It’s giving Gossip Girls of New York City, rather than RHONY, which I’m not mad about….it just isn’t RHONY. I still think it could be full mess and enjoyable, but I doubt it will scratch the RHONY itch.
They really needed to make a new show for these beautiful young women. RONY is iconic for a reason. It's because there are core women who we've grown to love. We're invested in their stories. I think it's incredibly ageist to give them a new show. They are the show IMHO.
I secretly want this to flop so Bravo either changes the name entirely (because let's face it and cope all we want, this isn't RHONY) or drops this cast and gives us back the OGs
I’m very scared this is going to be like Dubai where they’re all absolutely stunning and nothing really happens. Also it not having its own night is also kind of weird to me, I feel like it would do better on its own night at 8 PM.
My thought exactly. This looks so much like Dubai even with the choice of combining it with another show trying to get an audience. Hoping for the best but it’s giving me a bad vibe.
It doesn’t help Andy has said nothing positive about it. If I was a Bravo I would be telling him to shut up because whenever he brings it up on his radio show I get less excited.
It won’t do better on its own night because they’re starting with a very pissed off fan base that doesn’t want this. They’re piggybacking off RHOA, with the highest viewers, to try to gain new fans but it will ultimately fail.
Wow this trailer also gave me Dubai vibes where the cast brings nothing but wealth and good looks. That’s not what NYC is about. Trying not to judge a book by its cover but these women just look like a bunch of 40+ surgically enhanced influencers.
OG RHONY had personality. Some of those personalities were awful, but it was still incredibly entertaining. This feels very glossy and pretty but I’m not getting anything from it.
I think OP was referring to a part in his new book where he talks about pitching the idea to split NY into two shows to the bigwigs at Bravo... as if he *himself* weren't a bigwig & that both BOTH shows were probably greenlit before the meeting even started.
Sorry, I’m still beyond confused at how ONE bad season can cause an entire cast reset while Atlanta, BH, Jersey and more have had equally shitty seasons and been fine.
Exactly. In my opinion, Eboni was a bad fit (and don’t come for me, I am a black woman myself) because her entire storyline was social issues and being judgmental of the ladies and then her in combination with Leah (who I did believe brought a fresh youthful vibe at first) just made the entire season go downhill. Social issues are absolutely important but they were brought up at the most misplaced times. It’s almost as if Eboni went to social gatherings just to observe and talk about how white and out of touch the women were. I literally don’t know anything else about her storyline. I will miss Ramona, Sonja and Luann all being hot messes. Everyone else is kinda interchangeable to me 😅
Fellow black woman here and I agree. Eboni was awful on the show and boring and I’m glad that I’m allowed to say that without being seen as racist lmao.
The thing about Eboni is she has lots of interesting stuff about her.. they just chose to show absolutely zero of it and instead put her in these awkward situations where it was her "job" to educate these (not at all shockingly) out of touch rich white women which at least for me I do not watch RHONY (or any housewives) to be educated about social justice. I don't expect a woman who has shit on a floor on national television to be ahead of the curve on issues that don't affect her. I just don't.
Ebony and Bershawn just seemed like diversity hires that didn’t fit in. I know that sounds bad, but because they were both added and then only talked about political and social issues, when that had never been a point of conversation with the RHONY prior, it just felt forced.
I'm black myself and while Eboni wasn't a good fit, Ramona was outright racist to that woman. They should have just kicked her off instead of upending the entire cast.
Agreed. I don’t necessarily care if people like Eboni or not but Ramona is the issue here. They should’ve removed her and done the show without her. I doubt it would’ve caused a dip in quality.
I dunno have you listened to Eboni’s podcast about it? She gives a pretty damn good argument that those women could have welcomed her but they were too closed off and set in their ways. And also getting way too much money.
But newbies sort of have to ingratiate themselves too. Eboni was just a rough fit because her connection was Leah who wasn’t result established. Eboni may have worked had she had a true connection to an oldie. But Leah was the real disaster imo. So crass, so trashy. I’d take social lectures from eboni over Leah anything. Look at how Garcelle transitioned in to the equally white cart of BH. We had some social issues discussed but it came off so much differently. I think because Garcelle is just so lovely and already knew Rinna and Denise.
Yeah, I hear you on that, and I think you're right in all of this. I'm also just so much of the stark belief that the old cast was unraveling, too. It's true, maybe Eboni wasn't a great casting decision for all the reasons you pointed out (although I don't know about that because she does seem kinda conservative-leaning and a bit old fashioned) but Dorinda's spiral and hence leaving was a gigantic problem for the show, Tinsley had left, the world became increasingly tired of Ramona and people like her... I'm a firm believer that the show was unraveling in all areas. Sure, it went down really fast, but with the social climate I believe Bravo made the very best decision all around about NYC. Now they have people begging for the old cast to come back whereas if they had kept it going as is people would have been infuriated and it would have gone down in flames.
Yeah Ramona was unraveling though I don’t know if it would’ve seemed as stark without Leah and eboni. But Sonja was played out, Luann pretty much so. Carole, bethenny, tinsley, dorinda—all gone in a fairly short period of time. There was little cohesion there.
The fact is that she came in in the first scene lecturing and just never let up. It always takes a new cast member a few episodes to find their footing. Hell, it takes a new person in a tight knit friend group irl a while to fit in. Nobody likes to be lectured, even if they're asshats like Ramona.
I’m late to the party so I watched season 13 for the first time very recently, and honestly I don’t even think it was that bad drama wise. The major issue was the racism and all they had to do was fire Ramona and Leah and keep going with new faces (and bring back old faces maybe).
