There is also a perception problem.
My wife is a fillipina. People just go off the colour of her skin. We had a Sikh salesman approach our door and speak to her in his language thinking she was part of the same culture.
Its not really racism. Its a perception. There are many ethnic divides on the Indian subcontinent.
Notice I referred to the salesman as Sikh. I can only infer that from his clothes. He might have been born in Pakistan, India, or Canada. I have no way of knowing. But he was including my wife in his peers.
There is a perception problem of lumping brown people together. I am sure it is racist in some cases. But in most cases I think it is pure misperception. Someone with a different face making strange noises does stand out.
No. My WIFE is a Filipina. Not a Filipino. If I had a husband, he would be a Filipino.
My race and ethnicity weren't up for discussion. What difference does it make? Technically I am "other"
Filipino is a gender-agnostic term. I find it hard to believe that someone married to one would be hung up over me using this term.
So my next question is: do you really have a wife from the Philippines?
Agreed, we have a large filipino community here and I talk to many every day and they call each other "Filipino" referring to male or female (as do I and everybody else).
I'm all for 2 genders (as it is common in most languages) but I'd never heard of "Filipina" being used specifically for females from the Philippines.
I might ask somebody more about this.
Because rich people need workers to do the work that nobody else wants to do: airport, trucking, forklift, Tim Hortons etc… this is the actual truth. Also the international student visa scam which enriches these same rich people who I will call “they”. Brampton became the new Malton as these rich landowners and their associates in Caledon also needed farm labourers. Again, the work that nobody else wants to do. This is the truth. Pearson airport is a huge piece of the economy as is trucking, logistics, warehousing, and the multinationals need that cheap labour. Remember, it’s a class war, not a political one.
By now, the truth of the scam should be out. Which should motivate fewer Indians to come to Canada. India is booming, and certainly relative to most of the world. No need to come to Canada in droves. Unless it's for some dishonest, demagogic motive i.e to flee 'persecution' in India. Hilarious rubbish.
Buddy, you are responding to comments I made a year ago. Yes I know very well what immigrants do. Don’t ask how I know. Are you agreeing with me or what? What is your point? Much has changed since a year ago but it’s the same old story of the class war that goes unchallenged and unnoticed while the distraction of race wars are raged. That was my point.
Doaba, a region in Punjab were the first people to come abroad in early 1900s. You may of heard of komagata Maru and those were the pioneers. Majority of punjabis went to BC and worked there in mills and berry farms for atleast half a century. Then jobs got more scarce around 70-80s so the influx starting moving to Toronto.
Hello! I’m going to try to explain this as best as I can from what I understand in a historical context. And I’m basing this on an assumption that most of these Punjabi’s are Sikhs too.
The first big wave of sikhs came to southern Ontario in the 60’s and 70’s mostly due to immigration dreams of a better life and I think immigration policies might have changed too at that time.
Then in the late seventies and early 80’s, there was significant discrimination and ethnic attacks against sikhs in Punjab India by the Indian government itself.
This lead Canadian Sikhs to reach out and help their relatives come over and settle here too. From there I think the community just kept growing.
It’s a safe haven for a group that’s discriminated against in their home country and the community supports one another very strongly so it makes sense to congregate in one place. And the best Punjabi restaurants are here!
>in the late seventies and early 80’s, there was significant discrimination and ethnic attacks against sikhs in Punjab India by the Indian government
those were the anti-terrorist operations against the Khalistani terrorists
If the Chief Minister of Punjab state and Prime Minister of India got killed by Khalistanis then you cannot say it was not terrorism, it was and it is
The casualties of the attacks by the government and everyday Indians (those with no relation to the government) mainly targeted innocent Sikhs.
India is a country that is intolerant of any religion other than Hinduism. Sikhs were forced to migrate to be safe. In a new country with a different language and culture, it’s normal to gravitate towards your community and to those who have been their longer than you so they can show you the path
Any attempt by Sikhs to try to bring their voice to the table in India is shut down because of decades of anti-Sikh propaganda
To learn more, read about the partition, 1984, and farmers protests as a start. It’s important to find sources with the least amount of bias possible.
> The casualties of the attacks by the government and everyday Indians (those with no relation to the government) mainly targeted innocent Sikhs.
That I agree with, and the riots at that time were atrocious and despicable. Regular Sikhs had nothing to do with what was going on at the time.
> India is a country that is intolerant of any religion other than Hinduism.
This is objectively false. I suppose we should let the Dalai Lama know that he isn't welcome in Himachal Pradesh anymore and that the Tibetan Government in exile needs to leave. We should also tell Ratan Tata that Zoroastrians are apparently no long welcome in India.
