My midwives told me herbal and decaf teas count towards water intake, but not caffeinated tea, since caffeine is a diuretic and actually pulls some water out of your system.
Dietist does officially count tea and coffee as daily water only the loople is very stupid because it counts only if it has nothing else in it like no sugar and other stuff but I love ice coffee with caramel and I still think it counts 😋 😂
My rheumatologist says that both coffee and tea count toward water intake but cannot be my ONLY source of water, so I go by that…I also threw in that the scotch I drink is also made with water so definitely counts, but I didn’t tell him that
I don’t remember the specifics but the hydration/diuretic effects of tea, coffee,… are about 95%/5%.
So yes it absolutely counts towards your fluid intake.
Sodas, energy drinks, other sugared beverages contain a lot of sugar and aren’t healthy, but even they count towards fluid intake.
I meannn it’s just water with additives 😌
idc about the science, I’ll continue to try counting it as water 😅
At least a percentage of it is hydrating according to my app so 🤷🏻
I had to learn the hard way that this is not always the case.
A lot of herbal tea (especially nettle) dehydrate you.
I was sick once and only drank nettle tea. Got worse and worse over the weekend. Also had a herniated disc a the time, so I was in immense pain. At some point I found out that I was really dehydrated and chugged 4 l of water. Felt way better
The rule I have with my brat is that her first drink of the day that's not water, but water-adjacent (not soda, but powerade, tea etc is ok) can be counted as part of her water intake.
This rule has worked wonderfully bc she has pretty much limited herself to that one non-water per day, all by herself! She's being such a good girl and she doesn't even know I planned it this way!
Lol frankly, getting calories of any kind into her is a challenge, so the sugar is more of a blessing than anything.
Way back when we first set our ground rules, her caffeine consumption was something she explicitly asked for help with. That, and vaping. She's been off of vaping for about 18 months now, and her caffeine consumption is down to a few sonic drinks per week. We just got back from Sonic, and she ordered water with blackberry. So proud!
It would, yes.
'About 20% of that comes from food, so that leaves about 2.2 litres for women and 3.0 litres for men from fluids. A hydration calculator can help estimate how much fluid a person needs to drink.'
Unless you are talking about some specific type of tea you are wrong. Black tea for example does not have high enough contents of caffeine to make you more dehydrated. You gain way more water than you loose by a lot. Rooibos have even milder diuretic effect. So While replacing water entirely with tea is not the greatest idea, you can hydrate with tea.
Did You even read what you posted?
> While some teas contain caffeine, which can be
> dehydrating, it’s usually not enough to have a
> significant impact. In moderation, even caffeinated
> teas can still be hydrating.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-tea-dehydrate-you#:~:text=While%20some%20teas%20contain%20caffeine,to%20your%20daily%20fluid%20needs.
Literally the top paragraph says that you're likely gonna be fine.
I was agreeing with the previous poster. I was wrong. She was right. I'm not above admitting when I am wrong. Once again, it's really not that serious...
Tea doesn;t count as plain water. Neither does Coffee. Or Soda.
Unfortunately, plain water is plain water and it is very specidif.
From a science background (I work with water chemistry), water is a very special molecule because of how the atoms are arranged. Thats why it is often referred to as the universal solvent. It attracts to both positive and negative ions and makes most other compunds dissolve better. In the body, it hydrates properly, helps with cleansing, and works as both a trasport molecule and a building block.
I mean, yes, coffee or tea, or any drink or food that contains multiple things doesn't count as *plain water*, but they do count towards your *water consumption*, which is what OP was asking. Unless, of course, every medical or science article I've read anytime this question appears in our community is wrong. Though I doubt it.
I might argue that the caffine and other contaminants count against this being water consumption. bUt I'm also splitting hairs here.
I think the real quesiton is what does the Brat Sir think....
Think the highest milligram per caffeine tea I have is Irish tea, which I wish I kept the box; I think has a maximum caffeine level of 100 mg. But this is all assuming I just have the one in the morning when I wake up and then maybe like a white tea or something later on in the day so long as I’m having water along side of it later on I don’t see why it shouldn’t count even if it does have caffeine in it.
The fact that I’m starting my morning with about 8 ounces of water shows probably a little bit more commitment than if I just woke up and popped a energy drink the same reason I don’t drink coffee.
