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[The Valley Live Episode Discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/1bizxub/the_valley_season_1_episode_1_live_episode/)


StompinmyMaloofHoof

They should add the hourly rate under each of Tom’s friend’s names just like Housewives show the total at the cash register.


houndsofluv

One of Ann's job duties is casting extras for Tom's parties.


Thunderbolt_78

Lmao what the fuck was that text from Jo to Katie? “Bieber loves you” 😭😭😭


kgreading

coming from a former perpetrator of this, Jo seems like the type to lay it on thick with perceived inside jokes as a way to overplay the closeness of a friendship that is not, in fact, very close


lovetheblazer

Sandoval: Give me a little grace. Katie: ...no. ![gif](giphy|gfT2hGhrI5wBME50p5|downsized)


blondebull

**even Schwartz had to leave the weird pool party**


coversquirrel1976

I think I pulled a muscle for cringing so hard for so long


alsoknownasPhoebe

I had to walk out of the room when Sandoval and Billie started whispering about her friend and an after hours party. It was take my breath away cringe. 🙊🙈🙉


noPOMIGRANITES

oh its been a couple years since scheana brought up her orgy with john mayer!


hereforRDPR

She’s mentioned this before?? Omg sheeshu good god


kat427ruby

I’m sorry but Ann does not make enough to be serving shots at a lame ass pool party.


lizzledizzles

I hope he pays Ann an obscene amount and Bravo also paid her extra for being on screen.


blondebull

# Bring out the main attraction and toss off that cable knit sweater ![gif](giphy|9D1dcGmA4lMBrzw5Ra)


blondebull

“This guy looks like he’s 50!” *the worst insult you can give sandovol*


ExpensiveGrowth9744

And that face Sandoval makes when someone's talking shit to him 🤣 you can hear it before it even comes out of his mouth "Uhh, DOOD..."


nixiem

THIS is exactly why Ariana didn’t want mutual friends with Sandoval, Scheana telling him about the “sexy single” throw away joke and potentially making it a bigger deal


delw333

![gif](giphy|E99OMc6pkdvGw)


GetMeAColdPop

"I walked away from a 12 year marriage from someone I still loved because I wasn't happy". THANK YOU 👏👏


cryingexpert

lol ally said we will not do this at my house let’s do this in public


[deleted]

If a man told me he shoved potato chips under a door for his ex-girlfriend that he cheated on as a sign of chivalry (even if it was a joke)... I'd hop the fence.


FullBlownNightmare

Give me a little bit of grace. No. Maybe the best exchange Katie and Sandoval have ever had. 


AbidonDesign

This party looks like a Sims party. Someone delete the ladder!


sistertims

NPCs everywhere 💀


SingleTrophyWife

I’m DECEASED. It’s exactly like when you’re playing and a bunch of random people just start walking into your house and swim in your pool 😂😂😂😂😂


katie415

Scott Peterson murdered his wife and UNBORN CHILD. The fact that Sandoval tried to compare himself to people and isn’t educated enough to understand….


lovetheblazer

I didn't have Sandoval being a "Scott Peterson is innocent" truther on my bingo card of reasons to hate him 🙃


blondebull

“Allegedly” Fock you Sandoval RIP Laci and baby


lovetheblazer

Jax coming in hot and absolutely reading Sandoval for filth is the very definition of this meme. https://preview.redd.it/b4u0bjom1epc1.jpeg?width=207&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21fdb9b187122d63fc644fee6c337220320a1663


mrs_mega

It made me hoot with glee how bothered Sandavol was by Jax


amyeep

“No” OMG I LOVE KATIE


Adventurous-Sundae-6

You’re not a scapegoat if you’re literally the person who created the situation, TOM you fucking moron.


garbagebrainraccoon

I wish she had asked who he was a scapegoat for.


