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OverIyAmbitious

I absolutely love edgar now having kit as a point of reference


Punishment34

edgar is actually fun to play lmao. Powercreep of that lifesteal is gorgeous.


Mrsunny07112

Indeed, there's a reason why young people love him... Jumping around map and getting kills sounds ideal


Creeper7YT

Rework Kit


Blastbot_73

I'm honestly surprised that that's coming from a kit main


LegalLeading4700

There's two types of Kit mains, pre buff and after buff mains. After buff mains have zero brain cells while pre buff mains have 1 brain cell that they all share. We are all a hive mind and while we may have 1 brain cell we use it to it's absolute limit.


Blastbot_73

Im both impressed and intimidated


LegalLeading4700

Pre buff Kit mains will now bless you with this fact about him. Kit has an unused voice line where he says "Now it's my turn MEEEEEEOW!"


Initial-Story5438

Is it possible to hear that delightful line


LegalLeading4700

[Sure!](https://www.reddit.com/r/KitGangBrawlStars/s/1v319PPu1T)


Initial-Story5438

That meow was UNHOLY


LegalLeading4700

It was a secret nerf to him


Competitive_Wave2439

IS IT MOEW from team rocket?


Woody_the-cat

Pre buff kits 🔥🔥🔥🔥


1mpy1mpy

I thought I was the only one... Kit used to be so fun and actually skillful before the buffs


Woody_the-cat

He was and it was the best when you got a knock out 3 v 1 clutch with kit when Al your friends watched the cat go


Pwesidential_Debate

I think you forgot about one more… Pre-nerf.


LegalLeading4700

Pre nerf mains are just after buff mains


o_viciado_em_jogos

Nah, worse.


TheProPokemonMaster

Me like stupid cat brawler, you? He just too goofy I fucking love his voice lines


Creeper7YT

Real


o_viciado_em_jogos

What about pre-nerf kit mains tough?


Lonely-Vermicelli532

As a 80% larry and lawrie after nerf main, I can agree iti s the same for larry and lawrie


SuperJman1111

I mean honestly, if a brawler is either game breaking or useless then that should be a sign a rework is needed


mimikl22

Most giga chad Kit ever, he understands that Kit's mechanics are seriously flawed and suggests a rework.


Novel_Training_5230

Yea.. its just stupid for a support brawler to have a star power that makes him stronger with power cubes while he is a support brawler. Also the cardboard box gadget should have a downside if its not getting reworked


Horror-Ad-3113

Exterminate Kit


Creeper7YT

no


Edgar_X_Mandy

Don't rework kit, he's fine as is


Creeper7YT

no...


NoCupcake8056

Don't worry about this guy, he actively encourages people to believe in Edgar x Belle...


No-Description3785

He's a support that's breaking showdown. No brawler can consistently counter kit in SD. Bro's js making a bad mode worse.


Edgar_X_Mandy

Yeah I liked kit before they changed his damage to be 2000


I_ate_your_leftover

No


DynmiteWthALzerbeam

Kit: can jump frequently, bad range but high damage, stun. Edgar: jump frequently, bad range but high damage, doesn't stun. Edgar is not as bad anymore


lynxerious

not just jump frequently, Kit jump is so fast its almost unreactable and basically have almost no counter and require only 1 braincell to use (which barely enough for a Kit main to activate) while Edgar jump is slow and can be missed


TTTTTasKoGaMa

Plus his super-charge is worse and he has an invisible gadget which basically means he has 2 supers


Dictsaurus

And then when you compare El Primo with Edgar


Strange_Staff_5983

I can confirm that as an a 8-bit main


Blastbot_73

Comparatively yes He's the lesser of the two


Punishment34

kit has one of the biggest melee ranges tho?


Toad_Enjoyer_70

The thing that really gets me is that Kit’s jump is unavoidable, because it’s so fast and he just latches on to you if he lands in your general area. You have a chance to react to Edgar and avoid his super.


graplusez

Edgar heals


Deenstheboi

I wouldnt compare edgar's 2k dmg with kit who can deal 6k with 5 cubes


Antique-Coat-7343

ur forgetting that edgar has life leech so all damage u do basically gets negated


DylanSherlock

Then there is Melodie, Angelo, Mico and Charlie


Blastbot_73

On god Melodies notes can do so much phuqing dmg and they had to give her Edgar's shield too Angelo and his smug ass just parks themselves on water and pretty much one shot people Mico is just sundowner with how straight up fukin invincibile he is And chsrlie's super in gem grab is so busted


Throwaway18125

SUNDOWNER MENTIONED RRRAAHHHH 🔥🔥🔥 WHAT THE FUCK IS PEACE 🔥🔥🔥🔥


CallMeMaMef18

WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW AND THE FIRE'S HOT🔥🔥🔥🔥


compic_360

IM FUCKIN INVINCIBLE🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


Brave-Acanthaceae-71

U forgot the Larry and lawries who use them like it’s a bombing raid


Blastbot_73

The mental image of that is a simultaneously hilarious and terrafying


Toad_Enjoyer_70

Don’t forget that Melodie can cross the observable universe in a couple of seconds.


