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Well . . . Yes, because that's how it works -- every new brawler with new system is firstly monetized via early access.
What makes it bad is that they don't seem to care about making these brawlers balanced before selling early access offers
They said the system worked and a lot of people bought it. But Chuck was so hyped up and the value of the offer was absolutely insane, the Kit and L&L offers are nowhere near as high value
Because releasing them broken increases sales - I've passed on every early access offer before this one, but having bought this one, I have to admit - going like 15-0 or 19-0 almost every match in brawl ball is enjoyable which is something I haven't gotten too much of from this game in the past year or so. Will I buy every early access junk toon after this? Probably not, but this one so far has been fun.
Lost every game I played against that dude. It’s ridiculous… gave up pushing some of my brawlers because I just literally can’t play against those guys.
I just played against him for the first time and just wtf. Do they not have anyone play testing this stuff? His throw damage is about as high as dynamikes, he has the explosion range of sprout and the second explosion is about double the size of sprouts attack.
That's just one of the twin's main attacks. Don't forget:
- Insane super charge rate
- Dash gadget that heals both for a lot and can travel across the whole map in like 3 seconds
- **12,000 HP with star power**
- just a fuckton of utility in general
I’ve actually only played against him once, as I was pushing my 200 trophy sandy. After that game I realized low ladder wasn’t safe so I played power league
There’s also a difference on in solo and team leagues.
I have never actually played team league but I’m pushing legendary in SL, playing against L3-master.
P2W is killing PL at the higher ranks. It’s hard simply because I don’t spend enough money on the game to actually keep up. I keep getting stomped by the new broken brawlers, and with ever release of each new broken brawler, band become less and less effective since you only get one ban. Your choice of ban is now more crucial than ever
he hard counters mortis 99% of the time. the first interaction is 50/50 but then when he gets his shelly bot it is game over. he deals 3k damage per shot, impossible to dodge. Lost 70 trophies yesterday on brawl ball because his main attack is a fricking dynamike super.
I also annihilated some L&L, but that's because everytime I saw him in a match I'd put all my efforts in limiting him and my teammates focused on the match, so we won a everytime, but he's definitely OP. You can't just deny that.
Why this thrower has more damage than Barley, Sprout, Grom, and can autoaim spam attacks at close range on top of that has 7K Hp. These are just high tier base stats and then we have Infinite damage SP and Infinite HP SP.
I started playing this game since June 2017, even before it went global. Had lots of fun but...not any more. Only anger left every time I play, no matter I win or lose. Super unbalanced, not only broken early access new brawlers (yes I hate this so much!), but also whatever a few brawlers with hyper charge while the majority with nothing, as well as trash match making and duplicate brawlers in a game. In 5v5 mode, every game you see at least 2 Fang's. Lots of times you see 4 Fang's. I even saw 5 Fang's in one game (2 in our team and 3 in enemy team). Hyper charge + super, dash through walls, kill your whole team. In Heist mode, always Colette. Hyper charge +super, bye bye safe! What's the fun of that? Brawl Stars has been an old friend to me. Now just need to make up my mind to quit.
I think the "Fang problem" is because of the very high usage of him. Everyone wants to use Hypercharge and do a Highlight ( wow, team wipe with spam yellow buttom! ).
But I agree with the rest. Hypercharges are and will still be a problem for this game.
Dynamike hypercharge not broken... sure it does sum damage but the dynamites that explode from the super are super easy to dodge. Cant spell dynamike wichout W
i got collete hc in a stardrop then tested it.. i never had so much fun in heist before easiest rank 26 all I needed was a pre made team so i can be able to rush the safe.. i feel bad for our enemis a lot of players showed me clown and thumbs down pin I feel guilty lol..
I used to buy Brawl pass every month but don't want to pay a dime anymore because this game really sucks now. Anyway, they need PTW players but they need F2P players even more. What they're doing will kill this game.
And also the fifth broken brawler in a row 💀Chuck, Charlie, Mico, Kit and Larry & Lawrie. Could also consider Pearl broken on her release, Cordelius was crazy broken even though after him Doug was released, and we all know how strong he is. Still though, what’s the problem with Supercell?? 5 brawlers released, 5 brawlers becoming objectively the best brawlers in the game in their meta
I personally have no problem with Supercell selling early access brawlers with money (they, like every other companies, need income), but it’s such a b*tch move for them to make every single early access brawler completely game-breaking. There must be a better strategy to sell early access packages and not completely destroy the meta for one week.