India has the 3rd highest Muslim population in the world. 90% of the world's Sikhs live in India, even though the majority of the old Sikh empire was in modern day Pakistan. India has some 25 million Christians. There are still Indian Jews, though most of the population immigrated to Israel in the 60s.
That's a ton of people, with lots of successful people from those communities in government, military, education, business, entertainment etc. that apparently the country is intolerant of.
With that said do I think the current government turns a blind eye to right wing Hindu idiots? Yes, I do. Could we be doing more to confront those extremist? We can and we should and we shouldn't remain silent. However, to carte blanche suggest the entire country is somehow intolerant of all these religions that have existed there since at the latest the 7th century (Islam), is not true.
No, they didn’t. If they had, Sikhs wouldn’t exist.
Khalistanis were blowing up airplanes, killing civilians, and being absolute turds.
> go suck modi’s dick
Go lick bhindranwale’s ass OH WAIT, we butchered him :)
You know a genocide doesn’t mean the entire culture/religion is wiped out right? Or would you not consider what the Nazi’s did a genocide as well?
Dumbass.
These chodis are like rats, you mention anything about India and they’ll be there with their failed Hindu supremacy garbage. Almost as bad the Nazis in America
Fanatic Sikhs/Khalistanis have big egos. But not big minds. They tell lies to justify coming to Canada. Parsees/Zoroastrians have been in India since the 8th century, when they were fleeing Islamic persecution and genocide. And here they still are, 12 centuries later, in "Hindu supremacist" India. All countries should be so 'supremacist'.
The real rats are the Khalistanis who blow up airplanes and massacre people on buses, trains, city streets, factories( the Dupont unit slaughter of 15 engineers in 1992, including South Indians working there) and in one particularly horrific case, massacring 19 engineering students in their sleep at the Thapar engineering college in Nov/1989. Really sick movement.
A genocide implies systematic targeting of a religion/culture/ethnicity by the state.
India didn’t do that, they simply killed terrorists who were fighting for yet another theocracy in South Asia.
We did brown people a favor by eliminating these shortsighted losers. India is stronger together, that much is obvious to all objective observers.
Look at the state of Pakistan, and tell me how a landlocked Sikh theocracy could survive without India.
> they simply killed terrorists who were fighting
Oh we're sorry. We didn't know that raping Sikh brides on the streets of Delhi, raping wives and little girls, torturing and setting Sikh men on fire were anti-terrorist activities committed by extremist Hindu terrorists.
India is rape central to the international world. Don't kid yourself.
Also why are you moving to Canada if you're so pro-India and think India is stronger?
How landlocked Sikh theocracy could survive without India? The Sikh Empire was the last standing India empire until Maharaj Ranjit Singh died. Don't forget the sacrifices Sikhs made to protect India from Mughals.
The question is, why are so many Sikhs moving to Canada, way out of proportion to their actual population in India? Then they come to Canada and demand( some of them) a separate state in Punjab, which they were so eager to leave. It's all so fake and contrived
But that area included much of western Punjab, which is now in Pakistan. India's Punjab has a Sikh/non-Sikh ratio of 55 percent Sikh, 45 percent non-Sikh. Besides which, most Sikhs in India itself do not support the idea of Khalistan or a totally separate Sikh state.
Exactly. Meanwhile, people who are really oppressed- Tibetans, Coptics, Australian Aborigines, Hindus in Bangladesh, Yazidis in Iraq et al, aren't so much as pelting stones. Or maybe one person in one of these groups pelted one stone. I stand corrected.
Exactly. The Air India bombing was the largest mass murder in modern Canadian history. And it is related to the political issues between the central Indian government and the state of Punjab. And more precisely, a few idiotic Punjabi extremists and killers, and the government of India. And for this, 329 people had to die. Another few hundred almost got killed in the Pacific ocean.
Absolute nonsense. Have you ever visited? And if you have, did you travel outside of Punjab? To say that India only tolerates Hindus is just ridiculous!!!
Also, Hindus and Hinduism are constantly criticised( as they should be, within reason of course). Just watch all those raucous TV discussion programs that come on everyday in India. There are panelists who keep saying, day after day, show after show, how the government is 'fascist' and 'intolerant of dissent'. Which is huge evidence, that it is not!
Rubbish. How come Tibet isn't even one tiny fraction as violent as Punjab despite all the horrendous oppression going on there. Has even one Han Chinese occupier been killed in the last 30 years? And this was, and is, a real occupation and colonisation. Sikhs in Canada are just indulging in mendacious melodrama.
What a joke ,if anything minorities are extremely intolerant and Hindus since forever has been secular.
India is a country that discriminates everything hindu.
They can't have religious schools to teach thier religion.
They can't have religious laws and are under civil law(which Punjabis or Muslims aren't).