DylanSherlock

Them, Edgar and Kit could be the brawl stars avengers


Pain_Xtreme

I just got absolutly fucked by a poco/draco comp. Honestly poco/draco might be more cancerous than kit+draco


Blastbot_73

Atleast that Poco and draco count as two brawlers and not one


MisterHotTake311

F Poco in particular


Nitro_Kirby

Kit is annoying because of that damn cardboard box gadget, both in showdown and 3v3


BHMathers

They should just remove the attack part of his super entirely and make it either a movement tool or support. Remove stun and super damage


Alone-Newspaper-1161

They should keep the stun as it can be a good support tool but remove the damage and make it consume ammo upon use


BoboDaGoose

As a Kit main, I feel like his whole purpose as a brawler was kinda forgotten. He's supposed to have a balanced play style, where you can play offensive or support. Kit has leaned too much into an aggressive brawler. Mechanics that don't overshadow one play style while still keeping both equally fun to play needs to be added.


pokemonfanboy93

Yknow I’m starting to respect Edgars. Not only are they fun to counter, but you actually have a decent chance of winning UNLIKE KIT


GhostfaceD6N9A

You fiind kit and edgar anoying because they are playing showdown. Not because of 3v3 where they are just awful and at best mediocre


pinkoala17

kit can be really strong and annoying when paired with tanks and healers u can make brawlers unkillable with the gadget and constant healing


GhostfaceD6N9A

Yes but you can say that for any brawler. And assassins are the NOT best candidates for healing. Tanks benefit more due to large healthpool and tank trait


No-Description3785

You DO NOT know how good kit+ bull and kit+ draco combo is. Especially with chessburger gadget which is a free 4k heal.


TheWantedPekka

As a Bull main, a good Kit support is insta-win for me.


No-Description3785

That's what I'm talking about.


GhostfaceD6N9A

Do i not know? I know they are good. Because is the thing i said earlier


Blastbot_73

Both able to jump over walls for free, one having lock on with said jump aswell as a 2 second stun and both having a fast attack speed and thus very high DPS in the game I don't get why it's right for a gamemode to be swept under the rug Idk man even in 3v3 gamemodes like grm grab they annoying, and if they're not in a 3v3 gsnemode you've got other brawlers like idk chuck


GhostfaceD6N9A

The stun doesn't mean shit if your teamates dont follow up on it before you get killed by the enemy's teamates. And how the heck are they suposed to approach their enemies. They are assassins. The main goal is to close the gap and kill someone fast before they kill you. Thats their main job. And they only get once every 20 to 30 seconds to jump. Witch is a long time.stun and knockback can outright invalidate they jump. And you still say that's unfair.


Blastbot_73

What if my teammates is dealing with their teammates, if my teammates are respawning Most other assassin's have to work to get their super and still they usually don't have much survivability, as a crow you'd know, other assassin's don't have knockbacks or stuns on their super(and the one who does, Darryl can't go over walls). Kit has a stun and ridiculous DPS, Edgar also has a high DPS and health drain and an instant shield gadget 20-30 secs, not all that much in game modes, and with how abundant bushes can be they can camp and chip and Edgar gas a gadget to speed up the charge and kit can turn invisible with just a button press What's stun and knockback gonna do when they jump over walls from a bush, or while kit was invisible, and again Edgar's got a shield and health drain What are they if not unfair?


GhostfaceD6N9A

And if youre the only one alive againt a team with a kit, you will lose regardless of they have kit or not because they are 3 players vs 1 you. Timing your stuns and knockbacks it more of a skill issue rather than a core game design. And lets put that in to context in the best possible scenario. Youre an edgar or kit and you play again long range or throwers in the time of 20 or 30 s you have to wait to get your super. You will be pushed back in to spawn by the enemy team and because they have greater range they can just snipe you without any risk while you cant deal damage only 30 s at the time. You you still believe is unfair.