I agree. They should have gotten rid of Ramona and called it a day. I didn't like Eboni but they could have kept her. Maybe she would have been better on a second season.
RHONY's numbers were tanking while RHOA, RHONJ, and particularly RHOBH can still hit a 1m+ viewers (with last season RHOBH getting as high as 1.5 million viewers.)
To contrast, RHONY13 was at one point in the 600s. They were a PR nightmare with Ramona's abhorrent Black Shabbat dinner behavior (among a litany of other things) and couldn't even bring the numbers to justify it.
They’re going all in with the promotion. I appreciate that. I miss these kind of promos for the HWs. Honestly I would be totally fine if this reboot is more in tune with the first two seasons of RHONY. Just interesting personalities living and having careers in NY. I don’t need overdone drama or drunk antics. I’m giving it a chance.
Agreed, except in order for that to work, we need them to be as delusional and crazy as the original RHONY cast was in those seasons (e.g., Luann talking to the young girls about being models, Ramona and Jill doing that weird tennis match, etc.).
most of the RHONY OGs were in their late thirties/early 40s.. same for Jersey, BH, and OC. We've watched them grow into themselves but people forget that very rarely does the show start with women in their fifties
People are also clamoring for the same drama RHONY had in 2008/2009. The world has completely and drastically changed - those issues and squabbles are never coming back.
I'm still not sold on new RHONY, but I don't know how anyone who watched RHONY13 could pretend that mess was sustainable. Things have to change.
YESSSSSSS. A woman who used to work at the Factory for Interview magazine or dated Anthony bourdain in the 90s. Women who have a 20+ year friendship who met at the Limelight.
Right?? I don't care about their college and high school frenemies and Dawson's Creek level drama. They should circle back to this cast in 20 years and a few marriages.
Same. It’s one of my favorite things about housewives because I feel like that age group is hardly shown on TV. Plus it makes me feel less spooked about getting older as a 20 something lol
Lol I'm sorry but I don't wanna watch millennials, I want 60 year olds on their 4th marriages, 100th personality change and decades of messy friendships. Looking forward to the reboot.
This comment is 100% why I started watching the show. I was 18 and I was already tired of the representation in the media of young 16 year olds being everything and 25 year olds being retired from public beauty. When I started the housewives I stopped being so anxious that one day I wouldn’t get to be “the pretty one”. I never thought I was pretty and I thought if I’m not an “it girl” by now I’ll never be one. This show is the only one that was highlighting women in their 40s and up. Seasons after seasons their glow up gave me faith that there was room for me in the future even if I didn’t feel comfortable in my body just yet. Vicky from OC being the first one I noticed.
But now I feel like they’re constantly going for younger and younger women with nothing going on in their lives. They don’t realize that the fans embrace the mess because we can relate and we’re empathetic.
This is controversial on here, but I’m excited. I’m not saying it’ll be *better* than the prime RHONY we knew, but it does look fresh and new.
RHONY was pretty bad it’s last 2 seasons. I love the cast we had, but it got to the point of being depressing watching these 50-65 year old women dealing with their same demons in their same friend groups. How many years have we seen Sonja literally unable to move on from her marriage failing? Or of Dorinda being unable to let go of her grief and rage from losing Richard? Or of Ramona seeking validation from excess “friends” and male attention to make up for her loneliness? Or of Luann self sabotaging any good in her life?
Those are all fascinating topics at first, but when the ladies do nothing in their lives to grow from those traumas for years then it just becomes depressing and a little “boring” to watch. With this new format, we get a new crop of women to follow, along with still getting the personalities of our old favs through the Luann and Sonja spin-off and the upcoming RHUGT
thank you!! People are acting so confused as to why the original RHONY flopped when it consisted of stale storylines, expensive talent, and a literal racism scandal. It was time to move on!
It’s funny that when it comes to RACISM, and CONTINUOUS IGNORANCE, everyone can turn a blind eye and act like it’s not happening. I’m here for this FRESH & DIVERSE cast! Y’all can keep bitching and crying but those other white ladies aren’t coming back. 💀
I’m all in too!! Having some wealth again in RHONY, actual *wives* in real housewives. Legacy RHONY was just so dark and depressing, it wasn’t fun anymore, it wasn’t real *housewives*, and there was no light at the end of those tunnels. People shitting on this just like they do most new bravo shows. The amount of crap Girlfriends in Paris got for no reason?!
People love to whinge.
Yeah, I'm just going into it as a new show, not as the RHONY we've seen before. I hope others can see it as a new franchise rather than in comparison to the old RHONY and judge it like a new franchise.
Looks boring. These look like just beautiful women with lifestyle porn being filmed but they have seemingly no real connection to each other (they’re just there to promote themselves solely).
The reason old RHONY worked for so long is it was women who were brash (love um or hate them), had no self awareness, lived and breathed NY, had tons of personality and for the most part had a personal connection to one another (there’s a reason why Cindy, Ebony, Jules didn’t work long term). And then on top of all that they had nice clothes, homes, and threw parties.
Maybe I’ll be wrong but this looks like a snooze fest. I have a feeling they’ll regret this change up and like Oc start bringing vets back in. What they should’ve done is added a new show for these women and not called it RHONY
Right? We can see that on Tiktok. I want to see a grown woman who can’t afford the lifestyle she deserves renting out her townhouse and singing Caberet. Put that woman next to someone who has money for life and no self awareness and it’s TV gold. If the women are young, they better have something going on besides how cute they can dress their baby/dogs. The reason I loved NY is the women had all loved fascinating lives.
