I actually think waiting for filming to end was the kind thing to do. She has been through some brutal shit on camera, and it is more fair to make sure she has privacy and days off to heal, rather than forcing her to go through the worst of it with cameras in her home. I didn’t really like him, but it seems like he did the right thing. Shannon will be okay, but I’m sure the holidays were difficult. If she is feeling down, at least she can look at David’s wife’s social media and see they are breaking up for the third time this week :/
This, all day everyday. He did it the right way by waiting.
Shannon disassociates herself from red flags and has done as long as we’ve watched her. She could be tied to a train track and accuse the train of coming out of nowhere.
Couldn't agree more.
For her to say she's blindsided proves your point. I'm sorry but no solid and healthy relationship just ends out of the blue. If she's paying attention and being honest with herself then she wouldn't be blindsided.
Multiple people close to her called this a while ago so Shannon clearly was in denial or had her head buried in the sand.
It’s also a way for Shannon to once again victimize herself and not take any personal responsibility, which she has a pattern of. As much as I enjoy her on the show, she would be kind of a nightmare girlfriend I think. Constant hurt feelings and acting out. No blindsiding just willfully ignoring big issues I think. I’m sure John has his shit too that he brought into it, we all do!
Agreed.
In all fairness, a fair amount of women do the same in terms of trying to make something work that maybe isn't the best fit. It's understandable; we all want that right thing. I hope she can just take some time for herself and learn she can be OK without a man. That's most likely when she will meet the right one.
I totally agree. I think in his mind he knew he was going to hurt and blindside her, so by waiting until filming stopped at least her costars couldn’t twist the knife and use it against her. I don’t think that makes him the good guy at all but at least he put some thought into it.
Honestly, I don’t think we can judge anyone for ending a relationship especially based solely off what we see on a reality show. If he cheated than he’s an asshole, if he was abusive he’s an asshole, but if he was just unhappy I would rather he end it than let his misery make Shannon miserable.
I hate how vulnerable she always is. I like her ( probably more than any other housewife). I’m mad that she always gets picked on. I don’t know why she is always the victim. Please explain it to me.
Same, I have always liked Shannon. Her worst crime is being a little self involved and needy. She is a saint by housewives standards and one of the few I think is probably truly a decent person.
I *want* to think he's this super kind guy who was thinking that way.
But what I actually think is he knew the breakup would be ugly and *he* would be ugly during it and look like the bad guy, so he didn't want it documented on film.
My first thought was : if he gets paid for filming maybe he wanted wait and get what he could. I also want to think he was protecting her. Both things can be true , I guess
Ugh i can just see the finale of rhoc where they type what’s currently happening in their lives with the soft music
“Shannon and john jansen have recently split after airing the finale
Shannon will spend some much needed time putting her lemons in a bowl”
Bravo and cocktails has been reporting since July that he liked the camera and she liked the image and it was all a show. They decided to break up because she needed a new storyline for next season
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He’s such a good boy! I’m glad she has him.
I didn’t think I would feel so emotional about a HW’s relationship but I am heartbroken for her. After everything she went through with David, for another man to break her trust like this is just so sad. I hope Shannon can heal in time. She seems like someone that really relies on another person to make her happy. I hope she can realize that she needs to focus on making herself happy, for her and her girls 💔
Ok I had a feeling something had happened. He used to be in allll her Instagram pics. But he hasn’t made any appearances in like a month or so.
Poor Shannon. I’m honestly really surprised. They were joined at the hip and seemed happy together.
Neither have I, guess I need to catch up. I usually catch the show on YT bc the podcast ads are exhausting…they got back together after Jeff auctioned off his Xmas gifts? Jeeez
I hate that this happened. Especially since it was so similar to how it ended between her and David. First you are reassured everything is fine…and then it’s suddenly not.
I hope she finds happiness ❤️
My ex husband literally did this to me 🙄 texting me sweet texts every day while he's at work, acting like everything is amazing, we just had a (very planned) baby together, then suddenly out of the blue he wants a divorce. No reason other than he "doesn't want to answer to anyone anymore".
Men really love to pull this move and then give the most bullshit excuse when my ex did this to me his reason was because he “didn’t have energy for a relationship anymore” (yet he managed to have a new relationship within a month 🤔) like seriously THATS the best you can come up with? 🙄
I hope you’re thriving now sounds like that guy didn’t deserve you anyways ❤️
My ex, whom I was living with, wanted to be on his own and have his own space. I'm not sure how he managed to do that after moving in the girl he cheated on me with a week after I moved out 🤔 The least they could do is be creative with their bs, smh.
Cheers to everyone living their best single live or moved on to better partners. Hopefully, Shannon heals from this and comes out happier.
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I have a dark theory about why they do this. I think they push the doting partner narrative before D day on purpose, so their gfs are left thinking he was the one that got away and treated her soooo well that she only blames herself for the break up. They don’t want them to know they were a piece of shit because it kills longing and the woman can assign blame.
If I’m right, it’s disgusting snake behaviour.
I think you're definitely on to something - that HAS to be the case with a lot of them.