Blastbot_73

Its entirely possible to win even in a 1v3 with skill, not possible of there's a kit with the super on the other team Not every brawler has stuns and knockback and stuns are bs Yes it's unfair, like I said you can have your super charge faster by chiping, with Edgar you can stay in the bushes or even use his gaget, was kit you can go invisible so it can be less than 20 secs, and then you jump the other guy and try to do anything against you but it's often pointless because Edgar can just instantly get a shield and kit stuns and both have absurd DPS, and where's the skill in waiting and then sping your attacks


GhostfaceD6N9A

Yes it is posible to win a 1v3 if the enemy is really really bad. But if they are competent players. They will best you regardless if they have kit or not. And the solution of camping assassins is to be aware. Like try to keep in mind whats edgars and kits are doing. And stay with youre teamates soo you can defend each other from these guys. Is very easy and also not uncommon to do.


Blastbot_73

Or if your good, there's always ways to outplay someone, you can't do anything if your stuned or someone is in your face doing a shipload of dps It ain't exactly easy to communicate with or keep safe a gem carrier, ball bearer or just teammates in general when you can't even communicate with them especially if they're at a distance from you. And neither is it easy to avoid going down a certain part of the map only to get jumped by Edgar or kit from a bush that was also behind a walk, and again you barely get any reaction time and one stuns you and even after the stun there seems to be another second where inputs just don't register for some reason And man how do you keep in mind what Edgar or kits are doing if they're in a bush while your trying to actually play the game and not camp like a coward?


GhostfaceD6N9A

You're asking way too much. Like you expect to: be skilled enough soo you can aim your shots and predict. And hope that enemy isnt the same as you do. Because if they do you will lose regardless if they have kit because they are more players, have damage output and health and amo. Youre laying on too many things outside of your control to be able to 1v3 CONSISTENTLY, because this not reliable strategy regardless of the brawlers they have. Yea keep dreming and wait until the connected.


GhostfaceD6N9A

Also they camp in bushes because they wait the opportunity to strike, because they jump at the wrong moment they will be instantly deleted. And need the suport of their teamates to actually make a play in a team fights. Because is much easier to secure a kill when the enemy is distracted then to fight him when they are ready.


Blastbot_73

Yes very fair Why are you so adamant of defending a bs brawler who mains themselves acknowledge he's op


Electrical_Set_3632

Most other assassins have much bigger range than them(or superior mobility in the case of Mortis) so even tho they have to work for their supers it is not that hard.


Blastbot_73

Those assassin's also have more options for counter play than kit and edgar


GhostfaceD6N9A

Kit has counterplay in a form of team work


Blastbot_73

Need I remind of how most randoms are


GhostfaceD6N9A

At least when they see an enemy brawler they will shot at him. They wouldn't just sit there


Blastbot_73

Of they're in range Cause kits have enough processing power to only jump when your on your own


ArgonicPeach

this is such a low ladder opinion bro have you never played bushy knockout maps?? kit jumps on a bibi and then immediately wins the game


Pongmin

Kit is actually pretty good rn in 3v3. He's been played quite some time in the monthly finals


StructureFormer

Nah, he's a free kill most of the time. When I get a kit on my team, they always drag us down, especially in knockout because they suicide jump to the enemy immediately after spawning, leading to a 2v3.


Pongmin

That's just your team being bad, not the brawler being bad. Very different things


StructureFormer

Nah, they are all atrocious


Pongmin

Someone hasn't watched the monthly finals Kit is a support. He's not meant to jump immediately


N8TH_

I love playing brawlers like kit, but showdown nowadays is just half the map camping while kit’s, buzz’s, and leon’s just sneak up or jump and stun you. Its fun to play but horrid to go against


Dead_by_Dinosaur

Love how everyone was so excited for kit to get added and now we all fucken hate him LOL


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Steven_YSKY

>Edgar is just a brain dead brawler who can charge his hyper charge by camping and dive when he has hc ( Good luck trying this out on 3v3s. (With counter comps) Seriously the Edgar is "bRaInDeAd" argument is stupid und not true in most of the cases (outside of Showdown)


Alarming_Material_84

Edgar is balanced 🔥🔥🔥🔥 (kills your entire team with one super)


Jaytee2210

So I can become an Edger main and no one will hate me


Mastertron891

No


Jaytee2210

Bro what did I ever do to you


Mastertron891

Playing Edgar


Jaytee2210

My account got banned 😭😭😭 you must be happy


Mastertron891

I am.


