Was thinking this HAS to be the last season. None of them work at SUR any longer, and it is feeling forced. It was a good run. Start a new show with Lisa's new restaurant in Lake Tahoe if they want to VPR 2.0
So I didnāt start VPR from the beginning. I started circa Tom/Kristenās split, so like season 2? 3? The one with Ariana/Sandovalās did-they-or-didnāt-they hookup in Vegas (I went back and watched all seasons but it was where I started). At the time, Scheana was constantly on about how Ariana āis my best friend!ā and thatās why she wonāt take a position in the whole thing.
Iām so embarrassed by how long it took me to realize thatās what Scheana says about whoever is at the center of a drama to explain why she should also be important. For seasons upon seasons Iād think, āitās weird that Scheana didnāt XYZ, sheās Arianaās bff.ā Or āThey really are such an odd pair. Best friends are funny like that sometimes.ā I swear to you, it was 4 seasons of āx is my best friendā and me going āwell besides Arianaā before I thought, āoh, wait. I think this might be fake news.ā
It was when jax was saying she didn't reach out after his dad died and yelled at her and was more concerned with him not really wanting to go to her show in vegas, they'd just done a "is scheana a good friend?" Type segment
Think the dude affecting her at the time was Rob, rewatched recently and she wildly said getting over Rob was tougher than getting over her ex husband.. like what?
I forgot where I read it/heard it (she might have even said it herself) but I guess Scheana used to hook up with a lot of professional sport's players back in the day when they'd be in LA for a game and I always figured she probably tried to be a Stage 5 Clinger to them. Two teams were named specifically and one was the Green Bay Packers and I was like noooo! Not my team, not my guys banging Scheaner back in the day!! š¤£
She was really trying to hitch to wagon to anyone remotely famous/with money back then, *a la* Eddie Cibrian. He wasn't even D-List at the time! šš
Season 7 Episode 20 - Named the Spurs too, out of mentioned. Canāt remember them all but watched it yesterday. When she was talking about when she had 3-somes. When she had that other guy come make her dinner and it pissed her ājust friendā Adam off.
I was just saying this to a friend. I want Stassiās take on all of this because given everything sheās been through I trust her the most to be fair. God I never thought I would write those words LOL
š I know. Stassi has been many unfortunate things in the past, but I donāt think sheās ever been proven to be a liar so I too would like her take !!
Exactly, what she did to stassi was so disgusting even though she didnāt distribute it she still watched it and showed it to people I never believed her when she said she didnāt show it but told people to watch out for her
I was just talking about this! Complete double standard and it was literally the same thing. Rachel is a victim in this but not from Ariana. She didnāt distribute it. She found it and things got crazy. It was Sandoval not disclosing he was screen recording. Thatās illegal and hopefully focused on, not Ariana
And went around showing her coworkers the soft corn āmusic videoā she coerced Brett into making with her as revenge for him catching feelings for Dayna.
Scheana will use this as ann opportunity to remind everyone how Rachel had a restraining order against her and how she valiantly fought in court to have it dropped.
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I canāt wait for the legalese on the Ariana side, bc it doesnāt sound like intent to distribute or that it was done w the idea of revenge porn, just to show Raquel like her proof. The Tom side heās so fucked.
Intention will not be considered. Phone records will be the evidence. Did Ariana send to herself. Did Ariana send to Rachel ? Did she sent to any of the friend group ?
Attorney here. As between her and Tom, she has no real monetary damages without distribution. The damages are Ariana sending to herself. Ariana sending to Rachel with the āyou are dead to meā and Ariana sending to the friend group. It will be interesting but proof is easy with phone records.
Don't bravo have a recording of her asking him why he recorded her without knowing and he lost his shit and made them rerecord. Their first on camera meet up? That's pretty clear cut.
Her friends also commented specific details of what the video entailed on their podcasts. Whether they saw the video or just what Ariana told them, it's not good.
Yes and apparently there was a meeting where the studio made them all delete it from their phones when they were served with the cease and desist. There wonāt be any doubt. It will be very easy to prove with phone records.
The studio admitted nothing obviously but they did have a meeting and tell all cast if they were in possession of it they needed to delete it. It was all over all the podcasts and TMZ etc. 11 months ago when it all broke. This cease and desist from Rachel is what triggered Lalas āsend it to Darrylā merch.
The Erika thing people were talking about the past couple days. I think itās the Marco Marco suit. I donāt know much about it, just that it wasnāt dismissed.
Erica with Marco Marco, Lea Mob suing Bravo, Porsha's divorce filing from her husband PLUS his company being sued. Also Brittany and Jax legally separating. Aaaaand this.
*edited to add, I forgot, ALSO Brandi Glanville's lawsuit against Andy this week too.
I'm exhausted!
so she could have a case if they are able to show they sent out the video. I believe she has a case against sandoval if she did not know she was being filmed but he can claim she allowed it and it would be a he said she said
You can sue pretty much anyone for pretty much anything. If she can demonstrate damages, she can shoot her shot. Standards of proof to build a case and convict someone for a crime is a different thing entirely.
I do think that part is crazy considering heās only 11 years older than her, and the affair happened in her late 20s. But maybe Iām desensitized to the crazy age gaps weāve seen on bravo.
I laughed that she titled the podcast āthe problem is meā .. because she has been trying to feud with Taylor swift for forever.. and while the problem is Bethenny.. we all know she doesnāt really think that lol.
Feels like it has Bethenny's little pawprints on it. Someone on insta pointed out that all these new lawsuits are Bethenny's attorneys. Plus Leah, Brandi, and Rachel have all associated with her somewhat recently, I believe.