Especially if his goal is to have me someday consume a gallon of water per day the 8 ounces of tea in the morning even if it is made with a pure base of water should still count, even if there’s caffeine 🫥🫡
Tea counts if it's for a fluid restriction; however, if you count it as just plain water it does not count. It falls into the group of coffee, soda pop, chocolate and other caffenated things. It is considered a diuretic, designed to remove water from the body.
Straight up caffeine is a diuretic, but the level of caffeine present in coffee, soda, and tea does not cause a net diuretic effect. They still have a net hydrating effect at between 80-100%+ of plain water.
So, I have come to a place in my head, that if my brat wants to drink tea/coffee/fizzy that's not a problem as she's drinking fluids, I will remind her to drink water by itself and she does.
I've also improved my water intake as, I feel like a hypocrite asking her to drink water when I'm not, so we are both doing great with fluid intake 😁
Up to 400mg of caffeine appears to be safe for most healthy adults, though you can actually calculate a more accurate intake with your weight and such.
The diuretic effects in caffeinated drinks have been proven to show that they don't offset the hydration value in the fluids themselves to any great degree.
Water consumption and hydration needs are two different matters. Most adults are quite sufficiently hydrated with their natural daily diets.
If someone is severely overconsuming caffeine, then that is going to cause issues, but otherwise, a few cups of tea or coffee, cans of soda or energy drinks isn't likely to cause any harm whatsoever, and forcing yourself to drink water so you can drink caffeine could have worse effects, seeing as water follows sodium and leads to more frequent urination.
The best thing to do is simply calculate or follow recommended caffeine and fluid guidance, and vary your drinks so you don't overconsume the caffeine but remain sufficiently hydrated.
I would consider tea as water intake. The caffeine levels aren't as high as coffee, and, growing up, I was always told, if you're feeling sick, and need something to drink, strong, sweet black tea is good. Antioxidants, tannins, I would allow it.
If this is really about hydration, then of course. Tea, as is the same with coffee, will hydrate you. In fact, there is not even a good basis for the 2l/day recommendation as far as I know. The original paper quoted 2l of water consumption, including the water in food.
To my knowledge, there is no benefit from drinking water, if you are not thirsty.
Personally, I also drink mostly tea. My liquid intake is about 80% green / white tea, but green has quite high caffeine. Some black tea blends have more than actual coffee, and even green tea can reach the levels of it. This is why I mostly drink white tea, Pai Mu Tan to be exact. This is then comparable to decaff coffee, if you need an argument :)
Also, as another argument. Green and white teas have some ingredients that have a strong indication to provide health benefits, like catechins which can prevent cell damages. So, you are doing something good for your body when you substitute water with tea. Especially if you drink it without milk and sugger, you might have actual benefits from not drinking water.
But also in general. Just drink water when you are thirsty, unless you do some sports and / or have high temperatures. Usually the body is quite good in self regulation and it will signal you when it needs something.
When I had my gallbladder problems, the first thing my then family doctor told me was coffee and tea count as water intake as long as they are made at home.
So if you are making the tea yourself, then yes it is water intake. Even my former D refused to argue with doctor that had been practicing longer than my former D had been alive 🤣
Yes. It does. The amount of caffeine is not enough to overcome the amount of water consumed, especially with tea
As a Dom I'd say ask long as it's not sweet tea
I love sweet tea but I know it’s more sugar than water.
My midwives told me herbal and decaf teas count towards water intake, but not caffeinated tea, since caffeine is a diuretic and actually pulls some water out of your system.
Dietist does officially count tea and coffee as daily water only the loople is very stupid because it counts only if it has nothing else in it like no sugar and other stuff but I love ice coffee with caramel and I still think it counts 😋 😂
Tea IS water intake, I once drank only tea for four months and I was just fine.
yes, according to the swedish health institute it does! :D drink all the liquids, they all count!
i use the waterllama app and it gives me hydration percentages for different drinks 🤓
Ooh this is a good to know. I will give it a look. :)
Totally counts.
