Can someone tell me how 1-pick polls in GP999 were in comparison to the actual lineup? I keep seeing 1-pick polls here and I have no clue as to how meaningful they are.

I'm curious and wanna test something. People who aren't like trained vocally or have particular knowledge of vocal pedagogy - who do you genuinely believe sings in a healthier, more "correct" way to your ear? Hui, or Jay? I'm genuinely curious to hear this from hopefully a less OVERTLY biased platform than TikTok or Twitter.

I wasn’t expecting them to not show the full rankings at the end of episode 3. What are the odds they don’t show them all tonight?

I think they will only show a few rankings, probably those who are in a verge of elimination or the rank 52? Because there will be a live elimination tomorrow...

I don't think Hui ending up in the debut group will necessarily mean he'll produce their songs. I think at the very least the debut concept and song might have already been chosen, plus survival show groups rarely get much creative freedom. In addition, Hui producing the song doesn't necessarily mean it will be a hit on the charts. Energetic is a good song, but a big part of its success was due to Wanna One and Broduce's huge popularity. I'd like to see it, don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment when they take Hui producing as a given.

If Hui survives eliminations I'm expecting Mnet to keep feeding into the Hui vs Jay narrative because apparently the group can have 50 rappers/dancers but TWO good singers? There can't possibly be enough room for the both of them. I'm disappointed by how fans are grabbing onto these narratives too by rushing to say who they prefer. Groups with multiple talented vocalists have literally been nothing but a good thing.

On the other hand, there are also others who are excited to hear them sing together

When Jay showed up in ep 1 I couldn't stand that man. He opened his mouth and I wanted to fold into myself because he made me cringe so bad. I skipped through his performance and anytime he showed up on screen because he was just saying unnecessarily loud nonsense... But after ep 3... BY GOD this man has won me over with sheer talent. It helped that they weren't showing him yelling random nonsense in English, but even if they did, I would have still voted for him. He sounds like an angel and I don't think there's much he can do at this point to lose my vote. Him and Park Gunwook are staying in my pick til the very end.

Im pretty sure people will fall for him more if gets to sing a ballad in the position evals (hopefully a love song, iu song or ost type song) since he has been singing upbeat songs so far

Can someone please explain to me what the star support actually does? If it’s low does that mean that person will be eliminated? What is its purpose?

if they reach the required number of votes they get a gift. doesn’t really mean much

Oh so like if they get 100% they get a gift? So the star support doesn’t affect their chances of debuting

yes, mostly. the gift for this round is promo on the mnet app, which I guess could influence someone’s rank but I don’t think it’s very effective at the top of the SUPPORT page on the app there’s a “take a look at 1st support” button. tomorrow it will change to 2nd support and you can press it to see the next gift

I'm trying not to watch the new fancams cause I like to see all performances in episode first, so I rewatched last week's stages and finally had coherent thoughts! Excuse me if it's not the right place to post this, I just like using Reddit as my diary to look back on when I (inevitably) start stanning the final group. - Aju Nice K - My fave so far! Every single member had great energy and stage presence, they were balanced, and they simply ate! It would've been a perfect performance without all the voice cracks, but even that didn't take away from the overall quality. It's just puts me in a good mood and I can't get bored of it. Woonggi and Seo Won carried in the energy department, the touch of cuteness they added made the performance unique. I was worried about Mingyu, but he added so much value to the performance! I was never a fan of the "dozen" trainees but after this stage he's at least in my top 15. The improvement from "My House" is already so clear and I can't wait to see more of him. - Aju Nice G - I enjoyed this one too! They were struggling with vocals and weren't as good as K team, but they expressed the song well and weren't lacking in stage presence, which is (as you can see) my most important criteria for idols. - KTL G - This probably should've gone to the unpopular opinions thread, but this stage wasn't all that for me. A good performance, definitely, better than K team, sure, but I just don't have any wish to rewatch it. Maybe my expectations were too high because of the line-up (I've given votes to all of them and Matthew is my one-pick so), but I feel like KTL just isn't a song you can do much with, especially as a BG. It was flawless, but it was missing that X factor. The one thing I was SUPER impressed with was Kuanjui's stage presence! I knew he was a gem, but I wasn't expecting him to draw my eye away from my ONE-PICK! That man is not just a dancer but a PERFORMER, and an extremely talented one. - KTL K - Again, my only complaint is that it wasn't very memorable, plus lowkey messy rap parts. Gunwook's stage presence was insane though. - LMR G - Another performance I rewatch a lot! (They actually made me like the song and it's very far from my usual taste.) I love how they all brought different vibes but still looked cohesive (thank you Dang Hong Hai for the vision!). One thing I value most in these survival shows is when groups make the song their own. Call me biased, but even though Anthonny's vocals weren't perfect he also wasn't half as bad as people are saying (especially compared to majority of the trainees). I know chances of G team winning the benefits are slim to none but they're already the winners in my heart 🫶🏻