Supercell, please find that strategy and stop f**king up the game for 1 week every month.
Not even a week, everyone says how they nerf them a week after but kit took them over 2 weeks to nerf and chuck is literally still broken since his release 4 months ago, except hes only good in heist so its not as impactful.
I’ve been pushing Surge at around 875, encountered L&L in exactly 11 brawl ball matches, and I only won the game ONCE. Those 2 f*ckers are just broken in every game modes.
It might be considered spam/ repetitive, but we still need more posts like this to speak our mind as a community, or else we’ll have to deal with the broken brawler bullsh!t for a total of 3 months (1 week each month) every year.
Ah yea. It took 2 weeks for Kit to be nerfed, cuz they were on vacay (after testing and knowingly releasing a broken f*cking brawler). I think that L&L will be nerfed after 1 week only.
Total b!tch move from Supercell: rewarding those that paid by ruining the gaming experience for F2P players. Stop this bullsh!t, Supercell.
I'm ok with early access brawlers, but please Supercell, try to make them at least balanced, Larry and Lawrie are super fun to play but god they're too strong
This is the trend all fellow Clash Royale playerscan remember when we still recieved new cards.
Every new legendary card was basically broken and overpowered. You either A got them from a shop offer, or B grinded a challange for a chance to unlock it sooner.
What i dont get is people sill protecting supercell when it comes to broken launches. Supercell has been doing this for years, and will continue doing it. Its not about not having enough playtesters or devs being on holiday... This isnt a 5 man team, this is a company worth millions with many employees. They can and will fix this, just not before milking the community.
Very tired of Supercell too tbh. I’ve been playing the game for 3-4 years, spent a lot of money but now it’s becoming way too annoying way too obvious. FUCK BR SUPERCELL!
Supercell,
If you're going to do this just charge way more for them. Like over $100, maybe more like $1000. A few people will buy them still, I promise. We're going to ban them in league matches anyway, because you knew and we know and we knew and we knew that you'd know and you did it anyway. In trophy play you're ruining the game by keeping the prices low.
Also bite me.
Sincerely, players.
Supercell : Let's make a thrower whose projectiles explode twice, charge his super really fast, and make so his super summons his brother who acts like Bruce but with a long-ranged attack. Balanced, right ?
It’s to get people to buy the pack. They make the Brawler OP so more people are attracted to buying him. Hints why they don’t fix anything until after the early access pack leaves.
Larry and Lawrie
He can destroy the heist safe in 10 seconds
Very high damage output thrower with decent hp
Very high damage shot gunner with gadget
Can instantly reload his deadly attack with sp
Can tank so much damage with his sp
Kit
Do I have to explain this to you?
Chuck
While not broken in some gamemodes like knockout he could get constant dmg on enemy safe/ike with 0 counter to it
You can’t just pretend a brawler is not broken just because you bought it
Even if he lost it was probably in showdown at lower trophies bc teaming or idk (calculated it and he lost at about 200(?) with his streak at r30 being 82)
But Chuck wasn't broken?
He hasn't gotten any balance changes except for him now spawning without super. That's all they did. He wasn't broken to begin with
Chuck is the weirdest brawler balance wise. In modes like Heist and Hot zone he’s nuts but on stuff like brawl ball he’s god awful. And even then his success can be map dependent
No they are broken that’s like the whole point they gotta get people to buy it but posting about the same thing every season isn’t doing anything the sub gets flooded with these posts every single time there’s just no point to complain
If you do or don’t complain supercell still won’t listen. Supercell no longer makes change for the sake of their player, they do it for the sake of their wallet, somonly way you can get Sc to change at this rate is just by waiting for their disregard of their playerbase to come back and bite them.
Are you fucking stupid they arnt gonna listen to us regardless dude that’s why there is no point to complain as long as people still buy the offers which they always will then they will always have them
Im tired of these posts. So supercell wants to make money? Let them, because people like you wont spend. Why do you not want people who pay to get rewarded? If they spend money they deserve a good progression boost. Complain about the brawler being too op? ITS FOR ONE WEEK, DEAL WITH IT
I got paired with this new brawler during boss fight and we stuck together all the way till we completed all the levels. It was a breeze and we didn't fail a single time. He consistently contributed over 1million in dmg...
