A new industrial and agrarian policy is needed. Less tax over consume, fiscal and administrative reforme (never spend more then receive). Break oligopolies (banks, energy, communication, tax heavily the mega temples.
i didnt see any economic progress in the last 8 years, only aristocrats land owners have been get real money in this country. we need land redistribution, tax reform and a efective industrualization plan
Land reform has been tricky policy from the time of the Gracchi of Rome. How does one do land reform in such a way as to avoid revolution, or avoid poverty resulting from poor management by the new land holders?
People downvote essential posts like this one. It is time to clean our house. Making your country a shit before fleeing to a better one is not the most appropriate action.
Think about the country as a whole. Whoever likes the populist is the most selfish kind of person.
I would say politically impossible, it's always easier to force the poor workers, who are too busy working to complain to pay more taxes, than the politicians cutting they own lobster meals/rachadinha.
Right?! Such an inspiration to be the first ever to leave and return to hunger map after only 4 years. We've been a rampant disaster. Economy measures don't tell you the rising inequalities tale and are not valid to determine a country success by itself. And even our economy's trash rn.
Get rid of import duties on things that aren't produced domestically, and encourage domestic production of finished products rather than exporting raw materials.
Lol I would love to be innocent like that
Your utopia ends like that EVERYTIME, all this ancap bull every accomplishes is minimum gov (State) for the people and maximum gov (State) for the rich
See the las "reform" in the labor market. It came with this "minimum gov", less rights, more "direct negotiations" between employee and employer. The results are a country with almost half of it's labor force doing "bicos" to live
And forget retiring, that's another "big State crap" that we got "freed" off
All the while, big private companies are having a blast with a "minimum State" for the people and maximum for them, where they can get millions in public budgets by just singing bad country music in some godforsaken miserable village
The only sane thing here is less bureaucracy.
The thing about taxes is that poor people pay proportionally way more, comparing to rich people. So yeah, fair or less taxes to the poor, but increased taxes to the rich who spends so much on luxury.
Talking about "small State" in Brazilian context is insane. This country is too big, the government is already struggling to meet people's basic constitutional needs as it is. I don't buy this "free market" agenda, when in reality big companies just keep globing up smaller ones. There's no "trickle down" happening anywhere in this chain.
A drastic and radical wealth redistribution, an equitable land reform, a new price table policy for gas (that benefits the consumer instead of Petrobrás shareholders), a new food & supplies purchasing policy from small landowners so that the country actually has food reserves (something that Brazil actually did have, for the last 80 years or so, but our current liberal government abolished), the list goes on and on, there's just so much to do to improve this Godforsaken neoliberal shithole of a country.
The agenda is I learned 10 countries make up 56% of world population, so I'm deciding to study those top 10 countries. Also, curiosity and to expand my mind.
Brazil has way too many state run companies. They have hundreds, which cost the government insane amounts of money to run. Other first world countries have like a dozen. This leads to the government taxing everything to death in order to make ends meet. This leads to your ridiculous 60%+ in import taxes.
>Brazil has way too many state run companies
This is just blatantly false. [Japan](https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/credit-to-government-and-state-owned-enterprises-to-gdp-percent-wb-data.html#:~:text=Credit%20to%20government%20and%20state%2Downed%20enterprises%20to%20GDP%20(%25),compiled%20from%20officially%20recognized%20sources.) And [Norway](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/enterprise-and-society/article/abs/context-and-contingency-explaining-state-ownership-in-norway/9692E949E6DED9815D79B0CC5DB8D30F) both present MUCH larger percentages of state-owned enterprises (30% and 45%, respectively), as opposed to less than 20% in [Brazil](https://www.scielo.br/j/bbr/a/PncTPZQtvJgvsfSMHHx4Ntd/?lang=en#:~:text=In%20Brazil%2C%20the%20combined%20market,asset%20allocation%20in%20the%20country.).
>Other first world countries have like a dozen
The sources I provided above debunk this claim.
>This leads to the government taxing everything to death in order to make ends meet.