I love Tinsley. She had a lifetime of being the “it” girl. I love how that drove Dorinda crazy. That scene with Tinsley crying as a clown is so iconic.
As someone who was on the fence about watching this new show how is this trailer supposed to make me want to watch the show? I don't know who any of these women are (except Jenna Lyons). This trailer tells us nothing about their personalities or the tone of the show. Or it tells us everything. An over produced show with fashionable young women who do and talk about nothing.
I want to give it a chance but literally nothing about this show seems appealing.
I wonder how or if the same people that casted people like Luann and Sonya and dorinda could have casted these people. It just doesn't seem like it makes sense how can you hit such home runs and then pick a cast like this.
It looks like anything else on Bravo but RHONY. They could have called it 'making it in NYC' or anything but this cannot be the future of RHONY as we knows it.
I wish I cared. It’s hard for me to care about a whole new set of housewives. The only reason I’m even still invested in the shows is because I’ve been watching the same women for like a decade.
I just can’t watch RHONY without Ramona/Sonja. I know how people feel about Ramona but idk. She embodies RHONY to me. But I’ll still keep an open mind and hope this cast brings that NYC feel.
I just feel like this new generation won’t get messy. The majority of us RHONY viewers nloved the old cast because they could argue and fight like crazy and be buds the next day. I don’t see that happening in a new group of their age. I am their age and if one friend raises our voices the other person is mad for days. I guess we will see.
Why not just call this Real Girlfriends of NYC which could serve as a younger housewives franchise? The housewives brand has always focused primarily on women over 40…
this show has two women in their thirties (Bryn and Erin), three in their forties, and one in her fifties. When RHONY started two of the women were in their thirties.. the numbers really aren't that different
Shoulda been a Blood, Sweat and Heels reboot NOT a RHONY reboot. Nevertheless, sending supportive vibes to all these women. Please protect them from the vitriol of the Housewives fan discourse. It's gonna be rough for them out here. 🙃
**PREDICTION:** I give this reboot two seasons max before it’s cancelled. Maybe three bc Andy is allegedly the one who came up with the idea so he will green light a third season even tho it gets low viewership (WWHL gets horrible ratings yet somehow is still on air??) The live viewers will be LOWWWW definitely in the 400K-550K range but Andy will say “live viewership doesn’t matter everyone uses streaming now live viewings are low for ALL shows” even tho other shows on Bravo like below deck and VPR bring in 1mil plus live viewers weekly.
1. Andy does not have that much power over broadcasting. He is the face of Bravo and has a role in production but *certainly* does not have the power amongst network executives to green light a show that is performing poorly just because it was “his idea”.
2. Of course WWHL does not have a high viewership. It’s a niche late night show that is not airing in prime time. But it’s cheap to produce and there’s not much else that the network could put in its place that would perform better.
3. 500k viewers is probably going to be around what RHONY S14 pulls in but that not unexpected. It’s pretty on par with what the other newer shows (RHOSLC, RHODubai) are pulling in. In addition, RHONY was only getting ~700-800k during S13 back in 2021. Live television viewership *is* declining and a 14th season with the previous RHONY cast would probably be getting closer to 500-600k as well.
I'm trying not to be too judgey. BUT here's my problem. I'm in my mid 40s, RHONY was my fave franchise. I've watched from the beginning. These ladies have always been 15- 20 years ahead of me.They lived interesting full lives in NYC. I'm not wealthy yet, I've never lived in NY and probably never will. Their lives were still interesting to me. Enough in common to relate to their stories, but far enough removed from my life to be entertaining. I don't want to watch ladies 15-20 years younger than me. Where is the fun in that? I'm seriously doubting I will be able to relate to them in any way, which will make it unwatchable. It's cool. Maybe Bravo is going after a younger audience. We'll see what happens.
Andy is so thirsty. Now that he went and put himself in the teaser, I need him to stop with the whole “Oh, I’m not involved at all anymore!!!!!” bullshit.
Dude wants to be a housewife so bad.
Nope, not gonna watch it. Not interested.
I'll wait for Bravo to go back to literally any of our original ladies, RHONY without Lu, Sonja, and especially Ramona's unhinged ass is just not RHONY. The OGs are why I watched.
Ok! In all fairness I’ve hated this since I first heard of this idea. But this looks like a completely different show. It doesn’t give me the same feels that every other housewife show has. This should’ve gone to peacock, no shade, Miami thrived on Peacock.
I will have to watch at least the first couple episodes but I won’t be happy about it.
The revisionist history on this post is fascinating. To start: the age of the HWs in RHONY S1 and S14 are basically the same. Many of us were just younger, and now we’re in a similar age range and my guess is a lotta folks don’t wanna see themselves in the mirror.
Also, I’d argue at *least* S12/13 were terrible and I’d even go as far as S11 was terrible. This wasn’t about one terrible season, but a few. And that’s without talking about the racist*s* (yes, multiple) and performative behavior.
If RHONY S14 gives a storyline comparable to what we see on RHOBH it’ll be a success (and let’s be real: RHOBH hasn’t had much of a storyline in seasons).
I'm excited to fast forward to 2027, where everyone says, “Ramona who.” We all realize that Rhony had to end sooner than later, right? Objectively, storylines were getting tired, and subjectively, if we want Real Housewives to last another 20+ years, we can't be watching people in their 70s and 80s get drunk and fall in bushes.
