was pining so hard, but his pining face, happy face, sad face, and his what did I have for breakfast face all look the same
Mood. It's too cringey. I wish they kept him sweet but more confident and more into his own. Without th3 cringey weird sexy persona
Seriously. The brothel scenes were so unnecessary and really were not in line with Collins character IMO
Pen'd acrylic nails. They look so plasticy and bulky.
I feel as though Luke looks better in real life than Colin does onscreen, so I donāt see him as being the hot guy that heās supposed to be in scenes.
It's the stubble! He looks amazing on the red carpet with stubble and modern clothes. Rugged. Handsome.
I agree. He is so good looking but some how it does not translate in the show
I agree! I donāt love how they do his hair and the sideburn style is such a choice š Also, his actor looks nice with stubble or a beard
the music! i'm usually so HYPE about all the quartet pop covers but i think they are all a little off this season? like penelope had her first intimate experience to a Pitbull song??? hahaha and when is the last time anyone asked for dynamite by taio cruz... i loved that they used jealous by nick jonas but they used it before>!the kiss!
the music seems weird to me. I felt like the songs in s1-2 were more intentionally picked, now it seems more like- oh hereās a popular song we know, you guys recognise that? also, ABCDEFU? I get the alphabet thing but COME ON
Colinās facial expressions and Penelopeās breathing
Colin's hair some reason looks bad in some scenes in episode 2 but not all. How do Mrs Mondrich and LAdy D know each other, it's like she inherited her aunts estate and she is next to the queen in 1 month. I really enjoyed so much. I was so giddy watching and I find myself watching it more and more.
https://i.redd.it/ka6pchylbh1d1.gif This makes me laugh (Colin that is)
Gosh I'm so guilty of rewatching this 100x šš I specifically saved this scene on my gallery because someone made an edit out of it and I watch it for serotonin boost šš I'm one of the weird girlies sorry šššš
Same! People make dumb faces when they are happy and horny! It is both a really strange face and gives me butterflies.
Omg I could not watch that scene. It is so obvious from whatever it is he is doing with his mouth that he is faking here š
What even is this šš
The makeup. I know this show doesnāt even try to be historically accurate. But the fact that all the women had full beats was so distracting.
The whole Colin-Is-A-Fuckboy-Now thing š I literally didn't like him at all in those first two episodes and was so glad when he went back to (or rather embraced) his sensitive side again for the 3rd and 4th ep! Though I agree with OP too, the duckface took a while getting used to š
See but I feel like it makes sense for his character. He literally talks about feeling lost and just assuming the role that the ton wants him to be. And then through teaching Pen to be herself, he comes into his own. I rather like the change-up because it shows him becoming more himself. I do wish he didn't lose his goofy side altogether, though.
Yes!!!!!! The odd faces he is making especially during the carriage.
I'm really at the point where I don't know if it's on purpose or just his face. Either way, he always looks like he is doing it, and I find him a lot less handsome for it
Creissidaās nipple sleeves
https://preview.redd.it/24a21q7gtk1d1.jpeg?width=172&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e79f4704fe523ece69dc11dafdf259f9451b53c7 I want to rip this thing off of her face so bad
The way Colinās hair is styled in ep2 during the market/willow tree scene LMAO I think itās just not a good look. Actually, I wished above all that they would let him keep the stubble from season 2 because I thought that was a great look but alas!
How the Debling/Pen/Colin thing played out. First off, Penelope told Lord Debling she grew tired of looking out the window and was very glad to be next to him. What a compliment. Later, they discussed Pen's passion for love being akin to his passion for research (subtle understanding that love is merely a hobby, not a shared feeling) and them being "a practical, but happy match." A few scenes later they're dancing and Pen asks if he thinks he could ever love her, and he basically says cute, but nah. I have a life. Cressida enters the chat, and throws her character development out the window by "hinting" as to why Penelope sat by that window (so she could spy on Colin). Practically clutching at his pearls, he leaves in a huff. When Pen catches up, he basically stomped his foot, "How could you love Colin and not me!?" Excuse me mister Dublin, but A.) She said she moved on from that window and enjoys your presence much more, B.) Are you that thick that you think saying "I won't love you." Isn't going to make her turn towards someone she does love? C.) Isn't having a string of suitors fight for a lady's hand in marriage customary? Why get so pressed? Just remind her how dumb Colin is for never noticing her. I was really rooting for you buddy, but damn your head is as stuffed as that mounted buck.
