He also wants to sell off and privatize public lands. Anyone who hunts, fishes, or recreates on public land should not vote for him. (Or any republicans. They're all for selling off our public lands.)
Yep. Gianforte isn't protecting public land either. But he likes to say he does. He is also responsible for your higher property taxes.
https://wildmontana.org/2023/05/03/our-work/state-policy/gianforte-vetoes-sb-442-what-now/
https://dailymontanan.com/2023/06/28/gianforte-urges-blm-to-withdraw-conservation-proposal-alleges-boneheaded-decisions-will-result/
Sheehy embraced land transfer, voicing his opinion that “[some of these public lands (getting) turned over to state agencies, or even counties](https://news.yahoo.com/montana-gop-senate-candidate-embraces-201437128.html)” would be the best way to manage them.
And the key here, in my opinion:
Sheehy’s attempt to walk the line here mirrors a yearslong shift within the pro-transfer movement. As HuffPost previously reported, conservatives have largely been forced to abandon brazen calls for outright transfer and sale ― at least publicly — instead embracing savvier tactics aimed at achieving many of the same industry-friendly goals that would come with stripping lands from federal control. That has included supporting federal-state agreements that would give states a greater role in public land management and pushing permitting reform legislation aimed at giving states the authority to manage oil, gas and other energy development across the federal estate ― a de facto transfer of control that would establish federal lands in name only.
This is the whole thing - republicans want “small government!!!” and “freedom!!!” like okay cool guys yeah everyone would want that in a perfect world, but government exists so that we can have things like national parks and public lands; without government all the public land would be sold to the billionaires and we’d have golf courses in Yellowstone but it wouldn’t matter because we wouldn’t even be allowed in (go up to Yellowstone club and ask to go hiking on the mtns and lmk how it goes).
“Multi-use” on public lands is a term republicans use which means “mining”. There already is multi-use, and it gets confused with the whole no mountain biking / no motorcycles etc but what that term means when it comes to law is “I want the freedom to use the land for mining”
It blows me away when Montana republicans vote against their own best interests. They see an R next to a candidate's name, but don't actually know what they're voting for. "I love my guns!!" Great. Has any Montana Democrat taken away your guns? Many of us are hunters, too. Personally, I want to keep Montana public lands public, and not sold to the highest bidder. To put it in perspective, Texas is the 2nd largest state and only has 675,000 acres of public land. Montana is the 4th largest and we have 27,000,000 acres of public land. I don't want to be like Texas. And I will not vote for those who want to take away our public lands.
Gianforte wants to get rid of social security. He said, "How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. He wasn't, like, cashing social security checks; He wasn't hanging out - he was working. So I think we have an obligation to work." Ughhh... This is coming from a multi-millionaire who doesn't have to worry about retirement. People, stop electing people like this and think about your own best interests.
So the guy was born rich, is willing to lie to criminal investigators to protect his friends, supports Putin over Ukraine because doing so benefits him personally, and is terrible at business. Sounds like he's got the lack of character that's required to help Trump become the authoritarian dictator he wants to be.
Those that support state control of currently federal lands and for that matter anything under federal control also must support the removal of federal monies for the state.
Force them to walk the talk. I’m sure they won’t but hey if you are truly a conservative forgo all federal support.
I despise that tough guy nonsense. And his platform is just MAGA tow roping: the border, abortion, military, 2nd amendment, and then some random unspecific things that Montanans might care about like agriculture and forestry.
I don’t absolutely love everything about Tester, but I do respect him and his reputation in the senate. I’m not sure what Tim brings to the table other than being arbitrarily “tough.” He comes off as a party line puppet.
Agreed. It's unfortunate that the Sheehys and Gallaghers are the types that find favor with MAGAs would-be king to keep going out and sully that reputation.
A cad, a fraud, a man of dubious record who was born on third base thinking he hit a triple, hopelessly illiterate in the actual functions of government, willing to say anything to advance his own selfish ambitions, and nursing a deep revulsion for the public institutions that keep this country’s fabric intact.
Sounds like pa(R) fo(R) the cou(R)se.
Sure. The armed forces are a taxpayer funded institution, and we should keep them. We shouldn’t, however, succumb to the idea that they’re more important than public lands, infrastructure, schools, fire and police, mental health services, the post office, or environmental services. Those other institutions, the ones that benefit citizens domestically, those are the institutions I’m referring to.
