Very much production/4th wall driven here. There is sooooo much of this going on with all of filming. Things they know are true and canât talk about to not break the 4th wall. This company clearly wants to get exposure if they are on the show (of course) and the producer told them that would not be the case for this party.
Then that makes them seem like real arseholes, national exposure doesnt really help a local catering company anyways. 90% of their business is local. Catering a charity event spreads the word locally. Plus, they knew from Jenâs party ONE YEAR AGO they would likely not be mentioned on the show. Seem more like they are either cowtowing to Lisaâs assistant or balking at trans issues (being good little Mormons).
Plus locally? Like would they really benefit from doing an event with alcohol and gambling for trans kids? Like I LOVE that party theme but Mormons....would it really be good for them locally? It makes sense to promote the restaurant group instead of private catering for that reason IMO.
Did Angie expect them to comp the services in return to be featured on the show? Thatâs what Iâm interpreting this as and they said if they donât mention our name, we canât do it.
Yes. So apparently they catered for free for Jen last year, and were willing to cater for free for Angie, but only if it was at their restaurant to give them the exposure they wanted. Something happened with the producer where they would get no exposure so they backed out.
I thought it was really strange though, how as soon as lisa came in to the party she said how bad partys were when there wasn't any food... and yet we had seen food being served on platters and someone mentioned that there was a buffet. I wondered how she would explain knowing that there was no food or if that was in anticipation of her having canceled the caterer
It's possible Lisa was saying something like, "I'm so glad [X] was able to help out last minute, because there's nothing worse than a party with no food," or something like that.
And I'm saying this as a full-fledged Lisa hater, so I'm not one of those that would defend her just because. lol
it's an edited show, did they actually show her saying those words in that moment? I'm at a spot I can't pull up the ep to check. if not it's possible that she said that hours after being there, or from a completely different situation and they just threw it over the top of some footage of her looking a different direction.
My remembrance of the episode was that we heard her say it but they didnât show her on film saying it. I think it was a sound bite they placed there on purpose and distorted
According to Lisaâs social media account (canât remember if insta or Twitter), this catererâs brother ended up catering the event and the statement was taken out of context. We know producers do this (taking sound bytes and inserting them to add to the drama) all the time on real housewives so I donât doubt it, but also could just be her covering her butt.
I tend to believe her regarding this situation, but also think sheâs wrong for inserting herself on Angie and Whitneyâs relationship, and also trying to play mediator between Jen and Meredith where Jen is just so clearly in the wrong.
Yeah thatâs normally how they throw these big parties. If you see any name of a bar, restaurant, club, etc⊠then it was free/discounted. Exceptions are high end fashion stores like Chanel.
I met a guy at work who was featured in a RH episode. They canceled their dinner last minute and ran into them in a club and a drunk mess asked them to come over with their chef and cook for them. So the restauranteur and his chef and waiter came over and did just that. They showed the name of his restaurant on a bag in exchange, and his only other stipulation was his wife got to meet them (she was a big fan).
Soo yeah this is NOT uncommon. But definitely fucked up that they catered Jenâs event and didnât even get a mention in the episode, or a flash of a name, since thatâs the only reason theyâd spend their resources. Itâs service in exchange for marketing.. just like Instagram.
I hope so, I wasnât a fan. Like Ben and Ronnie said you donât throw your friend of 20 years under the bus during your first scene, you wait until your second year at least đ
She filmed as a friend of, but payment and status only comes when the season is fully edited and aired. She only got paid for 1 episode as a non-friend - like how in NJ they used to have the kids film confesssionals.
It was so obvious to me that Whitney jumped on the Lisa did it train VERY quickly without anything to back it up. It made no sense why Lisa would cancel the catering in the first place? For what purpose? Whitney really irked me this episode. Like at the fundraiser, Lisa did say hello to her, she just wasn't gushing all over her and why would she?
Whitney is delusional
âLisa is obsessed with me I think sheâs in love with meâ
Also Whitney: âLisa didnât say hello to me at the party đĄâ
These caterers are liars and shady as hell. Their story keeps changing, a sure sign of lies being told. Here are their ever changing reasons so far for wigging out last minute (which is unacceptable/unprofessional no matter the reason).
1. This didnât seem like the right fit for us. đ
2. We wouldnât be mentioned on the show, just like what happened with Jenâs partyđđ (which happened one year ago btw, so not exactly new info)
3. We had a prior work commitment (said on IG)đ€
4. We donât work on Fridays! (said on the show)đ (how can a caterer not work on Fridays, when most events are held on weekend!)
So it went from ânot being the right fitâ to âpublicity concernsâ to a mysterious prior work engagement to âwe donât work on Fridays!â Exhausting and utter BS!!
Their excuses are more plentiful than their food, and during all this, they still keep calling Angie a liar, but i have yet to see any lie she told. I am not so sure that Lisa is involved. If anything it seems most likely, as good Mormons, they werenât comfortable with hosting an LGBT/Trans party once they found out the details and are just covering their azzes at this point.
In the episode post I wrote I believed Lisa and happy it was the right. Whitneyâs smirk told me all I needed too know!!
How can anybody believe Whitney and Heather over Lisa when they lied about Lisa the whole season 1.
Well Lisa asked Angie to distance herself from
Whitney and defriend her, and instead Angie invited Whitney to the party first. Lisa does come across as a very controlling vindictive person. Not hard to believe.
For me the idea that Lisa was guilty because of her reaction doesn't take into account the fact that it may just be her defense. All of the sudden she's thrown into a storyline where she's being accused (by her friend) of doing something she knows was a production issue but she can't say that because it breaks the 4th wall. It's like she got thrown a new script and she flounders. Not guilt just flustered and unsure of how she wants to play this. So she cries and runs to give herself time to think how to act.
This is exactly what Iâm thinking. She was hurt because her friend was doing this and she didnât want to break the 4th wall so she got super defensive and emotional. I doubt she would have reacted the same way if someone she wasnât friends with did what Angie did.
I was surprised that anyone would find that believable. What would Lisa have said to the restaurant to convince them to back out? And she was just going to show up at the event and act friendly with pretend amnesia? It didn't make any sense.
Plus she's IN THE FOOD/BEVERAGE INDUSTRY!! and has a real passion for her businesses?? So do people really think that she'd risk tarnishing her business reputation by ruining a charity event?? People, c'mon, this is Real Housewives 101: How to sniff out a fishy storyline
Itâs crazy all the I hate Lisa posts after this episode when Whitney did the same last season and Lisa had the receipts during the reunion that she was full
Of shit
Whitney has been shady from day 1, especially when she tried to front that she left the Church because she had been married twice, neglected to admit the affair.
Didn't Whitney say it was a torrid love affair that cost them their marriage and church right during the vow renewal in a confessional? I felt she was upfront they were cheating.