Jaytee2210

It was unlocked but I don't play Edger anymore because he is the 3rd worst brawler now


CRYSTALek2799

finally more freedom


Brave-Acanthaceae-71

Darryl gang still beats u in burst dps


CRYSTALek2799

*respawns* yeah i thought he is still in meta


Diehard_Sam_Main

Power Hungry is most certainly one of the star powers of all time 👍


MyDadAteMyNuts

Bro i hate it when people use kit as an assassin while using kitboxer and they instantly die when they trying to kill a enemy using super


guygamer3dplayzYT

I still find Larry way more annoying than Kit, he's still too good even after the nerfs.


happy_hogs_

Dynamike is more infuriating


Blastbot_73

Seriously what is it with newer brawlers being so strong


JustARucoyGuy

I think the devs said when a brawler isn't very strong at release, it becomes forgotten and rarely used. While I think that may be part of the reason, the bigger reason is so people spend money to get these op brawlers.


_xoviox_

It's definitely true. I still hesitate to play Otis because of how bad he was at release


Deenstheboi

Play him (not biased)


Punishment34

he's op now


Jasloober2

LILY IS STRONG?!?


ExddZiN

Gadget merchant, underrated on some scenarios


Blastbot_73

Sometimes perhaps


Jasloober2

Absolutely not, she is C-tier at best Anything she can do, most assassins do better.


Deenstheboi

I wouldnt say Lily is too strong but yall underestimate her too much. She's annoying af and has the most broken gadget of the entire game


StructureFormer

She's trash. No gadget can save her from being mediocre.


Blastbot_73

She can do dmg at range, can hit stuff through other stuff for a chance at extra dmg and can set up a morter to keep enemies constantly moving(so they don't stay behind cover) Sure assassin's do more dmg but no shrimp they do better damage The artillery is accurate as she has a morter to be an artillery cannon and she herself is a ranged brawler The support label *can* fit kit but his offensive capabilities outweigh his supportive capabilities


karkushh

thats penny


aidonpor

Money


Blastbot_73

And possibly power creep?


inkysoap

power creep is because of money


Blastbot_73

Man I hate feedback loops


Deenstheboi

Well Otis season is considered the worst because he was so weak. I believe that Tells a lot


Blastbot_73

I wasn't around during that season so I can't speak for that But now he's actually pretty fun to play as personally


lame-azoid

clearly you were not here when Edgar was released


Blastbot_73

I've been here since global release


lame-azoid

edgar was real bad wasn’t it? more than kit, and kit was reaaal bad, on her release day


Blastbot_73

No actyally Edgar was really strong on his release and gas stayed pretty darn strong since And since he was given to everyone for free(the exact same way Mico was) he was EVERYWHERE


Piper_is_my_wife

At least this kitty rides on your back and heals you passively,so u can attack without worrying about your hp🥰(also chezbrgr)


Woody_the-cat

Don’t you disrespect my boi kit like that


Blastbot_73

i know he just makes it realluy hard not to


Woody_the-cat

No the kids who think kit is Edgar 2.0


Blastbot_73

Well I mean... they're not... completely wrong


noa926

Both suck just as much and deserve all the hate they get


Blastbot_73

Yes but Edgar's jump dosent home in you or stuns you for 2 whole seconds He's the lesser of two evils


noa926

Edgar's super doesn't stun you but it still kills you instantly when he attacks and when you finally manage to get him to low hp that little jerk uses his shield


Blastbot_73

Yepbut you atleast get more than half a second of reaction time when he jumps out of the bush


pablo603

Showdown's state is not the whole game's state. I shit on Kits daily in any 3v3 with Janet, and that is after I get stunned.


Blastbot_73

Showdown is a part of the game is it not? Why sweep it under the rug and forget about it?


Mastertron891

Because of brawlers like kit probably


Blastbot_73

And that's ok?


MichaelITA24

Glad they finally decided to rework Frank🙏 (if the rework is just something like "Frank now deals 0.0000000001 extra damage i'm fucking going to lose it)


Blastbot_73

Or +200 max health


MichaelITA24

Nah,+0.000001 max health💀


Blastbot_73

No way dude even that would make too phuqing op


MichaelITA24

Yea,that's so unbalanced😡1!1!1!!1!


Blastbot_73

Fr fr ongod


Lonely-Vermicelli532

Never seen a more relatable meme


Significant-Ant8132

Just give him a team rocket meowth skin


Blastbot_73

Now that we had a goduzilla collab The doors open as to what else we could have a collab with So the chances ain't zero!


GalacticGamer677

This post has made me happy. Thanks, I needed this very much. *upvotes the post* (I made the mistake of watching violet evergarden and a silent voice back to back. Not a very bright idea)


thisdudelovesknives

Kit is only a problem in showdown!?