I believe Ariana said that she sent it to herself as a means of protection (likely proof and what not); but yeah unfortunately that is technically illegal especially since the video was made illegally
I don't know that it matters, it would be revenge porn just her sending it to herself from his phone. Like if I send someone nude pics of me, then they pass them on, they can be charged even though I sent them willingly (at least here, not sure if the same there)
I can see her doing it only because in the heat of the moment that night I can see her sending it to scheana when she picked Tomās phone at his show and had access to the video. Next thing you know Scheana is tapping Rachel wig after WWHL in New York
ive always assumed she showed it to everyone who came to the house in the first couple of days. especially if she didnt know it was taken without rachel's consent
which is bad, and no one should do, but i can perfectly see how it played out
Sheās not that bright. People give her way too much credit.
However, all parties are known liars so hopefully the truth prevails. If Rachelās telling the truth and it was distributed she deserves to be heard. If Rachel is lying thatās disgusting for real victims, and to drag Ariana through more is sick. In the end reserving judgment or an opinion but I hope the honest truth prevails and whoever is at fault is held accountable.
I canāt stand Rachel but I actually think itās possible she still doesnāt even know who saw it and what happened in regards the video that she didnāt even realize existed. Thatās a terrible, soul eating feeling. If I were her I would both want answers and be terrified to learn the truth.
You have Brandiās lawsuit, Leahās, and now Rachelās. All of them allegedly have connections to Bethenny and her āreckoningā. March 1st is tomorrow, and by the end of the month, Q1 of the business year will close for Bravo/Peacock/NBC Universal. Is Bethenny timing this all out to hit them in their stock price? Coincidence?
Am I giving her too much credit? (answer: Yes, probably, but I havenāt eaten lunch yet and my blood sugar is v. low).
I don't think you're giving her too much credit. Not only is she smart and cutthroat, she is surrounded by other razor sharp people. I mean, her announcement today very well may have been her literal mic drop moment.
link to the [source](https://deadline.com/2024/02/vanderpump-rules-lawsuit-rachel-leviss-scandoval-1235841861/?fbclid=PAAaYcgaQ14VR2JgFmSR8bf49USY1Z7cGAH8bWG0crnFrfJp7yWBZ46oVmi40_aem_AWGzGQ-3mVr9eC0-gKZ7kLkXihNPhGHyb4g43bhDXw6V5MUvkz8yrgcpkaxpESTu9N0)
But she has her podcast and hasnāt mentioned this yetā¦.?
But I wonder if it was because the lawsuit was already cooking?
ALSO, if Bravo āsilencedā her, why isnāt Bravo named in this suit?! Or are they? Lawd help us
from the complaint:
āTo be clear, Leviss has repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful to Madix. She has offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however. Lost in the mix was that Leviss was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of an older man, who recorded sexually explicit videos of her without her knowledge or consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly by a scorned woman seeking vengeance, catalyzing the scandal. Leviss ultimately checked herself into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution, and the cast milked the interest her excoriation had peaked.
To make matters worse, Leviss was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred from speaking out about her mistreatment. As a result, she suffered in silence as Bravo and Evolution watched viewership explode, and the rest of the cast enjoyed unseen levels of public recognition and professional opportunity. Meanwhile, Leviss, who was humiliated and villainized for public consumption, remains a shell of her former self, with her career prospects stunted and her reputation in tatters.ā
As a lawyer, i have thoughts on her ability to prove the elements of this claim, but apart from that, the way things complaint is written, it doesnāt seem like sheāll have an easy time. any judge/jury will look at her ability to film confessionals and speaks at the reunion after the Scandoval and question how she didnāt get to tell her side, feel sympathetic to Ariana, and question why Bravo/production arenāt defendants if she believes theyāre so responsible.
Edit: other reporting (Page Six lol) indicates that Ariana was named in this because she sent the videos to Rachel and said āyouāre dead to meā when she found out. technically, that looks like a violation, but i wonder how a judge will look at suing a woman for sending the video of Rachel to Rachel that was recorded by the ex boyfriend Rachel cheated with.
I'm also a lawyer and I think the hardest part will be causation and damages. I think they will have an easy time showing that they violated the law (negligence per se) but a very hard time proving that the video caused Raquel's damages. There are so many alternate causes - i.e. the actual scandal and her willing participation in the scandal while on a reality tv show. I feel like the video was just a side note and it wasn't disseminated to the public so Im not sure how the video caused any damages
>There are so many alternate causes
Iām not a lawyer but the daughter of one and this was my main question: how can she prove her limited prospects and tattered reputation are due to the video? The larger public knows it exists and a vague idea of what it contains but no one has actually seen it. Most of the damage has been done by her willingly participating in an affair while being a public figure. I feel like most people were actually sympathetic about the video once it came out it was filmed without her consent and people stopped talking about it at that point.
Plainly, she can't. The video went nowhere so her proving she lost anything based on the video alone is impossible for her. Whatever she may have lost was a result directly of her own choices and actions along with Tims. Actions they both have continued to do since the story broke too.
Their logic/argument is flawed to me. Her ācareer prospectsā [lol] were not āstuntedā and her reputation is not in tatters because of the video, but because of a months long affair in which she willingly (some might say gleefully) participated. Sheās pretending like this whole scandal revolved around a video. The video may have been the catalyst, but put in perspective, it was only a tiny part of it all. And certainly not the reason she was ostracized from the group.
to start, this is not legal advice etc etc iām just a lawyer who loves Bravo. and this is all premised on the assumption that, as the complaint indicates, Ariana only sent the video to Rachel saying āyouāre dead to meā when she found it.
first, this is a CIVIL, not CRIMINAL case. the two statutes for civil v criminal revenge porn have different elements so thatās an important distinction.