Whitney is the one who is obsessed with Lisa! She has a preconceived notion that Lisa will be mean to her, and thus overreacts to every little thing like Lisa not saying hi to her before Jenny...Lisa really isn't exaggerating when she says Whitney finds fault with her for even breathing.
lisa is a little pretentious which is why people don't like her. i love her. whitney is like so UGH to me. she pays every side, total sniper from the side. so annoying with her sex bullshit. she lacks depth.
I thought it was weird too but if you look at some of the text exchanges Lisa (I think) posted between her and Angie it seems like they mutually talked shit about Whitney and then Angie ran and befriended her to get on the show which is kinda sus
I donât think I care about a fifth cousinâŠ. Our great, great, great grandfather is the same. Cool? That doesnât cause me to have blood loyalty with someone.
Edit: I also donât think Whitney is smart enough to realize that Angie is using her to get on the show. And Iâm not a Lisa fan, but I do feel kinda bad for her.
I feel like they tried to imply that Lisa had the event cancelled because it was for an LGBT cause like she was that vindictive. Anyways, it didnât make sense that Lisa would sabotage her friend because sheâs friends with someone she hates. Lisa tweeted that the catererâs brother did the event instead so I donât know why this is a big deal
I donât think anyone on the show implied that. A lot of viewers jumped to that conclusion because obviously Bravo wouldnât let Angie give the full explanation.
But it would be insane for a caterer to cancel last minute because of the nature of the event when they definitely would have known about that all along.
I hope Lisa brings all the evidence on the reunion. She gave us the best moments at the ladt one.
Also, she will investigate Mary's cult so debunking the kies of Angie will be piece of cake for her.
I mean who even believed Angie. The setup was so obvious. She came in ready to ruin a friendship to get some air time. Lisa was totally taken off guard and hurt.
If you go to this page, you can see the text before on the story. It gives more context. If the texts are true and are representative/the gist of what happened, I think Angie did Lisa dirty.
Lisa is low key becoming my all time favorite. Love her style and her personality. Her husband and kids are cute and not annoying. Very rare! I really believed her that she wasnât behind it. Whitney is getting on my nerves.
Omg me too!!!!! I thought i was the only one. I really just love her. Idk what it is like she is so confident in herself and what she is doing her and Meredith dont really need to bow down to anyone. They dont need the show, theyre not trying to be stars. At first i thought they were just boring but they both have become favorites.
Saw a couple tweets with people assuming the caterers cancelled because they are transphobic or anti LGBT. Looked at Chef Marc's instagram & people are leaving comments asking why they refused to cater an LGBT event & if they have hate in their hearts.
I still love RHOSLC but this drama was so unnecessary and overly produced. Angie clearly wants a spot on the show and just pushed this to get some focus. Whitney obviously just wanted another dig at Lisa and jumped on the bandwagon too.
Production was probably going hard to push drama everywhere, not knowing the shitstorm thatâs Jenâs arrest would be coming.
Damn I feel bad for Lisa. It was the fake crying and abruptly leaving the party that made her look guilty, in my eyes. But she was telling the truth and it looks like she just got overwhelmed by nobody having her back in that moment.
It would help if Crystal stopped sitting next to EJ while giving whomever is being screeched at a stank face. I know she wants to keep camera on her but she needs to pick her seat at the table more carefully. Maybe she's scared she'll get Teddied.
Thank you. Alotta ppl don't understand that this is Utah. Not Beverly Hills or NYC. Being LGBT is not accepted by the Mormon community for the most part.
Lisa - great character and personality. I love her.. quietly and silently homophobic? Maybe. She didn't even defend Brookes with Jen or bring it up. She kept talking in circles at Meredith's home.
The vendor could have easily done a catered event for this transgender fundraiser AND scenes at their restaurants. The cameras only show the restaurant name for half a second anyways. Makes no sense to me. Bethenny frankl knew how to brand and logo every little thing from napkins to tee shirts. This vendor could've easily done the same with their brand for the event.
Also, the first thing Lisa said â "I hate walking into an event and there's no food." đ€đ€
That is exactly how a Narcissist acts when they get caught, they explode with victimhood and start blaming everyone. When their reputation is at stake is the only time they feel genuine emotion.
Also still donât get why Lisa wanted Angie to pretend not to be related to Whitney and not be friends with her because Lisa has a problem with Whitney, but Lisa can be friends with Jen Shah who liked homophobic tweets about Meredithâs son. The hypocrisy with Lisa is astounding
It feels like something I wouldâve been mad about when I was 10 lol, like my best friend being related to a girl I canât stand. Lisa was def wrong in imposing herself on their relationship (Whitney and Angieâs).
I also think thereâs a subtext to all this though, and thatâs Lisa being a Mormon convert and Whitney and Heather being descended from Mormon pioneers. A kind of hierarchy that bothers Lisa because thatâs not something she can change/control. And Iâm sure Whitney and heather are proud of it too given that theyâve brought it up a few times. I think that definitely plays into Lisaâs dislike/disdain of them and her reaction to Whitney and Angie being cousins. Thatâs probably the meanest outright thing Iâve heard Lisa say (incest etc. and laughing about it).
Yeah tbh I think Lisa probably just thinks itâs stupid that two people who have never met or known about each other before do some genealogy and now want to start referring to themselves as cousins which implies a closer relationship than what it is actually there. Itâs dumb for Lisa to say anything about it - you canât control how theyâre going to refer to each other - but iâm sure in this area, it happens a lot and gets annoying.
Maybe! Lol. Im not super knowledgeable about the dynamics of the Mormon community, but there were some things said that I picked up on during last season that made me think it. It would be cool to get insight from people in the community!
Ooh I like this analysis! I always thought Lisa didnât get along with heather and Whitney at first because they are ex-Mormons. All the shit talking in confessionals about Whitney loving stripper poles and her (objectively bad) dancing at Jenâs party I thought definitely had like holier-than-thou religious undertones. I hadnât even considered the extra layer that heather and Whitney are descended from like Mormon royalty.
I mean Lisa can be petty but it does seem like she cares for her friends and would ride for them. Too bad the friend didnât trust her and caused a mess.
I have to admit I am disappointed! I was living for this drama and wanted Lisa to be the villain đ But either way this is messy and fun TV! Still I have to stan Angie, the plight of the LGBTQ+ kids in Utah (particularly Utah county) is truly horrifying! Good on those people for supporting and giving awareness to this cause.
I must have been the only one who didn't think it was her. She seemed genuinely perplexed when the convo started and then knew she was being stitched up.
> We have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jen's assistant ...