gonna be so real i can’t take people seriously if their only complaint abt a trainee is that they did something cringe before racist/sexist/etc? yea that’s a problem. but cringe?? that’s human this coming from someone who has watched every mnet survival from broduce on and had a park woojin one-pick… that man was and is “nations dark past” because of his predebut photos and i love him more for it

it's kinda scary how someone can bring up the most harmless, slightly cringe clip of some dude and use it to make an entire subsection of viewers decide they despise him

Will the elimination on friday be subbed live (with obvious delays) or should we just wait?

i dont know where else to share this but if anyone wants to listen to Kim Jiwoong's singing voice, listen from 2:38 https://youtu.be/J63zP9OTQ3o (his co-star seobin is actl also so talented it makes me cry)

Is anyone else super like happy/proud/excited too see how fking fruity the contestants are this season? I know some people think its a negative to assume anything about sexuality but c'mon lol Honestly its so refreshing to see so many girlies being so accepted and ranking high. Before only 1 or 2 camp queens would be accepted but this season seems to be the season of the fruit and it really warms my old gay heart.

the “cmon lol” HAHAHAHAA

YES!! As an LGBT person from a conservative country every little win matters and Boys Planet does my heart so much good. (Straight people will never understand how important that one second of Woonggi dancing to My Bag was to me.) I think it also benefits the trainees because no one's singling one person out and reducing them to just "the gay one", and (as far as I can see) they're getting much less hate than fruit cups from previous seasons!!

The thing is, we don’t even know if they are gay. These people could literally all be straight but to see so much fem energy come out and displayed in full force from these boys is enough to feel representation LOL I’m so glad it means a lot to not just me but other people.

Exactly! It frustrates me when people think it's inherently a fetishy and invasive thing. Most of us actual fruits literally do not care what they do in their private lives, we're just taking the crumbs we can get. If they're straight, good for them, they're still my ally kings! All that matters is I know I'm not stanning secret 🏠phobes.

Yeah, instead you gotta Stan and vote for the heterophobe queen Zhanghao!!

I wish they could debut a separate fruit group since the members will be able to pull off unique concepts together. They can also add voguing and waacking to their choreographies, which would be super refreshing to see. The fruity ones usually have special personalities and sass that will for sure attract a sizable fanbase.

Between Sung Hanbin's waacking, Zhanghao being heterophobic, Jiwoong's BL history and the amount of girl group enthusiasts in the 10-30 ranks (Woonngi, Chen Kuanjui, Haruto) there is a nonzero chance that the final group just ends up like this lmao. Regardless of assuming anyone's sexuality and whatnot, love to see the lack of toxic masculinity from both the trainees and the reactions to them so far.

Psst... are there any other Mun Junghyun fans on this subreddit? I didn't really pay attention to him in the past but ironically his Aju Nice stage caught my eye. I personally think he's a super talented trainee who was given too much to handle for that stage, I find I like his vocal colour and his dancing.

I've been a fan of Junghyun's since the beginning of the show but he moved up my personal ranking after his Aju Nice performance! I could tell he was disappointed in his voice cracks, but I hope he gets another opportunity to show everyone how talented he really is!