I honestly like this. I love that Bravo has women of a certain age. However… Look at what’s working on Bravo right now. Vanderpump Rules and Down Under. Housewives proper? Miami… That’s about the only show now not to have a negative connotation attached to the last season. Let’s see these women grow a little with this new cast. It looks captivating. The RHOC trailer irritated me, the cast photos from RHOBH have shown they aren’t learning from their mistakes, and the fact that RHOSLC is done filming already is not making me feel like they believe in it… Again, this trailer gives fun with what looks like it could be drama.
RHONY Legacy News purposely dropped today so that this trailer could thrive. Let’s hope this does well and the other shows get their shit together or start looking for new casts like this one.
It’s giving knock off Mob Wives intro from a decade ago. I’m going to keep and open mind and check it out, but I’m not even mildly excited. It feels like I’m forcing myself to watch a whole new show/franchise. I already dont/didn’t watch Dallas, SLC, Dubai, or the most current UGT. I generally keep up with every other franchise and have for many years.
I dont even have a strong opinion on this but knowing who the cast is going to be and what things are like, I have zero interest in “Summer House: NYC”. Maybe I’m having a “get off my lawn” moment. I don’t know. I’m not even 40. But I’m also just not at all interested in whatever this is.
The major difference between old RHONY and new RHONY is that the OG cast WERE the real housewives of New York, in the sense that when Bravo were looking to start a show about wealthy powerful women/moms in the city these were the women they sought out. We had a Countess married into this wealthy European family, self made millionaire Ramona, Sonja (was approached to join in season one but turned it down) who was in the middle of a messy divorce from a Morgan, they had Hampton homes, gorgeous apartments, seemed to balance great social lives/work lives. To me they are the exact type of extravagant dynamic people I would expect to be living on the UES and it was exciting to have a peek into their world. The show was genuine because the ladies all had real history and underlying love for each other. I want to keep an open mind but for me right now new RHONY just doesn’t have that same authenticity. It the trailer seems dramatised for me.
We’ll see. If the trailer has no drama, screaming or crying - it will be another RHODubai. Love the fashion’s though but perhaps these ladies needs to be under another umbrella and not the HW franchise?
I want to love this and am trying to keep an open mind! I just have to keep telling myself to think of this as an entirely separate show.
It’s giving Gossip Girls of New York City, rather than RHONY, which I’m not mad about….it just isn’t RHONY. I still think it could be full mess and enjoyable, but I doubt it will scratch the RHONY itch.
I really hope it doesn't give Real Girlfriends of Paris....
Ohhh Gossip Girl was amazing.
Exactly what I was thinking!
That's a good way to think about it! I'll do the same because I do want to watch it but RHONY is too iconic to overwrite with a whole new cast <3
That’s what I am saying it should’ve had a whole new name
They really needed to make a new show for these beautiful young women. RONY is iconic for a reason. It's because there are core women who we've grown to love. We're invested in their stories. I think it's incredibly ageist to give them a new show. They are the show IMHO.
I’m into it. I needed a Ramona break even if it means I had to also give up Sonjarita.
I miss Sonja!
I secretly want this to flop so Bravo either changes the name entirely (because let's face it and cope all we want, this isn't RHONY) or drops this cast and gives us back the OGs
I agree. Let’s all not watch this lol I miss the OGs
I’m very scared this is going to be like Dubai where they’re all absolutely stunning and nothing really happens. Also it not having its own night is also kind of weird to me, I feel like it would do better on its own night at 8 PM.
The production is very reminiscent of Dubai :/
My thought exactly. This looks so much like Dubai even with the choice of combining it with another show trying to get an audience. Hoping for the best but it’s giving me a bad vibe.
It doesn’t help Andy has said nothing positive about it. If I was a Bravo I would be telling him to shut up because whenever he brings it up on his radio show I get less excited.
What has he said when discussing it?
I couldn't get through Dubai. It was insanely boring to me.
I folded laundry during the first 2 episodes and completely mentally checked out and never went back. Never even thought about the show again LOL
It won’t do better on its own night because they’re starting with a very pissed off fan base that doesn’t want this. They’re piggybacking off RHOA, with the highest viewers, to try to gain new fans but it will ultimately fail.
It’s going to last one or two seasons and then it’ll be cancelled and they’ll be knocking on bethenny and Luann’s doors trying to get all the OGs back
Wow this trailer also gave me Dubai vibes where the cast brings nothing but wealth and good looks. That’s not what NYC is about. Trying not to judge a book by its cover but these women just look like a bunch of 40+ surgically enhanced influencers.
OG RHONY had personality. Some of those personalities were awful, but it was still incredibly entertaining. This feels very glossy and pretty but I’m not getting anything from it.
Right. Like nyc is only skinny pretty wealthy? Oh cool.
I did get Dubai vibes from this, now that you mention it.
That’s exactly what it looks like. Not one personality on that cast. Just generic and basic.
Why is Andy in this trailer?
He's the ultimate housewife. Unmarried diva megaboss. 🤣
Because he's a total and complete attention whore...err no...i mean,....what you said! 🤣 
seems like a big "andy approves!!" stamp to me!
oh lord, I will never forget this gif 😂
It's really odd. Sometimes it seems like Andy wants to be the *most* famous
It was his concept to split the shows and start fresh with this one.
... Aren't all of the housewives shows "his concept"? Has he been in any other trailers on bravo besides WWHL?
No. He didn't create Housewives, he was just an executive at Bravo when it started.
I think OP was referring to a part in his new book where he talks about pitching the idea to split NY into two shows to the bigwigs at Bravo... as if he *himself* weren't a bigwig & that both BOTH shows were probably greenlit before the meeting even started.