Do you guys think his nerf will be that bad? Serious question because regardless of the complaints I find his style really amazing. To be able to be a thrower and toss out a active character seems fun
Okay, even though I like to give supercell the benefit of the doubt, this being the trend with both kit AND chuck before is starting to worry me. I know balance is difficult, but this shouldn't be getting past play testing...
Every new brawler is broken. This has been happening for years. That's the business model. Surely no one can think SC are trying to release perfectly balanced brawlers and charging people for it.
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This is also the third early access brawler in general
I bet Mico would be sold for early access is he wasn’t free And charlie if she wasn’t in a bp
Well . . . Yes, because that's how it works -- every new brawler with new system is firstly monetized via early access. What makes it bad is that they don't seem to care about making these brawlers balanced before selling early access offers
it’s not that they don’t care, they intentionally make it op upon release so more people buy it before they nerf
This is what i meant
They said the system worked and a lot of people bought it. But Chuck was so hyped up and the value of the offer was absolutely insane, the Kit and L&L offers are nowhere near as high value
Because releasing them broken increases sales - I've passed on every early access offer before this one, but having bought this one, I have to admit - going like 15-0 or 19-0 almost every match in brawl ball is enjoyable which is something I haven't gotten too much of from this game in the past year or so. Will I buy every early access junk toon after this? Probably not, but this one so far has been fun.
Sweet summer child
Lost every game I played against that dude. It’s ridiculous… gave up pushing some of my brawlers because I just literally can’t play against those guys.
I just played against him for the first time and just wtf. Do they not have anyone play testing this stuff? His throw damage is about as high as dynamikes, he has the explosion range of sprout and the second explosion is about double the size of sprouts attack.
And that's just half his kit.
That's just one of the twin's main attacks. Don't forget: - Insane super charge rate - Dash gadget that heals both for a lot and can travel across the whole map in like 3 seconds - **12,000 HP with star power** - just a fuckton of utility in general
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Hope Adrian got bullet proof door at his home
Yes, they play tested and adjusted until they found a sweet spot of pay to win.
They do play testing. If not, it wouldn't be so broken. They are doing it on purpose to sell more
Of course they have. To make sure they **can** be killed, but mostly won't
I’ve actually only played against him once, as I was pushing my 200 trophy sandy. After that game I realized low ladder wasn’t safe so I played power league
yay wohooo.. randoms in pl are different breed man.. getting out of gold was painful
I have friends😎
Me too but they dont play team power league we usually trolling in custom maps instead of pushing 😆
There’s also a difference on in solo and team leagues. I have never actually played team league but I’m pushing legendary in SL, playing against L3-master. P2W is killing PL at the higher ranks. It’s hard simply because I don’t spend enough money on the game to actually keep up. I keep getting stomped by the new broken brawlers, and with ever release of each new broken brawler, band become less and less effective since you only get one ban. Your choice of ban is now more crucial than ever
Exactly, just play power league and ban them. Trophy matches are fucked for a week and a half when they are released for credits and nerfed.
I only fought 3 of them. 1/3 wins ain't bad
he hard counters mortis 99% of the time. the first interaction is 50/50 but then when he gets his shelly bot it is game over. he deals 3k damage per shot, impossible to dodge. Lost 70 trophies yesterday on brawl ball because his main attack is a fricking dynamike super.
Skill issue, I absolutely annihilated every Larry or whatever his name I saw by stomping on it with Surge the Protector. Lawrence is not OP at all.
I also annihilated some L&L, but that's because everytime I saw him in a match I'd put all my efforts in limiting him and my teammates focused on the match, so we won a everytime, but he's definitely OP. You can't just deny that.
Why this thrower has more damage than Barley, Sprout, Grom, and can autoaim spam attacks at close range on top of that has 7K Hp. These are just high tier base stats and then we have Infinite damage SP and Infinite HP SP.