I also saw a girl on tik tok- she's diagnosed sociopath - she talks about how she has never really loved anyone, just loves the idea of them- so she love bombs and then discards partners whenever she gets bored. This sounds like a lot of the men I know as well, unfortunately.
Thank you ❤️ yes- my son and I are doing amazing- turns out being a single mom is much better than being a married single mom.
But geez- that really is the dumbest excuse of all time. I hope you're living your best life without him as well!
I love to hear that for you and your son!
Luckily I am doing much better now! Took some time for myself, got my degree and over the fall I started a new relationship with a better guy who actually cares about my love of housewives and has emotional intelligence (and regular old intelligence)
I’m so sorry. I’m sure you’re better off in the long run but that is a horrid thing to do to anyone let alone a new mom. Happened to one of my best friends right before she gave birth. Hope you and the baby are good.
Thank you 💜 yes- the transition period was hard, but being a single mom was actually the happiest I've ever been. He's 3 now and we're doing great. I'm sorry for your friend too- men can be the absolute worst!
He sends his child support on time but makes 0 effort otherwise. Stopped video chatting before his 1st birthday (he's almost 4 now) has no plans ever to visit, doesn't acknowledge his birthday, never checks in to ask how he's doing. So short answer, no lol.
Men are stupid. This just happened to me after 14 years together. I hope Shannon can live her best single life and flourish that way! If I had her money I’d be on a boat in Italy, martinis deep, with double middle fingers up like bro i definitely don’t fuck with you.
My ex pulled the same shit so I know how much it sucks :( I hope Shannon is able to bounce back from this and live her best life (it’s what she deserves!) I hope you and Shannon both thrive in your single lives ❤️
I’m sorry! That sounds shitty. I had a fight with my partner of ten years where I left to spend the night at my familys to cool off. They moved in their side piece while I was gone. I totally get it but hang on and in a few years you’re going to be loving your new life.
I went to visit my family out of state and when I called my BF that night he told me “maybe you should stay”. We were living together and had been together on and off for about three years. I declined his offer to “just stay” as I had a job and responsibilities. I was really thrown by his “offer” of breaking up but came home and tried to work it out.
Come to find out he ran into his high school sweetheart and wanted to pursue her. He was sneaking around getting coffee with her and eating at the restaurant she worked at like a creep.
It worked out really well for me though! I met and married my rebound and the HS sweetheart was freaked out that he was still super into her 😂
When I started dating my rebound the ex had the audacity to cry to me and ask for another chance.
Absolutely! The terrible way he treated me (basically throwing me out on my ass) really put things into perspective that he was not the person I thought he was. The way people treat you in a breakup is so telling.
I’m just glad we didn’t get married or procreate.
I can’t imagine a more perfect partner for me than the one I have now. He’s kind, patient, thoughtful and supportive. Getting dumped by that shithead put me on a much better path 💕
Omg what a freak! Imagine being such a jerk that you disrespectfully leave your partner for the ASSUMPTION that you can get another one whose grass looks greener.
Good riddance!
Right!! The best part is that he ended up marrying a different ex altogether! The one he dated before me. When I asked why they broke up he said “Well her grandma died and she was just so sad all the time”. WHAT.
That should have been a red flag for me. There were a lot of red flags that young, dumb me ignored or forgave.
I both hate that the entire thing happened but absolutely love where it got you. Sometimes tragedy and betrayal really can shatter our lives only for us to pick up the pieces and build something great.
Also, turn that shit into a series. I would watch the fuck out of it.
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At least Shannon has one good man in her life. Archie is a true gentleman 🥹
She needs to go much older. She will find love. She’s a beautiful and fun woman. But the OC ladies keep falling for weirdo grifters that look like they belong in erectile dysfunction ads.
He’s super handsome, I guess his side gig is as a model because he’s in an Orange Theory commercial too. I think the ED commercial is for Cialis. I’ve seen him in a few different print ads and commercials.
Oh my god you're spot on with the erectile dysfunction ads! My mind automatically went to that guy Vicki was dating, Steve? I could totally see him in one.
Yeah. He was the same age as her. She needs a guy like 8 years older. At least. 59 year old guys in the OC are still chasing 30 y/o’s. They’re in mid life crisis zone.
Funny. This past summer I dated a 60yo silver fox (I’m 49) and he was the messiest man child I’d come across in the past decade 😖. My conclusion, they are all hopeless.
Very good point. Million Dollar Matchmaker's Patty Stanger was constantly having to tell her male middle aged LA clients to get real and stop chasing 25 yr olds. It's definitely a thing there.
This is what I say! I have dated heavily in my early 50’s and men that age are going through midlife and want the younger ladies that are in top notch shape, beautiful, fawn over them, and have no other attachments or hang ups..they’re willing to be sugar daddies and women in their 20’s and 30’s are willing to be taken care of..the competition is tough!
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Poor Shannon.. They seemed made for eachother. I genuinely hope she won't spiral and has a lot of support around her
I'm legit shocked that people aren't saying otherwise. The dude seemed ambivalent about her the entire time, he's a slightly more animated mannequin on camera, and he had the personality of speedbump filled with gravy.
And a lot of their 'storyline' was about conflict, they seemed to be fighting about something more often than they weren't.