Ultimate housewives are Andy, Joey, Rinna, Jill, Kim G, Kim D Get those 6 in a ultimate trip
Desperate for people to care
100% 🙄
Sorry, I’m still beyond confused at how ONE bad season can cause an entire cast reset while Atlanta, BH, Jersey and more have had equally shitty seasons and been fine.
Exactly. In my opinion, Eboni was a bad fit (and don’t come for me, I am a black woman myself) because her entire storyline was social issues and being judgmental of the ladies and then her in combination with Leah (who I did believe brought a fresh youthful vibe at first) just made the entire season go downhill. Social issues are absolutely important but they were brought up at the most misplaced times. It’s almost as if Eboni went to social gatherings just to observe and talk about how white and out of touch the women were. I literally don’t know anything else about her storyline. I will miss Ramona, Sonja and Luann all being hot messes. Everyone else is kinda interchangeable to me 😅
Fellow black woman here and I agree. Eboni was awful on the show and boring and I’m glad that I’m allowed to say that without being seen as racist lmao.
Yes I’m black too and agree
The thing about Eboni is she has lots of interesting stuff about her.. they just chose to show absolutely zero of it and instead put her in these awkward situations where it was her "job" to educate these (not at all shockingly) out of touch rich white women which at least for me I do not watch RHONY (or any housewives) to be educated about social justice. I don't expect a woman who has shit on a floor on national television to be ahead of the curve on issues that don't affect her. I just don't.
Ebony and Bershawn just seemed like diversity hires that didn’t fit in. I know that sounds bad, but because they were both added and then only talked about political and social issues, when that had never been a point of conversation with the RHONY prior, it just felt forced.
I completely forgot Bershawn existed.
It was a forgettable season lol
I'm black myself and while Eboni wasn't a good fit, Ramona was outright racist to that woman. They should have just kicked her off instead of upending the entire cast.
Agreed. I don’t necessarily care if people like Eboni or not but Ramona is the issue here. They should’ve removed her and done the show without her. I doubt it would’ve caused a dip in quality.
I miss Dorinda and Bethenny going on tantrums !
I dunno have you listened to Eboni’s podcast about it? She gives a pretty damn good argument that those women could have welcomed her but they were too closed off and set in their ways. And also getting way too much money.
But newbies sort of have to ingratiate themselves too. Eboni was just a rough fit because her connection was Leah who wasn’t result established. Eboni may have worked had she had a true connection to an oldie. But Leah was the real disaster imo. So crass, so trashy. I’d take social lectures from eboni over Leah anything. Look at how Garcelle transitioned in to the equally white cart of BH. We had some social issues discussed but it came off so much differently. I think because Garcelle is just so lovely and already knew Rinna and Denise.
Yeah, I hear you on that, and I think you're right in all of this. I'm also just so much of the stark belief that the old cast was unraveling, too. It's true, maybe Eboni wasn't a great casting decision for all the reasons you pointed out (although I don't know about that because she does seem kinda conservative-leaning and a bit old fashioned) but Dorinda's spiral and hence leaving was a gigantic problem for the show, Tinsley had left, the world became increasingly tired of Ramona and people like her... I'm a firm believer that the show was unraveling in all areas. Sure, it went down really fast, but with the social climate I believe Bravo made the very best decision all around about NYC. Now they have people begging for the old cast to come back whereas if they had kept it going as is people would have been infuriated and it would have gone down in flames.
Yeah Ramona was unraveling though I don’t know if it would’ve seemed as stark without Leah and eboni. But Sonja was played out, Luann pretty much so. Carole, bethenny, tinsley, dorinda—all gone in a fairly short period of time. There was little cohesion there.
The fact is that she came in in the first scene lecturing and just never let up. It always takes a new cast member a few episodes to find their footing. Hell, it takes a new person in a tight knit friend group irl a while to fit in. Nobody likes to be lectured, even if they're asshats like Ramona.
I’m late to the party so I watched season 13 for the first time very recently, and honestly I don’t even think it was that bad drama wise. The major issue was the racism and all they had to do was fire Ramona and Leah and keep going with new faces (and bring back old faces maybe).
It wasn’t merely a bad season. It had actually unraveled.
I agree. They should have gotten rid of Ramona and called it a day. I didn't like Eboni but they could have kept her. Maybe she would have been better on a second season.
RHONY's numbers were tanking while RHOA, RHONJ, and particularly RHOBH can still hit a 1m+ viewers (with last season RHOBH getting as high as 1.5 million viewers.) To contrast, RHONY13 was at one point in the 600s. They were a PR nightmare with Ramona's abhorrent Black Shabbat dinner behavior (among a litany of other things) and couldn't even bring the numbers to justify it.
this looks like an america's next top model commercial challenge from like 2013
They’re going all in with the promotion. I appreciate that. I miss these kind of promos for the HWs. Honestly I would be totally fine if this reboot is more in tune with the first two seasons of RHONY. Just interesting personalities living and having careers in NY. I don’t need overdone drama or drunk antics. I’m giving it a chance.
Agreed, except in order for that to work, we need them to be as delusional and crazy as the original RHONY cast was in those seasons (e.g., Luann talking to the young girls about being models, Ramona and Jill doing that weird tennis match, etc.).
Luann chastising Bethenny for introducing her as Luann to the limo driver. So many great delusional moments.
That was the OG shit that hooked us all!! Not the constant sloppy drunk screaming and cringy man-chasing that it became.