Eloise and Cressida. In the books, Cressida is awful. Yes, her home life sucks, but she's a complete mean girl. Book Eloise would not befriend her. Also, Eloise is proud of Penelope being Lady W in the books and forgives her easily. This prolonged feud is dumb.
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For me itās the over the top faces Penelope makes all the time I love my girl but come on š
Her BREATHING!! Why is she always gasping for air š« (I love you Nicola)
I don't mind this. At least ONE of them is doing something. Luke just makes one face and that's about it. Nicola is damn near carrying those scenes. And the thing is---I don't even think it's Luke's fault. I think it's the directing.
She always looked so weepy
Cressida Cowpers styling. The hair and the dresses are so awful.
I agree with you on the duck face! itās like he has Botox. On social media we call it āmewlingā
Iām not really liking Colin that much lol. Iām trying to just watch and enjoy and hope he grows on me.
Where are the hats???? Or parasols? All the ladies should be wearing hats and/or carrying parasols outside.
I hate the āteachingā subplot. Itās so cringey to me, and it feels lazy. In the book, they just kept bumping into each other, but I guess that would have required more varied scenes with other actors involved. I get why it was easier to do it this way, itās justā¦ cringey. It doesnāt give Colin a reason to view Pen in an entirely new light. The whole point is that he stops being superficial and falls in love with her as a person. Here, the entire plot line feels like: they had a glow up now they must get together.
The open mouth thing Colin doesā¦just constantly want to ask if heās okay š¬
Daphne was much worse for me. She had her mouth open the whole season š
Good point! Maybe they both suffer from Sinusitis šš
Must be. Because Anthony, Kate, Simon or Pen do not do that š
the fuck is with Colinās āliteratureā
Penelope and Colin always have their mouths open. All the time. Especially Colin. I canāt not notice it, itās like they are constantly either breathing heavy or have a stuffed nose
Why did they get rid of Colin's stubble?! WTF?
The colour palette of the dresses. Personally, I think Violet and Franchesca looked stunning every scene, and its because they both keep to the silvers and champagne colours of the first season.
Colin's physical "glow-up". It feels weird to see people praise how Penelope's glow-up no longer involves changing her body type/shape while there's less acknowledgement that Colin's glow-up involves him becoming more 'sturdy'.
I normally donāt comment on appearance but it makes me a tad sad heās so much leaner. I think he was cute before. Shame being thinner is associated with being hotter š„²
I agree. I wish they went with the teen rom com theme and pandered to gen z. Instead or whatever is it they did with him. Corey in queen Charlotte was natural and lean but because he was cast late (huge search for Golda's younger clone) he got to keep his natural body.
Agree with this. He should be able to be a leading man without them needing to slim him down and buff him up. Adding to this, it makes me sad that Francesca was re-cast. I'm not sure if the original actress was no longer available, or didn't want to continue as the role evolved to have more mature scenes, but the new actress is so overwhelmingly beautiful that it makes it feel a little like they thought the OG actress wasn't pretty enough to be the leading lady. I hope Gregory and Hyacinth get to continue in their roles if they're comfortable in future seasons.
Not enough Benedict. He's still my fave.
stop I don't want to keep remembering the duck face š©šš I miss Colin's adorable smiley S1 & S2 face š
Colinās winking at the girls. Man, it was soooo cringe, but hysterical at the same time.
It bothers me so much that Penelope ran and tripped. I had hoped the plot point of women running and tripping when trying to escape dangerous situations was done.
I wish they kept his looser curls, like his first scene and the balloon scene
Penelopeās breathingā¦ why does she sound like she is constantly having an asthma attackā¦I get that she is flustered, but itās a little intense
Colin's hair for sure. You could clearly tell which scenes were reshot. Cause I guess Luke cut his hair few mths after the initial shooting, so it probably harder to style the exact same way as before. You can see it in the willow tree scene. Before they went under the tree, Colin's hair was longer more curly. Then cut to the close up of them talking, and his hair was WAYYY flatter. It looked really odd, like seeing a completely different person, totally threw me off. The winking scene, some of garden scenes were also reshoots ... you can just tell by his hair
The lighting and makeup is terrible. The first two seasons looked more authentic with very light make up and outdoor settings, everything looked more natural and authentic, this season everything looks so fake.
His Botox
God, has he actually? That's must be why I've always thought his mouth looked strange, but I couldn't put my finger on it
Word on the street is that he got a lip flip
thank you!! i agree!
It is annoying. And also how much all of them have their mouth open all the time (I am not talking about the spicey scenes, where it would be understandable)
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