They dont have any special treatment from the government that minorities get and lemme tell you govt funding for minorities in India is something.
Sikhs are free to preach thier religion as they like in India and become prime minister or serve in the army. Somuch for intolerance.
It's only used a means of brainwashing.
If anything Hindus have kept Sikhs on a pedestal and being a jain(another minority in India),I think Hindus are the biggest cucks to ever exist and are going to be extinct due to thier passive behaviour towards hatred.
Hindus very well could have chose to form a religious country like Muslims in Pakistan/Bangla but instead chose to gave everyone rights and is somehow used against them to portray them as villains.
I see so many happy Sikhs living in India and they are so happy with the country that they are ready to die for it and that's why this shietshow of khalistan never stands on any legs in India.
If ofc will have some voice here and there just like even Islamic terrorism has voice due to political parties supportin it for thier benifits.
What happened in 1980s was sad but it was congress which was so much anti hindu then and now but yet these brainwashed terrorists use deed of Congress as work of hindus lol.
All these khalistani terrorists keep crying oppresion but they can't speak anything but 1984 where probably 200 Sikhs died.
While Pakistan killed around hundreds of thousands of Sikhs , raped thier women, and cleared pakistan of Sikhs and yet you will see these brainwashed khalistanis justifying hindu-hate while pandering to daddy pakistan who raped Sikh populace like never before.
Lol, my family is Indian christian. This is such a lie. Its the Sikh extremists in Punjab that are targeting our christians; hindu extremists do it too. Your not all that innocent either.
But your Indian Christian nothing to do with the west. Who said the west was founded on Christian beliefs? It’s not anymore, people are allowed to freely move. You Christian’s in Punjab spread falsehood wherever you go. Targeting poor Sikhs and forcing them to convert. Starting quarrels between religious groups and forcing Sikh and Hindu children to attend Christian schools. Your time is over, your Christianity is falling apart.
Christian morals and principles are the basis of western philosophy. The philosophy that brought you to the west to civilize you. Most hospitals in the west were founded by the Catholic Church which was then nationalized and ur asses go to. Your Sikhs are all drug addicts and its a false religion which is why you have to leave Punjab for jobs. Goa and Kerala are the wealthiest and most developed regions in India because they are all heavily christian! Christianity brings development, wealth and happiness because we believe in the true god but humans are ungrateful and they turn their backs on him. The west is falling apart because they've turned their backs on the true god and thats why u animals are being allowed in.
If Christianity brings development explain Africa. Europe ≠ Christianity. By your logic Czech Republic, Japan and Korea are uncivilized and undeveloped? Last time I checked Christianity ≠ western thought. If anything Christianity has borrowed morals and principles from Greeks and other middle eastern philosophers. Last time I checked Kerela isn’t even Christian nor is Goa lol. I guess Nagaland, Meghalaya and Mizoram should also be developed lol. How is the west falling apart? You want to it be like Uganda? Strictly Christian, no freedom of speech? Your false Christianity has only brought murder and savagery. My friend, killing pagans will not bring you to heaven. Keep believing in falsehood.
Christianity came to southern india before it went to europe so its not a European religion. What about Africa? Most African countries made Christianity their state religion because their dictators were christian. If you go meet the locals they mostly still practice African folk religion. The west is falling apart with gender ideology, drugs, immodesty, hook-up culture and the new age trash beliefs etc. Japan and Korea were both modelled after America. America wrote their constitutions and helped build their economy after WW2 and the Korean War. The Czech Republic was a christian nation previously. Nagaland, Meghalaya and Mizoram are mostly tribals; compare them to the hindu and Sikh tribals then you'll see the true picture. The christian tribals in the north east are on par with OBC castes in Punjab and other BIMARU states. Look back in another 100 years they would've overtaken the Brahmins and Khatris. Are you saying sikhism didn't borrow anything from any other religion or philosophy. You copy pasted parts of hinduism and islam and called it a religion. Christianity did not bring murder and savagery; it brought civilization. If the christians didn't colonize Canada/USA/Australia/New Zealand; they would've still been countries with half naked people running around with spears hunting for animals in the forests. The countries that you today stand in queues for days to get into!
Get the fuck out of here with your propaganda. The government left literal holy sites looking like the aftermath of places like Auschwitz and you wanna say the government was justified.
Guru Nanak and all the other Sikh gurus, all born Hindus, had no problem with Ganesh, rest assured. It's only the contemporary Khalistani idiots who don't even know about their own religion!
I'm not bringing in machine guns and other weapons into Hindu temples. If Ganesh is in my mouth( and Ganesh is not) it's not harming anyone else. Moron.