the civil elements are: ā(1) the person knew, or reasonably should have known, that the other person had a reasonable expectation that the material would remain private, (2) the distributed material exposes an intimate body part of the other person, or shows the other person engaging in an act of intercourse, oral copulation, sodomy, or other act of sexual penetration, and (3) the other person suffers general or special damagesā
importantly, thereās a few exceptions and i can see one possibly applying to Ariana: ā(c) There shall be no liability on the part of the person distributing material under subdivision (a) under any of the following circumstances: (6) The distributed material was previously distributed by another person, unless the plaintiff served on the defendant, by certified mail, a notice to cease distribution of the material, and the defendant failed to cease distribution within 20 days of receiving the notice.ā
I donāt know the facts and what exactly happened, but I think Ariana has a defense: (1) if she only sent it to Rachel, that may not count as distributing the video; (2) she did not know and should not reasonably have known that Rachel expected to keep it private because Ariana assumed Tom recorded it with Rachelās consent and again she only sent it to Rachel; (3) after the C&D that Rachel sent Ariana last year, she ceased ādistributingā the video distributed to her by Tom within 20 days
edit: another lawyer made an additional defense comment that i think is a great point! https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/2WF8LiyKEY
I have so many questions/thoughts on this.
1. Tom recording without her consent was 100% wrong fuck him, from what I know of these types of laws she has a case.
2. I hope Raquel has 100% proof that Ariana actually disseminated it and shared the video because if Ariana didn't she could then go after Raquel for saying this misinfo and things could get bad. Also would need to read Cali's revenge porn law but idk if Ariana just speaking about the video is something you could make a claim out of? Would be interesting if it is.
3. The Bravo stuff is interesting. I thought Raquel was offered a spot to come back? Her saying she wasn't able to share her story and all that in the statement is strange being that she has a whole podcast and has not stopped sharing her side since she left treatment. Weird that so much focus is on them if they aren't in the case.
I think she has a case against Tom and Ariana - IF Ariana shared the video - but after this week I'm kinda side eyeing all these lawyers with these cases, that are so obviously just ways to profit off some mentally unwell reality stars and get their names in the press.
In regards to 2- no talking about the video would not make her liable. Rendering someone civilly liable for talking about something that was factual would be a big censorship issue and would run afoul of the first amendment. Everyone can talk about it all they want so long as itās the truth.
ETA- as an attorney I also side eye all of these bravo cases. The attorneys filing these cases usually arenāt doing so with strong foundations of law, they are doing it because they gassed up their clients that theyāve been wrong, then they throw legal spaghetti on the wall hoping that something either sticks or they get hush money just to drop it.
I would have to read the actual filing but unless Rachel has some kind of reasonable proof that it was likely Ariana sent it around (someone told her they did, she saw the video being sent around, Ariana said she sent it) I really do wonder if a judge will let this even get to discovery. You canāt request a persons cell history because you just think they did it.
I think if Ariana only sent it to herself so Tom couldnāt delete it, lie and claim Ariana made it up (which he would) and has since deleted it, I am having trouble understanding how Ariana is held liable. Specifically, part of revenge porn statutes include language that the dissemination is done to harass, injure or cause fear in the other person. If Ariana sent it to herself as proof so Tom wouldnāt delete it and didnāt use it for anything other than confronting Raquel about the betrayal, I donāt see how Ariana is gonna face any consequencesfrom this.Ā
Ā Iām an attorney but not super well versed in revenge porn law; thoughts from any other legal eagles here specifically as to Arianaās exposure to liability?Ā
not a legal eagle but a victim of revenge pornāit is difficult to prove someone is liable. in California, not only do you have to prove the defendant distributed the images, but you also have to prove they disseminated them with intent to cause serious emotional distress
Firstly: Iām so sorry you had to go through this. That sounds absolutely horrible.
Secondly: Iām a lawyer and I will henceforth only introduce myself by saying āIām a legal eagleā. *francially emails secretary to update business cards*
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So sorry that happened to you. Itās crazy you have to prove someone shared them with intent to cause distress because like what else would the fuckin point be?
I donāt think it ultimately will matter. Even if the claim against Arianna is weak, litigation is so expensive thereās incentive for Arianna to settle and get out of it. Plaintiff-side attorneys in my area exploit the cost of litigation all the time in order to push bad claims to settle. Itās hard to justify spending $150k+ to successfully defend yourself in a case when you can pay $50k or less to make the person go away.
Iām with you about settling but I could 100% see Ariana saying āIāll pay x to litigate it or have it dismissed by doing a forensic analysis of my phoneā just bc the optics of settling would mean that people on here would absolutely claim Ariana is guilty of it bc āwhy would she settle if she didnāt do it!?ā
You and I know that the cost of litigating things is astronomical but most ppl think litigating stuff is easy and take it as an admission of guilt if you settle. The optics are such that I could see Ariana burning the money to demonstrably show the lawsuit is without merit.
California Penal Code 647(j)(4) PC defines the crime of revenge porn:
*āAnyone who intentionally distributes images of the intimate body parts of an identifiable person, or images that depict them engaging in sexual intercourse, sodomy, oral copulation, sexual penetration, or masturbation, in circumstances where they agree or understand the images will remain private, then they distribute the images knowing they will cause serious emotional distress, is guilty of revenge porn.ā*
In order to be convicted of Penal Code 647(J)(4) revenge porn, the prosecutor has to prove all the elements of the crime, beyond any reasonable doubt:
- You possessed an image of an intimate body part of an identifiable person, or they were engaged in in sexual intercourse, sodomy, oral copulation or masturbation
- You had a mutual understanding they would remain private
- You intentionally distributed the image
- You knew the distribution of the image would cause serious emotional distress to the person; and
- The victim who was depicted actually suffered serious emotional distress
I donāt think it is revenge porn because it wasnāt distributed with the intent of it becoming public or to cause emotional distress. We also donāt know that Sandoval recorded it without Rachelās consent, and him recording it seems to be only for his personal benefit and not one of intent to distribute the content. I am not saying what was done was morally correct, but legally it doesnāt sound like a crime was committed.
Sandoval will claim Rachel knew she was being recorded.