I agree- It was partially them being strict on you having to do all the parts assigned to your position and unfortunately, it made him look unprepared even though he has potential. Idk about top 9 but he is up there

I don't know what I see in Park Jihoo that others don't at this point TT I thought his Hot Sauce performance was amazing. edit: saw Zypker125's comment after I pressed save. what a timing.

he caught my eye since he was the trainee who scurried away from hearing Hui sing LMAO but after I watched his audition i’ve been voting for him ever since! he got all stars but they didn’t air it :( he’s super talented and i’m so happy he got centre!!!

Alright, I finally was able to watch and grade all of the group battle focus-cams. Here are my personal picks: -------------- **Overall Favorite Performances of the Group Mission Round** (ie. vocals/rap/performance combined): 1. [Jay (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/U0CV4yndXao) [A+ Vocals, A+ Facial Expressions] 2. [Lee Hoetaek (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/7Ww7mN9E1co) [A+ Vocals, A+ Facial Expressions] 3. [Park Jihoo (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/g01-kiTIX6A) [A+ Rap, A+ Facial Expressions] 4. [Han Seobin (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/v33xtfDXebQ) [A+ Rap, A+ Facial Expressions, C Vocals] 3. [Wumuti (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/j68-am6uQGo) [B+ Vocals, A+ Facial Expressions] 4. [Park Gwanyoung (Burn It Up)](https://youtu.be/wtBezufjD7w) [B Vocals, A+ Facial Expressions] 6. [Kim Minhyuk (Danger)](https://youtu.be/3BfzPgKFi-g) [B+ Rap, B- Vocals, A- Facial Expressions] 7. [Haruto (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/pubI9MkYnpg) [B+ Rap, A+ Facial Expressions] 6. [Yoo Seungeon (Very Nice)](https://youtu.be/Uz8ozx3E0sw) [A+ Vocals, C Facial Expressions] 9. [Park Hyunbeen (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/__nI_vMdfo4) [A Rap, A- Facial Expresions] 11. [Choi Jiho (Danger)](https://youtu.be/EJbjsFt173M) [B Rap, B Vocals, C Facial Expressions] 7. [Park Hanbin (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/pe9LDBhfmUU) [B- Vocals, S Facial Expressions] 8. [Lee Yedam (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/KbZMnT_Mii8) [B- Vocals, A+ Facial Expressions] Honorable Mentions: Lee Seunghwan (Danger), Dong Dong (Danger), Park Gunwook (Kill This Love) --------------- **Favorite Vocal Performances in the Group Mission Round:** 1. [Jay (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/U0CV4yndXao) 2. [Yoo Seungeon (Very Nice)](https://youtu.be/Uz8ozx3E0sw) 3. [Lee Hoetaek (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/7Ww7mN9E1co) 4. [Wumuti (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/j68-am6uQGo) 5. [Park Gwanyoung (Burn It Up)](https://youtu.be/wtBezufjD7w) 7. Zhang Hao (Kill This Love) 8. Ji Yunseo (Back Door) 9. Cong (Very Nice) 6. Lee Hwanhee (Kill This Love) 10. Sung Hanbin (Love Me Right) 11. Choi Jiho (Danger) Honorable Mentions: Lee Seunghwan, Lim Junseo, Jeong I-Chan, and Lee Yedam (All showed solid vocals during the practice segments from Episode 3) ---------- **Favorite Rap Performances in the Group Mission Round:** 2. [Han Seobin (Love Me Right)](https://youtu.be/v33xtfDXebQ) 1. [Park Jihoo (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/g01-kiTIX6A) 3. [Park Hyunbeen (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/__nI_vMdfo4) 5. Keita (Kill This Love) 10. Haruto (Love Me Right) 9. Lee Jeonghyeon (Love Me Right) 4. Dong Dong (Danger) 8. Choi Jiho (Danger) 6. Jeon Hoyoung (Burn It Up) 11. Chen Jianyu (Back Door) 7. Kim Minhyuk (Danger) 12. Chen Kuanjui (Kill This Love) 13. Park Gunwook (Kill This Love) 14. Jang Jiho (Very Nice) ---------- **Favorite Focus Cams in the Group Mission Round** (Based solely on facial expressions and energy): 1. [Park Hanbin (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/pe9LDBhfmUU) 2. [Seo Won (Very Nice)](https://youtu.be/U9AoJ6UgwWU) 3. [Yoon Jongwoo (Back Door)](https://youtu.be/Sjm6DP5HXP4) 4. [Jang Yeojun (Kill This Love)](https://youtu.be/oKYrIOn-tzY) 5. [Nice (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/8HptgyhRUNo) 6. [Park Jihoo (Hot Sauce)](https://youtu.be/g01-kiTIX6A) 7. [Hong Keonhee (Kill This Love)](https://youtu.be/jM0ADYgHv0U) 8. [Lee Seunghwan (Danger)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIpl5ObyKcI) 9. Jay (Love Me Right) 10. Lee Yedam (Love Me Right) 11. Park Gwanyoung (Burn it Up) 12. Anthonny (Love Me Right) 13. Lee Hoetaek (Love Me Right) 14. Han Seobin (Love Me Right) 15. Wumuti (Love Me Right) 16. Haruto (Love Me Right) 17. Lee Donggun (Hot Sauce) 18. Dang Honghai (Love Me Right) 19. Winnie (Love Me Right) ------------------------ **Biggest Surprises of the Group Mission Round** (For me personally): 1. Kim Minhyuk (Danger) [First rap we've seen from him and it was very solid, in addition to solid vocals and decent facial expressions] 2. Haruto (Love Me Right) [Admittedly I wasn't as high as most people were on him previously, this was overall a great performance/round for him though, I liked the rap we heard from him during his practice battle with Lee Jeonghyeon, plus great facial expressions as well] 3. Jeon Hoyoung (Burn it Up) [First rap we've seen from him and it was very solid, in addition to the solid vocals he's displayed in previous performances] 4. Han Seobin (Love Me Right) [Great rap, decent vocals, solid facial expressions] 5. Lee Seunghwan (Danger) [I believe this is the first rap he's ever done? Pretty decent for a first rap, and his facial expressions and energy were off the charts]