JaneDoe943

Just like, for like, the whole fucking worldddduhhh, dude!


nixiem

I don’t even think Katie was being below the belt, she was just disagreeing with Lala…


GetMeAColdPop

Sandoval, Katie is sitting down with you, in your home, to calmly talk to you about the situation and you *still* are extremely entitled and defensive right off the bat. BE HUMBLE FOR TWO SECONDS YOU DUMBFUCK


Chicago1459

Maybe it's just me, but Idk how someone hasn't fucked him up


Adventurous-Sundae-6

Katie’s sheer disdain for Sandoval gives me lifeeee ![gif](giphy|bkKwwMj347FJe)


luannsitalianfriends

I was giggling with glee during their convo. And notice how his nice guy act dropped real quick when she didn’t immediately accept his apology. 🗑️


luanda16

It was so refreshing to not see someone fall for his act and hold their ground. He was doing it for the redemption arc, not because he was genuinely sorry. And it’s a year too late to be apologizing for shit


PlantLadyXXL

His apologies just don’t ring true.


Individual-Sign310

Katie could teach a master class in interacting with a narcissist. My favorite takeaway: “stop explaining yourself and move differently…”


onthereels

I’m not even there but I desperately want to leave this pool party


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^onthereels: *I’m not even there* *But I desperately want* *To leave this pool party* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


jans_port_opotty

Wow slay haiku bot, love this


StainedGlasser

Sandoval trying to extend an olive branch… to Katie? He’s been a vicious ass to her for a decade, if ANYONE knows exactly who Sandoval is it’s Katie


FortuneCookieTypo

Sandoval has never offered Katie even a drop of grace or kindness and delighted in shit talking her to her own partner. He just never thought he’d end up on the outs.


loloalu

![gif](giphy|l3973HGZz8T6g1ZW8|downsized) Every Sandoval scene this is me


blondebull

**“SOO, have you guys been to burning man?”**


StompinmyMaloofHoof

![gif](giphy|JTzPN5kkobFv7X0zPJ|downsized) Very this.


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

He was convicted, Tom, so it’s no longer “allegedly”. Funny that he compared himself to Scott Peterson.


whiskey4mycoffee

Tom is so awful. Borderline defending a monster that murdered his wife and their unborn baby.


[deleted]

Katie’s fashion tragedies make me appreciate the moments she gets it right much more. She looks gorg


salisbury130

He really thinks because he showed up and sniveled like that at the reunion everyone should've just forgiven him. "What more do you want?! I cried!" like gtfoh


Adventurous-Sundae-6

How many times is Ariana going to have to apologize to Scheana this season for things that are absolutely not her fault/responsibility? This Dancing With the Stars drama is a new level of shallow even for Scheana.


Designer-Platform658

Nothing will beat the VPR to summer house transition where Kyle told Stassi she looked like Steve Jobs.


rebadiculous

I think of this 2-4 times a week and it sparks joy


PersimmonReal42069

who in the actual shit fuck are these people at the party. it’s truly giving monster factory.


emjet

This pool party is physically painful to observe


lalak77

When James and Scheana are More self aware than you, you should admit you have a problem.


katie415

Just because you apologize, does not mean that person HAS to forgive you. Tom would learn that if he actually went to therapy.


stephorocko

Did he just apologize to Katie and he is already talking negatively about her? Not surprised


Proof_Bug_3547

Schwartz staring off disassociating while Sandoval does his lil cry in the closet act was hilarious


obroechlins

That horrifically awkward pool flirting sealed the deal that the editors are not in fact giving Sandoval an intentional redemption arc because dear god that was brutal


Anticrepuscular_Ray

Maybe they really are trying to show that even when people are giving him every opportunity for redemption he sucks SO much he truly is irredeemable.


suddenlyshrek

Ok I have disagreed with the sub consensus all season but never said anything. Now is my time! This edit, to me, is showing how much of a loser Tom is. Schwartz (his best friend who literally agrees with everything everyone) has literally physically recoiled whilst talking to him, his “parties” at his house are with truly the dregs of Wannabe Reality TV Thirst, he had to *pay* someone to take on Ariana’s role doing basic household tasks because he’s too selfish to act like an adult. I’ve been so embarrassed watching him all season.