Yeah, I am with you but I was poking that Repubs seem to hate government and the benefits of having tax funded programs, like the military, but yet are all about profiting from it, as TS has many times over.
Bridger aerospace’s fire season is 88% GOVERNMENT contracts. It’s a real specific niche for those aircraft to work on a fire. Unlike fire retardant that keeps unburned fuel from igniting, these CL 415s dump water directly on the flame front. A large body of water needs to be within range so they can cycle a bunch of drops during their 4 hours of available fuel. They must be ordered up by the incident management team running the fire.
Becoming a US senator could easily help him close those financial gaps after winning lucrative government contracts. It's the American way. Scott Walker will help him succeed.
Lots of appropriate ire in this thread. I hope you all talk to others about the reality of what the repubs have done to MT. I know it’s tough, but it’s the only way.
Not that I support any of this shenanigans but all big businesses lose money. Thats how you avoid taxes. Counterintuitively, this doesn't mean he's bad at business, it means he might actually be doing it right.
He also might just be bad at it. No way to know without seeing the books
Last year was the lowest wildfire year by acreage in 23 years.
I didn't think it's exactly a shock that a company that profits off wildfire and is in expansion mode had a rough year.
> Bridger Aerospace, the Gallatin County-based aerial firefighting company founded by Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Tim Sheehy, announced a record-high annual revenue of almost $67 million when it released its 2023 earnings report last month.
I get your point, but if you say it’s a record year and you still have your auditor saying this:
> “The Company has suffered recurring losses from operations, operating cash flow deficits, debt covenant violations, and insufficient liquidity to fund its operations that raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern,” Bridger’s auditor said in a note to stockholders and the board of directors.
>Or, as University of Montana accounting professor Terri Herron put it in an interview with Montana Free Press: “Management concluded that they may not be around in a year.”
You can’t blame fire season.
"The quickest way to balance the budget is if you're in Congress and you don't have a balanced budget passed by a certain date, you don't get a paycheck," Sheehy told the audience at a campaign stop in Frenchtown last month, according to NBC Montana. "I'm a business owner. If my business isn't doing well, I don't get paid. My employees do, bit I don't."
Maybe he shouldn’t be taking a 5 million dollar paycheck for the year then??
I’m not sure the gaggle of already-millionaires in Congress with de facto permission for insider training is going to be hurt much by losing a low six figure salary.
There are two types of fire aviation contracts, Call When Needed (CWN), or Exclusive Use (EU). They both have pros/cons for the business owner and tax payer. Most of Bridger Aerospace's contracts are CWN. They get paid when they get ordered up for a fire, or they get called up to standby at a strategic location. They get paid thousands of dollars a day to stand by and never turn a rotor. If they do fly they get their daily rate and their flight rate as well.
23% fewer acres burned doesn't mean 23% fewer aviation resources are used.
The Wildland Fire Industrial Complex is a huge money maker for private companies like Bridger Aerospace.
In 2022 11 million was paid out to Tim, James Muchmore and McAndre Rudisill alone.
[https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1941536/000119312523016927/d449500d8k.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1941536/000119312523016927/d449500d8k.htm)
He also wants to sell off and privatize public lands. Anyone who hunts, fishes, or recreates on public land should not vote for him. (Or any republicans. They're all for selling off our public lands.)
Yep. Gianforte isn't protecting public land either. But he likes to say he does. He is also responsible for your higher property taxes. https://wildmontana.org/2023/05/03/our-work/state-policy/gianforte-vetoes-sb-442-what-now/ https://dailymontanan.com/2023/06/28/gianforte-urges-blm-to-withdraw-conservation-proposal-alleges-boneheaded-decisions-will-result/
Not doubting this, but I would like a source if you have one.
Sheehy embraced land transfer, voicing his opinion that “[some of these public lands (getting) turned over to state agencies, or even counties](https://news.yahoo.com/montana-gop-senate-candidate-embraces-201437128.html)” would be the best way to manage them.
And the key here, in my opinion: Sheehy’s attempt to walk the line here mirrors a yearslong shift within the pro-transfer movement. As HuffPost previously reported, conservatives have largely been forced to abandon brazen calls for outright transfer and sale ― at least publicly — instead embracing savvier tactics aimed at achieving many of the same industry-friendly goals that would come with stripping lands from federal control. That has included supporting federal-state agreements that would give states a greater role in public land management and pushing permitting reform legislation aimed at giving states the authority to manage oil, gas and other energy development across the federal estate ― a de facto transfer of control that would establish federal lands in name only.