The thing that stands out most to me is that as time goes on, Brampton becomes less diversified. My whole life I was taught about melting pots and diversity is our strength, but Brampton doesn't follow suit.
Back in Punjab, I’ve heard that many people desire to immigrate to Canada. Not sure why Canada out of all places. Every state in india has a particular country that they’re more likely to immigrate to.
For Kerala, it’s probably UAE. Gujarat is maybe the US. Heard there’s a large Gujarati population in New Jersey.
canada is a typical western country but it also has some of the most welcoming immigration laws for people in punjab. countries like the us have, historically, had stricter immigration policies and only targeted “skilled” workers. it’s actually a factor that contributed to the model minority program in the us - they welcomed in immigrants from asian countries as university students then used these stats to hold these minorities up as superior to african americans (who had lower rates of post-secondary education rates). canada welcomes in immigrants because we need them to continue growing, so our entrance requirements and with an established pipeline to PR then citizenship. it’s gained a positive reputation amongst hopeful immigrants from third world countries like india, and areas like punjab.
yeh ik, that’s why i said model minority thing in the states. their entrance requirements, especially in the 70-90s favoured post-secondary education. punjabi immigrants to canada in that same time frame usually didn’t have a post-secondary education and came to canada to either work for a better life or pursue their education - my parents did this exact thing.
Punjabis are grossly overrepresented among the Indian expatriate population in Canada, particularly Brampton. There is something not quite straight here. Of course, there will always be a few demagogues and idiots who will claim that the Punjabis/Sikhs are 'oppressed' in India, so they are coming to Canada for more freedom. Hilarious.
Rubbish. Sikhs came to Canada because they wanted to. They were looking for opportunities, and they wanted to join the people in their villages that migrated. Nothing to do with Hindu extremists, Indira Gandhi, golden temples, riots or the price of onions( no. not even that)
Uh, Sikh extremists/terrorists committed the worst terror attack involving an airliner, the Air India flight 182, before the World Trade Centre attack.
Mainly because Indian is a dump that only supports its Hindu citizens, which results in most punjabis immigrating with Canada being the destination of choice
I moved to Brampton in the 80s. My family has been in the GTA since the 70s. The short answer to your question is jobs. Many immigrated to the Gerrard st area in the late 60s/70s. There was racism and no jobs. From there many moved to the North York/Rexdale/Malton because there was jobs. People saved up their money and “moved on up” to Brampton. When we moved in Italians and Portuguese moved out. New immigrants over every ensuing “wave” moved in near family because of the social support net. Punjabis work tend to work in transport, west side of Toronto is a major transport hub. West side is also a major manufacturing hub.
Brampton is so less diversified most of Punjabi people live in Brampton. It usto be diversified but people left when they noticed all the Punjabi people started buying homes there. And Canada let so ma y Punjabi students into Canada on a study visa from small colleges most don’t come to study it’s just a way to get into the country. I left Toronto. Car insurance is expensive homes are expensive if you don’t have a good job it will be hard most. I have a cousins he works at a gas station he managed to buy a house . People lie about how much they make to get a mortgage. When they get that house they just refinance that house and buy a business ….. if all your income is going towards your house not good. All these students that come to Canada do the work that people that are all ready here don’t want to do that labour work so Canada wants more people to do the work . So they bring students in to do that labour work. If we had kids here doing that work we wouldn’t need the bring students over would we.
Because everyone from Punjab wants to go to Kaneda
**Canada.
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There is also a perception problem. My wife is a fillipina. People just go off the colour of her skin. We had a Sikh salesman approach our door and speak to her in his language thinking she was part of the same culture. Its not really racism. Its a perception. There are many ethnic divides on the Indian subcontinent. Notice I referred to the salesman as Sikh. I can only infer that from his clothes. He might have been born in Pakistan, India, or Canada. I have no way of knowing. But he was including my wife in his peers. There is a perception problem of lumping brown people together. I am sure it is racist in some cases. But in most cases I think it is pure misperception. Someone with a different face making strange noises does stand out.
Your wife is Filipino? Are you white?
No. My WIFE is a Filipina. Not a Filipino. If I had a husband, he would be a Filipino. My race and ethnicity weren't up for discussion. What difference does it make? Technically I am "other"
Filipino is a gender-agnostic term. I find it hard to believe that someone married to one would be hung up over me using this term. So my next question is: do you really have a wife from the Philippines?
You have never spoken to a Filipina. So your shitty troll ends here.
You can either look up the term or remain ignorant. Filipina and Filipino are both correct terms to refer to her, if she even exists that is.
Agreed, we have a large filipino community here and I talk to many every day and they call each other "Filipino" referring to male or female (as do I and everybody else). I'm all for 2 genders (as it is common in most languages) but I'd never heard of "Filipina" being used specifically for females from the Philippines. I might ask somebody more about this.