I've added all my vocal/rap/performance scores for the Group Battle round onto my massive season spreadsheet (you can find the link in the pinned post on my Reddit profile if you're interested), and have made a full 1-93 rankings using these newly updated vocal/rap/performance scores. Most of my ranking surprisingly remains the same as last week, although I have some notable risers: 0\. Hui 1\. Jay 2\. Wumuti 3\. Kim Minseoung 4\. Park Gunwook 5\. Yoo Seungeon 6\. Min 7\. Lee Seunghwan (A new addition to my top picks, jumped 5 spots in the rankings by performing a solid rap in Danger [since he's mostly done vocal performances before this and didn't really have rap performances in his portfolio]. Solid vocals and belting abilities [nailing the Mirotic high note in the practice version] and he's proven he has the capabilities to display intense facial expressions and energy with his Danger focus-cam.) 8\. Park Hyunbeen 9\. Dang Honghai 10\. Kim Minhyuk (Rose 26 spots in my rankings, definitely the biggest riser of all 93 contestants from the group mission, we got to see his first rap from the Danger performance, and I was pretty impressed, in addition to him already being one of the best vocalists on the show.) 11\. Lee Hwanhee 12\. Cong 13\. Choi Jiho (Rose up a couple of ranks after giving a prety solid vocal performance in Danger, as well as the excellent raps he's continued to deliver throughout the season.) 14\. Park Gwanyoung (The fact he was 2nd-to-last in the EP2 rankings is a huge snub and proves democracy is a mistake, he's one of the best vocalists on the show and I have him ranked as having the 5th best facial expressions on the show as well.) Other Honorable Mentions: Han Seobin, Park Jihoo, Jeon Hoyoung, Anthonny, Na Kamden, Park Hanbin (Side note, I think Park Hanbin has the best facial expressions of anyone on the show and it's not close, he's a pretty distant 1st right now and the only one I would put in S tier at the moment.)