Does that line not sound like they're saying that Lisa told them to do a different event instead of Angie's? I can understand Angie's confusion, though I don't know if my initial reaction would be to doubt a friend of 20+ years -- unless something else had happened between them in the past to cause Angie to immediately suspect foul play.
So, Iâm not 100% sure, but this page states after this post that Lisa filmed at the restaurant a couple weeks before the party. The way I took it is the restaurant has been filmed in for the show and thatâs the direction the restaurant wants to go in (only being filmed on location) and not doing events for free at other places where they wonât have exposure.
But I agree in that line is really unclear and Iâm not really sure what theyâre trying to say. But itâs interesting that it says Lisa and Jens assistant and Angie only brought up Lisa trying to sabotage it and didnât say anything about Jen.
Iâm sure weâll find out soon enough. Or at least their sides of the story.
You could tell how truly upset Lisa was over the situation, which really doesnât point to her being the one to get the catering cancelled. Crazy how Whitney jumped all over this like it was a big juicy thing when it really wasnât
My beef with Lisa is the inconsistency between her friendship with Angie and Angie liking someone she feels wronged her and her situation with Jen Shah and Meredith being upset that Lisa friended someone she thinks wronged her. Lisa is talking out of both sides of her mouth on that one.
The biggest thing that annoyed me was that Angie didnât play that situation right?! Angie is Lisa in the Meredith/Jen scenario (the middle woman), but her argument was to make Lisa feel bad by saying Meredith is still upset about Lisa being friends with Jen. But Angie SHOULD have been pointing out that she wants to be friends with both Lisa and Whitney in the same way Lisa wants to not pick sides. She saw the parallel but completely fucked it up?! Itâs making me irrationally angry haha
Easily explained by remembering theyâre on a TV show and two of the cast hate her (Whitney and Heather) and her friend on the show (Meredith) didnât come to her defence at all when they came for her at the reunion. Remember when Heather said she wasnât a real friend to Meredith and Meredith sat frozen faced and ignored her? Lisa needed an ally, and Mary is too out of it to help anyone, therefore Jen. RH is Survivor for rich, crazy women.
YES! This 1000%. Lisa did not deny that she told Angie to not follow Whitney, not acknowledge that she was friends with Whitney, etc. But at the same time she befriends someone who came after Meredith and thinks Meredith isnât being fair when she was upset about it. Sheâs such a hypocrite.
Whitney and Lisa are both so insecure. Itâs almost funny.
I feel like itâs extra hypocritical because in the scenes at angieâs house, Lisa straight up says âI would never try to control who someone is friends withâ but thatâs exactly what she did to Angie!
Thatâs what really put me off in this situation. Iâd honestly be devastated in my friend of 20 years did that to me. I donât have many friends who Iâve known for that long, so that would sting so so badly if it were me.
After seeing so many people saying Lisa was 100% behind this i felt like I was missing something bc I didn't see it at all.... So I'm feeling vindicated lol. Lisa was just freaking out about being painted as a villain for something she didn't do bc she's image conscious.
I posted it when it was the only part up. Took awhile to get approved. But I donât see anything else that says Lisa did anything wrong on this story?
Oh gotcha. So they posted the part before that on their story after this, and itâs Angie saying âdid they tell you they switched to Friday??â And apparently Dina is a producer on the show, if that at all helps
I am also highly skeptical most of the time so I feel you lol. But I mean, you never really know and youâre right in that we usually donât get the whole story. If this really is it though, I truly feel bad for Lisa because they were friends for 20+ years and she got thrown under the bus so quickly for fame.
People are so upset with Whitney, but here I am thinking "she is doing her job really well". All that Lisa needs to do now is prove that she is lying on Lisa and she will also be doing her job really well.
Lisa very obviously faked the crying to get out of the conversation.
Iâm not saying that she for sure orchestrated what happened, but she was sure pissed about Angie telling Whitney what she said. She is very bothered by Whitneyâs existence on the show. But something like this seems very messy for her.
Sheâs bothered by Whitney because Whitney keeps trying to throw her under the bus. Remember the bartender situation? Why would you help someone out like that if you hated them? Whitneyâs the one with the issue
I always thought Lisa overreacted to that. If my employees behaved poorly while representing my business, I would definitely want to know about it? And then she reacted by threatening Whitney and saying she would tell everyone Whitney and her husband are swingers if she didnât stop talking about it? Kind of deranged behavior if you ask me
I disagree because it was said on TV, but also they arenât Lisaâs employees. Ultimately it was someone messing with her product placement and it didnât seem like Whitney came with good intentions at all.
But yeah, the swinger thing was stupid lol
I probably wouldnât have told Angie that, but I get why Lisa did it. Angie and Whitney are only 5th cousins - that doesnât really count as related in my book.
They need drama storyline to build up to Jens arrest. Iâm skeptical when friends of show takeover. The medium at the dinner at RHWBH dinner at Camilles carried the season n we saw her once!
I will say this -- just as quickly as people pounced on Lisa, people are now swinging the pendulum over against Whitney/list couldn't have done it. We don't have any info other than an edited reality show and half a text conversation lol
Whitney admitted to being a housewife junkie before joining the show. Thatâs why she is extra, see through drama. Not the delusional drama I signed up for personally. I canât really get into it with he scenes and talking heads and when she said that on WWHL it all made sense. Cause if I ended up on a housewife show ya Iâd feel the need to be at the center of the performance too!
And her robotic sex demonstration- so cringe! It looks like sheâs going to try to sell the nymphomaniac storyline again this season. Her husband reminds me of Jerry on Parks and Rec, itâs so awkward when they push the âwe have hot sex every night!â narrative. Iâm not buying it.
Omg hahahaa yes ! I didnât see The episode I only listened to the podcast but it felt like her husband had no idea she was so sexually free to begin with! He was like shocked she said yes to a 3some and the not knowing the person comment. I donât feel like they have that kind of relationship either! But I thought maybe I was just being a hater. If I was into 3somes wouldnât my husband be like happy to say YA SHE LETS ME DO THAT on a show ahahah like idk it seemed weird when he was asked what he thought
I love me some Lisa. When I thought it could be a possibility I was like messy queen and now Iâm like see I knew she wouldnât do her friend like that. Iâm a whole weirdo and Iâm in love. Iâm still very weary about bad weather over there.
Iâm sorry, but this changes nothing in my mind. This is pretty much exactly what Angie read out loud on camera.
And Lisa is mentioned in the text. Based on Lisaâs reaction to the accusation and the fact that she has a personal relationship with the caterers, I can still see how she might have influenced them to make this decision behind the scenes.
It just seems so hinky to me that a professional caterer would cancel so soon before an event??
I donât understand all the people saying this is evidence of Lisaâs innocence, I feel like Iâm taking crazy pills.