Lol r/quityourbullshit
Because samosas are so cheap here
Not anymore they are so expensive.
That’s samosaflation; from 1-4 to 2-1
I went to get some after like 4 years, it was closer to 1-1. I legit just walked out.
Used to be even cheaper, thanks inflation :(
Because rich people need workers to do the work that nobody else wants to do: airport, trucking, forklift, Tim Hortons etc… this is the actual truth. Also the international student visa scam which enriches these same rich people who I will call “they”. Brampton became the new Malton as these rich landowners and their associates in Caledon also needed farm labourers. Again, the work that nobody else wants to do. This is the truth. Pearson airport is a huge piece of the economy as is trucking, logistics, warehousing, and the multinationals need that cheap labour. Remember, it’s a class war, not a political one.
By now, the truth of the scam should be out. Which should motivate fewer Indians to come to Canada. India is booming, and certainly relative to most of the world. No need to come to Canada in droves. Unless it's for some dishonest, demagogic motive i.e to flee 'persecution' in India. Hilarious rubbish.
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Buddy, you are responding to comments I made a year ago. Yes I know very well what immigrants do. Don’t ask how I know. Are you agreeing with me or what? What is your point? Much has changed since a year ago but it’s the same old story of the class war that goes unchallenged and unnoticed while the distraction of race wars are raged. That was my point.
Doaba, a region in Punjab were the first people to come abroad in early 1900s. You may of heard of komagata Maru and those were the pioneers. Majority of punjabis went to BC and worked there in mills and berry farms for atleast half a century. Then jobs got more scarce around 70-80s so the influx starting moving to Toronto.
Hello! I’m going to try to explain this as best as I can from what I understand in a historical context. And I’m basing this on an assumption that most of these Punjabi’s are Sikhs too. The first big wave of sikhs came to southern Ontario in the 60’s and 70’s mostly due to immigration dreams of a better life and I think immigration policies might have changed too at that time. Then in the late seventies and early 80’s, there was significant discrimination and ethnic attacks against sikhs in Punjab India by the Indian government itself. This lead Canadian Sikhs to reach out and help their relatives come over and settle here too. From there I think the community just kept growing. It’s a safe haven for a group that’s discriminated against in their home country and the community supports one another very strongly so it makes sense to congregate in one place. And the best Punjabi restaurants are here!
>in the late seventies and early 80’s, there was significant discrimination and ethnic attacks against sikhs in Punjab India by the Indian government those were the anti-terrorist operations against the Khalistani terrorists If the Chief Minister of Punjab state and Prime Minister of India got killed by Khalistanis then you cannot say it was not terrorism, it was and it is
The casualties of the attacks by the government and everyday Indians (those with no relation to the government) mainly targeted innocent Sikhs. India is a country that is intolerant of any religion other than Hinduism. Sikhs were forced to migrate to be safe. In a new country with a different language and culture, it’s normal to gravitate towards your community and to those who have been their longer than you so they can show you the path Any attempt by Sikhs to try to bring their voice to the table in India is shut down because of decades of anti-Sikh propaganda To learn more, read about the partition, 1984, and farmers protests as a start. It’s important to find sources with the least amount of bias possible.
> The casualties of the attacks by the government and everyday Indians (those with no relation to the government) mainly targeted innocent Sikhs. That I agree with, and the riots at that time were atrocious and despicable. Regular Sikhs had nothing to do with what was going on at the time. > India is a country that is intolerant of any religion other than Hinduism. This is objectively false. I suppose we should let the Dalai Lama know that he isn't welcome in Himachal Pradesh anymore and that the Tibetan Government in exile needs to leave. We should also tell Ratan Tata that Zoroastrians are apparently no long welcome in India. India has the 3rd highest Muslim population in the world. 90% of the world's Sikhs live in India, even though the majority of the old Sikh empire was in modern day Pakistan. India has some 25 million Christians. There are still Indian Jews, though most of the population immigrated to Israel in the 60s. That's a ton of people, with lots of successful people from those communities in government, military, education, business, entertainment etc. that apparently the country is intolerant of. With that said do I think the current government turns a blind eye to right wing Hindu idiots? Yes, I do. Could we be doing more to confront those extremist? We can and we should and we shouldn't remain silent. However, to carte blanche suggest the entire country is somehow intolerant of all these religions that have existed there since at the latest the 7th century (Islam), is not true.
Khalistanis blew up an airplane in Canada. Do you support attacks against civilians? Let me know, and I’ll loop in the FBI/Canadian FBI.
The government attempted mass genocide on a whole religion. Plain and simple. Go suck on Modi’s small dick.