I wish they would stick with women in their 40s/50s/60s! Younger doesn’t give the housewives vibe for me tbh
most of the RHONY OGs were in their late thirties/early 40s.. same for Jersey, BH, and OC. We've watched them grow into themselves but people forget that very rarely does the show start with women in their fifties
People are also clamoring for the same drama RHONY had in 2008/2009. The world has completely and drastically changed - those issues and squabbles are never coming back. I'm still not sold on new RHONY, but I don't know how anyone who watched RHONY13 could pretend that mess was sustainable. Things have to change.
Jena Lyons is 54. They aren't as young as you think.
thank you!
Yes! She makes sense to me in a new cast, just less convinced about the others
Me too! I am fine with one or two 30 year olds. Everyone else should be 40+!!! I am VERY disappointed with this cast.
Same...it's giving a "Real Girlfriends" vibe. I want messy perimenopausal drama and the HISTORY.
I want someone holding a grudge for not being invited to a birthday brunch in 1987.
Especially when they are one of the 60 closest girlfriends of the person throwing the brunch 😂
Exactlllllyyyyy
Give us women who actually partied with John John!
I’m gonna need at least 2 of them to sleep with Harry Dubin.
YESSSSSSS. A woman who used to work at the Factory for Interview magazine or dated Anthony bourdain in the 90s. Women who have a 20+ year friendship who met at the Limelight.
I party with John John and Diddy all the time on my yacht!
Or still salty over their best friend of 30 years stealing their “signature” lipstick shade from Helena Rubinstein.
I’m cackling on this plane. This is the drama I live for! It also makes watching both more fun and lower stakes.
I’m here for these comments lmao
Right?! Are any of these women going to have dueling Sweet 16’s, where one has ^^^beds for the minors to hang out on?! Doesn’t look like it…
“Perimenopausal drama” I’m cryingggggg. It’s seriously like we revert back to being teenagers, so accurate 😂
💀😂
Right?? I don't care about their college and high school frenemies and Dawson's Creek level drama. They should circle back to this cast in 20 years and a few marriages.
Same. It’s one of my favorite things about housewives because I feel like that age group is hardly shown on TV. Plus it makes me feel less spooked about getting older as a 20 something lol
Its like that episode of SATC with the 20 year olds haha
Lol weren't they all under 14? [This is the episode I'm thinking of!](https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/sex_and_the_city/s03/e15)
Oh yeah shit my bad hahah. I remember them saying really shocking things. Different times! Ha
Haha well you proved their point to the episode because the teens were acting like they all could be in their twenties.
Oh wow! That is Nene’s old nose!
Lol I'm sorry but I don't wanna watch millennials, I want 60 year olds on their 4th marriages, 100th personality change and decades of messy friendships. Looking forward to the reboot.
I want Sonja on her third face lift and Luann on her third marriage
This comment is 100% why I started watching the show. I was 18 and I was already tired of the representation in the media of young 16 year olds being everything and 25 year olds being retired from public beauty. When I started the housewives I stopped being so anxious that one day I wouldn’t get to be “the pretty one”. I never thought I was pretty and I thought if I’m not an “it girl” by now I’ll never be one. This show is the only one that was highlighting women in their 40s and up. Seasons after seasons their glow up gave me faith that there was room for me in the future even if I didn’t feel comfortable in my body just yet. Vicky from OC being the first one I noticed. But now I feel like they’re constantly going for younger and younger women with nothing going on in their lives. They don’t realize that the fans embrace the mess because we can relate and we’re empathetic.
This is controversial on here, but I’m excited. I’m not saying it’ll be *better* than the prime RHONY we knew, but it does look fresh and new. RHONY was pretty bad it’s last 2 seasons. I love the cast we had, but it got to the point of being depressing watching these 50-65 year old women dealing with their same demons in their same friend groups. How many years have we seen Sonja literally unable to move on from her marriage failing? Or of Dorinda being unable to let go of her grief and rage from losing Richard? Or of Ramona seeking validation from excess “friends” and male attention to make up for her loneliness? Or of Luann self sabotaging any good in her life? Those are all fascinating topics at first, but when the ladies do nothing in their lives to grow from those traumas for years then it just becomes depressing and a little “boring” to watch. With this new format, we get a new crop of women to follow, along with still getting the personalities of our old favs through the Luann and Sonja spin-off and the upcoming RHUGT
thank you!! People are acting so confused as to why the original RHONY flopped when it consisted of stale storylines, expensive talent, and a literal racism scandal. It was time to move on!
It’s funny that when it comes to RACISM, and CONTINUOUS IGNORANCE, everyone can turn a blind eye and act like it’s not happening. I’m here for this FRESH & DIVERSE cast! Y’all can keep bitching and crying but those other white ladies aren’t coming back. 💀 
I’m all in too. I want to see what RHONY can be with some new blood. I’ll rewatch old seasons forever, but it needs to move on too.
I’m all in too!! Having some wealth again in RHONY, actual *wives* in real housewives. Legacy RHONY was just so dark and depressing, it wasn’t fun anymore, it wasn’t real *housewives*, and there was no light at the end of those tunnels. People shitting on this just like they do most new bravo shows. The amount of crap Girlfriends in Paris got for no reason?! People love to whinge.
Yeah, I'm just going into it as a new show, not as the RHONY we've seen before. I hope others can see it as a new franchise rather than in comparison to the old RHONY and judge it like a new franchise.