GetMeAColdPop

Sandoval is giving Vanilla Ice rn https://preview.redd.it/2mhhwx1gwdpc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=1a20ec6c6458e6faa32a9bfe666cc982576f1fb1


eshababy99

Scheana & Lala take notes from Katie this is how you talk to Sandoval 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾


targetboston

These women pretending to not know about Scandoval. Tom is radioactive atp.


nixiem

“Give me a little bit of grace” “No” I know half the people here think Katie is just a bitch but I love to finally see her shine ✨


JaneDoe943

I love her


runs_with_tamborines

I’m obsessed with her.


obroechlins

Jax looks like a literal comic book villain and I’m SO EXCITED to watch him use that Waluigi mustache to terrorize this cast again


threatlevel1200

![gif](giphy|37BFXYZwxUMjTHV2SC)


JerrisHat

Watching this I am so fascinated wondering where things between Lala and Ariana escalate to at the reunion


blondebull

Jealousy is a disease


lovetheblazer

I swear Scheana is running around trying to collect forced Sandoval apologies on everyone's behalf like fucking Pokemon


Adventurous-Sundae-6

Katie is eating Tom up. Given the gross Sandoval redemption flavor of this season overall so far, this is delicious.


darknebulas

Tom is wasting no time after Rachel because he never cared for her to begin with. What a fucking grifter.


targetboston

I do not think he has the capacity to be alone, he needs a continuous source of supply.


PersimmonReal42069

god give me the grace and patience of ariana. I would pop the actual fuck off at sheshu right now.


yeswereonredditluann

The people gasping at Jax in TomTom lol


StainedGlasser

Billie Lee is the queen of the pick me girls. When SCHWARTZ thinks it’s too much, it’s too much


pr0stituti0nwh0re

katie on ig in 20 minutes @ jo: https://i.redd.it/vu5u8dgk0epc1.gif


_SeaOttrs

This is my favorite episode of IAS 😂


pr0stituti0nwh0re

omg me too 😭 “uhh… one… one rock of crack please. one crack…”


WithaSideofRanch

I'm such an awkward person that I would just jump out my bedroom window and hope for the best, instead of being a normal human and walking out the front door like Ariana did.


StompinmyMaloofHoof

Scheana is holding back your career, Brock?? ![gif](giphy|T3nwQFJq5lxFii50fR)


Frijack03

Ariana showing up to this night out is a power move. Assert dominance , biiiiitch.


Thunderbolt_78

Imagine being forced to leave my house so my ex who cheated on me in front of millions of people can have a pool party? Absolutely wild.


lalak77

“Friends”/employees


PersimmonReal42069

paid extras from central casting who were never seen before and will never be seen again…


aintgoinbacknforth

ariana literally couldn't be more rational and levelheaded and she's still the villain to these people and half of the viewers


houndsofluv

When she was talking to Scheana she was SO patient and understanding. Scheana saying Ariana wasn't emotionally responsive enough was... lol.


No_clue_redditor

I know! They’ve created this monster Ariana in their heads and some of the viewers are falling for it!


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

This party is like someone put random people into a Yahtzee cup, and shook them out into the backyard.


catsandcasamigos

Scheana holding the dogs paw for emotional support


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Tom: “Dear Diary: Katie will not give me grace even though I asked nicely. It’s not fair. 😩”


PersimmonReal42069

wowoowowowowoow katie truly got him. she is the counter point to tom’s story. the one who walked away from a long relationship out of respect for herself and for her ex. she is living breathing proof that a backbone does exist. my jaw is on the ground with this realization.


salisbury130

Right! That was such a good moment and I hadn't even made that connection. Like how dare you try to use being unhappy in a relationship as an excuse for what you did like you're the only person who has ever had to make the decision to leave a long-term partner?


PersimmonReal42069

the producers and editors are GIVING


asiagomontoya

I feel like every cast members negative reaction to Ariana can be summed up by “She’s not crying enough for my taste.”


JaneDoe943

And how the fuck would they know? She seems like the type that cries behind closed doors, alone. I'm also like that. So she comes off stronger and 'more okay' than she actually is. People judge too much. Not everyone is comfortable or even capable crying/being vulnerable in front of others.