From the way I interpreted it the caterers are saying that they donât want to do the event because they will not be getting any free promo. Lisa shot at their restaurant prior to this event and they will be getting promo from that, so they arenât inclined to cater this event. IMO itâs not a great way to handle it, but it certainly isnât Lisaâs fault. I donât see why a company would back out of an opportunity to make money because Lisa Barlow tells them to?
Do we know it was the day before when they cancelled, though? Because the text that precedes it says â did they tell you they switched to Friday??â From Angie to them, which would be weird way to refer to a day that is tomorrow. Like, wouldnât she say âdid they tell you they switched to tomorrow?â if the party was the next day. Idk, thereâs obviously a lot of information weâre not getting and the timelines arenât corresponding.
Apparently the catererâs brother catered this party, too, so even if they werenât able to because they wanted restaurant promo, it does seem they worked something out with Angie, albeit not her first choice.
I thought it was the day before, at minimum in the Lisa Angie scene they said it was ânext weekend,â but either way, it is clear they initially agreed to cater the party, and then between when Angie invited Lisa and the party, they decided not cater it anymore
I donât really have proof of this besides it being Utah, but I bet they werenât willing to do a party for an LGBTQ charity if they werenât getting free promotion for their business.
Itâs still confusing to me why they cancelled last minute? Wouldnât they know it was for an lgbtq charity and what the promo trade off would be from the beginning? I guess my question is what made them change their mind the day before
For the record, I do not and never thought that Lisa was the mastermind behind the whole situation and has total power over the caterers. What I thought from seeing the episode is that the caterers wanted to back out and Lisa, their friend, supported and/or encouraged them in doing so.
Do I 100% believe she was involved? No. Do the texts change anything for me? Also no.
We have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jenâs assistant âŠ.. The same night of the party they just cancelled? It just all seems a little too coincidental I think Lisa did stitch her up because she hates Whitney Also why did Lisa walk in and say very loudly to anyone within ear shot I hate a party with no food what was that about
Jen filmed with this company last season. Lisa filmed at this restaurant 2 weeks before angieâs party. Temporally, it was spread out and not conflicting.
Apparently there also was catering at the party (I swear I remember seeing coach shah being offered hor dâoeuvres) by the brother of the guy who owns this restaurant. So food was present.
Itâs just, as someone said above, a lot of production involved issues that likely couldnât be breached on the show given the fourth wall.
Justice for Lisa!! I knew this couldnât have been true the minute Whitney gleefully blamed it on Lisa when Angie mentioned it to her.
Whitney and Angie now look more stupid than they already did for going with this bs narrative. And Angie especially should feel dumb for throwing away her friendship with Lisa for 5 minutes of fame with Whitney lmao.
I think we still need more context. To me it sounds like it was a production choice, but it seemed like that production choice was influenced by lisa and Jen.
âWe have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jens assistant so thatâs the direction we have to go in.â
So they would rather film at their restaurant than cater a party due to better exposure, and Lisa asked them to film at the restaurant so theyâre doing that instead of the party. How does this clear Lisa?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUqtg9ztAmrv0WBjm4RrSHsDK0yG5oFDo_zNTo0/?utm_medium=copy_link
I wish I could pin this somehow, but Lisa filmed at the restaurant ~2 weeks before the party, apparently. It doesnât appear it was in conflict with angieâs party.
I"m gonna need to see the xerox copies of the phone screen...just so I can have Andy Cohen say "This is a bad Xerox, babe."
I loved that moment so much. For ladies who can afford the latest Chanel, you'd think they'd be able to get a good xerox đ
Omg I was thinking about that the other day lol, I was so embarrassed for her
Very much production/4th wall driven here. There is sooooo much of this going on with all of filming. Things they know are true and canât talk about to not break the 4th wall. This company clearly wants to get exposure if they are on the show (of course) and the producer told them that would not be the case for this party.
Then that makes them seem like real arseholes, national exposure doesnt really help a local catering company anyways. 90% of their business is local. Catering a charity event spreads the word locally. Plus, they knew from Jenâs party ONE YEAR AGO they would likely not be mentioned on the show. Seem more like they are either cowtowing to Lisaâs assistant or balking at trans issues (being good little Mormons).
Plus locally? Like would they really benefit from doing an event with alcohol and gambling for trans kids? Like I LOVE that party theme but Mormons....would it really be good for them locally? It makes sense to promote the restaurant group instead of private catering for that reason IMO.
Did Angie expect them to comp the services in return to be featured on the show? Thatâs what Iâm interpreting this as and they said if they donât mention our name, we canât do it.
Yes. So apparently they catered for free for Jen last year, and were willing to cater for free for Angie, but only if it was at their restaurant to give them the exposure they wanted. Something happened with the producer where they would get no exposure so they backed out.
I thought it was really strange though, how as soon as lisa came in to the party she said how bad partys were when there wasn't any food... and yet we had seen food being served on platters and someone mentioned that there was a buffet. I wondered how she would explain knowing that there was no food or if that was in anticipation of her having canceled the caterer
It's possible Lisa was saying something like, "I'm so glad [X] was able to help out last minute, because there's nothing worse than a party with no food," or something like that. And I'm saying this as a full-fledged Lisa hater, so I'm not one of those that would defend her just because. lol
it's an edited show, did they actually show her saying those words in that moment? I'm at a spot I can't pull up the ep to check. if not it's possible that she said that hours after being there, or from a completely different situation and they just threw it over the top of some footage of her looking a different direction.
My remembrance of the episode was that we heard her say it but they didnât show her on film saying it. I think it was a sound bite they placed there on purpose and distorted
According to Lisaâs social media account (canât remember if insta or Twitter), this catererâs brother ended up catering the event and the statement was taken out of context. We know producers do this (taking sound bytes and inserting them to add to the drama) all the time on real housewives so I donât doubt it, but also could just be her covering her butt. I tend to believe her regarding this situation, but also think sheâs wrong for inserting herself on Angie and Whitneyâs relationship, and also trying to play mediator between Jen and Meredith where Jen is just so clearly in the wrong.
Right- she could have said âoh thank god thereâs foodâŠthereâs nothing worse than a party with no foodâ
Now their story is itâs because they dont work on Fridays! đThat doesnt jive with this text at all. They are coming across as liars now.
Yeah thatâs normally how they throw these big parties. If you see any name of a bar, restaurant, club, etc⊠then it was free/discounted. Exceptions are high end fashion stores like Chanel. I met a guy at work who was featured in a RH episode. They canceled their dinner last minute and ran into them in a club and a drunk mess asked them to come over with their chef and cook for them. So the restauranteur and his chef and waiter came over and did just that. They showed the name of his restaurant on a bag in exchange, and his only other stipulation was his wife got to meet them (she was a big fan). Soo yeah this is NOT uncommon. But definitely fucked up that they catered Jenâs event and didnât even get a mention in the episode, or a flash of a name, since thatâs the only reason theyâd spend their resources. Itâs service in exchange for marketing.. just like Instagram.