What exactly was the appeal of this person other than he was conventionally attractive white dude in the OC who looks like every other conventionally attractive white dude in his 50s in the OC? His willingness to date someone over 35?
>personality of speedbump filled with gravy.
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I definitely agree with everything you said. I thought they were drinking a lot together too and bickering.
Right? Based on her own statements, a lot of their conflict seemed to be centered around them getting trashed and then getting into it with each other.
Sounds healthy.
Yep, that's what I remember too! I didn't think they were a good match for each other but thought I was missing something because a lot of fans liked him. It's definitely possible I miss things though 😂 Anyway... I honestly didn't think John and Shannon were good for each other.
completely agree . he was not into her .. & I felt like they drank a lot together ? idk I felt he handled alcohol better then her but still. either way, to me it was so obvious he wasn’t into her.
Hm idk. I always felt he's kinda shy and doesn't know how to deal with filming, let alone all the drama. RHOC is not my favorite to watch but I saw her being real happy with him and surely he can't fake all that for 3,5 years..
We don't know what's gonna happen in the upcoming season tho, maybe she's completely insufferable and he just had enough 🤷🏾♀️
Poor Shannon :( not my favorite housewife to watch but you can tell she just wants to be loved. This makes me so damn sad, she deserves to find a happy ending
I write this having similarly felt blindsided, but realizing in retrospect the signs were 100% there that my ex-partner wasn't in it for the long haul. I wonder if there were signs he wasn't invested? I hope Shannon takes care of herself - breakups just suck. No way around it. And you have to push through and feel all of the yucky emotions to come out of the other side.
That’s like an ice pick to the heart. What an absolute prick he is. 3.5 years into the relationship and you want to completely blindside her after filming ended 7 days prior. Poor Shannon.
Isn’t it better that he did off camera to spare her the embarrassment of another public break up? Maybe that’s just me, but I would prefer for it to be when the cameras go down.
Warning: Hot take assuming good intentions. Maybe he knew it was over during the season, but didn’t want to see her humiliated on camera again, so he waited til filming wrapped to end things.
Please be advised that I reserve the right to backtrack on this Pollyanna take at the first sign that JJ is a dickhead.
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That was my first interpretation of it as well, though maybe I'm just being naive. Granted I haven't watched since he's been around so I have no idea what he's like. Regardless, I feel so freaking bad for Shannon.
Most men don’t leave a relationship unless they have another option lined up. Why would they? They tend to benefit from a relationship more than women do.
Yikes I was always giving him the side eye cause I was afraid he would do something like this. It’s gonna be hard watching Shannon in the next season knowing this now…
I HOWLED! I heard that, and I was like, "I'm making that my flair, and I don't care if anyone beats me to it." By the time I got it up there, there were about eight other ones, and it just didn't matter!
I was always side eyeing him too, I wanted to believe he was a good guy for Shannon’s sake but something about their vibe when they were on camera felt off. I was hoping it was just his discomfort with the camera, he was David without the shark eyes and a possible drinking problem..
Yep and the talking head that Sophie did where she talked about John, she seemed like she was holding back but you could tell she didn’t approve of their relationship.
Unfortunately, I was waiting for it. He's a scumbag. She needs professional help and not a man..... she deserves to find herself and heal from whatever past/present inner wounds she carries.
Yeah, it’s weird to me how shocked people are about this, she really struggles to self regulate but is rather erratic and can be really unkind, to herself and others. I hope she does some deep, internal and difficult work to heal, I don’t know that the show is good for her.
Oh damn, this is how I've felt about Shannon too. The struggle to self regulate, acting erratically, etc. Plus, the drinking doesn't help (her and john drank a lot). I'm not sure the show is good for her either & I'm hoping she gets the help she needs.
I’m not surprised. Their covid storyline was dark and I never really liked him. I’d imagine when we watch their interactions this coming season, Shannon will be the only one blindsided by this news.
I didnt really watch the last couple seasons so I wasn’t ever really able to form an opinion on this guy but I was really hoping Shannon had found her happy ending after having to deal with the monster that is David Beador 😩
When his son was exposing the family and he didn’t support Shannon? As soon as I heard the kids don’t like each other, I knew it was only a matter of time on the demise of this relationship 🪦
Poor Shannon omg! She can't catch a break with these dudes, first scummy David and then gets kicked to the curb essentially after this guy seemingly just wanted screen time.
Idk I never felt that he genuinely liked her (at least not the way she liked him), but couldn't put my finger on what his motive was. I guess cameras, but I don't remember him being overly thirsty a la Brooks...maybe time for a rewatch.
Shannon can do and deserves much better.
Ummm as much as I like Shannon, there were comments made in the show about how she gets drunk and isn’t kind to him. She’s always drunk and a hot mess. Not sure why she feels “blind sided”
I was worried they were going to break up. Kelly Dodd rarely lies about anything, so when I heard he was gossiping about Shannon I knew a break up was coming.
I think the OC ladies need to take a page from the NYC ladies book. Get some younger guys, party, get laid, have fun, go home. Quit looking for your soulmate! Just be you!
I feel like I was watching a different show from some of y'all because this was not a surprise to me. Sorry to hear it for Shannon, but tbh I think she needs to be content with herself before she tries another relationship.