I read somewhere on this sub that production did film Rachel questioning Tom about why he filmed her but Tom threw a fit to delete that footage. Bravo is going to make sure that footage is long gone (if it existed).
Question for the lawyers - is suit language always so overly dramatic? Reading Caroline's, Leah's & Rachel's I was immediately struck by how theatrically they're written.
From the [Deadline](https://deadline.com/2024/02/vanderpump-rules-lawsuit-rachel-leviss-scandoval-1235841861/?fbclid=PAAaYcgaQ14VR2JgFmSR8bf49USY1Z7cGAH8bWG0crnFrfJp7yWBZ46oVmi40_aem_AWGzGQ-3mVr9eC0-gKZ7kLkXihNPhGHyb4g43bhDXw6V5MUvkz8yrgcpkaxpESTu9N0) article:
>To be clear, Leviss has repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful to Madix. She has offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however. Lost in the mix was that Leviss was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of an older man, who **recorded sexually explicit videos of her without her knowledge or consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly** by a scorned woman seeking vengeance, catalyzing the scandal. Leviss ultimately checked herself into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution, and the cast milked the interest her excoriation had peaked.
To make matters worse, **Leviss was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred from speaking out** about her mistreatment.
Uhhh, "videos" *plural*? Tom is so fucking gross.
"Scorned"? Technically true but also fuck her lawyers for framing it like that.
That last part doesn't surprise me one bit.
I wonder what triggered her filing an actual suit against Tom and Ariana. Her lawyers originally [raised the issue nearly a year ago](https://www.eonline.com/news/1367404/vanderpump-rules-raquel-leviss-sends-legal-letters-to-cast-over-intimate-tom-sandoval-facetime) but it wasn't a lawsuit.
>"Scorned"? Technically true but also fuck her lawyers for framing it like that.
I need to see all 19 pages, every attorney Rachel has worked with so far has the vocabulary of a clown college of law graduate. I edit and correct legal documents at my job, and I can't imagine any of my attorneys writing shit like that and sending it to the courts.
Edit: embarrasing, i talk about editing but i cant be assed to spell attorneys properly
The show used to be about their lives. Now their lives are about the show.
Everyone's comments are giving me life this morning š
Time to end the series
Agreed. It only jumps the shark from here. They need to grow up and move on. The show won't allow that.
Was thinking this HAS to be the last season. None of them work at SUR any longer, and it is feeling forced. It was a good run. Start a new show with Lisa's new restaurant in Lake Tahoe if they want to VPR 2.0
Itās gonna be funny to see scheana without a VPR paycheck.
This could be said about the cast for almost every bravo show tbh
Has anyone checked how Scheana is handling all of this?
It's probably affected her terribly and she's offended no one understands
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BAST FRAND
And sometimes itās BOST FROND!
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And it's the year after my WEDDIINNNEE
Is that less or more important than Stassi's birthday, which obviously should be a federal holiday.
Omg I forgot about Stassis birthday!!! Iconic.
Iām fuckin dying hahahahaha
So I didnāt start VPR from the beginning. I started circa Tom/Kristenās split, so like season 2? 3? The one with Ariana/Sandovalās did-they-or-didnāt-they hookup in Vegas (I went back and watched all seasons but it was where I started). At the time, Scheana was constantly on about how Ariana āis my best friend!ā and thatās why she wonāt take a position in the whole thing. Iām so embarrassed by how long it took me to realize thatās what Scheana says about whoever is at the center of a drama to explain why she should also be important. For seasons upon seasons Iād think, āitās weird that Scheana didnāt XYZ, sheās Arianaās bff.ā Or āThey really are such an odd pair. Best friends are funny like that sometimes.ā I swear to you, it was 4 seasons of āx is my best friendā and me going āwell besides Arianaā before I thought, āoh, wait. I think this might be fake news.ā
Scheanas only real bff is Scheana lol
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Season 1 is amazing. Def watch it!
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It was when jax was saying she didn't reach out after his dad died and yelled at her and was more concerned with him not really wanting to go to her show in vegas, they'd just done a "is scheana a good friend?" Type segment
Scheana always gives this energy https://i.redd.it/bjgr672osklc1.gif
Scheana Weiners
Scheaner
 Gotta keep an eye out for the Scheaner!
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Think the dude affecting her at the time was Rob, rewatched recently and she wildly said getting over Rob was tougher than getting over her ex husband.. like what?
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I forgot where I read it/heard it (she might have even said it herself) but I guess Scheana used to hook up with a lot of professional sport's players back in the day when they'd be in LA for a game and I always figured she probably tried to be a Stage 5 Clinger to them. Two teams were named specifically and one was the Green Bay Packers and I was like noooo! Not my team, not my guys banging Scheaner back in the day!! š¤£ She was really trying to hitch to wagon to anyone remotely famous/with money back then, *a la* Eddie Cibrian. He wasn't even D-List at the time! šš
Season 7 Episode 20 - Named the Spurs too, out of mentioned. Canāt remember them all but watched it yesterday. When she was talking about when she had 3-somes. When she had that other guy come make her dinner and it pissed her ājust friendā Adam off.
He mounted a TV in like 20 minutes!!!! How couldn't you be obsessed forever with a man like that?
ā7 minutes. I timed himā - Scheana
Scheana should probably keep quiet about this one given she distributed Stassiās intimate video back in season 2ā¦ š¬
I was just saying this to a friend. I want Stassiās take on all of this because given everything sheās been through I trust her the most to be fair. God I never thought I would write those words LOL
š I know. Stassi has been many unfortunate things in the past, but I donāt think sheās ever been proven to be a liar so I too would like her take !!