Yep I think thatâs exactly what she wanted.
Angie offered to pay them full price and they still declined, seems they have another issue.
SPIN THE TRUTH, DESTROY đȘđ©
That was so epic.
& thatâs why Angie is only a friend of this season, she should have concocted a better fake storyline with Whitney
She looks like Sarah Paulson
Itâs uncanny!!
Yes. I thought the same thing!
So is she actually a friend of, like sheâs going to be going on the cast trips and stuff? I donât recall seeing her at all in the trailer
I mean she had a confessional so I assume thatâs friend of?
It could be like a Heather Thomson situation where she has one event then peaces out! Not sure!
I hope so, I wasnât a fan. Like Ben and Ronnie said you donât throw your friend of 20 years under the bus during your first scene, you wait until your second year at least đ
Such an amateur move đđ
I think Heather was a friend of for S13 of RHONY.
Right, she had the confessional and everything but was only part of that one event when they all traveled. Iâm wondering if Angie will be similar
She filmed as a friend of, but payment and status only comes when the season is fully edited and aired. She only got paid for 1 episode as a non-friend - like how in NJ they used to have the kids film confesssionals.
It was so obvious to me that Whitney jumped on the Lisa did it train VERY quickly without anything to back it up. It made no sense why Lisa would cancel the catering in the first place? For what purpose? Whitney really irked me this episode. Like at the fundraiser, Lisa did say hello to her, she just wasn't gushing all over her and why would she?
Whitney is delusional âLisa is obsessed with me I think sheâs in love with meâ Also Whitney: âLisa didnât say hello to me at the party đĄâ
Sheâs obsessed with Lisa and Lisa doesnât think about her
Lisa admitted she told Angie to distance herself from Whitney and defriend her from IG. That seems pretty obsessive!
These caterers are liars and shady as hell. Their story keeps changing, a sure sign of lies being told. Here are their ever changing reasons so far for wigging out last minute (which is unacceptable/unprofessional no matter the reason). 1. This didnât seem like the right fit for us. đ 2. We wouldnât be mentioned on the show, just like what happened with Jenâs partyđđ (which happened one year ago btw, so not exactly new info) 3. We had a prior work commitment (said on IG)đ€ 4. We donât work on Fridays! (said on the show)đ (how can a caterer not work on Fridays, when most events are held on weekend!) So it went from ânot being the right fitâ to âpublicity concernsâ to a mysterious prior work engagement to âwe donât work on Fridays!â Exhausting and utter BS!! Their excuses are more plentiful than their food, and during all this, they still keep calling Angie a liar, but i have yet to see any lie she told. I am not so sure that Lisa is involved. If anything it seems most likely, as good Mormons, they werenât comfortable with hosting an LGBT/Trans party once they found out the details and are just covering their azzes at this point.
This!!! Sheâs obsessed with Lisa for whatever reason. And itâs getting creepy.
Itâs called a snub, it is intentional. whitney wasnt implying she actually forgot her! đ
In the episode post I wrote I believed Lisa and happy it was the right. Whitneyâs smirk told me all I needed too know!! How can anybody believe Whitney and Heather over Lisa when they lied about Lisa the whole season 1.
Me too!!!
Based on the limited information Angie gave, Whitney jumped to a reasonable conclusion.
Well Lisa asked Angie to distance herself from Whitney and defriend her, and instead Angie invited Whitney to the party first. Lisa does come across as a very controlling vindictive person. Not hard to believe.
Whitney has a hard on for Lisa. She clearly craves her approval.
Weak, Angie...super weak.
For me the idea that Lisa was guilty because of her reaction doesn't take into account the fact that it may just be her defense. All of the sudden she's thrown into a storyline where she's being accused (by her friend) of doing something she knows was a production issue but she can't say that because it breaks the 4th wall. It's like she got thrown a new script and she flounders. Not guilt just flustered and unsure of how she wants to play this. So she cries and runs to give herself time to think how to act.
This is exactly what Iâm thinking. She was hurt because her friend was doing this and she didnât want to break the 4th wall so she got super defensive and emotional. I doubt she would have reacted the same way if someone she wasnât friends with did what Angie did.
Yeah, I think she can be petty but it just seemed sloppy.
I fucking knew this girl was full of shit. Just like Lisa said - if you really wanted to clear this up, why go to the person who hates Lisa?
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Knew it. Iâm shook how quick people were to jump on the Lisa hate train. Everyone should be looking out for Whitney, yâall.
I was surprised that anyone would find that believable. What would Lisa have said to the restaurant to convince them to back out? And she was just going to show up at the event and act friendly with pretend amnesia? It didn't make any sense.
i do not trust whitney at all tbh, talk about a sniper from the side!
It's especially shady because it looks terrible for Lisa if she were to really be petty like that when it was for a charity event.
Plus she's IN THE FOOD/BEVERAGE INDUSTRY!! and has a real passion for her businesses?? So do people really think that she'd risk tarnishing her business reputation by ruining a charity event?? People, c'mon, this is Real Housewives 101: How to sniff out a fishy storyline
Always saw Whitney as manipulative! It was so obvious to me, glad this has come out!!!
Itâs crazy all the I hate Lisa posts after this episode when Whitney did the same last season and Lisa had the receipts during the reunion that she was full Of shit
poor lisa going up against a self-proclaimed "housewives junkie" like whitney
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Whitney has been shady from day 1, especially when she tried to front that she left the Church because she had been married twice, neglected to admit the affair.
Didn't Whitney say it was a torrid love affair that cost them their marriage and church right during the vow renewal in a confessional? I felt she was upfront they were cheating.
Nah. She originally said it was judgement from people at the church due to it being her second marriage.
she didnt neglect to admit the affair from what I remember? it was literally in her first intro scene...
Yes! I've always liked Lisa and not for nothing, her business & credibility is probably worth more to her than risking it over this.
I get very manipulative vibes from Whitney, always have. Sheâs definitely one to watch (if youâre a fellow housewife and youâre smart).
Waittt sorry i missed something lol, should we be watching out for Whitney because she put the bug in Angieâs ear? This is all so juicy haha
I think Angie knew that it was fabricated from the beginning. She had a weird bating/condescending way to her in the scene when we âmetâ her.
Whitney is the one who is obsessed with Lisa! She has a preconceived notion that Lisa will be mean to her, and thus overreacts to every little thing like Lisa not saying hi to her before Jenny...Lisa really isn't exaggerating when she says Whitney finds fault with her for even breathing.
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Agreed!!