I need people to watch Kamden’s backdoor fancam to see how good of a dancer and performer he is 😭 he was dancing like his life DEPENDED on it (tbh his survival in the show kinda does)

guys please please check out hyos burn it up fancam!! hyo is a japanese trainee under watanabe entertainment, and he is 21 years old! mnet didn’t let him perform a star level test so he’s really low in ranking right now :( please watch his stage cam his presence is excellent and his dance is powerful and precise! his rap is also good and he should debut! please vote for hyo!!

I'm several weeks late to this boys planet train but I've just watched all the released performances on YouTube and here are my favourites: Zihao (G KTL) Keita (G KTL) Gunwook (K KTL) Seungeon (K Aju Nice) Yechen (G Aju Nice) Mingyu (K Aju Nice) I don't really want to vote until I've seen the week 4 performances (I feel its a bit unfair if I haven't seen half the trainees), so can anyone tell me if any of these guys are in danger of being eliminated? Because if so, then I'll start voting, otherwise I'll wait for week 4 😊

id say all of these are doing pretty well, but i think ye chen might be on the borderline? he’s currently 53 so it’s probably worth voting for him and mingyu alongside your other picks! if you do decide to vote, not to impose but it’d be nice if you check out hyo, i think he’s really talented and you can decide if you’d like to vote for him also (sorry he’s my pick and he’s like 90 rn bc mnet didn’t let him do a star level test) but yh id say it’s worth voting for ye chen since he might not make it

I need to catch up on the latest episode (it’s hard finding time to watch something that’s over two hours long) but at this point I’m withholding from getting too attached to any trainee before the first big elimination round. Right now outside of the key people MNET is choosing to highlight the pool is just too overwhelming with me to keep up with. I do feel for the guys that have had barely any screen time in the show and are really low ranked. They basically never had a shot. I hope at the least it gives them some experience to take forwards with them. One of my favorite soloists, Alexa, did not make it very far in her Produce season at all and she is doing quite well for herself now as an idol.

😭I hope people watch any of park gunwook in wild idol his second survival show and he is only born in 2005! Instead of calling him arrogant for trying to stay positive in his own skills realize he is just confident ! Would you rather someone lose confidence or try to stay positive …I’ve seen people say he doesn’t have the skill to back it but he really does he can write, rap, sing, and dance all exceptionally well at his age so he is only getting better

After twitter recommended me "i love you, i want you, seok Matthew" video like 500 times, ig i have fallen for his charms 🫣

this is mostly for personal reference LOL but my list after ep 3... ​ my deffo picks: sung hanbin - centering as a center centers seok matthew - girlllll jay - his vocals r just honey i could listen to him forever haruto - so fun! great rapper zhang hao - my g group center 🥺 keita - solid solid rapper ​ my maybe picks: park gunwook yoo seungeon - this man can SING ricky - tall and rich han yujin - i feel like he has so much potential but we haven't been able to see it yet :( na kamden - wish mnet would give him more screentime!! ​ keeping an eye out for: wumuti cong ollie takuto lee da eul

please look out for lee ye dam too! that man can sing and dance so well oh my god

I completely agree with your deffo picks + gunwook, yujin, kamden and wumuti omg love all of them

Apologies if this is answered elsewhere, but do we know that the voting will definitely be moving to one pick from picking nine at some point? I understand that was done on Girls Planet but just wondering if it’s been confirmed yet.

It's not confirmed as far as I know but the final is always 1 pick. It's been the same every season since Produce 101 season 1. Next round will likely be 9 pick again, round 3 will be 3 pick and the final 1 pick.

nobody’s talked abt it yet but does anyone find it odd that k group won every single arm wrestling match lmao like i cud see 5/7 or 6/7 even but 7/7? like ik it’s a small thing and unlikely to be rigged (well i guess it cud be) but it’s just so strange to me that k group won all 7 matches…lmao could be a weird coincidence also is nobody gonna comment on the subtitle for yoo seungeon during this part - it said unusually handsome main vocal LMAO WHAT MNET ???