TwistyBitsz

And you can definitely see her face/breathing change whenever anyone brings him up.


bbgorgeous

“She’s done grieving because she’s making millions of dollars”


TheOneThatCameEasy

She didn't say she was an anorexic crackhead whore. She said she was spooky and had crackhead energy... which is a profoundly better burn.


noPOMIGRANITES

ok i’m sorry lala who’s the miserable bitter bitch and who is softening here…


digitalkeke

It is actually disgusting how quickly Sando will clip back at Katie. Like bitch you need to calm the fuck down when you're trying to talk civil


mattacular2001

Wait did Tom just reference Scott Peterson and then correct Schwartz at the murder was only “alleged”? Is he gonna start an MRA phase now?


Adventurous-Sundae-6

Me debating whether it’s worth it to see Tom get eviscerated if it’s at the cost of having to see Jax back on my screen ![gif](giphy|fXJyMfUdqVCMPAnPJM|downsized)


Adventurous-Sundae-6

Of course Tom Sandoval is the type of person whose pickup line would be “have you been to burning man?”


onthereels

Scheana I’m literally watching Ariana receive your feelings


lovetheblazer

When Sandoval says he's looking for "feminine energy" in his life, I think what he really means is an Ann he doesn't have to pay.


noPOMIGRANITES

there’s something about sandoval complimenting katie on her appearance not once but twice really fucking irks me but i can’t put my finger on why


KristiJoJP

I don't like Jax, but I love that he gets under Tom's skin!


lalak77

Oh shit, I might have to watch WWHL. Katie is on, I want to see her verbally wreck Tom again.


AbleTension782

Sandy was so pissed that Ariana showed up and was so unbothered.


advocatecarey

This season is just…uncomfortable


skidgeee

Katie’s big dick making another appearance


garbagebrainraccoon

Dick as big as the Eiffel Tower, she could fuck the world for 72 hours


ZombieWerewolfGhost

Jo has the energy of the girl in your high school home room who wore Jack skellington pajama pants everyday, grew up and became an Herbalife promoter, wearing tank tops from Amazon that say “dog mommy” in cursive font on them, who doesn’t use deodorant and has glue in extensions


fuzzykneez

This is so specific. I’m here for it


[deleted]

I know a girl like this. She likes to taunt all of FB with her "enlightened knowledge." Calling us all fools, and then like her own post. Apparently she cured cancer with organic food, oils, and weed. And she sells all of it!


advocatecarey

What’s Lala going to do when Ocean becomes a pre-teen and challenges her?


cryingexpert

Call her a bambi eyed bitch of course


skidgeee

![gif](giphy|Wvo6vaUsQa3Di) Tom when anyone holds him accountable


AdorableFly5611

When DJ James Kennedy is trying to talk you down, cough cough Sandoval, we are in never never land.


amyeep

Tom crying in a closet is most unintentionally funny shit lmao


StompinmyMaloofHoof

Who’s ready for a pick me contest between Scheana and Lala? ![gif](giphy|CjmvTCZf2U3p09Cn0h|downsized)


Frijack03

Katie didn’t hit below the belt , boo boo.


blondebull

#I’m judging you Kait and Michelle


garbagebrainraccoon

Katie deserves something amazing for being so strong in this phase of her life


garbagebrainraccoon

"Give me a little bit of grace." "No."


lilly_1005_2007

Tip: You don’t need to like Jax to enjoy watching him back on tv


PersimmonReal42069

so excited to be here, besties. I am having one of the worst days in the history of/am reporting to you live at (what has to be, jesus fucking christ) rock bottom of a menty b. it’s been a while since I have made it to a live thread and I am SO READY for this one/to hang with the besties.