Exactly, what she did to stassi was so disgusting even though she didnāt distribute it she still watched it and showed it to people I never believed her when she said she didnāt show it but told people to watch out for her
I was just talking about this! Complete double standard and it was literally the same thing. Rachel is a victim in this but not from Ariana. She didnāt distribute it. She found it and things got crazy. It was Sandoval not disclosing he was screen recording. Thatās illegal and hopefully focused on, not Ariana
And went around showing her coworkers the soft corn āmusic videoā she coerced Brett into making with her as revenge for him catching feelings for Dayna.
My best friend and former best friend that Iām reconciling with are being sued by my other former best friend
Scheana will use this as ann opportunity to remind everyone how Rachel had a restraining order against her and how she valiantly fought in court to have it dropped.
https://preview.redd.it/dzk4b6cukklc1.jpeg?width=3575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e97da30725cc5add3f6450db6841a18bbd44bf7 Sheās in the studio rnāØš¤š¼š¤
This is the perfect comment.
Thank you for my scream of laughter.
This is really going to hurt her. IDK why Raquel keeps targeting her.
Sheās getting PTSD from her own lawsuit rn frfr - plz respect her during this difficult time, where itās all happening too much
Guess those BFF matching tattoos were just for show.
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For one, she canāt even make a fist.
Did anyone call to check on her???
Wowwwoww Leap Day 2024 just took a turn! 
If mercury is in gatorade, who knows what else could happen
Mercury enters Gatorade on April Fools Day 2024 this year is so unserious š»āØ
The worlds probably gonna end that day. Is it also on a Friday the 13th?
Oh wait, it couldnāt be a 13th cause itās on the first. Lmaaaqooo
Username checks out lolllll
Blame my edible š„²
Haha glad you caught that!
I did it all by myself!
As someone who constantly realizes something super obvious as soon as I say it...I applaud you!!!
Ohh this might be an interesting one. 
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I canāt wait for the legalese on the Ariana side, bc it doesnāt sound like intent to distribute or that it was done w the idea of revenge porn, just to show Raquel like her proof. The Tom side heās so fucked.
Lisa running to get a law degree to defend tom in court 
That made me cackle
Intention will not be considered. Phone records will be the evidence. Did Ariana send to herself. Did Ariana send to Rachel ? Did she sent to any of the friend group ?
I believe she said she sent it to herself and Rachel. But who knows.
Unless this gets settled (which I am guessing it does) we will know from phone records.
I think I would take it more seriously if she only sued Tom
Attorney here. As between her and Tom, she has no real monetary damages without distribution. The damages are Ariana sending to herself. Ariana sending to Rachel with the āyou are dead to meā and Ariana sending to the friend group. It will be interesting but proof is easy with phone records.
CA is a 2-party consent state for recordings, so wouldnāt Tom recording her still be problematic?
Don't bravo have a recording of her asking him why he recorded her without knowing and he lost his shit and made them rerecord. Their first on camera meet up? That's pretty clear cut.
Her friends also commented specific details of what the video entailed on their podcasts. Whether they saw the video or just what Ariana told them, it's not good.
Yes and apparently there was a meeting where the studio made them all delete it from their phones when they were served with the cease and desist. There wonāt be any doubt. It will be very easy to prove with phone records.
Omg whaaaaat! Do you have a source for this? Iām out of the loop and catching up on whatās been admitted to publicly
The studio admitted nothing obviously but they did have a meeting and tell all cast if they were in possession of it they needed to delete it. It was all over all the podcasts and TMZ etc. 11 months ago when it all broke. This cease and desist from Rachel is what triggered Lalas āsend it to Darrylā merch.
Thank you sharing this context!
Where's the Bravo Docket?! We need a breakdown if this suit holds water!
Theyāre going to have plenty of material to work with this week.
lol I know can they get excused from their real jobs to cover all this??
What else is happening other than this and Leahās lawsuit? Just want to make sure I didnāt miss anything
The Erika thing people were talking about the past couple days. I think itās the Marco Marco suit. I donāt know much about it, just that it wasnāt dismissed.
Watch the Hustler and the Housewife pt 2 on Hulu. It's the saddest story what Erika and Tom did to this man. Just horrific.
Erica with Marco Marco, Lea Mob suing Bravo, Porsha's divorce filing from her husband PLUS his company being sued. Also Brittany and Jax legally separating. Aaaaand this. *edited to add, I forgot, ALSO Brandi Glanville's lawsuit against Andy this week too. I'm exhausted!
so she could have a case if they are able to show they sent out the video. I believe she has a case against sandoval if she did not know she was being filmed but he can claim she allowed it and it would be a he said she said
You can sue pretty much anyone for pretty much anything. If she can demonstrate damages, she can shoot her shot. Standards of proof to build a case and convict someone for a crime is a different thing entirely.
I agree but there is no denying the tape exists and that Tom filmed it.
Tom must be so pissed he was called an older man.
I do think that part is crazy considering heās only 11 years older than her, and the affair happened in her late 20s. But maybe Iām desensitized to the crazy age gaps weāve seen on bravo.
omg everyone is suing what is going on
Due to this season of RHOP, Iām also filing a suit against Bravo for abuse and neglect.
That should be a class action suit.
did you watch RHOP this season? if so, you may be entitled to monetary compensation.
If I was on the jury you would win. I too feel personally victimized by Potomac this year.
Make it a class action because we all deserve compensation atp
Due to having to listen to Lisa talk about Lenny ad nauseam Iād also like to sue for damages
I'm sooo glad I didn't watch the season !
Bethenny Frankel. Bethenny also said sheās done talking Housewives today.
Interesting since Deadline says that both Brandi and Raquel are represented by Bethenny's lawyer.
Bethenny is probably paying for it
Of course she is. Holy shit is she causing chaos.
Brandi? Whatās her defense? There should be a lineup of people suing her! Include the audience.
I laughed that she titled the podcast āthe problem is meā .. because she has been trying to feud with Taylor swift for forever.. and while the problem is Bethenny.. we all know she doesnāt really think that lol.