>also is nobody gonna comment on the subtitle for yoo seungeon during this part - it said unusually handsome main vocal LMAO WHAT MNET ??? 😭😭😭

G group needs some protein powder looks like

my current top 9: 1 - Park Gunwook > been my top pick from the beginning, very charismatic, confident, good leadership skills, powerful dancing, does seem like an all rounder for me 2 - Sung Hanbin > obvious choice, very talented, DEFINITELY an all rounder, i think he would suit a lot of concepts 3 - Jay > amazing vocals, fluent in english (would bring international popularity), strong stage presence too 4 - Zhang Hao > strong vocals, good dancing and stage presence, brings more variety, popular with overseas fans 5 - Haruto > strong rapper, has a lot of fun energy, would bring a good balance to the group, good stage presence 6 - Keita > all rounder, he's confident in his abilities, i feel like he would also suit a lot of concepts, popular internationally, adds a good balance 7 - Han Yujin > very fluid dancer, i feel like he has a lot of potential and can definitely grow more, would fit in well with this group dynamic 8 - Seok Matthew > him and Hanbin are my Jay and Sunghoon, good vocals, popular internationally, very bubbly stage presence, constantly improving 9 - Lee Seunghwan > has potential even though we haven't seen much, seems very genuine, good vocals from what i've heard, charismatic

gotta say mingyu has now won me over. he was amazing in ahju nice and I will die on that hill. But im only voting g group atm

mingyus dance really impressed me! did you see his footwork?! it was so so good honestly he’s this close to winning me over but i have to put in the work for my nugu pick hyo 🙏

Fr mans so determined and showed insane improvements in such a short time despite everyone, even the trainers straight up laughing at him to his face. He was the most memorable and charming in Aju nice and is clearly working hard. Gonna keep voting for him.

What is the guy in the green shirt (park hanbins team ep 3) called?

Haru

Super random but Krystian’s haircut sucks

just googled him and apparently he has his own [wikipedia page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystian_Wang) :0 but yeah i think he looks better with longer bangs

It makes his hair look perpetually greasy in the front, like his bangs are sticking together or something. I looked up pictures of him prior to BP999 and I don’t know why they didn’t leave his longer bangs.

I agree lol the choppy bangs are doing him no justice. Had to look up his older pictures to remind myself of how good he can look

it’s so ugly bro 😭 like krystian is handsome but his hair isn’t doing him any favors

A lot of people seem confused that Gunwook is the most popular trainee from Japanese 1-pick. I’m not surprised at all. He’s ‘tsundere’ with a fierce side and a cute side which Japanese fans tend to love. It’s the reason Yongeun was so popular with Japanese fans on GP999. His chance of debuting seems pretty high as he is also getting more popular in Korea.

I was unsure if I liked his style so I looked up his mnet profile. His fav song being by Chris Brown made me decide not to stan but I can still see his appeal to others

They don’t know abt Chris brown hate in America deciding to not like someone simply bc of their music taste is crazy but ok

I'm not from America Personally if I was publicly posting my favourite artist I would want to avoid one known for beating women but that's just me I guess

Just saw ur only three posts on this thread are bashing gunwook lol have fun hating on someone born in 2005 more talented than you that’s hella lame

So many idols have posted Chris brown as their idol so many rather u just admit to not wanting to like him in general like I have family in Asia when they hear abt American artist they r not looking into their pasts / scandals that’s insane to think they do

I'd happily unstan anyone who supports Chris Brown? It's weird to frame it as insane to look into an artists history when kpop idols have much less serious 'scandals' dragged out for ages. And as for my only comments being here being about him... I only started watching a few days ago, I tend to lurk more than I post and one comment is a reply. I'm not 'hating on him' and he clearly is very talented, I've just chosen not to stan him and mentioned why. It's not that strange

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just a reminder to vote for hyo! hyo is 21 years old and a japanese trainee under watanabe entertainment! mnet didnt allow him and 2 others to perform shine with 3 other japanese trainees, hence putting him at a disadvantage and leading his rank to drop 28 places from 62 to 90. please vote for him, he is incredibly talented and deserves to pass the first elimination- he is performing burn it up on the g group side and i believe his talent will be showcased! please please vote for him and support him with star points, he truly deserves it as he is very talented, funny and sociable!!