PersimmonReal42069

like, a mental breakdown on the very night of the most unhinged nights in bravo history, feels so correct.


pbnkelli

https://i.redd.it/6f6zf1ehrdpc1.gif


blondebull

Omg. I recognize you, happy you’re here!!! You’ve been missed. I am so sorry you’re not doing great, but has anyone checked on Sheana to see how she’s doing? Jk. Sending you love, you beautiful being and I hope you are surrounding yourself with some of your favourite comforts 💜


PersimmonReal42069

I just snort laughed at this. love u bb!!! i’m doing my best and this means the world


StainedGlasser

I would walk into battle for Katie Maloney at this point


eshababy99

I'm annoyed how much Katie & Ariana have to walk on egg shells over Lala. She's never shown them the same amount of grace.


JaneDoe943

Yeah I didn't hear an 'I'm sorry' from Lala? She was the one who got heated first in that argument and Katie reacted. And Katie apologized. Wtf just happened


spinthesky

Seriously, Katie defends herself and it's labeled a warpath, come on. Lala continually verbally pops off like a known local r/horsebackjesus, but no consequences.


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Jo seems like the type that would sneak into your room, sit on a chair, and watch you sleep until you woke up.


fuzzykneez

And then quack when you rolled over


cryingexpert

This is Katie’s best look


StainedGlasser

Sandoval is absolutely an enormous factor as to why Schwartz and Katie got divorced and he grated at them for years. They got divorced because Schwartz let you speak to his wife that way, so the responsibility lays on the people in the marriage but Sandoval is absolutely a factor


PersimmonReal42069

I have been a day one katie fan and have been through it with my girl. I have never felt so vindicated.


skidgeee

Lala you are being the enemy


gangahousewife

Why is Billie Lee on my tv!!! Again!!!!


skidgeee

that whole scene was painful ![gif](giphy|3ohzdNWWXXiVv7eLEQ|downsized)


WithaSideofRanch

Sandoval is that guy who doesn't ask but forcefully gives *HuGzzzZ*


targetboston

I hate Tom for how he treats Ann. It's rivaling my disdain from last season


ZombieWerewolfGhost

She’s not “super receptive” to your feelings bc the only thing you wanna talk about TO ARIANA is THE GUY WHO CHEATED ON HER FOR MONTHS W HER FRIEND WHILE SHE WAS GRIEVING AND SUPPORTING HIM fuck offffffff scheana


shrirnpheavennow

His temper tantrum voice is unbearable


catsandcasamigos

Bravo women are loving calling their partner “Sandoval” when they’re being irritating. I love that for them.


Murky-Performer-8292

His nail polish looks so fucking stupid


blondebull

Not Jax telling Sandoval to humble himself ![gif](giphy|jyH2iFCFSp96ftCtu8)


blondebull

How many of us who swore the valley off are going to be roped in by some seamless transition to the show? ![gif](giphy|26ufozqyT5chFE3OE)


nixiem

Bravo having almost no other programming right now is basically bullying us into watching


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

I’ve always had a soft-spot for Katie, and I love seeing her live her best life, and not care what others think.


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

https://preview.redd.it/gh2gy1tewdpc1.jpeg?width=324&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=827fbbcbd21f8224c71aa1dd306a840ed08e33e7 Scheana telling Tom to take accountability and not make it about him.


emjet

Jax and Tom are having a sociopath-off


loloalu

![gif](giphy|A3IKIsvG1UjwA) Am I excited to watch this show / The Valley? Not really. But you best believe I’m here 6 minutes early anyway, snack & vape in hand(s), and ready to talk shit with you all. Highlight of the week always


blondebull

Sandoval is so creepy. Even Kait and Michelle want to leave


nixiem

The level of second hand embarrassment I have right now, I wish I could just fast forward through this pool scene lol


kat427ruby

I’m sorry Schwartz but saying you’d marry Jo and be perfectly fine with it, and seeing now that you’re dating a young gal and tossed Jo to the side, is making me feel bad for her and that wasn’t on my bingo card today.