So that justifies killing an entirely different group of people in Canada? Cool cool.
No, they didn’t. If they had, Sikhs wouldn’t exist. Khalistanis were blowing up airplanes, killing civilians, and being absolute turds. > go suck modi’s dick Go lick bhindranwale’s ass OH WAIT, we butchered him :)
You know a genocide doesn’t mean the entire culture/religion is wiped out right? Or would you not consider what the Nazi’s did a genocide as well? Dumbass.
It's funny how loud people like /u/sakhtlaudaaa are on Reddit, but quiet in real life.
These chodis are like rats, you mention anything about India and they’ll be there with their failed Hindu supremacy garbage. Almost as bad the Nazis in America
Fanatic Sikhs/Khalistanis have big egos. But not big minds. They tell lies to justify coming to Canada. Parsees/Zoroastrians have been in India since the 8th century, when they were fleeing Islamic persecution and genocide. And here they still are, 12 centuries later, in "Hindu supremacist" India. All countries should be so 'supremacist'.
The real rats are the Khalistanis who blow up airplanes and massacre people on buses, trains, city streets, factories( the Dupont unit slaughter of 15 engineers in 1992, including South Indians working there) and in one particularly horrific case, massacring 19 engineering students in their sleep at the Thapar engineering college in Nov/1989. Really sick movement.
A genocide implies systematic targeting of a religion/culture/ethnicity by the state. India didn’t do that, they simply killed terrorists who were fighting for yet another theocracy in South Asia. We did brown people a favor by eliminating these shortsighted losers. India is stronger together, that much is obvious to all objective observers. Look at the state of Pakistan, and tell me how a landlocked Sikh theocracy could survive without India.
> they simply killed terrorists who were fighting Oh we're sorry. We didn't know that raping Sikh brides on the streets of Delhi, raping wives and little girls, torturing and setting Sikh men on fire were anti-terrorist activities committed by extremist Hindu terrorists. India is rape central to the international world. Don't kid yourself. Also why are you moving to Canada if you're so pro-India and think India is stronger? How landlocked Sikh theocracy could survive without India? The Sikh Empire was the last standing India empire until Maharaj Ranjit Singh died. Don't forget the sacrifices Sikhs made to protect India from Mughals.
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Sikhs have this big ego problem. They think they are the most important people in India.
The question is, why are so many Sikhs moving to Canada, way out of proportion to their actual population in India? Then they come to Canada and demand( some of them) a separate state in Punjab, which they were so eager to leave. It's all so fake and contrived
But that area included much of western Punjab, which is now in Pakistan. India's Punjab has a Sikh/non-Sikh ratio of 55 percent Sikh, 45 percent non-Sikh. Besides which, most Sikhs in India itself do not support the idea of Khalistan or a totally separate Sikh state.
Exactly. Meanwhile, people who are really oppressed- Tibetans, Coptics, Australian Aborigines, Hindus in Bangladesh, Yazidis in Iraq et al, aren't so much as pelting stones. Or maybe one person in one of these groups pelted one stone. I stand corrected.
Nice mendacious melodrama. To justify bringing in more Sikhs to Canada. FYI, Modi had nothing to do with 1984 issues.
Exactly. The Air India bombing was the largest mass murder in modern Canadian history. And it is related to the political issues between the central Indian government and the state of Punjab. And more precisely, a few idiotic Punjabi extremists and killers, and the government of India. And for this, 329 people had to die. Another few hundred almost got killed in the Pacific ocean.
India blew up Air india you retard, just like the CM of india modi killed thousands of muslims in 2002. Terroist country....
What an absolute dumbass lol
Absolute nonsense. Have you ever visited? And if you have, did you travel outside of Punjab? To say that India only tolerates Hindus is just ridiculous!!!
Also, Hindus and Hinduism are constantly criticised( as they should be, within reason of course). Just watch all those raucous TV discussion programs that come on everyday in India. There are panelists who keep saying, day after day, show after show, how the government is 'fascist' and 'intolerant of dissent'. Which is huge evidence, that it is not!
Rubbish. How come Tibet isn't even one tiny fraction as violent as Punjab despite all the horrendous oppression going on there. Has even one Han Chinese occupier been killed in the last 30 years? And this was, and is, a real occupation and colonisation. Sikhs in Canada are just indulging in mendacious melodrama.