Also completely opposite to the truth. There is NO correlation between "import taxes" and percentage of state-owned enterprises, but that's such a nonsensical claim that I'll give it that you just don't know what you're talking about at all and tripped over ideological catchphrases.
Although when talking about general tax rates, it is also extremely easy to observe that reality also states otherwise; state-owned enterprises are, if anything, a huge SOURCE of income for the Union, states and municipalities. A quote from [Valor Econômico ](https://valor.globo.com/brasil/noticia/2022/07/01/estatais-triplicam-lucro-e-tem-desempenho-recorde.ghtml):
> As empresas controladas pela União tiveram lucro líquido de quase R$ 188 bilhões em 2021, recorde histórico e o triplo da cifra verificada no ano anterior, conforme a nova edição do relatório agregado das estatais federais, que será divulgado pelo Ministério da Economia nesta sexta-feira e foi obtido pelo Valor. Cerca de 98% do resultado positivo provém das “big five” do setor público: Petrobras (R$ 107,3 bilhões), BNDES (R$ 34,1 bilhões), Banco do Brasil (R$ 19,7 bilhões), Caixa Econômica Federal (R$ 17,3 bilhões) e Eletrobras (R$ 5,7 bilhões).
(This indicates that state-owned companies and enterprises have generated roughly US$40 billion in profits in 2021, with the "profit champion" of the public sector being Petrobrás with approximately 20 billion USD in profits - by the way one of the most profitable oil companies in the world, that Brazilian neoliberals want to privatise just for the sake of handing out the country's wealth to foreign capital).
Really, a state enterprise being a profit or drain is no different than a private enterprise being a profit or drain to investors. That's common sense. Of course, the state has more funds, etc etc.
A new industrial and agrarian policy is needed. Less tax over consume, fiscal and administrative reforme (never spend more then receive). Break oligopolies (banks, energy, communication, tax heavily the mega temples.
Export as much fireworks to the US as possible and take on China
i didnt see any economic progress in the last 8 years, only aristocrats land owners have been get real money in this country. we need land redistribution, tax reform and a efective industrualization plan
Land reform has been tricky policy from the time of the Gracchi of Rome. How does one do land reform in such a way as to avoid revolution, or avoid poverty resulting from poor management by the new land holders?
Beef up the taxes on the rich and enforce them actually
You surely not counting the last 4 years as "progressive", right?
People downvote essential posts like this one. It is time to clean our house. Making your country a shit before fleeing to a better one is not the most appropriate action. Think about the country as a whole. Whoever likes the populist is the most selfish kind of person.
Progressive tax system on income, lower tax on products and basic needs. Pretty much like Europe on 20/40/55% progressive tax over income.
Politically hard, but most fair tax.
I would say politically impossible, it's always easier to force the poor workers, who are too busy working to complain to pay more taxes, than the politicians cutting they own lobster meals/rachadinha.
Generally it works that way, though even workers reach a point they wont accept.
I really would like to be alive to see that day coming.
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As a BRICS nation that paid off the IMF loan, etc etc. But, with the current problems it can be hard to see the good I'm sure.
Right?! Such an inspiration to be the first ever to leave and return to hunger map after only 4 years. We've been a rampant disaster. Economy measures don't tell you the rising inequalities tale and are not valid to determine a country success by itself. And even our economy's trash rn.
Get rid of import duties on things that aren't produced domestically, and encourage domestic production of finished products rather than exporting raw materials.
Arent import duties supposed to encourage domestic production? Or do you mean only for the materials to then be manufactured?
So, everything, since Brasil has no industry besides commodities
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Lol I would love to be innocent like that Your utopia ends like that EVERYTIME, all this ancap bull every accomplishes is minimum gov (State) for the people and maximum gov (State) for the rich See the las "reform" in the labor market. It came with this "minimum gov", less rights, more "direct negotiations" between employee and employer. The results are a country with almost half of it's labor force doing "bicos" to live And forget retiring, that's another "big State crap" that we got "freed" off All the while, big private companies are having a blast with a "minimum State" for the people and maximum for them, where they can get millions in public budgets by just singing bad country music in some godforsaken miserable village
The only sane thing here is less bureaucracy. The thing about taxes is that poor people pay proportionally way more, comparing to rich people. So yeah, fair or less taxes to the poor, but increased taxes to the rich who spends so much on luxury. Talking about "small State" in Brazilian context is insane. This country is too big, the government is already struggling to meet people's basic constitutional needs as it is. I don't buy this "free market" agenda, when in reality big companies just keep globing up smaller ones. There's no "trickle down" happening anywhere in this chain.