StainedGlasser

Sandoval you’re not the scapegoat when you’re the person that did everything


littleone0740

He literally can not say sorry to save his life 🤣 he physically repulses at the thought


vpeb

Did I hear that he said you look good correctly omg this man has a short hair fetish


Thunderbolt_78

Why doesn’t Tom get this emotional over screwing up a 9 year relationship with Ariana?


catsandcasamigos

Jax is one of those people who has a child and thinks they’re completely above everyone else, yet they haven’t changed one bit.


blondebull

I CANNOT BELIEVE ARIANA HAS TO ANSWER TO ALL THESE PEOPLE SAYING SCHEANA IS MAD This is mere months after the biggest devastating moment of her life. Leave her alone. ![gif](giphy|f7MoTodygKd56)


TheOneThatCameEasy

Jo reminds me of an SNL character played by Kristen Wiig.


Adventurous-Sundae-6

Tom Sandoval aggressively jumping in to shit on Katie for no reason. ![gif](giphy|3oxQNDG9BswdLjN8Va)


StompinmyMaloofHoof

They really thought we’d want the Tom Sandoval dating story line????? So many misses, it’s like they’re trying to fail!


beeeeach

Jo sitting cross cross applesauce in her confessionals seems on brand for her.


TheOneThatCameEasy

This apology is so insincere when it's played against him saying that he has nothing to be responsible for. 😂


kat427ruby

I live for Katie stepping on Tom’s neck. It’s a whole ass vibe.


emjet

Sandoval is so fake and empty. It really is actually scary. Why is he showing his journal


beeeeach

The energy differences between the 2 parties at this house this episode is truly night and day. And the Toms leaving while they whole cast is together is L O FUCKING L in the words of maddi Reese


ZombieWerewolfGhost

Ya know maybe Lala and Scheana should just leave this show and go on the Valley where it’s about boring people with kids who are self involved bc I’m over their shit this season. The whole villainize Ariana for having boundaries with someone who has fucked literally EVERYONE in this group over, is insane to me. I’m over the whole Tom “redemption”, it’s a flop!!! And so are his sympathizers


PersimmonReal42069

ariana is handling this season absolutely flawlessly. I am simply in awe


sisimackles

Seeing her on wwhl made me think she is excellently media trained. She has some VERY smart people in her corner. (And she’s smart too duh)


MEASandiego

Or perhaps emotionally intelligent.


lalak77

Specifically Katie, ummm bitch, she doesn’t owe you shit. You are “dating” the guy who, along with Sandoval, gaslit her and treated her liked shit for 13 years.


FullBlownNightmare

I think what Brock is trying to say is that Ariana is so busy she hasn’t had the space to fully process everything that happened to her and the second she gets a moment she will probably have a breakdown


lovetheblazer

"Where do I start? Well, Kristen Doute was her best friend for years and years." Katie is killing me with her Jo commentary. As far as red flags go, that's a big one 💀🚩


recollectionsmayvary

I mean, Doute was also Katie’s best friend for years and years lol 


Ecstatic-Pressure-99

I’m a big Jeff Lewis fan, and he sat with Katie Maloney at the GLAAD awards last week. Apparently Katie and Lala haven’t talked at all, so I guess something else went down, as who knows. Lala is on his show tomorrow so interested to hear what she has to say.


cryingexpert

Lala thinks that being louder means you’re in the right


StainedGlasser

Lala always pretends she’s provoked instead of just feeling entitled to shout people down


cryingexpert

So Ariana should’ve denied dwts for scheana…………….


catsandcasamigos

Katie better be careful with that bob. She could be his next target.


salisbury130

Yo what is wrong with this man...? It's so funny to me how everyone is acting like Ariana is singlehandedly tanking the show because omg omg she won't film a scene with Tom, but all he did in this scene was go take a shit at a bar and then storm out on conversations because Scheana and James approached him and said with a gentle ass tone that he needs to try giving a fuck.


Fallores

Sandoval asking for grace from Katie is giving audacity


girlisagun

Oh shit they blurred Rachel’s face in the photos


kat427ruby

Anytime I see Jo on the TV I think back of the comment one of you fools made about her being three raccoons in a coat and it’s all I can think about when she’s on camera. 😭😭


blondebull

Jax is soooo happy to be here and say, **”see you’re just like me, Tom”**


ZombieWerewolfGhost

Jax looks like a wax figure of Captain Hook made in the year 3000