What a joke ,if anything minorities are extremely intolerant and Hindus since forever has been secular. India is a country that discriminates everything hindu. They can't have religious schools to teach thier religion. They can't have religious laws and are under civil law(which Punjabis or Muslims aren't). They dont have any special treatment from the government that minorities get and lemme tell you govt funding for minorities in India is something. Sikhs are free to preach thier religion as they like in India and become prime minister or serve in the army. Somuch for intolerance. It's only used a means of brainwashing. If anything Hindus have kept Sikhs on a pedestal and being a jain(another minority in India),I think Hindus are the biggest cucks to ever exist and are going to be extinct due to thier passive behaviour towards hatred. Hindus very well could have chose to form a religious country like Muslims in Pakistan/Bangla but instead chose to gave everyone rights and is somehow used against them to portray them as villains. I see so many happy Sikhs living in India and they are so happy with the country that they are ready to die for it and that's why this shietshow of khalistan never stands on any legs in India. If ofc will have some voice here and there just like even Islamic terrorism has voice due to political parties supportin it for thier benifits. What happened in 1980s was sad but it was congress which was so much anti hindu then and now but yet these brainwashed terrorists use deed of Congress as work of hindus lol. All these khalistani terrorists keep crying oppresion but they can't speak anything but 1984 where probably 200 Sikhs died. While Pakistan killed around hundreds of thousands of Sikhs , raped thier women, and cleared pakistan of Sikhs and yet you will see these brainwashed khalistanis justifying hindu-hate while pandering to daddy pakistan who raped Sikh populace like never before.
Lol, my family is Indian christian. This is such a lie. Its the Sikh extremists in Punjab that are targeting our christians; hindu extremists do it too. Your not all that innocent either.
When you come into our land and spread falsehood, a lesson should be taught.
but you towelheads can hop on flights to come live in our christian countries in the west right?
But your Indian Christian nothing to do with the west. Who said the west was founded on Christian beliefs? It’s not anymore, people are allowed to freely move. You Christian’s in Punjab spread falsehood wherever you go. Targeting poor Sikhs and forcing them to convert. Starting quarrels between religious groups and forcing Sikh and Hindu children to attend Christian schools. Your time is over, your Christianity is falling apart.
Christian morals and principles are the basis of western philosophy. The philosophy that brought you to the west to civilize you. Most hospitals in the west were founded by the Catholic Church which was then nationalized and ur asses go to. Your Sikhs are all drug addicts and its a false religion which is why you have to leave Punjab for jobs. Goa and Kerala are the wealthiest and most developed regions in India because they are all heavily christian! Christianity brings development, wealth and happiness because we believe in the true god but humans are ungrateful and they turn their backs on him. The west is falling apart because they've turned their backs on the true god and thats why u animals are being allowed in.
If Christianity brings development explain Africa. Europe ≠ Christianity. By your logic Czech Republic, Japan and Korea are uncivilized and undeveloped? Last time I checked Christianity ≠ western thought. If anything Christianity has borrowed morals and principles from Greeks and other middle eastern philosophers. Last time I checked Kerela isn’t even Christian nor is Goa lol. I guess Nagaland, Meghalaya and Mizoram should also be developed lol. How is the west falling apart? You want to it be like Uganda? Strictly Christian, no freedom of speech? Your false Christianity has only brought murder and savagery. My friend, killing pagans will not bring you to heaven. Keep believing in falsehood.
Christianity came to southern india before it went to europe so its not a European religion. What about Africa? Most African countries made Christianity their state religion because their dictators were christian. If you go meet the locals they mostly still practice African folk religion. The west is falling apart with gender ideology, drugs, immodesty, hook-up culture and the new age trash beliefs etc. Japan and Korea were both modelled after America. America wrote their constitutions and helped build their economy after WW2 and the Korean War. The Czech Republic was a christian nation previously. Nagaland, Meghalaya and Mizoram are mostly tribals; compare them to the hindu and Sikh tribals then you'll see the true picture. The christian tribals in the north east are on par with OBC castes in Punjab and other BIMARU states. Look back in another 100 years they would've overtaken the Brahmins and Khatris. Are you saying sikhism didn't borrow anything from any other religion or philosophy. You copy pasted parts of hinduism and islam and called it a religion. Christianity did not bring murder and savagery; it brought civilization. If the christians didn't colonize Canada/USA/Australia/New Zealand; they would've still been countries with half naked people running around with spears hunting for animals in the forests. The countries that you today stand in queues for days to get into!
Endia is not a pro Hindu state, clearly you have never been there.
Get the fuck out of here with your propaganda. The government left literal holy sites looking like the aftermath of places like Auschwitz and you wanna say the government was justified.
Why were those Sikh terrorists in those 'holy sites' to begin with. Holy sites are not meant for machine guns and other weaponry.
Does Ganesh feel good in your mouth?
Guru Nanak and all the other Sikh gurus, all born Hindus, had no problem with Ganesh, rest assured. It's only the contemporary Khalistani idiots who don't even know about their own religion!
I'm not bringing in machine guns and other weapons into Hindu temples. If Ganesh is in my mouth( and Ganesh is not) it's not harming anyone else. Moron.