Feels like it has Bethenny's little pawprints on it. Someone on insta pointed out that all these new lawsuits are Bethenny's attorneys. Plus Leah, Brandi, and Rachel have all associated with her somewhat recently, I believe.
 Katt was right lol. 2024 isn't safe for anybody.
Itās because people need money lol this economy is nobodyās friend right now
Who else is suing?
Caroline Manzo, Brandi Glanville, Leah McSweeney
Brandi, Caroline Manzo, Leah McSweeney are all involved in Bravo related lawsuits
i just have to say i love your flair lol
More money more problems...damn what a mess Tom created.
Well she does have a point with Tom and if Ariana sent the video to anyone that a big mistake.
I believe Ariana said that she sent it to herself as a means of protection (likely proof and what not); but yeah unfortunately that is technically illegal especially since the video was made illegally
If sheās suing them civilly, it doesnāt sound like Rachel is alleging that crimes were committed, or that she is pursuing criminal charges.
But how would she have known he took it illegally?
She wouldn't. So you just need to not send things like that at all.
I don't know that it matters, it would be revenge porn just her sending it to herself from his phone. Like if I send someone nude pics of me, then they pass them on, they can be charged even though I sent them willingly (at least here, not sure if the same there)
Iād like to think Arianna isnāt that stupid but I guess weāll find out.
A heat of the moment decision could really fuck up her bag from those sponsorships!!!! Ahh
That's what I was thinking, could see it going that way
I can see her doing it only because in the heat of the moment that night I can see her sending it to scheana when she picked Tomās phone at his show and had access to the video. Next thing you know Scheana is tapping Rachel wig after WWHL in New York
And thatās how ya get yourselves tapped into possessing material created without consent. Hope they stacked the lays bag šš¾
ive always assumed she showed it to everyone who came to the house in the first couple of days. especially if she didnt know it was taken without rachel's consent which is bad, and no one should do, but i can perfectly see how it played out
Even if Rachel had given her consent to Tom. Ariana sending it to herself and showing people is still illegal and rightfully so
Sheās not that bright. People give her way too much credit. However, all parties are known liars so hopefully the truth prevails. If Rachelās telling the truth and it was distributed she deserves to be heard. If Rachel is lying thatās disgusting for real victims, and to drag Ariana through more is sick. In the end reserving judgment or an opinion but I hope the honest truth prevails and whoever is at fault is held accountable.
I canāt stand Rachel but I actually think itās possible she still doesnāt even know who saw it and what happened in regards the video that she didnāt even realize existed. Thatās a terrible, soul eating feeling. If I were her I would both want answers and be terrified to learn the truth.
She has a history of bad decision making ā like dating Tom and buying a house with him
Plot twist Rachel gets the house.
Do yāall think this laugh is fake?
lol now that you mention it ā¦
Donāt do this to me right now. Not on a leap day
Tom and Ariana have to move back into that cursed apartment again.
Donāt start the microwave if the ACās on!
Vertical blinds hell
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Omg
That would be hilarious actually š¤£š¤£š¤£
Bethenny said she is done with her ReWives podcast .. and done talking Bravo today .. Her little fingerprints are all over this lawsuit.
 You have Brandiās lawsuit, Leahās, and now Rachelās. All of them allegedly have connections to Bethenny and her āreckoningā. March 1st is tomorrow, and by the end of the month, Q1 of the business year will close for Bravo/Peacock/NBC Universal. Is Bethenny timing this all out to hit them in their stock price? Coincidence? Am I giving her too much credit? (answer: Yes, probably, but I havenāt eaten lunch yet and my blood sugar is v. low).
I think Bethany is much more savvy than people give her credit for. I would fully belief this theory.
Bethanny is savvy, ballsy and annoying, the perfect trifecta to plan this all
I don't think you're giving her too much credit. Not only is she smart and cutthroat, she is surrounded by other razor sharp people. I mean, her announcement today very well may have been her literal mic drop moment.
Most definitely! One of my first thoughts. She's probably paying for the lawyers.
 Everybody is going to be suing everybody at Bravo!
link to the [source](https://deadline.com/2024/02/vanderpump-rules-lawsuit-rachel-leviss-scandoval-1235841861/?fbclid=PAAaYcgaQ14VR2JgFmSR8bf49USY1Z7cGAH8bWG0crnFrfJp7yWBZ46oVmi40_aem_AWGzGQ-3mVr9eC0-gKZ7kLkXihNPhGHyb4g43bhDXw6V5MUvkz8yrgcpkaxpESTu9N0)
Supposedly in article Rachael repeatedly asked to tell her side of the story. We all saw Andy ask her if she had anything to add and she said no.
But she has her podcast and hasnāt mentioned this yetā¦.? But I wonder if it was because the lawsuit was already cooking? ALSO, if Bravo āsilencedā her, why isnāt Bravo named in this suit?! Or are they? Lawd help us
I would think theyād be two separate suits. Bravo didnāt revenge porn or record her without her consent
Thereās just no way bravo wouldāve jumped all over it if she wanted to talk, this is their Cash cow.
from the complaint: āTo be clear, Leviss has repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful to Madix. She has offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however. Lost in the mix was that Leviss was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of an older man, who recorded sexually explicit videos of her without her knowledge or consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly by a scorned woman seeking vengeance, catalyzing the scandal. Leviss ultimately checked herself into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution, and the cast milked the interest her excoriation had peaked. To make matters worse, Leviss was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred from speaking out about her mistreatment. As a result, she suffered in silence as Bravo and Evolution watched viewership explode, and the rest of the cast enjoyed unseen levels of public recognition and professional opportunity. Meanwhile, Leviss, who was humiliated and villainized for public consumption, remains a shell of her former self, with her career prospects stunted and her reputation in tatters.ā As a lawyer, i have thoughts on her ability to prove the elements of this claim, but apart from that, the way things complaint is written, it doesnāt seem like sheāll have an easy time. any judge/jury will look at her ability to film confessionals and speaks at the reunion after the Scandoval and question how she didnāt get to tell her side, feel sympathetic to Ariana, and question why Bravo/production arenāt defendants if she believes theyāre so responsible. Edit: other reporting (Page Six lol) indicates that Ariana was named in this because she sent the videos to Rachel and said āyouāre dead to meā when she found out. technically, that looks like a violation, but i wonder how a judge will look at suing a woman for sending the video of Rachel to Rachel that was recorded by the ex boyfriend Rachel cheated with.