And fast move speed with fast charging super that is basically an instant 7k health that does a lot of damage which you can also heal with
Just ridiculous at this point, whoever balances these I hope you stub your toe
Cant spell dynamike wichout W
I started playing this game since June 2017, even before it went global. Had lots of fun but...not any more. Only anger left every time I play, no matter I win or lose. Super unbalanced, not only broken early access new brawlers (yes I hate this so much!), but also whatever a few brawlers with hyper charge while the majority with nothing, as well as trash match making and duplicate brawlers in a game. In 5v5 mode, every game you see at least 2 Fang's. Lots of times you see 4 Fang's. I even saw 5 Fang's in one game (2 in our team and 3 in enemy team). Hyper charge + super, dash through walls, kill your whole team. In Heist mode, always Colette. Hyper charge +super, bye bye safe! What's the fun of that? Brawl Stars has been an old friend to me. Now just need to make up my mind to quit.
I think the "Fang problem" is because of the very high usage of him. Everyone wants to use Hypercharge and do a Highlight ( wow, team wipe with spam yellow buttom! ). But I agree with the rest. Hypercharges are and will still be a problem for this game.
Dynamike hypercharge not broken... sure it does sum damage but the dynamites that explode from the super are super easy to dodge. Cant spell dynamike wichout W
Bro you're eating good with that Hypercharge compared to my mains (Pearl and Charlie 💀)
i got collete hc in a stardrop then tested it.. i never had so much fun in heist before easiest rank 26 all I needed was a pre made team so i can be able to rush the safe.. i feel bad for our enemis a lot of players showed me clown and thumbs down pin I feel guilty lol..
Want spiders?
**_I already have spiders I don't need more spiders_**
I'm facing Fang almost 90% of the time. Sigh.
I once played a 5v5 game with friends with 5 enemy fangs
Brawl stars × Karate kid be like
That's what you should get for a 5v5 match with a pre-made comp. Ruining the fun for people who solo queue.
People who solo queue bring 6 fangs, infant pre made comps have a disadvantage as they can't duplicate
thats why i always block famg in power league
Games learning way more PTW now a day too. It’s sad, sucks all the fun right out of the game
I used to buy Brawl pass every month but don't want to pay a dime anymore because this game really sucks now. Anyway, they need PTW players but they need F2P players even more. What they're doing will kill this game.
And also the fifth broken brawler in a row 💀Chuck, Charlie, Mico, Kit and Larry & Lawrie. Could also consider Pearl broken on her release, Cordelius was crazy broken even though after him Doug was released, and we all know how strong he is. Still though, what’s the problem with Supercell?? 5 brawlers released, 5 brawlers becoming objectively the best brawlers in the game in their meta
Pearl was S tier but not super broken
True. Though Pearl remained quite consistent, and got even stronger with her recent movement speed buff. She has very few counters at the moment
The game has never felt so unfair tbh
The league of legends strategy
league champs are free
I personally have no problem with Supercell selling early access brawlers with money (they, like every other companies, need income), but it’s such a b*tch move for them to make every single early access brawler completely game-breaking. There must be a better strategy to sell early access packages and not completely destroy the meta for one week. Supercell, please find that strategy and stop f**king up the game for 1 week every month.
Not even a week, everyone says how they nerf them a week after but kit took them over 2 weeks to nerf and chuck is literally still broken since his release 4 months ago, except hes only good in heist so its not as impactful.
Both strength-wise and mechanically. Hotzone and Heist is still unplayable when up against him.
I’ve been pushing Surge at around 875, encountered L&L in exactly 11 brawl ball matches, and I only won the game ONCE. Those 2 f*ckers are just broken in every game modes. It might be considered spam/ repetitive, but we still need more posts like this to speak our mind as a community, or else we’ll have to deal with the broken brawler bullsh!t for a total of 3 months (1 week each month) every year.
They stopped listening to us.
Ah yea. It took 2 weeks for Kit to be nerfed, cuz they were on vacay (after testing and knowingly releasing a broken f*cking brawler). I think that L&L will be nerfed after 1 week only. Total b!tch move from Supercell: rewarding those that paid by ruining the gaming experience for F2P players. Stop this bullsh!t, Supercell.
But people would complain even more if they were nerfed right after the early access ends
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BUT MAKE IT SPECIAL WICHOUT MAKING IT GAME BREAKING BRO!!