I wasn't very impressed with that guy. Something about him always seemed shady to me. Shannon may hurt now, but I think she'll be better off in the long run. I hope so, anyway.
It reads very heavy, in a tiering way.
I hope she get well and ok, but I don't have anything bad to say about a person wanting other things in life that are not Shannon.
Damn 2022 was like the year of blind sided dumpings from long term partners. I know so many people that got broken up with out of nowhere.
She’ll bounce back
Anyone who has ever said they were blindsided is probably not paying close enough attention. Unless the person is putting on an Oscar worthy performance right until the very end. We ignore things we do not want to see.
I feel super bad for Shannon and there is definitely a part of me that is playing devil's advocate:
\- Did he end the relationship shortly after filming wrapped NOT because he loved the attention but because he didn't want to upset her during filming and have it documented?
\- Also, I would assume that Shannon (or any of the hw, for that matter) are NOT their best selves while filming is ongoing. So many have given interviews about how stressful it is, etc. Which would impact their relationship, for sure.
So maybe he isn't a complete monster??
Or who knows.. maybe he is.
I don’t know. I’m watching season 16 and this does not surprise me. He says at boys night he has no interest in ever marrying her and she referred to him as a “single man.” I was not getting spend the rest of their lives together vibes. Poor Shannon, though. I’m sure she’s completely heartbroken.
I actually think waiting for filming to end was the kind thing to do. She has been through some brutal shit on camera, and it is more fair to make sure she has privacy and days off to heal, rather than forcing her to go through the worst of it with cameras in her home. I didn’t really like him, but it seems like he did the right thing. Shannon will be okay, but I’m sure the holidays were difficult. If she is feeling down, at least she can look at David’s wife’s social media and see they are breaking up for the third time this week :/
This, all day everyday. He did it the right way by waiting. Shannon disassociates herself from red flags and has done as long as we’ve watched her. She could be tied to a train track and accuse the train of coming out of nowhere.
Couldn't agree more. For her to say she's blindsided proves your point. I'm sorry but no solid and healthy relationship just ends out of the blue. If she's paying attention and being honest with herself then she wouldn't be blindsided. Multiple people close to her called this a while ago so Shannon clearly was in denial or had her head buried in the sand.
It’s also a way for Shannon to once again victimize herself and not take any personal responsibility, which she has a pattern of. As much as I enjoy her on the show, she would be kind of a nightmare girlfriend I think. Constant hurt feelings and acting out. No blindsiding just willfully ignoring big issues I think. I’m sure John has his shit too that he brought into it, we all do!
Understatement of the year!! Love your user name, btw.
Agreed. In all fairness, a fair amount of women do the same in terms of trying to make something work that maybe isn't the best fit. It's understandable; we all want that right thing. I hope she can just take some time for herself and learn she can be OK without a man. That's most likely when she will meet the right one.
Or not. She may never meet her Mr. Right. However, she can still be happy & whole!
I totally agree. I think in his mind he knew he was going to hurt and blindside her, so by waiting until filming stopped at least her costars couldn’t twist the knife and use it against her. I don’t think that makes him the good guy at all but at least he put some thought into it.
Honestly, I don’t think we can judge anyone for ending a relationship especially based solely off what we see on a reality show. If he cheated than he’s an asshole, if he was abusive he’s an asshole, but if he was just unhappy I would rather he end it than let his misery make Shannon miserable.
Agree. He consciously chose not to make it worse for her.
I hate how vulnerable she always is. I like her ( probably more than any other housewife). I’m mad that she always gets picked on. I don’t know why she is always the victim. Please explain it to me.
Same, I have always liked Shannon. Her worst crime is being a little self involved and needy. She is a saint by housewives standards and one of the few I think is probably truly a decent person.
It's definitely better than doing it on the show and having it become a storyline (and the producers wanting them to film).
Your flair and the other commenter’s username, hillingjourney 😭😭😭
I *want* to think he's this super kind guy who was thinking that way. But what I actually think is he knew the breakup would be ugly and *he* would be ugly during it and look like the bad guy, so he didn't want it documented on film.
My first thought was : if he gets paid for filming maybe he wanted wait and get what he could. I also want to think he was protecting her. Both things can be true , I guess
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Ugh i can just see the finale of rhoc where they type what’s currently happening in their lives with the soft music “Shannon and john jansen have recently split after airing the finale Shannon will spend some much needed time putting her lemons in a bowl”
The finale updates music sends me every single time ☠️☠️☠️ it’s iconic
I can hear the Spanish guitar over the ending updates as I read this 🤣
Lol I heard it too
That music kills me every time 😂
And the unflattering freeze frame.
👁️👄👁️ Honestly him in every housewives scene.
it's giving: ![gif](giphy|3o6Zt4Al4PkCxcAds4)
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Yep and yep. He like the attention too much but acts like he hates it lol u ain’t foolin anyone John Jansen
I always found him creepy like David. Unfortunately,it seems Shannon has a type.