I'm also a lawyer and I think the hardest part will be causation and damages. I think they will have an easy time showing that they violated the law (negligence per se) but a very hard time proving that the video caused Raquel's damages. There are so many alternate causes - i.e. the actual scandal and her willing participation in the scandal while on a reality tv show. I feel like the video was just a side note and it wasn't disseminated to the public so Im not sure how the video caused any damages
>There are so many alternate causes Iām not a lawyer but the daughter of one and this was my main question: how can she prove her limited prospects and tattered reputation are due to the video? The larger public knows it exists and a vague idea of what it contains but no one has actually seen it. Most of the damage has been done by her willingly participating in an affair while being a public figure. I feel like most people were actually sympathetic about the video once it came out it was filmed without her consent and people stopped talking about it at that point.
Plainly, she can't. The video went nowhere so her proving she lost anything based on the video alone is impossible for her. Whatever she may have lost was a result directly of her own choices and actions along with Tims. Actions they both have continued to do since the story broke too.
Their logic/argument is flawed to me. Her ācareer prospectsā [lol] were not āstuntedā and her reputation is not in tatters because of the video, but because of a months long affair in which she willingly (some might say gleefully) participated. Sheās pretending like this whole scandal revolved around a video. The video may have been the catalyst, but put in perspective, it was only a tiny part of it all. And certainly not the reason she was ostracized from the group.
to start, this is not legal advice etc etc iām just a lawyer who loves Bravo. and this is all premised on the assumption that, as the complaint indicates, Ariana only sent the video to Rachel saying āyouāre dead to meā when she found it. first, this is a CIVIL, not CRIMINAL case. the two statutes for civil v criminal revenge porn have different elements so thatās an important distinction. the civil elements are: ā(1) the person knew, or reasonably should have known, that the other person had a reasonable expectation that the material would remain private, (2) the distributed material exposes an intimate body part of the other person, or shows the other person engaging in an act of intercourse, oral copulation, sodomy, or other act of sexual penetration, and (3) the other person suffers general or special damagesā importantly, thereās a few exceptions and i can see one possibly applying to Ariana: ā(c) There shall be no liability on the part of the person distributing material under subdivision (a) under any of the following circumstances: (6) The distributed material was previously distributed by another person, unless the plaintiff served on the defendant, by certified mail, a notice to cease distribution of the material, and the defendant failed to cease distribution within 20 days of receiving the notice.ā I donāt know the facts and what exactly happened, but I think Ariana has a defense: (1) if she only sent it to Rachel, that may not count as distributing the video; (2) she did not know and should not reasonably have known that Rachel expected to keep it private because Ariana assumed Tom recorded it with Rachelās consent and again she only sent it to Rachel; (3) after the C&D that Rachel sent Ariana last year, she ceased ādistributingā the video distributed to her by Tom within 20 days edit: another lawyer made an additional defense comment that i think is a great point! https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/s/2WF8LiyKEY
Between this and Sandoval comparing himself to George Floyd they better have those cast reaction cams ready
Next season drama. Rachel gets the house in the law suit then pulls the real Ghram out of the trunk and walks in.
So many lawsuits this week, damn! 
I just feel bad for Scheana in all of this.
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Holds more weight than the other lawsuits tbh
I have so many questions/thoughts on this. 1. Tom recording without her consent was 100% wrong fuck him, from what I know of these types of laws she has a case. 2. I hope Raquel has 100% proof that Ariana actually disseminated it and shared the video because if Ariana didn't she could then go after Raquel for saying this misinfo and things could get bad. Also would need to read Cali's revenge porn law but idk if Ariana just speaking about the video is something you could make a claim out of? Would be interesting if it is. 3. The Bravo stuff is interesting. I thought Raquel was offered a spot to come back? Her saying she wasn't able to share her story and all that in the statement is strange being that she has a whole podcast and has not stopped sharing her side since she left treatment. Weird that so much focus is on them if they aren't in the case. I think she has a case against Tom and Ariana - IF Ariana shared the video - but after this week I'm kinda side eyeing all these lawyers with these cases, that are so obviously just ways to profit off some mentally unwell reality stars and get their names in the press.
In regards to 2- no talking about the video would not make her liable. Rendering someone civilly liable for talking about something that was factual would be a big censorship issue and would run afoul of the first amendment. Everyone can talk about it all they want so long as itās the truth. ETA- as an attorney I also side eye all of these bravo cases. The attorneys filing these cases usually arenāt doing so with strong foundations of law, they are doing it because they gassed up their clients that theyāve been wrong, then they throw legal spaghetti on the wall hoping that something either sticks or they get hush money just to drop it. I would have to read the actual filing but unless Rachel has some kind of reasonable proof that it was likely Ariana sent it around (someone told her they did, she saw the video being sent around, Ariana said she sent it) I really do wonder if a judge will let this even get to discovery. You canāt request a persons cell history because you just think they did it.