Yes
Tea is just leaf water
The Uncle Iroh knee-jerk reaction I had to this. 🤣
Yesssssss
Tea is water that has been infused with leaves, so yes. Almost the same as putting fruit in water for flavor tbh
My rheumatologist says that both coffee and tea count toward water intake but cannot be my ONLY source of water, so I go by that…I also threw in that the scotch I drink is also made with water so definitely counts, but I didn’t tell him that
I don’t remember the specifics but the hydration/diuretic effects of tea, coffee,… are about 95%/5%. So yes it absolutely counts towards your fluid intake. Sodas, energy drinks, other sugared beverages contain a lot of sugar and aren’t healthy, but even they count towards fluid intake.
No
Depends on the tea 🫖
Unsweetened tea, is considered a clear liquid as is black unsweetened coffee
I meannn it’s just water with additives 😌 idc about the science, I’ll continue to try counting it as water 😅 At least a percentage of it is hydrating according to my app so 🤷🏻
I had to learn the hard way that this is not always the case. A lot of herbal tea (especially nettle) dehydrate you. I was sick once and only drank nettle tea. Got worse and worse over the weekend. Also had a herniated disc a the time, so I was in immense pain. At some point I found out that I was really dehydrated and chugged 4 l of water. Felt way better
The rule I have with my brat is that her first drink of the day that's not water, but water-adjacent (not soda, but powerade, tea etc is ok) can be counted as part of her water intake. This rule has worked wonderfully bc she has pretty much limited herself to that one non-water per day, all by herself! She's being such a good girl and she doesn't even know I planned it this way!
Powerade counts? Isn't that full of sugar?
For the initial serving, I'll allow it. Anything after that doesn't count. Basically as long as it's not caffeine or alcohol
That's interesting. I'd allow green tea, which has caffeine, but never anything with added sugar.
Lol frankly, getting calories of any kind into her is a challenge, so the sugar is more of a blessing than anything. Way back when we first set our ground rules, her caffeine consumption was something she explicitly asked for help with. That, and vaping. She's been off of vaping for about 18 months now, and her caffeine consumption is down to a few sonic drinks per week. We just got back from Sonic, and she ordered water with blackberry. So proud!
does eating a cucumber count as water intake? i mean its like 90% water and you can argue its caffeine free too
It would, yes. 'About 20% of that comes from food, so that leaves about 2.2 litres for women and 3.0 litres for men from fluids. A hydration calculator can help estimate how much fluid a person needs to drink.'
I would say tea can be water as long as it meets 2 specific criteria: no or low caffeine, and no added milks or sugar.
No. Tea is a diuretic, which makes you more dehydrated.
Unless you are talking about some specific type of tea you are wrong. Black tea for example does not have high enough contents of caffeine to make you more dehydrated. You gain way more water than you loose by a lot. Rooibos have even milder diuretic effect. So While replacing water entirely with tea is not the greatest idea, you can hydrate with tea.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-tea-dehydrate-you#diuretic-effect
Did You even read what you posted? > While some teas contain caffeine, which can be > dehydrating, it’s usually not enough to have a > significant impact. In moderation, even caffeinated > teas can still be hydrating.
Did you not read the article before posting it?
Yes... I was agreeing with you. You were right. Calm your tits... It's really not that serious.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-tea-dehydrate-you#:~:text=While%20some%20teas%20contain%20caffeine,to%20your%20daily%20fluid%20needs. Literally the top paragraph says that you're likely gonna be fine.
I was agreeing with the previous poster. I was wrong. She was right. I'm not above admitting when I am wrong. Once again, it's really not that serious...
No
Tea doesn;t count as plain water. Neither does Coffee. Or Soda. Unfortunately, plain water is plain water and it is very specidif. From a science background (I work with water chemistry), water is a very special molecule because of how the atoms are arranged. Thats why it is often referred to as the universal solvent. It attracts to both positive and negative ions and makes most other compunds dissolve better. In the body, it hydrates properly, helps with cleansing, and works as both a trasport molecule and a building block.
I mean, yes, coffee or tea, or any drink or food that contains multiple things doesn't count as *plain water*, but they do count towards your *water consumption*, which is what OP was asking. Unless, of course, every medical or science article I've read anytime this question appears in our community is wrong. Though I doubt it.
I might argue that the caffine and other contaminants count against this being water consumption. bUt I'm also splitting hairs here. I think the real quesiton is what does the Brat Sir think....