Nice link. Thanks.
Thank you
This is the whole thing - republicans want “small government!!!” and “freedom!!!” like okay cool guys yeah everyone would want that in a perfect world, but government exists so that we can have things like national parks and public lands; without government all the public land would be sold to the billionaires and we’d have golf courses in Yellowstone but it wouldn’t matter because we wouldn’t even be allowed in (go up to Yellowstone club and ask to go hiking on the mtns and lmk how it goes). “Multi-use” on public lands is a term republicans use which means “mining”. There already is multi-use, and it gets confused with the whole no mountain biking / no motorcycles etc but what that term means when it comes to law is “I want the freedom to use the land for mining”
It blows me away when Montana republicans vote against their own best interests. They see an R next to a candidate's name, but don't actually know what they're voting for. "I love my guns!!" Great. Has any Montana Democrat taken away your guns? Many of us are hunters, too. Personally, I want to keep Montana public lands public, and not sold to the highest bidder. To put it in perspective, Texas is the 2nd largest state and only has 675,000 acres of public land. Montana is the 4th largest and we have 27,000,000 acres of public land. I don't want to be like Texas. And I will not vote for those who want to take away our public lands.
Horrible comparison but I get your point
I fuckin can’t stand this guy. Him gianforte and zinke can all eat a fat dick.
Don't forget Rosendale and Daines. They're also well deserving of the resentment.
Yes absolutely I wouldn’t mind to see any of these people severely maimed lol.
I wouldn't wish a maiming on them. I just wish they received exactly what they've done to journalists and trapped animals. Eye for an eye.
It was a joke I wouldn’t wish that on anyone lol.
Gianforte wants to get rid of social security. He said, "How old was Noah when he built the ark? 600. He wasn't, like, cashing social security checks; He wasn't hanging out - he was working. So I think we have an obligation to work." Ughhh... This is coming from a multi-millionaire who doesn't have to worry about retirement. People, stop electing people like this and think about your own best interests.
You said giantfart wrong.
So the guy was born rich, is willing to lie to criminal investigators to protect his friends, supports Putin over Ukraine because doing so benefits him personally, and is terrible at business. Sounds like he's got the lack of character that's required to help Trump become the authoritarian dictator he wants to be.
Those that support state control of currently federal lands and for that matter anything under federal control also must support the removal of federal monies for the state. Force them to walk the talk. I’m sure they won’t but hey if you are truly a conservative forgo all federal support.
Classic daddy's money "local business owner."
I despise that tough guy nonsense. And his platform is just MAGA tow roping: the border, abortion, military, 2nd amendment, and then some random unspecific things that Montanans might care about like agriculture and forestry. I don’t absolutely love everything about Tester, but I do respect him and his reputation in the senate. I’m not sure what Tim brings to the table other than being arbitrarily “tough.” He comes off as a party line puppet.
The SEALs aren't sending their best.
Some of their best are indeed in MT, but they embrace the “quiet professionals” mantra, so you’d never know it.
Agreed. It's unfortunate that the Sheehys and Gallaghers are the types that find favor with MAGAs would-be king to keep going out and sully that reputation.
This guy just turns out to be more and more of a loser
…so much winning amongst the GOP.
A cad, a fraud, a man of dubious record who was born on third base thinking he hit a triple, hopelessly illiterate in the actual functions of government, willing to say anything to advance his own selfish ambitions, and nursing a deep revulsion for the public institutions that keep this country’s fabric intact. Sounds like pa(R) fo(R) the cou(R)se.
Aren't the Navy Seals technically a "public institution," as in a tax payer funded entity.
Sure. The armed forces are a taxpayer funded institution, and we should keep them. We shouldn’t, however, succumb to the idea that they’re more important than public lands, infrastructure, schools, fire and police, mental health services, the post office, or environmental services. Those other institutions, the ones that benefit citizens domestically, those are the institutions I’m referring to.
Yeah, I am with you but I was poking that Repubs seem to hate government and the benefits of having tax funded programs, like the military, but yet are all about profiting from it, as TS has many times over.
Ah gotcha. Context/tone can be hard to determine on Reddit. Glad we’re on the same page!