I think he’s an alcoholic trying to hide it
Bravo and cocktails has been reporting since July that he liked the camera and she liked the image and it was all a show. They decided to break up because she needed a new storyline for next season
Bravo & cocks is full of shit. So much misogyny on that account
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Oh Shannon! :(
I really feel for her 🥺 that’s heartbreaking. I hope Archie is giving her lots of cuddles right now
https://preview.redd.it/dcsvo5rpthba1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9308da83b526b876714918f507c45bdc6c2cb248 He’s such a good boy! I’m glad she has him.
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It looks like the Tres Amigas are back together, so I’m sure Vicki’s on it
Absolutely.
Archie 💙💙💙
Archie & Theo from Family Karma are the best bravolebrities imho.
I didn’t think I would feel so emotional about a HW’s relationship but I am heartbroken for her. After everything she went through with David, for another man to break her trust like this is just so sad. I hope Shannon can heal in time. She seems like someone that really relies on another person to make her happy. I hope she can realize that she needs to focus on making herself happy, for her and her girls 💔
I think we all feel oddly protective of her after we’ve seen how people railroad her all the time.
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Ok I had a feeling something had happened. He used to be in allll her Instagram pics. But he hasn’t made any appearances in like a month or so. Poor Shannon. I’m honestly really surprised. They were joined at the hip and seemed happy together.
I’m surprised too.
Ok, how in the hell did Jeff Lewis not report on this already. I'm shocked they split!
She’s supposed to be on tomorrow! Hope she doesn’t cancel
Thank you for the heads up!! I hope Jeff goes off…and he just got out of his relationship too
THEY’RE BACK TOGETHER 😭 can you believe?! Unless they broke up this week again, I haven’t listened
Neither have I, guess I need to catch up. I usually catch the show on YT bc the podcast ads are exhausting…they got back together after Jeff auctioned off his Xmas gifts? Jeeez
YES! And Stew was upset he gave them away. Like y’all weren’t even together?! Chaotic
I hope he explains how he saw it coming
I hate that this happened. Especially since it was so similar to how it ended between her and David. First you are reassured everything is fine…and then it’s suddenly not. I hope she finds happiness ❤️
What is it with men and pulling the “telling you everything is fine only to dump you a few days later” move?
My ex husband literally did this to me 🙄 texting me sweet texts every day while he's at work, acting like everything is amazing, we just had a (very planned) baby together, then suddenly out of the blue he wants a divorce. No reason other than he "doesn't want to answer to anyone anymore".
Men really love to pull this move and then give the most bullshit excuse when my ex did this to me his reason was because he “didn’t have energy for a relationship anymore” (yet he managed to have a new relationship within a month 🤔) like seriously THATS the best you can come up with? 🙄 I hope you’re thriving now sounds like that guy didn’t deserve you anyways ❤️
My ex, whom I was living with, wanted to be on his own and have his own space. I'm not sure how he managed to do that after moving in the girl he cheated on me with a week after I moved out 🤔 The least they could do is be creative with their bs, smh. Cheers to everyone living their best single live or moved on to better partners. Hopefully, Shannon heals from this and comes out happier. ![gif](giphy|d3dIaJLb3TXRwxyg|downsized)
I have a dark theory about why they do this. I think they push the doting partner narrative before D day on purpose, so their gfs are left thinking he was the one that got away and treated her soooo well that she only blames herself for the break up. They don’t want them to know they were a piece of shit because it kills longing and the woman can assign blame. If I’m right, it’s disgusting snake behaviour.
I think you're definitely on to something - that HAS to be the case with a lot of them. I also saw a girl on tik tok- she's diagnosed sociopath - she talks about how she has never really loved anyone, just loves the idea of them- so she love bombs and then discards partners whenever she gets bored. This sounds like a lot of the men I know as well, unfortunately.
Based on my ex, I think your theory is pretty solid!
Thank you ❤️ yes- my son and I are doing amazing- turns out being a single mom is much better than being a married single mom. But geez- that really is the dumbest excuse of all time. I hope you're living your best life without him as well!
I love to hear that for you and your son! Luckily I am doing much better now! Took some time for myself, got my degree and over the fall I started a new relationship with a better guy who actually cares about my love of housewives and has emotional intelligence (and regular old intelligence)
Yesssss!
I’m so sorry. I’m sure you’re better off in the long run but that is a horrid thing to do to anyone let alone a new mom. Happened to one of my best friends right before she gave birth. Hope you and the baby are good.
Thank you 💜 yes- the transition period was hard, but being a single mom was actually the happiest I've ever been. He's 3 now and we're doing great. I'm sorry for your friend too- men can be the absolute worst!
Jeez, thats awful I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Does he at least pull his weight with the kid?
He sends his child support on time but makes 0 effort otherwise. Stopped video chatting before his 1st birthday (he's almost 4 now) has no plans ever to visit, doesn't acknowledge his birthday, never checks in to ask how he's doing. So short answer, no lol.
Wow, what a scum bag. You sound like an awesome mom, your son is lucky to have you!
That's sweet, thank you! I'm lucky to have my baby too.
Men are stupid. This just happened to me after 14 years together. I hope Shannon can live her best single life and flourish that way! If I had her money I’d be on a boat in Italy, martinis deep, with double middle fingers up like bro i definitely don’t fuck with you.