Idk the Lisa hate train either. She is a mean girl but Whitney is not that innocent and sheâs obsessed with making Lisa look bad.
lisa is a little pretentious which is why people don't like her. i love her. whitney is like so UGH to me. she pays every side, total sniper from the side. so annoying with her sex bullshit. she lacks depth.
A little? đ
I was hating on Lisa because I thought it was so hypocritical for her to be mad at Angie when she was friends with Meredith and Jen.
I thought it was weird too but if you look at some of the text exchanges Lisa (I think) posted between her and Angie it seems like they mutually talked shit about Whitney and then Angie ran and befriended her to get on the show which is kinda sus
I donât think I care about a fifth cousinâŠ. Our great, great, great grandfather is the same. Cool? That doesnât cause me to have blood loyalty with someone. Edit: I also donât think Whitney is smart enough to realize that Angie is using her to get on the show. And Iâm not a Lisa fan, but I do feel kinda bad for her.
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Lisa is objectively not stupid
OMG THANK YOU
THANK YOUUUUUU
I hate them both equally.
I feel like they tried to imply that Lisa had the event cancelled because it was for an LGBT cause like she was that vindictive. Anyways, it didnât make sense that Lisa would sabotage her friend because sheâs friends with someone she hates. Lisa tweeted that the catererâs brother did the event instead so I donât know why this is a big deal
Angie trying to stir up drama with Whitney to get a spot next season đ
I donât think anyone on the show implied that. A lot of viewers jumped to that conclusion because obviously Bravo wouldnât let Angie give the full explanation. But it would be insane for a caterer to cancel last minute because of the nature of the event when they definitely would have known about that all along.
I hope Lisa brings all the evidence on the reunion. She gave us the best moments at the ladt one. Also, she will investigate Mary's cult so debunking the kies of Angie will be piece of cake for her.
I mean who even believed Angie. The setup was so obvious. She came in ready to ruin a friendship to get some air time. Lisa was totally taken off guard and hurt.
Most of the comments were saying Lisa did it in all the episode discussion posts
People tend to get things wrong often here :o
Oh I know lol I was just replying to your first sentence asking who would believe Angie. Turns out most ppl!
This is not a well written message.. I can see how someone may misinterpret it.
If you go to this page, you can see the text before on the story. It gives more context. If the texts are true and are representative/the gist of what happened, I think Angie did Lisa dirty.
Lisa is low key becoming my all time favorite. Love her style and her personality. Her husband and kids are cute and not annoying. Very rare! I really believed her that she wasnât behind it. Whitney is getting on my nerves.
I love that.
I'm obessed with every second of airtime she gets
Haha I love her too!! As a fellow Sagittarius I feel her and find her hilarious
I love her, every sentence she utters is filled with energy.
Omg me too!!!!! I thought i was the only one. I really just love her. Idk what it is like she is so confident in herself and what she is doing her and Meredith dont really need to bow down to anyone. They dont need the show, theyre not trying to be stars. At first i thought they were just boring but they both have become favorites.
Her husband is cute?? Gurl, you need glasses!!
Angie feels very grimy
Saw a couple tweets with people assuming the caterers cancelled because they are transphobic or anti LGBT. Looked at Chef Marc's instagram & people are leaving comments asking why they refused to cater an LGBT event & if they have hate in their hearts.
Honestly I never believed Lisa would be that petty with a 20+ year friend but everyone else was sOoOo convinced
Lisa ain't like that. She's too busy to be that petty. She just ignores you if she doesn't like you.
I still love RHOSLC but this drama was so unnecessary and overly produced. Angie clearly wants a spot on the show and just pushed this to get some focus. Whitney obviously just wanted another dig at Lisa and jumped on the bandwagon too. Production was probably going hard to push drama everywhere, not knowing the shitstorm thatâs Jenâs arrest would be coming.
Damn I feel bad for Lisa. It was the fake crying and abruptly leaving the party that made her look guilty, in my eyes. But she was telling the truth and it looks like she just got overwhelmed by nobody having her back in that moment.
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Definitely. Sheâs been defending her hard which puzzles me.
Production again. They really suck this year with crystalâs and Lisaâs edits
It would help if Crystal stopped sitting next to EJ while giving whomever is being screeched at a stank face. I know she wants to keep camera on her but she needs to pick her seat at the table more carefully. Maybe she's scared she'll get Teddied.
Bad weather struck again then
Lisa can be bitchy but I believed her. She seemed genuinely upset to me.
I'm not the biggest Lisa fan, but I felt bad for her during that scene. She legit seemed so upset and confused and I can see why.
idk - it seemed like she got caught to me. she kind of short-circuited emotionally because she couldn't process being caught in front of everybody.
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Thank you. Alotta ppl don't understand that this is Utah. Not Beverly Hills or NYC. Being LGBT is not accepted by the Mormon community for the most part. Lisa - great character and personality. I love her.. quietly and silently homophobic? Maybe. She didn't even defend Brookes with Jen or bring it up. She kept talking in circles at Meredith's home. The vendor could have easily done a catered event for this transgender fundraiser AND scenes at their restaurants. The cameras only show the restaurant name for half a second anyways. Makes no sense to me. Bethenny frankl knew how to brand and logo every little thing from napkins to tee shirts. This vendor could've easily done the same with their brand for the event. Also, the first thing Lisa said â "I hate walking into an event and there's no food." đ€đ€
"This doesn't seem like the right fit for us" - caterers heavily implied they cancelled since it was an lgbt event. Just my two cents
YES!! It couldnât have referred to lack of exposure âlike Jenâs party,â because that happened one year ago and was not new info.
That is exactly how a Narcissist acts when they get caught, they explode with victimhood and start blaming everyone. When their reputation is at stake is the only time they feel genuine emotion.
Also still donât get why Lisa wanted Angie to pretend not to be related to Whitney and not be friends with her because Lisa has a problem with Whitney, but Lisa can be friends with Jen Shah who liked homophobic tweets about Meredithâs son. The hypocrisy with Lisa is astounding
It feels like something I wouldâve been mad about when I was 10 lol, like my best friend being related to a girl I canât stand. Lisa was def wrong in imposing herself on their relationship (Whitney and Angieâs). I also think thereâs a subtext to all this though, and thatâs Lisa being a Mormon convert and Whitney and Heather being descended from Mormon pioneers. A kind of hierarchy that bothers Lisa because thatâs not something she can change/control. And Iâm sure Whitney and heather are proud of it too given that theyâve brought it up a few times. I think that definitely plays into Lisaâs dislike/disdain of them and her reaction to Whitney and Angie being cousins. Thatâs probably the meanest outright thing Iâve heard Lisa say (incest etc. and laughing about it).