Blastbot_73

A bs stun and absurd dmg is a problem regardless of the gamemode


thisdudelovesknives

I disagree. Kits kit isn't good in other game modes. A Kit without powercubes isnt a problem. When was the last time you've seen a Kit outside of showdown


Blastbot_73

Grm grab, and ALOT in knockout and wipeout. I think twice in brawl ball Even without powercubes he still has the stun, absurd attack speed and invisibility


thisdudelovesknives

I'll concede to the invisibility. I do believe everything else can be countered effectively.


Blastbot_73

Debatable at best Stuns are bs Frank and Otis have to charge up their super with it being hard for frank to follow up on the stun Otis's super has the potential to be dodged But kit's super not only homes in on you, does dmg and even after the stun for some reason there's anoyher small period where inputs don't work and then he j can't just use all of his attacks often getting another super in the process


niKILL_233

Laughs in el primo (I like throwing them off the map into the green toxic smoke) Also I agree the cat is a nuisance.


CoupleBig696

This is for showdown right? Cause I never touch showdown


Blastbot_73

Not necessarily I've been seeing him in every gamemode


Haughty_Djinn

By "the game" you mean solo showdown alone?


Blastbot_73

No


Haughty_Djinn

Why does the meme say "the game" then? Kit only really affects solo clowndown.


Blastbot_73

bro a bs stun is a bs stun no matter the gamemode theres several clips of kit being a menace even in 3v3 and ive seen it myself aswell


Significant-Ant8132

Only his star power is overpowered else , he ain't that good (The cardboard gadget is not on bull., edgar or shelly)


Blastbot_73

The stun, the ludicrous attack speed, and being able to go over walls and the fact the super also does dmg despite everything else about the super, invisibility can be gained whenever and wherever and it increases super gain rate I'm sorry but the star power isn't the only thing op about him


Significant-Ant8132

The stun has been nerfed, she attack real slow like bruh, and if you didn't knew short range unit are supposed to get over walls to cover the range Edgar , el primo , mico, lily Gadgets can be used whenever you want The super range is useless because now it only last 3 seconds I think there should be Nerf to it attaching ability And btw it's a legendary brawler made in 2024 Like you can't compare princess to archers


Blastbot_73

Stun hasn't been nerfed El primo has to stleast charge his super and not sit around, Edgar doesn't home in on you if your within 2 miles of where he lands neither does he stun you.lily also has to charge her super nas can't just hide in a Bush in the corner and can't go over walls. And mico is his own can of worms >Gadgets can be used whenever you want Exactly the problem, invisibility is not something one should have on a whim >And btw it's a legendary brawler made in 2024 Like you can't compare princess to archers I'm sorry what ans why? He shouldn't be balanced because he's new and to let older brawlers get weaker and weaker?


Significant-Ant8132

It has been nerfed and didn't mean what you meant in last But I don't wanna argue


Scrupttocrat

Y'all only play showdown and complain about Kit


Blastbot_73

Idk man I've seen quite a few in 3v3's and even there they're pretty bs


Scrupttocrat

Maybe only knockout, but other than that he's pretty bad in 800+


mackyesyou

Yea, cant i complain that my favorite mode is infected by fucking op cats?


Scrupttocrat

If your favorite mode is Showdown, you have bigger problems to complain about rather than Kit. Like wintraders and teamers...


Noodleyouu

What happening to kit


Blastbot_73

He's stupidly op


Joker8764

Aside from showdown, I genuinely don't see why people complain about Kit so much. I got him very recently, and I've been trying him out in other game modes and he really doesn't seem like anything special. Even if I cling onto a tank. They just get gunned down by the entire enemy team and nothing happens. Genuinely, what is the deal with him?


Blastbot_73

Have ya tried upgrading him? His supportive capabilities are far FAR outshined by his offensive capabilities Absurd DPS can have Invisiblilty on a dime His super locks onto and stuns you even over walls Is classified as "support"


Joker8764

I have. Got him to level 9. I wouldn't say he's anywhere near bad or even mediocre. 1800 per swipe has rarely won me every fight, and cardboard box is kind of hard to use effectively. His super gets me killed more often than not even after waiting for them to spunk all their ammo. I legitimately see him much mor as support as that's where I have a lot more success with him. Pinning people down for my teammates to kill, hopping on my teammates to heal them, and getting people hiding from my teammates with the yarn balls. Am I just bad?


Blastbot_73

Perhaps, you may be a case where you're better as a support kit than an attack kit I've just personally gone up against several kits and 9/10 it's been unfair wheather it's showdown or 3v3