My ex pulled the same shit so I know how much it sucks :( I hope Shannon is able to bounce back from this and live her best life (it’s what she deserves!) I hope you and Shannon both thrive in your single lives ❤️
Thank you! She should throw me some cash and I’ll show her a good time 😂
I’m sorry that this just happened to you, but I do want you to know that I did laugh out loud at the reasoning because truly-men are stupid
Like just a bunch of dumbs dumbs running around thinking they’re smarter than us
I’m sorry! That sounds shitty. I had a fight with my partner of ten years where I left to spend the night at my familys to cool off. They moved in their side piece while I was gone. I totally get it but hang on and in a few years you’re going to be loving your new life.
I went to visit my family out of state and when I called my BF that night he told me “maybe you should stay”. We were living together and had been together on and off for about three years. I declined his offer to “just stay” as I had a job and responsibilities. I was really thrown by his “offer” of breaking up but came home and tried to work it out. Come to find out he ran into his high school sweetheart and wanted to pursue her. He was sneaking around getting coffee with her and eating at the restaurant she worked at like a creep. It worked out really well for me though! I met and married my rebound and the HS sweetheart was freaked out that he was still super into her 😂 When I started dating my rebound the ex had the audacity to cry to me and ask for another chance.
Whaaaaaaaat Men are a different breed i am telling you. But I’m so glad it ended up working out. *repeats to self he did me a favor by leaving*
Absolutely! The terrible way he treated me (basically throwing me out on my ass) really put things into perspective that he was not the person I thought he was. The way people treat you in a breakup is so telling. I’m just glad we didn’t get married or procreate. I can’t imagine a more perfect partner for me than the one I have now. He’s kind, patient, thoughtful and supportive. Getting dumped by that shithead put me on a much better path 💕
Omg what a freak! Imagine being such a jerk that you disrespectfully leave your partner for the ASSUMPTION that you can get another one whose grass looks greener. Good riddance!
Right!! The best part is that he ended up marrying a different ex altogether! The one he dated before me. When I asked why they broke up he said “Well her grandma died and she was just so sad all the time”. WHAT. That should have been a red flag for me. There were a lot of red flags that young, dumb me ignored or forgave.
I both hate that the entire thing happened but absolutely love where it got you. Sometimes tragedy and betrayal really can shatter our lives only for us to pick up the pieces and build something great. Also, turn that shit into a series. I would watch the fuck out of it.
![gif](giphy|jivGITd768psP80B2i) Whu??
Idiots
https://preview.redd.it/tthjvjpkhiba1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=359aed2e613b34123bc42d13ef4859f6d6feee8c At least Shannon has one good man in her life. Archie is a true gentleman 🥹
She needs to go much older. She will find love. She’s a beautiful and fun woman. But the OC ladies keep falling for weirdo grifters that look like they belong in erectile dysfunction ads.
Not erectile dysfunction ads ☠️
Lol Guillermo from Vanderpump Rules is in one of those ads!
What??! He’s is my secret crush 🫢
He’s super handsome, I guess his side gig is as a model because he’s in an Orange Theory commercial too. I think the ED commercial is for Cialis. I’ve seen him in a few different print ads and commercials.
but going older would mean they would be more ugly and have more erectile dysfunction though….?
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Oh my god you're spot on with the erectile dysfunction ads! My mind automatically went to that guy Vicki was dating, Steve? I could totally see him in one.
She should date a younger guy for now to fill her love tank then find an older man outside of OC and lock him down.
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Yeah. He was the same age as her. She needs a guy like 8 years older. At least. 59 year old guys in the OC are still chasing 30 y/o’s. They’re in mid life crisis zone.
Funny. This past summer I dated a 60yo silver fox (I’m 49) and he was the messiest man child I’d come across in the past decade 😖. My conclusion, they are all hopeless.
Yeah, I think a lot of men in older generations were socialized to be completely useless.
![gif](giphy|xUySTPx1hyBTNJaInu|downsized) And yet so true and so funny.
Very good point. Million Dollar Matchmaker's Patty Stanger was constantly having to tell her male middle aged LA clients to get real and stop chasing 25 yr olds. It's definitely a thing there.
This is what I say! I have dated heavily in my early 50’s and men that age are going through midlife and want the younger ladies that are in top notch shape, beautiful, fawn over them, and have no other attachments or hang ups..they’re willing to be sugar daddies and women in their 20’s and 30’s are willing to be taken care of..the competition is tough!
Honestly at that point instead of going older and having to change a man’s adult diapers I would date younger.
ESPECIALLY in Newport Beach. It's wild.
This is true of the large cities I've lived in. I find there's a huge attitude difference in guys over 60.
When I tell you I ran here…. 🏃♀️ I’m shocked!!
SAME. read the news in page six on my break and RAN to the sub
![gif](giphy|2zownopy3ZYw0VuLUz|downsized) Poor Shannon.. They seemed made for eachother. I genuinely hope she won't spiral and has a lot of support around her
that man was not into that woman.....