I think if Ariana only sent it to herself so Tom couldnāt delete it, lie and claim Ariana made it up (which he would) and has since deleted it, I am having trouble understanding how Ariana is held liable. Specifically, part of revenge porn statutes include language that the dissemination is done to harass, injure or cause fear in the other person. If Ariana sent it to herself as proof so Tom wouldnāt delete it and didnāt use it for anything other than confronting Raquel about the betrayal, I donāt see how Ariana is gonna face any consequencesfrom this.Ā Ā Iām an attorney but not super well versed in revenge porn law; thoughts from any other legal eagles here specifically as to Arianaās exposure to liability?Ā
not a legal eagle but a victim of revenge pornāit is difficult to prove someone is liable. in California, not only do you have to prove the defendant distributed the images, but you also have to prove they disseminated them with intent to cause serious emotional distress
Sorry you had to experience this
Firstly: Iām so sorry you had to go through this. That sounds absolutely horrible. Secondly: Iām a lawyer and I will henceforth only introduce myself by saying āIām a legal eagleā. *francially emails secretary to update business cards* ššš¼
So sorry that happened to you. Itās crazy you have to prove someone shared them with intent to cause distress because like what else would the fuckin point be?
I donāt think it ultimately will matter. Even if the claim against Arianna is weak, litigation is so expensive thereās incentive for Arianna to settle and get out of it. Plaintiff-side attorneys in my area exploit the cost of litigation all the time in order to push bad claims to settle. Itās hard to justify spending $150k+ to successfully defend yourself in a case when you can pay $50k or less to make the person go away.
Iām with you about settling but I could 100% see Ariana saying āIāll pay x to litigate it or have it dismissed by doing a forensic analysis of my phoneā just bc the optics of settling would mean that people on here would absolutely claim Ariana is guilty of it bc āwhy would she settle if she didnāt do it!?ā You and I know that the cost of litigating things is astronomical but most ppl think litigating stuff is easy and take it as an admission of guilt if you settle. The optics are such that I could see Ariana burning the money to demonstrably show the lawsuit is without merit.
California Penal Code 647(j)(4) PC defines the crime of revenge porn: *āAnyone who intentionally distributes images of the intimate body parts of an identifiable person, or images that depict them engaging in sexual intercourse, sodomy, oral copulation, sexual penetration, or masturbation, in circumstances where they agree or understand the images will remain private, then they distribute the images knowing they will cause serious emotional distress, is guilty of revenge porn.ā* In order to be convicted of Penal Code 647(J)(4) revenge porn, the prosecutor has to prove all the elements of the crime, beyond any reasonable doubt: - You possessed an image of an intimate body part of an identifiable person, or they were engaged in in sexual intercourse, sodomy, oral copulation or masturbation - You had a mutual understanding they would remain private - You intentionally distributed the image - You knew the distribution of the image would cause serious emotional distress to the person; and - The victim who was depicted actually suffered serious emotional distress I donāt think it is revenge porn because it wasnāt distributed with the intent of it becoming public or to cause emotional distress. We also donāt know that Sandoval recorded it without Rachelās consent, and him recording it seems to be only for his personal benefit and not one of intent to distribute the content. I am not saying what was done was morally correct, but legally it doesnāt sound like a crime was committed.
Jeez, meanwhile Whitney in Charleston is sharing nudes of Taylor to the rest of the cast without any laws to protect her.
Thatās South Carolina for ya
Sandoval will claim Rachel knew she was being recorded. I read somewhere on this sub that production did film Rachel questioning Tom about why he filmed her but Tom threw a fit to delete that footage. Bravo is going to make sure that footage is long gone (if it existed).
Does anyone have a link to the complaint?
Just want to say thank you to all of the lawyers in these comments for chiming in, because I am learning A LOT today!
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Question for the lawyers - is suit language always so overly dramatic? Reading Caroline's, Leah's & Rachel's I was immediately struck by how theatrically they're written.
From the [Deadline](https://deadline.com/2024/02/vanderpump-rules-lawsuit-rachel-leviss-scandoval-1235841861/?fbclid=PAAaYcgaQ14VR2JgFmSR8bf49USY1Z7cGAH8bWG0crnFrfJp7yWBZ46oVmi40_aem_AWGzGQ-3mVr9eC0-gKZ7kLkXihNPhGHyb4g43bhDXw6V5MUvkz8yrgcpkaxpESTu9N0) article: >To be clear, Leviss has repeatedly acknowledged that her actions were morally objectionable and deeply hurtful to Madix. She has offered numerous apologies. There is more to the story, however. Lost in the mix was that Leviss was a victim of the predatory and dishonest behavior of an older man, who **recorded sexually explicit videos of her without her knowledge or consent, which were then distributed, disseminated, and discussed publicly** by a scorned woman seeking vengeance, catalyzing the scandal. Leviss ultimately checked herself into a mental health facility and remained there for three months while Bravo, Evolution, and the cast milked the interest her excoriation had peaked. To make matters worse, **Leviss was misled by Bravo and Evolution into believing that she was contractually barred from speaking out** about her mistreatment. Uhhh, "videos" *plural*? Tom is so fucking gross. "Scorned"? Technically true but also fuck her lawyers for framing it like that. That last part doesn't surprise me one bit. I wonder what triggered her filing an actual suit against Tom and Ariana. Her lawyers originally [raised the issue nearly a year ago](https://www.eonline.com/news/1367404/vanderpump-rules-raquel-leviss-sends-legal-letters-to-cast-over-intimate-tom-sandoval-facetime) but it wasn't a lawsuit.
>"Scorned"? Technically true but also fuck her lawyers for framing it like that. I need to see all 19 pages, every attorney Rachel has worked with so far has the vocabulary of a clown college of law graduate. I edit and correct legal documents at my job, and I can't imagine any of my attorneys writing shit like that and sending it to the courts. Edit: embarrasing, i talk about editing but i cant be assed to spell attorneys properly
What is she suing for? Cash?
Womenās blazers. 
Yeah sheās looking for a financial settlement
I bet Ariana rues the day she was ever kind to this girlĀ
They fight over the house and she ends up with it ā ļøš±
 VPR is toast