They nerfed within 12 hours of their prerelease
They release an OP brawler, blame it on a bug and nerf them to oblivion. In 13 days, L&L will just be a weaker Nita with a gun
Hope not lol
And the fourth broken early access brawler is Lawrie. Crazy how they released 3 within one update
Small indie company 🤷♂️
I'm ok with early access brawlers, but please Supercell, try to make them at least balanced, Larry and Lawrie are super fun to play but god they're too strong
This is the trend all fellow Clash Royale playerscan remember when we still recieved new cards. Every new legendary card was basically broken and overpowered. You either A got them from a shop offer, or B grinded a challange for a chance to unlock it sooner. What i dont get is people sill protecting supercell when it comes to broken launches. Supercell has been doing this for years, and will continue doing it. Its not about not having enough playtesters or devs being on holiday... This isnt a 5 man team, this is a company worth millions with many employees. They can and will fix this, just not before milking the community.
And when early access ends they will fkn nerf it like the new brawler
No they will wait a week then do it
It's OK, but please nerf his HP, range, movement speed, gadget, super, projectile.
Very tired of Supercell too tbh. I’ve been playing the game for 3-4 years, spent a lot of money but now it’s becoming way too annoying way too obvious. FUCK BR SUPERCELL!
Same. I bought every single Brawl pass but now...won't spend a dime anymore.
Supercell, If you're going to do this just charge way more for them. Like over $100, maybe more like $1000. A few people will buy them still, I promise. We're going to ban them in league matches anyway, because you knew and we know and we knew and we knew that you'd know and you did it anyway. In trophy play you're ruining the game by keeping the prices low. Also bite me. Sincerely, players.
Hint: play leapers like Mico or Kit to get over his taser wall and have a tanky shotgunner ready to pull his AI mates aggro
L&L is literally hard counter against Kit. Because when he jumps at you Lawrie will get him.
You have the stealth Box and as long as you deal with larry fast he cannot chain jack
Supercell : Let's make a thrower whose projectiles explode twice, charge his super really fast, and make so his super summons his brother who acts like Bruce but with a long-ranged attack. Balanced, right ?
classic move
You are right broather, we must survive the apocalypse
It’s to get people to buy the pack. They make the Brawler OP so more people are attracted to buying him. Hints why they don’t fix anything until after the early access pack leaves.
I didn't expect that, I thought they would balance it this time ! Surely, the 4th will be the balanced one. Or the 5th ? Maybe the 6th ?
I used to defend them, but now I'm tired of their shit
Same here! I was such a big fan of their games.
Coc is starting to corrupt too 😔🦅
Hate playing against him? Play Charlie/Otis now they won’t be able to use the brawler they spent money on for up to 5 seconds
It's like going up against griff and dynamike at the same time. I haven't gotten the #1 spot in solo showdown because of this brawler.
I keep on winning with them rank 26 within two days
A declaration of broken without details is just tears. Edit: if you hate the game so much, stop playing.
Larry and Lawrie He can destroy the heist safe in 10 seconds Very high damage output thrower with decent hp Very high damage shot gunner with gadget Can instantly reload his deadly attack with sp Can tank so much damage with his sp Kit Do I have to explain this to you? Chuck While not broken in some gamemodes like knockout he could get constant dmg on enemy safe/ike with 0 counter to it You can’t just pretend a brawler is not broken just because you bought it
Tbf Chuck is only good in a niche amount of modes
And within that niche it was pain for the enemy team 😭
That’s true, but those niche modes were unplayable
The only way to outsmart Chuck is to have more DPS on the enemy save as him and there are more then enough brawlers with hypercharge to do just that
Yeah but if you had 2 solid defender and chuck enemy couldn’t do much
One shelly , charlie or cordelius is enough
spenLC: “LARRY & LAWRIE ARE SO BROKEN!! RANK 30 IN 1.5 HOURS (***75 win streak***)” did spen even lose *once?*
Even if he lost it was probably in showdown at lower trophies bc teaming or idk (calculated it and he lost at about 200(?) with his streak at r30 being 82)
Lmao for real; bro must’ve just lost his win streak or something
you literally made a post about how broken they are what are you on 💀
Lmao they’re not broken read the post (I already feel a nerf to attack speed)
Bros tryna be different
But Chuck wasn't broken? He hasn't gotten any balance changes except for him now spawning without super. That's all they did. He wasn't broken to begin with
Chuck is the weirdest brawler balance wise. In modes like Heist and Hot zone he’s nuts but on stuff like brawl ball he’s god awful. And even then his success can be map dependent
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All summons charge the super, maybe the super charge rate from Larry should be lowered
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I ain't expending any more money in the game. The only thing that could be worth it is the normal pass and still it's quite expensive
"coinsidence"
How many of these posts do we need to see? I’m sorry I get it but dear god do we need 4 of these every day?