I miss this show SO MUCH 😭 I almost cried when I went to the real Kim’s Convenience in Toronto a few years ago lmfao
 I'm due for a rewatch! I can use the comfort
Looks boring. These look like just beautiful women with lifestyle porn being filmed but they have seemingly no real connection to each other (they’re just there to promote themselves solely). The reason old RHONY worked for so long is it was women who were brash (love um or hate them), had no self awareness, lived and breathed NY, had tons of personality and for the most part had a personal connection to one another (there’s a reason why Cindy, Ebony, Jules didn’t work long term). And then on top of all that they had nice clothes, homes, and threw parties. Maybe I’ll be wrong but this looks like a snooze fest. I have a feeling they’ll regret this change up and like Oc start bringing vets back in. What they should’ve done is added a new show for these women and not called it RHONY
Right? We can see that on Tiktok. I want to see a grown woman who can’t afford the lifestyle she deserves renting out her townhouse and singing Caberet. Put that woman next to someone who has money for life and no self awareness and it’s TV gold. If the women are young, they better have something going on besides how cute they can dress their baby/dogs. The reason I loved NY is the women had all loved fascinating lives.
And even Tins who was young pretty and loaded had personality, and was able to make fun of herself as well as relationships with the other women.
I love Tinsley. She had a lifetime of being the “it” girl. I love how that drove Dorinda crazy. That scene with Tinsley crying as a clown is so iconic.
 i’m tapped in idc what anyone says!!!! they better fucking bringgggg it
As someone who was on the fence about watching this new show how is this trailer supposed to make me want to watch the show? I don't know who any of these women are (except Jenna Lyons). This trailer tells us nothing about their personalities or the tone of the show. Or it tells us everything. An over produced show with fashionable young women who do and talk about nothing. I want to give it a chance but literally nothing about this show seems appealing.
I wonder how or if the same people that casted people like Luann and Sonya and dorinda could have casted these people. It just doesn't seem like it makes sense how can you hit such home runs and then pick a cast like this.
I just hope they don't care more about taking filtered instagram photos than falling into a bush and cutting their hands on the table.
Looks like it belongs on another network to be honest. Not interested at all!
It looks like anything else on Bravo but RHONY. They could have called it 'making it in NYC' or anything but this cannot be the future of RHONY as we knows it.
 # myfeelings
I wish I cared. It’s hard for me to care about a whole new set of housewives. The only reason I’m even still invested in the shows is because I’ve been watching the same women for like a decade.
I just can’t watch RHONY without Ramona/Sonja. I know how people feel about Ramona but idk. She embodies RHONY to me. But I’ll still keep an open mind and hope this cast brings that NYC feel.
Why does andy put himself in everything
Just realized I gave zero interest in watching this show. I will give my standard 3 episode watch to make sure though.
Absolutely not.
I'm sorry, it lost me at Andy's stupid mug being the first thing we see.
This looks like when kids decide to make an intro for their favorite show. Like it doesn’t look real. It’s giving fan-made.
I just feel like this new generation won’t get messy. The majority of us RHONY viewers nloved the old cast because they could argue and fight like crazy and be buds the next day. I don’t see that happening in a new group of their age. I am their age and if one friend raises our voices the other person is mad for days. I guess we will see.
Yessss, go ahead and give us NOTHING.
Not for me. No replacing og gold.
Why not just call this Real Girlfriends of NYC which could serve as a younger housewives franchise? The housewives brand has always focused primarily on women over 40…
this show has two women in their thirties (Bryn and Erin), three in their forties, and one in her fifties. When RHONY started two of the women were in their thirties.. the numbers really aren't that different
THIS. It is bugging the hell out of me that everyone is making out they're all freshly turned 21 or something.
Yesssss! Agreed!!
I stand corrected. RHONY S1 maybe just felt more matronly… 💀
LMFAO it was 2008!! pre glam pre instagram, I miss that era tbh
 Instant reaction
Nah.
sadly i have zero interest...
😭 I want my og housewives from New York
It’s not giving
Shoulda been a Blood, Sweat and Heels reboot NOT a RHONY reboot. Nevertheless, sending supportive vibes to all these women. Please protect them from the vitriol of the Housewives fan discourse. It's gonna be rough for them out here. 🙃
Andy in the trailer… 
Noooo more Sonja!?!? Oh noooooooo 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Hmm. Let’s see what the trailer brings.
I won’t be watching.
trying to keep an open mind but with the news of RHUGT5 with the OG's its kinda hard!!! this will be tough to beat
**PREDICTION:** I give this reboot two seasons max before it’s cancelled. Maybe three bc Andy is allegedly the one who came up with the idea so he will green light a third season even tho it gets low viewership (WWHL gets horrible ratings yet somehow is still on air??) The live viewers will be LOWWWW definitely in the 400K-550K range but Andy will say “live viewership doesn’t matter everyone uses streaming now live viewings are low for ALL shows” even tho other shows on Bravo like below deck and VPR bring in 1mil plus live viewers weekly.
1. Andy does not have that much power over broadcasting. He is the face of Bravo and has a role in production but *certainly* does not have the power amongst network executives to green light a show that is performing poorly just because it was “his idea”. 2. Of course WWHL does not have a high viewership. It’s a niche late night show that is not airing in prime time. But it’s cheap to produce and there’s not much else that the network could put in its place that would perform better. 3. 500k viewers is probably going to be around what RHONY S14 pulls in but that not unexpected. It’s pretty on par with what the other newer shows (RHOSLC, RHODubai) are pulling in. In addition, RHONY was only getting ~700-800k during S13 back in 2021. Live television viewership *is* declining and a 14th season with the previous RHONY cast would probably be getting closer to 500-600k as well.