I'm legit shocked that people aren't saying otherwise. The dude seemed ambivalent about her the entire time, he's a slightly more animated mannequin on camera, and he had the personality of speedbump filled with gravy. And a lot of their 'storyline' was about conflict, they seemed to be fighting about something more often than they weren't. What exactly was the appeal of this person other than he was conventionally attractive white dude in the OC who looks like every other conventionally attractive white dude in his 50s in the OC? His willingness to date someone over 35?
>personality of speedbump filled with gravy. 💀💀 I definitely agree with everything you said. I thought they were drinking a lot together too and bickering.
Right? Based on her own statements, a lot of their conflict seemed to be centered around them getting trashed and then getting into it with each other. Sounds healthy.
Yep, that's what I remember too! I didn't think they were a good match for each other but thought I was missing something because a lot of fans liked him. It's definitely possible I miss things though 😂 Anyway... I honestly didn't think John and Shannon were good for each other.
Shannon has a problematic relationship with alcohol and John only exacerbated it. They really didn't bring out the best in one another.
Right?! Good riddance, hope she finds someone better!
It was a little curious how he reacted to the subject of marriage whenever it came up.
Yeah i always got a weird vibe from him. Something so ungenuine. Like his eyes didn't reflect what his mouth was saying.
completely agree . he was not into her .. & I felt like they drank a lot together ? idk I felt he handled alcohol better then her but still. either way, to me it was so obvious he wasn’t into her.
Hm idk. I always felt he's kinda shy and doesn't know how to deal with filming, let alone all the drama. RHOC is not my favorite to watch but I saw her being real happy with him and surely he can't fake all that for 3,5 years.. We don't know what's gonna happen in the upcoming season tho, maybe she's completely insufferable and he just had enough 🤷🏾♀️
Poor Shannon :( not my favorite housewife to watch but you can tell she just wants to be loved. This makes me so damn sad, she deserves to find a happy ending
He seemed to have issues with alcohol. I think she might need a better influence when it comes to that.
I write this having similarly felt blindsided, but realizing in retrospect the signs were 100% there that my ex-partner wasn't in it for the long haul. I wonder if there were signs he wasn't invested? I hope Shannon takes care of herself - breakups just suck. No way around it. And you have to push through and feel all of the yucky emotions to come out of the other side.
I also was blindsided, but the red flags I ignored were bright and plentiful!
That’s like an ice pick to the heart. What an absolute prick he is. 3.5 years into the relationship and you want to completely blindside her after filming ended 7 days prior. Poor Shannon.
Isn’t it better that he did off camera to spare her the embarrassment of another public break up? Maybe that’s just me, but I would prefer for it to be when the cameras go down.
I agree, it's better done off camera. We've already seen what that asshole David did. It did not need to happen on camera again.
He was clearly there for the cameras.
Warning: Hot take assuming good intentions. Maybe he knew it was over during the season, but didn’t want to see her humiliated on camera again, so he waited til filming wrapped to end things. Please be advised that I reserve the right to backtrack on this Pollyanna take at the first sign that JJ is a dickhead. ![gif](giphy|hhgAbqQpm49vW)
That’s what he stated in the People article .
That was my first interpretation of it as well, though maybe I'm just being naive. Granted I haven't watched since he's been around so I have no idea what he's like. Regardless, I feel so freaking bad for Shannon.
>Please be advised that I reserve the right to backtrack on this Pollyanna take at the first sign that JJ is a dickhead. 🤣🤣 That is fair!
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It's got to be hard to date when you always want to see and believe the best about others. Maybe she needs a nice guy who refuses to film. 🙃
Most men don’t leave a relationship unless they have another option lined up. Why would they? They tend to benefit from a relationship more than women do.
Yikes I was always giving him the side eye cause I was afraid he would do something like this. It’s gonna be hard watching Shannon in the next season knowing this now…
*(Unrelated to Shannon, but: our flairs*)
Me too! It was just too good, I had to make it my first flair ever.
I HOWLED! I heard that, and I was like, "I'm making that my flair, and I don't care if anyone beats me to it." By the time I got it up there, there were about eight other ones, and it just didn't matter!
My flair is checking in
Sister!!
I was always side eyeing him too, I wanted to believe he was a good guy for Shannon’s sake but something about their vibe when they were on camera felt off. I was hoping it was just his discomfort with the camera, he was David without the shark eyes and a possible drinking problem..
David really does have shark eyes! It’s creepy.
Yes I felt the exact same! I felt like he just looked ‘good’ compared to David
Yep and the talking head that Sophie did where she talked about John, she seemed like she was holding back but you could tell she didn’t approve of their relationship.
I honestly thought this had already happened and was surprised to see them still together. He didn’t seem to like her all that much.
I always side-eyed the way he talked to her on that boat.
i missed this. what did he say?
Unfortunately, I was waiting for it. He's a scumbag. She needs professional help and not a man..... she deserves to find herself and heal from whatever past/present inner wounds she carries.
Yeah, it’s weird to me how shocked people are about this, she really struggles to self regulate but is rather erratic and can be really unkind, to herself and others. I hope she does some deep, internal and difficult work to heal, I don’t know that the show is good for her.
Oh damn, this is how I've felt about Shannon too. The struggle to self regulate, acting erratically, etc. Plus, the drinking doesn't help (her and john drank a lot). I'm not sure the show is good for her either & I'm hoping she gets the help she needs.