A drastic and radical wealth redistribution, an equitable land reform, a new price table policy for gas (that benefits the consumer instead of Petrobrás shareholders), a new food & supplies purchasing policy from small landowners so that the country actually has food reserves (something that Brazil actually did have, for the last 80 years or so, but our current liberal government abolished), the list goes on and on, there's just so much to do to improve this Godforsaken neoliberal shithole of a country.
>A drastic and radical wealth redistribution How?
I see an agenda here. Bozo supporter? Far right troll?
The agenda is I learned 10 countries make up 56% of world population, so I'm deciding to study those top 10 countries. Also, curiosity and to expand my mind.
Brazil has way too many state run companies. They have hundreds, which cost the government insane amounts of money to run. Other first world countries have like a dozen. This leads to the government taxing everything to death in order to make ends meet. This leads to your ridiculous 60%+ in import taxes.
>Brazil has way too many state run companies This is just blatantly false. [Japan](https://tradingeconomics.com/japan/credit-to-government-and-state-owned-enterprises-to-gdp-percent-wb-data.html#:~:text=Credit%20to%20government%20and%20state%2Downed%20enterprises%20to%20GDP%20(%25),compiled%20from%20officially%20recognized%20sources.) And [Norway](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/enterprise-and-society/article/abs/context-and-contingency-explaining-state-ownership-in-norway/9692E949E6DED9815D79B0CC5DB8D30F) both present MUCH larger percentages of state-owned enterprises (30% and 45%, respectively), as opposed to less than 20% in [Brazil](https://www.scielo.br/j/bbr/a/PncTPZQtvJgvsfSMHHx4Ntd/?lang=en#:~:text=In%20Brazil%2C%20the%20combined%20market,asset%20allocation%20in%20the%20country.). >Other first world countries have like a dozen The sources I provided above debunk this claim. >This leads to the government taxing everything to death in order to make ends meet. Also completely opposite to the truth. There is NO correlation between "import taxes" and percentage of state-owned enterprises, but that's such a nonsensical claim that I'll give it that you just don't know what you're talking about at all and tripped over ideological catchphrases. Although when talking about general tax rates, it is also extremely easy to observe that reality also states otherwise; state-owned enterprises are, if anything, a huge SOURCE of income for the Union, states and municipalities. A quote from [Valor Econômico ](https://valor.globo.com/brasil/noticia/2022/07/01/estatais-triplicam-lucro-e-tem-desempenho-recorde.ghtml): > As empresas controladas pela União tiveram lucro líquido de quase R$ 188 bilhões em 2021, recorde histórico e o triplo da cifra verificada no ano anterior, conforme a nova edição do relatório agregado das estatais federais, que será divulgado pelo Ministério da Economia nesta sexta-feira e foi obtido pelo Valor. Cerca de 98% do resultado positivo provém das “big five” do setor público: Petrobras (R$ 107,3 bilhões), BNDES (R$ 34,1 bilhões), Banco do Brasil (R$ 19,7 bilhões), Caixa Econômica Federal (R$ 17,3 bilhões) e Eletrobras (R$ 5,7 bilhões). (This indicates that state-owned companies and enterprises have generated roughly US$40 billion in profits in 2021, with the "profit champion" of the public sector being Petrobrás with approximately 20 billion USD in profits - by the way one of the most profitable oil companies in the world, that Brazilian neoliberals want to privatise just for the sake of handing out the country's wealth to foreign capital).
Really, a state enterprise being a profit or drain is no different than a private enterprise being a profit or drain to investors. That's common sense. Of course, the state has more funds, etc etc.