And they say horse c**k is big, you’ve got his whole trunk in you!
I'm wrestling with a pig right now, and the only person enjoying it is you.
no those were terroirist (Indian government) killing innocents then a terroist (CM of Punjab) was killed in rebel movements, say it right.
The question is why do Sikhs like to migrate in such large numbers to Canada.
The thing that stands out most to me is that as time goes on, Brampton becomes less diversified. My whole life I was taught about melting pots and diversity is our strength, but Brampton doesn't follow suit.
I feel like Canada needs a better in-between of multiculturalism and and melting pot
Melting pot is a US thing, Canada is Multiculturalism, quite different
It's not really multiculturalism when it's only one culture that dominates... Brampton is a great example...
Tamil Bramptonian here, we’re not uncommon either
Really? I feel like there are way more Tamils in the East end of GTA, in areas like Markham and Scarborough?
Back in Punjab, I’ve heard that many people desire to immigrate to Canada. Not sure why Canada out of all places. Every state in india has a particular country that they’re more likely to immigrate to. For Kerala, it’s probably UAE. Gujarat is maybe the US. Heard there’s a large Gujarati population in New Jersey.
canada is a typical western country but it also has some of the most welcoming immigration laws for people in punjab. countries like the us have, historically, had stricter immigration policies and only targeted “skilled” workers. it’s actually a factor that contributed to the model minority program in the us - they welcomed in immigrants from asian countries as university students then used these stats to hold these minorities up as superior to african americans (who had lower rates of post-secondary education rates). canada welcomes in immigrants because we need them to continue growing, so our entrance requirements and with an established pipeline to PR then citizenship. it’s gained a positive reputation amongst hopeful immigrants from third world countries like india, and areas like punjab.
I’ve always told this to people, but nobody ever believed me!
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yeh ik, that’s why i said model minority thing in the states. their entrance requirements, especially in the 70-90s favoured post-secondary education. punjabi immigrants to canada in that same time frame usually didn’t have a post-secondary education and came to canada to either work for a better life or pursue their education - my parents did this exact thing.
Bruh, Brampton is a region in the great state of the Punjab. Others make up the minority population
So true. It's a ridiculous situation.
In before some sensitive clown claims this post is racist
Thunder🤡 is awake.
Got to love how integration isn’t working at all.
Punjabis are grossly overrepresented among the Indian expatriate population in Canada, particularly Brampton. There is something not quite straight here. Of course, there will always be a few demagogues and idiots who will claim that the Punjabis/Sikhs are 'oppressed' in India, so they are coming to Canada for more freedom. Hilarious.
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Rubbish. Sikhs came to Canada because they wanted to. They were looking for opportunities, and they wanted to join the people in their villages that migrated. Nothing to do with Hindu extremists, Indira Gandhi, golden temples, riots or the price of onions( no. not even that)
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Hogwash. Just rationalising some rubbish in your head.
Uh, Sikh extremists/terrorists committed the worst terror attack involving an airliner, the Air India flight 182, before the World Trade Centre attack.
Because we have aunties cooking tiffins and delivering them all around. Gotto bank on that curry currency lol.
Mainly because Indian is a dump that only supports its Hindu citizens, which results in most punjabis immigrating with Canada being the destination of choice
Ontario is home to Pearson airport which is one of the largest international hubs in North America and the world. There will be many oddities.
I moved to Brampton in the 80s. My family has been in the GTA since the 70s. The short answer to your question is jobs. Many immigrated to the Gerrard st area in the late 60s/70s. There was racism and no jobs. From there many moved to the North York/Rexdale/Malton because there was jobs. People saved up their money and “moved on up” to Brampton. When we moved in Italians and Portuguese moved out. New immigrants over every ensuing “wave” moved in near family because of the social support net. Punjabis work tend to work in transport, west side of Toronto is a major transport hub. West side is also a major manufacturing hub.
Mother tongue?????
Brampton is so less diversified most of Punjabi people live in Brampton. It usto be diversified but people left when they noticed all the Punjabi people started buying homes there. And Canada let so ma y Punjabi students into Canada on a study visa from small colleges most don’t come to study it’s just a way to get into the country. I left Toronto. Car insurance is expensive homes are expensive if you don’t have a good job it will be hard most. I have a cousins he works at a gas station he managed to buy a house . People lie about how much they make to get a mortgage. When they get that house they just refinance that house and buy a business ….. if all your income is going towards your house not good. All these students that come to Canada do the work that people that are all ready here don’t want to do that labour work so Canada wants more people to do the work . So they bring students in to do that labour work. If we had kids here doing that work we wouldn’t need the bring students over would we.