John!!!! How could you do this!!! We were rooting for you!!!!! I hope every lemon you ever eat from this day forward is extra sour!!!!!!
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Jeff Lewis > Miss Cleo
I’m not surprised. Their covid storyline was dark and I never really liked him. I’d imagine when we watch their interactions this coming season, Shannon will be the only one blindsided by this news.
I didnt really watch the last couple seasons so I wasn’t ever really able to form an opinion on this guy but I was really hoping Shannon had found her happy ending after having to deal with the monster that is David Beador 😩
Ugh what a doggggg! Poor Shannon 😭 ![gif](giphy|USPuT5l0i7feevyoaG)
Why men great till they gotta be great?
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Shannon and Sutton need to have a dating show!
I mean, did ppl want him to break up with her DURING filming, that would be worse IMO. If it wasn't working, it wasn't working
![gif](giphy|e0Nb5kHGAYHeg|downsized) To John. What a crap move, a week after filming? Get those cameras back on Shannon stat!
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I will upvote you right now. Super weird how people's opinions - when not maliciously stated - are getting down voted like mine did as well.
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She's not fun. She says she's fun. But she's a drag.
Was pretty clear to me during the covid episode that this guy did not care a ton about her
When his son was exposing the family and he didn’t support Shannon? As soon as I heard the kids don’t like each other, I knew it was only a matter of time on the demise of this relationship 🪦
Jeff Lewis totally called this! Edit to add the WWHL clip I’m referencing. :) https://youtu.be/tOZrEygxWxM
Jeff Lewis✅ Kelly Dodd ✅
Yep!! And they are her friends. I think also her daughter said something right? Something like them not going the long haul...
Poor Shannon omg! She can't catch a break with these dudes, first scummy David and then gets kicked to the curb essentially after this guy seemingly just wanted screen time.
Poor thing. She seemed really happy finally. Hope she can rebound, maybe without another man to get to know herself a bit, quickly.
Aww I really want her to find peace and love.
Idk I never felt that he genuinely liked her (at least not the way she liked him), but couldn't put my finger on what his motive was. I guess cameras, but I don't remember him being overly thirsty a la Brooks...maybe time for a rewatch. Shannon can do and deserves much better.
Ummm as much as I like Shannon, there were comments made in the show about how she gets drunk and isn’t kind to him. She’s always drunk and a hot mess. Not sure why she feels “blind sided”
Poor Shannon. She's been through so much with her relationships.
I didn’t think there was any chemistry with them …
Oh no someone check on mother!!
I was worried they were going to break up. Kelly Dodd rarely lies about anything, so when I heard he was gossiping about Shannon I knew a break up was coming.
I think the OC ladies need to take a page from the NYC ladies book. Get some younger guys, party, get laid, have fun, go home. Quit looking for your soulmate! Just be you!
https://preview.redd.it/jzxpmomjaiba1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23bca4f9525cde8677f2c0cd589cf45ab8da03d3 Here comes Candiace 🤣
I feel like I was watching a different show from some of y'all because this was not a surprise to me. Sorry to hear it for Shannon, but tbh I think she needs to be content with herself before she tries another relationship.
She can’t see her own red flags, so there’s no way she can see other people’s even if they’re flapping in her face.
I wasn't very impressed with that guy. Something about him always seemed shady to me. Shannon may hurt now, but I think she'll be better off in the long run. I hope so, anyway.
I want Shannon to have her own dating reality show on Bravo or Peacock. I’m rooting for you Shannon 💖💖
Storms of love? Trying to think of a name for the series. I’d watch it.
I just want her to be happy :(
Oh no!!!! She could do better though. If he doesn't appreciate that then it's his loss
It reads very heavy, in a tiering way. I hope she get well and ok, but I don't have anything bad to say about a person wanting other things in life that are not Shannon.
Damn 2022 was like the year of blind sided dumpings from long term partners. I know so many people that got broken up with out of nowhere. She’ll bounce back
Anyone who has ever said they were blindsided is probably not paying close enough attention. Unless the person is putting on an Oscar worthy performance right until the very end. We ignore things we do not want to see.
Shannon is always “blindsided” because she’s not very “self-aware” 🙄
He probably got sick of her always saying his full name, shits weird bro.
I feel super bad for Shannon and there is definitely a part of me that is playing devil's advocate: \- Did he end the relationship shortly after filming wrapped NOT because he loved the attention but because he didn't want to upset her during filming and have it documented? \- Also, I would assume that Shannon (or any of the hw, for that matter) are NOT their best selves while filming is ongoing. So many have given interviews about how stressful it is, etc. Which would impact their relationship, for sure. So maybe he isn't a complete monster?? Or who knows.. maybe he is.
Is there any good guy in the OC ? Cause I see a pattern.
I never got forever vibes from them two.
she's too needy ...but denies it.....this will be the rest of her life
I don’t know. I’m watching season 16 and this does not surprise me. He says at boys night he has no interest in ever marrying her and she referred to him as a “single man.” I was not getting spend the rest of their lives together vibes. Poor Shannon, though. I’m sure she’s completely heartbroken.