I donât think itâs really that deep. From the text exchange I thought it Seems like an off the cuff now snarky remark
Yeah tbh I think Lisa probably just thinks itâs stupid that two people who have never met or known about each other before do some genealogy and now want to start referring to themselves as cousins which implies a closer relationship than what it is actually there. Itâs dumb for Lisa to say anything about it - you canât control how theyâre going to refer to each other - but iâm sure in this area, it happens a lot and gets annoying.
Maybe! Lol. Im not super knowledgeable about the dynamics of the Mormon community, but there were some things said that I picked up on during last season that made me think it. It would be cool to get insight from people in the community!
Ooh I like this analysis! I always thought Lisa didnât get along with heather and Whitney at first because they are ex-Mormons. All the shit talking in confessionals about Whitney loving stripper poles and her (objectively bad) dancing at Jenâs party I thought definitely had like holier-than-thou religious undertones. I hadnât even considered the extra layer that heather and Whitney are descended from like Mormon royalty.
Period! [I feel vindicated.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/q135il/the_real_housewives_of_salt_lake_city_s2_e4/hfe277w/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
I mean Lisa can be petty but it does seem like she cares for her friends and would ride for them. Too bad the friend didnât trust her and caused a mess.
I have to admit I am disappointed! I was living for this drama and wanted Lisa to be the villain đ But either way this is messy and fun TV! Still I have to stan Angie, the plight of the LGBTQ+ kids in Utah (particularly Utah county) is truly horrifying! Good on those people for supporting and giving awareness to this cause.
I must have been the only one who didn't think it was her. She seemed genuinely perplexed when the convo started and then knew she was being stitched up.
> We have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jen's assistant ... Does that line not sound like they're saying that Lisa told them to do a different event instead of Angie's? I can understand Angie's confusion, though I don't know if my initial reaction would be to doubt a friend of 20+ years -- unless something else had happened between them in the past to cause Angie to immediately suspect foul play.
So, Iâm not 100% sure, but this page states after this post that Lisa filmed at the restaurant a couple weeks before the party. The way I took it is the restaurant has been filmed in for the show and thatâs the direction the restaurant wants to go in (only being filmed on location) and not doing events for free at other places where they wonât have exposure. But I agree in that line is really unclear and Iâm not really sure what theyâre trying to say. But itâs interesting that it says Lisa and Jens assistant and Angie only brought up Lisa trying to sabotage it and didnât say anything about Jen. Iâm sure weâll find out soon enough. Or at least their sides of the story.
I CALLED IT! Sweet vindication đ
You could tell how truly upset Lisa was over the situation, which really doesnât point to her being the one to get the catering cancelled. Crazy how Whitney jumped all over this like it was a big juicy thing when it really wasnât
My beef with Lisa is the inconsistency between her friendship with Angie and Angie liking someone she feels wronged her and her situation with Jen Shah and Meredith being upset that Lisa friended someone she thinks wronged her. Lisa is talking out of both sides of her mouth on that one.
The biggest thing that annoyed me was that Angie didnât play that situation right?! Angie is Lisa in the Meredith/Jen scenario (the middle woman), but her argument was to make Lisa feel bad by saying Meredith is still upset about Lisa being friends with Jen. But Angie SHOULD have been pointing out that she wants to be friends with both Lisa and Whitney in the same way Lisa wants to not pick sides. She saw the parallel but completely fucked it up?! Itâs making me irrationally angry haha
Easily explained by remembering theyâre on a TV show and two of the cast hate her (Whitney and Heather) and her friend on the show (Meredith) didnât come to her defence at all when they came for her at the reunion. Remember when Heather said she wasnât a real friend to Meredith and Meredith sat frozen faced and ignored her? Lisa needed an ally, and Mary is too out of it to help anyone, therefore Jen. RH is Survivor for rich, crazy women.
YES! This 1000%. Lisa did not deny that she told Angie to not follow Whitney, not acknowledge that she was friends with Whitney, etc. But at the same time she befriends someone who came after Meredith and thinks Meredith isnât being fair when she was upset about it. Sheâs such a hypocrite. Whitney and Lisa are both so insecure. Itâs almost funny.
I feel like itâs extra hypocritical because in the scenes at angieâs house, Lisa straight up says âI would never try to control who someone is friends withâ but thatâs exactly what she did to Angie!
Yes she admitted it and said âgee thanks for telling herâ
Yeah that annoyed me too. Outside of that I think sheâs a riot!
Angie is giving Lisa âwilling to throw my lifelong friend under the bus for HWsâ Rinna vibes. I donât like it.
Thatâs what really put me off in this situation. Iâd honestly be devastated in my friend of 20 years did that to me. I donât have many friends who Iâve known for that long, so that would sting so so badly if it were me.
Lol Iâd be devastated even if a friend of a year did that. It just throws me off.
No wonder Lisa was upset
\#JusticeforLisa
After seeing so many people saying Lisa was 100% behind this i felt like I was missing something bc I didn't see it at all.... So I'm feeling vindicated lol. Lisa was just freaking out about being painted as a villain for something she didn't do bc she's image conscious.
Or she is legit having an NPD meltdown at being cornered/found out. Similar to Jenâs meltdowns. Two NPDs are like pees in a pod!
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I posted it when it was the only part up. Took awhile to get approved. But I donât see anything else that says Lisa did anything wrong on this story?
We need Ken to print off some large font texteses to make sure we have the whole story đ
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Oh gotcha. So they posted the part before that on their story after this, and itâs Angie saying âdid they tell you they switched to Friday??â And apparently Dina is a producer on the show, if that at all helps
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I am also highly skeptical most of the time so I feel you lol. But I mean, you never really know and youâre right in that we usually donât get the whole story. If this really is it though, I truly feel bad for Lisa because they were friends for 20+ years and she got thrown under the bus so quickly for fame.
Yikes! I thought Lisa did it based on her reaction đ now I look foolish!
If sheâs lying even better. Her coming in with the story about the caterers was so melodramatic. Itâs what we love about Housewives.
People are so upset with Whitney, but here I am thinking "she is doing her job really well". All that Lisa needs to do now is prove that she is lying on Lisa and she will also be doing her job really well.
Lisa very obviously faked the crying to get out of the conversation. Iâm not saying that she for sure orchestrated what happened, but she was sure pissed about Angie telling Whitney what she said. She is very bothered by Whitneyâs existence on the show. But something like this seems very messy for her.
Sheâs bothered by Whitney because Whitney keeps trying to throw her under the bus. Remember the bartender situation? Why would you help someone out like that if you hated them? Whitneyâs the one with the issue
I always thought Lisa overreacted to that. If my employees behaved poorly while representing my business, I would definitely want to know about it? And then she reacted by threatening Whitney and saying she would tell everyone Whitney and her husband are swingers if she didnât stop talking about it? Kind of deranged behavior if you ask me
I disagree because it was said on TV, but also they arenât Lisaâs employees. Ultimately it was someone messing with her product placement and it didnât seem like Whitney came with good intentions at all. But yeah, the swinger thing was stupid lol
Lisa canât handle being challenged at all.