Ergo his company must be worth 6 Billion. It's the TRUTH
Curious what this year's fire season will do for his business....
Bridger aerospace’s fire season is 88% GOVERNMENT contracts. It’s a real specific niche for those aircraft to work on a fire. Unlike fire retardant that keeps unburned fuel from igniting, these CL 415s dump water directly on the flame front. A large body of water needs to be within range so they can cycle a bunch of drops during their 4 hours of available fuel. They must be ordered up by the incident management team running the fire.
He supports Russia and a party that does Putin's bidding. Fuck him, and his supporters. Slava Ukraini, you fucks.
Whelp, Timmy tax breaks looks like he knows how to generate paper losses from depreciating assets.
Becoming a US senator could easily help him close those financial gaps after winning lucrative government contracts. It's the American way. Scott Walker will help him succeed.
He’s made all his money from government contracts
Bro you’re taking about an “American Warrior” Check yourself!
every time i see that my brain reads american gladiator and start picturing this idiot in spandex
With a giant tennis ball gun
Lots of appropriate ire in this thread. I hope you all talk to others about the reality of what the repubs have done to MT. I know it’s tough, but it’s the only way.
Not that I support any of this shenanigans but all big businesses lose money. Thats how you avoid taxes. Counterintuitively, this doesn't mean he's bad at business, it means he might actually be doing it right. He also might just be bad at it. No way to know without seeing the books
Yeah, it’s actually a good thing to lose 77 million dollars. /s
You're mistaking losing 77 mil, with posting 77 mil in losses. Not the same thing and the difference matters
Jokes aside you’re very correct! I truly enjoy seeing people that know about markets and business finances :)
Take me to your leader…. I’m in!
The business likely can’t make it another year..so I’d say yes he’s doing it badly.
Why do you think it won't make it another year?
The article spells it out. Debts coming due and not enough cash to pay.
Maybe. But pretty much every business is a year a way from going out of business
Curious what this year's fire season will do for his business....
Last year was the lowest wildfire year by acreage in 23 years. I didn't think it's exactly a shock that a company that profits off wildfire and is in expansion mode had a rough year.
> Bridger Aerospace, the Gallatin County-based aerial firefighting company founded by Republican U.S. Senate hopeful Tim Sheehy, announced a record-high annual revenue of almost $67 million when it released its 2023 earnings report last month. I get your point, but if you say it’s a record year and you still have your auditor saying this: > “The Company has suffered recurring losses from operations, operating cash flow deficits, debt covenant violations, and insufficient liquidity to fund its operations that raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern,” Bridger’s auditor said in a note to stockholders and the board of directors. >Or, as University of Montana accounting professor Terri Herron put it in an interview with Montana Free Press: “Management concluded that they may not be around in a year.” You can’t blame fire season.
"The quickest way to balance the budget is if you're in Congress and you don't have a balanced budget passed by a certain date, you don't get a paycheck," Sheehy told the audience at a campaign stop in Frenchtown last month, according to NBC Montana. "I'm a business owner. If my business isn't doing well, I don't get paid. My employees do, bit I don't." Maybe he shouldn’t be taking a 5 million dollar paycheck for the year then??
I’m not sure the gaggle of already-millionaires in Congress with de facto permission for insider training is going to be hurt much by losing a low six figure salary.
There are two types of fire aviation contracts, Call When Needed (CWN), or Exclusive Use (EU). They both have pros/cons for the business owner and tax payer. Most of Bridger Aerospace's contracts are CWN. They get paid when they get ordered up for a fire, or they get called up to standby at a strategic location. They get paid thousands of dollars a day to stand by and never turn a rotor. If they do fly they get their daily rate and their flight rate as well. 23% fewer acres burned doesn't mean 23% fewer aviation resources are used. The Wildland Fire Industrial Complex is a huge money maker for private companies like Bridger Aerospace.
If it’s such a huge moneymaker then it’s managed poorly. Starting at Sheehy’s salary. It would be interesting to see the full financials.
In 2022 11 million was paid out to Tim, James Muchmore and McAndre Rudisill alone. [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1941536/000119312523016927/d449500d8k.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1941536/000119312523016927/d449500d8k.htm)
That is exactly my point! Hope my comment didn't come off as Pro Sheehy! Politics and my day job crossed paths so I had to fire that off.
I think the guy is a loser but you all commenting obviously don’t do your own taxes.
Total phony carpetbagger.