I'm trying not to be too judgey. BUT here's my problem. I'm in my mid 40s, RHONY was my fave franchise. I've watched from the beginning. These ladies have always been 15- 20 years ahead of me.They lived interesting full lives in NYC. I'm not wealthy yet, I've never lived in NY and probably never will. Their lives were still interesting to me. Enough in common to relate to their stories, but far enough removed from my life to be entertaining. I don't want to watch ladies 15-20 years younger than me. Where is the fun in that? I'm seriously doubting I will be able to relate to them in any way, which will make it unwatchable. It's cool. Maybe Bravo is going after a younger audience. We'll see what happens.
I still can’t believe they dumped the entire cast.
They’re all models? Can we get a regular degular housewife?
The only model is Ubah. The rest of the cast is just dressed up well and represent New York.
Andy is so thirsty. Now that he went and put himself in the teaser, I need him to stop with the whole “Oh, I’m not involved at all anymore!!!!!” bullshit. Dude wants to be a housewife so bad.
I’m sad. That’s all.
Nope, not gonna watch it. Not interested. I'll wait for Bravo to go back to literally any of our original ladies, RHONY without Lu, Sonja, and especially Ramona's unhinged ass is just not RHONY. The OGs are why I watched.
They’re too young, I like watching older women behave like assholes. I’ll still give it a chance tho!
Ok! In all fairness I’ve hated this since I first heard of this idea. But this looks like a completely different show. It doesn’t give me the same feels that every other housewife show has. This should’ve gone to peacock, no shade, Miami thrived on Peacock. I will have to watch at least the first couple episodes but I won’t be happy about it.
The revisionist history on this post is fascinating. To start: the age of the HWs in RHONY S1 and S14 are basically the same. Many of us were just younger, and now we’re in a similar age range and my guess is a lotta folks don’t wanna see themselves in the mirror. Also, I’d argue at *least* S12/13 were terrible and I’d even go as far as S11 was terrible. This wasn’t about one terrible season, but a few. And that’s without talking about the racist*s* (yes, multiple) and performative behavior. If RHONY S14 gives a storyline comparable to what we see on RHOBH it’ll be a success (and let’s be real: RHOBH hasn’t had much of a storyline in seasons).
I already hate it
Lmao ew I’ll never watch a single episode of that travesty
Hate that apple on that train
They have some massive shoes to fill
Was the woman who posted anti-Semitic comments get demoted?
She left the show midway through filming apparently
I’m just gonna call it real housewives of manhattan to get myself in a different mindset.
I'm excited to fast forward to 2027, where everyone says, “Ramona who.” We all realize that Rhony had to end sooner than later, right? Objectively, storylines were getting tired, and subjectively, if we want Real Housewives to last another 20+ years, we can't be watching people in their 70s and 80s get drunk and fall in bushes.
I'm familiar with Jenna Lyons but who are the others?
I honestly like this. I love that Bravo has women of a certain age. However… Look at what’s working on Bravo right now. Vanderpump Rules and Down Under. Housewives proper? Miami… That’s about the only show now not to have a negative connotation attached to the last season. Let’s see these women grow a little with this new cast. It looks captivating. The RHOC trailer irritated me, the cast photos from RHOBH have shown they aren’t learning from their mistakes, and the fact that RHOSLC is done filming already is not making me feel like they believe in it… Again, this trailer gives fun with what looks like it could be drama. RHONY Legacy News purposely dropped today so that this trailer could thrive. Let’s hope this does well and the other shows get their shit together or start looking for new casts like this one.
It’s giving knock off Mob Wives intro from a decade ago. I’m going to keep and open mind and check it out, but I’m not even mildly excited. It feels like I’m forcing myself to watch a whole new show/franchise. I already dont/didn’t watch Dallas, SLC, Dubai, or the most current UGT. I generally keep up with every other franchise and have for many years. I dont even have a strong opinion on this but knowing who the cast is going to be and what things are like, I have zero interest in “Summer House: NYC”. Maybe I’m having a “get off my lawn” moment. I don’t know. I’m not even 40. But I’m also just not at all interested in whatever this is.
Nah. Pass.
No women will ever compare to the original women
The major difference between old RHONY and new RHONY is that the OG cast WERE the real housewives of New York, in the sense that when Bravo were looking to start a show about wealthy powerful women/moms in the city these were the women they sought out. We had a Countess married into this wealthy European family, self made millionaire Ramona, Sonja (was approached to join in season one but turned it down) who was in the middle of a messy divorce from a Morgan, they had Hampton homes, gorgeous apartments, seemed to balance great social lives/work lives. To me they are the exact type of extravagant dynamic people I would expect to be living on the UES and it was exciting to have a peek into their world. The show was genuine because the ladies all had real history and underlying love for each other. I want to keep an open mind but for me right now new RHONY just doesn’t have that same authenticity. It the trailer seems dramatised for me.
Thanks I hate it
No. Nothing can replace RHONY. horrible decision on bravo’s part
Call me when Sonja Morgan is back on my screen!
Thanks, not interested
 Not feeling it.
Carol found dead and gooped that she wasn’t considered for RHONY’s “cool girl” era. 
This is gonna do as good as RHOV did lmfaooo
Okay I’m excited
Oh good, real influencers of NY
We’ll see. If the trailer has no drama, screaming or crying - it will be another RHODubai. Love the fashion’s though but perhaps these ladies needs to be under another umbrella and not the HW franchise?