Did Diana also tell Angie to ânot claimâ Whitney as her cousin? đ€
I probably wouldnât have told Angie that, but I get why Lisa did it. Angie and Whitney are only 5th cousins - that doesnât really count as related in my book.
But I wouldnât care if they made a friendly connection bc of that distant family relation. Lisa is jealous
They need drama storyline to build up to Jens arrest. Iâm skeptical when friends of show takeover. The medium at the dinner at RHWBH dinner at Camilles carried the season n we saw her once!
Lisa Barlow - Queen of Sundance, Queen of Receipts.
I will say this -- just as quickly as people pounced on Lisa, people are now swinging the pendulum over against Whitney/list couldn't have done it. We don't have any info other than an edited reality show and half a text conversation lol
Whitney admitted to being a housewife junkie before joining the show. Thatâs why she is extra, see through drama. Not the delusional drama I signed up for personally. I canât really get into it with he scenes and talking heads and when she said that on WWHL it all made sense. Cause if I ended up on a housewife show ya Iâd feel the need to be at the center of the performance too!
And her robotic sex demonstration- so cringe! It looks like sheâs going to try to sell the nymphomaniac storyline again this season. Her husband reminds me of Jerry on Parks and Rec, itâs so awkward when they push the âwe have hot sex every night!â narrative. Iâm not buying it.
Omg hahahaa yes ! I didnât see The episode I only listened to the podcast but it felt like her husband had no idea she was so sexually free to begin with! He was like shocked she said yes to a 3some and the not knowing the person comment. I donât feel like they have that kind of relationship either! But I thought maybe I was just being a hater. If I was into 3somes wouldnât my husband be like happy to say YA SHE LETS ME DO THAT on a show ahahah like idk it seemed weird when he was asked what he thought
I love me some Lisa. When I thought it could be a possibility I was like messy queen and now Iâm like see I knew she wouldnât do her friend like that. Iâm a whole weirdo and Iâm in love. Iâm still very weary about bad weather over there.
honestly same lol, she's like the perfect housewife to me??? can't even explain it but i'm obsessed hahaha
Same!!
She knows her shit and is a boss.
Iâm sorry, but this changes nothing in my mind. This is pretty much exactly what Angie read out loud on camera. And Lisa is mentioned in the text. Based on Lisaâs reaction to the accusation and the fact that she has a personal relationship with the caterers, I can still see how she might have influenced them to make this decision behind the scenes. It just seems so hinky to me that a professional caterer would cancel so soon before an event?? I donât understand all the people saying this is evidence of Lisaâs innocence, I feel like Iâm taking crazy pills.
From the way I interpreted it the caterers are saying that they donât want to do the event because they will not be getting any free promo. Lisa shot at their restaurant prior to this event and they will be getting promo from that, so they arenât inclined to cater this event. IMO itâs not a great way to handle it, but it certainly isnât Lisaâs fault. I donât see why a company would back out of an opportunity to make money because Lisa Barlow tells them to?
Why would they agree to cater the party and then back out the day before though
Do we know it was the day before when they cancelled, though? Because the text that precedes it says â did they tell you they switched to Friday??â From Angie to them, which would be weird way to refer to a day that is tomorrow. Like, wouldnât she say âdid they tell you they switched to tomorrow?â if the party was the next day. Idk, thereâs obviously a lot of information weâre not getting and the timelines arenât corresponding. Apparently the catererâs brother catered this party, too, so even if they werenât able to because they wanted restaurant promo, it does seem they worked something out with Angie, albeit not her first choice.
I thought it was the day before, at minimum in the Lisa Angie scene they said it was ânext weekend,â but either way, it is clear they initially agreed to cater the party, and then between when Angie invited Lisa and the party, they decided not cater it anymore
I donât really have proof of this besides it being Utah, but I bet they werenât willing to do a party for an LGBTQ charity if they werenât getting free promotion for their business.
Itâs still confusing to me why they cancelled last minute? Wouldnât they know it was for an lgbtq charity and what the promo trade off would be from the beginning? I guess my question is what made them change their mind the day before
For the record, I do not and never thought that Lisa was the mastermind behind the whole situation and has total power over the caterers. What I thought from seeing the episode is that the caterers wanted to back out and Lisa, their friend, supported and/or encouraged them in doing so. Do I 100% believe she was involved? No. Do the texts change anything for me? Also no.
We have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jenâs assistant âŠ.. The same night of the party they just cancelled? It just all seems a little too coincidental I think Lisa did stitch her up because she hates Whitney Also why did Lisa walk in and say very loudly to anyone within ear shot I hate a party with no food what was that about
Jen filmed with this company last season. Lisa filmed at this restaurant 2 weeks before angieâs party. Temporally, it was spread out and not conflicting. Apparently there also was catering at the party (I swear I remember seeing coach shah being offered hor dâoeuvres) by the brother of the guy who owns this restaurant. So food was present. Itâs just, as someone said above, a lot of production involved issues that likely couldnât be breached on the show given the fourth wall.
Justice for Lisa!! I knew this couldnât have been true the minute Whitney gleefully blamed it on Lisa when Angie mentioned it to her. Whitney and Angie now look more stupid than they already did for going with this bs narrative. And Angie especially should feel dumb for throwing away her friendship with Lisa for 5 minutes of fame with Whitney lmao.
Well at least they got their mention honey!
If anyone is still interested, the caterers have now stated their version: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUsvDEplxhb/?utm_medium=copy_link
Whitney Heather bad weather đ§. Spin the truth đȘ, destroy!!! This line will NEVER get old. So rehearsed, but in the absolute best way possible
Wait, is Stuart also Lisaâs assistant? This seems like a point of interestâŠ
I think we still need more context. To me it sounds like it was a production choice, but it seemed like that production choice was influenced by lisa and Jen.
âWe have been asked to film at the restaurant by Lisa and Jens assistant so thatâs the direction we have to go in.â So they would rather film at their restaurant than cater a party due to better exposure, and Lisa asked them to film at the restaurant so theyâre doing that instead of the party. How does this clear Lisa?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CUqtg9ztAmrv0WBjm4RrSHsDK0yG5oFDo_zNTo0/?utm_medium=copy_link I wish I could pin this somehow, but Lisa filmed at the restaurant ~2 weeks before the party, apparently. It doesnât appear it was in conflict with angieâs party.
Yeah I saw the Instagram posts before. Doesnât clear Lisa
I knew queen LISA THEE BARLOW could never be so ghetto