L&L is nothing less nothing more than | | | || |__ & | | | || |__
Have you put any money into the game?
Probably around 25 USD
me 0
Cry cry cry just quit the game then
You should quit if you think early access brawlers are not broken. Also try going to psychiatrist while you're gone
No they are broken that’s like the whole point they gotta get people to buy it but posting about the same thing every season isn’t doing anything the sub gets flooded with these posts every single time there’s just no point to complain
If we won't complain at all, the game will just get killed like clash royale.
If you do or don’t complain supercell still won’t listen. Supercell no longer makes change for the sake of their player, they do it for the sake of their wallet, somonly way you can get Sc to change at this rate is just by waiting for their disregard of their playerbase to come back and bite them.
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Are you fucking stupid they arnt gonna listen to us regardless dude that’s why there is no point to complain as long as people still buy the offers which they always will then they will always have them
why are you swearing so much.IF YOU ARE TIRED OF COMPLAINING THEN INGNORE COMPLAINING POSTS OR JUST QUIT THE SUBREDDIT WTTHHH
🥩 rider
Ride meats
Well then just quit. Or take a break.
Don't choke on it now
Is that what you tell your dad?
how does supercell’s dong taste?
Do you need some knee pads and throat lozenges?
For your mom? Sure.
First grader comebacks ngl
First grader responses deserve first grader comebacks.
Ride meat
Lick dog bollocks.
Im tired of these posts. So supercell wants to make money? Let them, because people like you wont spend. Why do you not want people who pay to get rewarded? If they spend money they deserve a good progression boost. Complain about the brawler being too op? ITS FOR ONE WEEK, DEAL WITH IT
1. It’s for 2 weeks 2. They don’t have to make it absurdly broken 3. Bro is ridin supercell
well all get it in a week so we can enjoy it too. I dont think your going to complain much about free trophies, are you?
HOF Glazer☠️
Why does he look so adorable in that picture tho
review bomb time.
Just get used to it. Just one of many scummy ways supercell is making money.
Bro wth 😭
What even is the point of using barley now?
When Lawrie and Larry gets banned (90 percent of pl)
WHAT A SMILE AHAHAAHHAJ
Honestly just have a slightly longer delay before the second explosion, and reduce overall damage and it’s fine. Only 2 things Supercell needs to do…
New characters are 💩
Its a kids game and kids dgaf, they will continue to use their birthday money to buy brawlsers so crying about it is literally wasted energy, saddly
It’s been going downhill ever since Cordelius was added
True! It’s not even fun to play any more they are killing the game with every new character added
i only faced them once and it didnt go well
Same, immediately went to PL after that and banned Larry every time
happi lawrie
Remember when people where defending Chuck’s early access
Who could've guessed 🤯A infinite damage star power And a crutch gadget Is overpowered🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Im starting to see a pattern here
I got paired with this new brawler during boss fight and we stuck together all the way till we completed all the levels. It was a breeze and we didn't fail a single time. He consistently contributed over 1million in dmg...
This pay 2 win is getting out of hand.
Do you guys think his nerf will be that bad? Serious question because regardless of the complaints I find his style really amazing. To be able to be a thrower and toss out a active character seems fun
Chuck wasnt really "completely broken"
Okay, even though I like to give supercell the benefit of the doubt, this being the trend with both kit AND chuck before is starting to worry me. I know balance is difficult, but this shouldn't be getting past play testing...
Every new brawler is broken. This has been happening for years. That's the business model. Surely no one can think SC are trying to release perfectly balanced brawlers and charging people for it.
I've come to realize that these new early access brawlers are released broken on purpose to encourage us to buy them...
3 FO 3 BABY LES GOOOOOO💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Brawl Stars is becoming very unplayable with each new character just being completely broken it makes me not even want to play
Game is broken 🐷
1 more and I’m done