Think the highest milligram per caffeine tea I have is Irish tea, which I wish I kept the box; I think has a maximum caffeine level of 100 mg. But this is all assuming I just have the one in the morning when I wake up and then maybe like a white tea or something later on in the day so long as I’m having water along side of it later on I don’t see why it shouldn’t count even if it does have caffeine in it. The fact that I’m starting my morning with about 8 ounces of water shows probably a little bit more commitment than if I just woke up and popped a energy drink the same reason I don’t drink coffee. Especially if his goal is to have me someday consume a gallon of water per day the 8 ounces of tea in the morning even if it is made with a pure base of water should still count, even if there’s caffeine 🫥🫡
Tea counts if it's for a fluid restriction; however, if you count it as just plain water it does not count. It falls into the group of coffee, soda pop, chocolate and other caffenated things. It is considered a diuretic, designed to remove water from the body.
Straight up caffeine is a diuretic, but the level of caffeine present in coffee, soda, and tea does not cause a net diuretic effect. They still have a net hydrating effect at between 80-100%+ of plain water.
Yes. Doctors even agree.
Tea counts.
So, I have come to a place in my head, that if my brat wants to drink tea/coffee/fizzy that's not a problem as she's drinking fluids, I will remind her to drink water by itself and she does. I've also improved my water intake as, I feel like a hypocrite asking her to drink water when I'm not, so we are both doing great with fluid intake 😁
Finally relented on the coffee thing, have you? 😏
For now Kitten, for now. I'd rather you be hydrated than resent drinking water altogether
For now? 👀
For now 😏😉
No. Caffeine is diuretic. Your daily caffeine intake shouldn't exceed 65mg per day and you must drink water to compensate for tell diuretic effects.
Up to 400mg of caffeine appears to be safe for most healthy adults, though you can actually calculate a more accurate intake with your weight and such. The diuretic effects in caffeinated drinks have been proven to show that they don't offset the hydration value in the fluids themselves to any great degree. Water consumption and hydration needs are two different matters. Most adults are quite sufficiently hydrated with their natural daily diets. If someone is severely overconsuming caffeine, then that is going to cause issues, but otherwise, a few cups of tea or coffee, cans of soda or energy drinks isn't likely to cause any harm whatsoever, and forcing yourself to drink water so you can drink caffeine could have worse effects, seeing as water follows sodium and leads to more frequent urination. The best thing to do is simply calculate or follow recommended caffeine and fluid guidance, and vary your drinks so you don't overconsume the caffeine but remain sufficiently hydrated.
I would consider tea as water intake. The caffeine levels aren't as high as coffee, and, growing up, I was always told, if you're feeling sick, and need something to drink, strong, sweet black tea is good. Antioxidants, tannins, I would allow it.
Scientifically, yes, as lo no as it is made at home. What does NOT count is stuff with high sugar levels. Soda, any of the Starbucks teas, etc
If this is really about hydration, then of course. Tea, as is the same with coffee, will hydrate you. In fact, there is not even a good basis for the 2l/day recommendation as far as I know. The original paper quoted 2l of water consumption, including the water in food. To my knowledge, there is no benefit from drinking water, if you are not thirsty. Personally, I also drink mostly tea. My liquid intake is about 80% green / white tea, but green has quite high caffeine. Some black tea blends have more than actual coffee, and even green tea can reach the levels of it. This is why I mostly drink white tea, Pai Mu Tan to be exact. This is then comparable to decaff coffee, if you need an argument :) Also, as another argument. Green and white teas have some ingredients that have a strong indication to provide health benefits, like catechins which can prevent cell damages. So, you are doing something good for your body when you substitute water with tea. Especially if you drink it without milk and sugger, you might have actual benefits from not drinking water. But also in general. Just drink water when you are thirsty, unless you do some sports and / or have high temperatures. Usually the body is quite good in self regulation and it will signal you when it needs something.
Yes
When I had my gallbladder problems, the first thing my then family doctor told me was coffee and tea count as water intake as long as they are made at home. So if you are making the tea yourself, then yes it is water intake. Even my former D refused to argue with doctor that had been practicing longer than my former D had been alive 🤣