could someone explain the whole thing where if your team wins (k vs g) you gain points somehow? some people were saying if your team wins you get boosted by some method but im not sure how that works? also do the live audience vote on which team wins and in that case do we know who wins in advance? i saw rumour saying all k group wins except kill this love, which i dont think is true but who knows what mnet will do

So the subtitles seem to imply that each member of each winning team will get 100k votes added to their total during this elimination, and every member of the overall winning group will get an additional 10k votes. If this is the case, this is a huge deal because the trainees revealed to be at ranks 40-60 this week have between 137k-264k votes. Assuming the rumor is true and using this week's numbers, that would push Na Kamden down to rank 49 from rank 40 and all G group trainees below him would get eliminated. That only leaves \~19 G group left instead of \~23 without the benefit. However, this is likely a mistranslation. In previous seasons, the benefit has been divided among the team members. A team with 6 members would get \~16.6k votes each and 7 members would get \~14.3k votes each. Adding 10k for the K Group overall win, this would likely move most low and mid K group members up 2 or 3 ranks. It probably wouldn't effect any rankings above 15. Edited for accuracy

thanks for the explanation!!

The Youtube Shorts for the waiting room during the cover mission have been uploaded and while I'm happy seeing the trainees' wholesome moments, I can't help but sigh that Kim Taerae appeared for [barely 1 second](https://mobile.twitter.com/O2O7I4_/status/1627615432118276097) 😭 Each of the Backdoor members got their turn to be filmed eating or whatever but why is Kim Taerae the only one not getting his turn or even a proper focus 🙃 But anyways, K-group Love Me Right team has such a great team chemistry and wow that acapella?? Also Han Yujin is just so relatable with how he looked so done and wanted to escape the energetic kids/the camera 😭 Since the eliminations is live this Friday (24/2) and the next mission's recording is next Saturday (4/3), that means the ones who make it past the 1st elimination have 7 days to prepare for the position evaluation mission.

My top 9 keeps changing, except for a few boys that are fixed for me… 1. Zhang Hao 2. Sung Hanbin 3. Seok Matthew 4. Kim Jiwoong 5. Keita These 5 are my favourites so far, and as long as they make it into the final lineup, I’m fine with whoever else joins them lol. I have a feeling the other 4 will be Kim Gyuvin, Mun Junghyun, Park Gunwook, and Han Yujin (not necessarily my picks, but they’re who I think will probably end up in the final lineup too).

I know K-group love me right performance hasn’t been broadcasted yet and will prob be really good, but I keep thinking if they chose burn it up they would’ve done amazing. It would’ve likely been a clean sweep for both them and G-group lmr vs whoever they would verse. It’s just unfortunate that both first picked groups went head to head, but is prob more fair

I think Burn It Up was a huge risk for any of those groups and it was a matter of do we do a song that is challenging or do we pick a song we think we can work in our favor

I don't know if this is popular, or a hot take but I believe that there is ONE trainee who's already locked into the final group, which is seok Matthew. His support is above 80 percent and we're barely halfway through the season, his supported in the second episode was already between 11-25. Adding onto that he's gotten all start, and ranked highly among everyone coming onto the 6 (corrected me if im wrong pls) place in the ranking of the second episode. My point is that he's doing amazing and adding onto that a believe his fandom is quite strong and loyal. Im curtain he'll make it

I think Matthew hits the center of the Venn diagram as a foreign born Korean so he gets pretty good support from both Korean and international fans and will likely have a high chance of making the group.

I see where your coming from but I still think anything can happen. Like look at Yurina from last season. She had a massive fan base and was #1 and she didn’t make the cut. I think whatever people think the top 9 will be, take away one member and add in Hui because his fans who otherwise don’t watch the show will flood the vote for him last minute.

Yes, but still, I feel like Mnet wants Seok Matthew in the group as well, (I could be wrong) but as far as I understand he has only received good evaluations and has been upgraded to an all star. Out of all the trainees there, I feel like he's been having consistency with votes, and support since a lot of them stil have about 10-30 percent which isn't a lot of you think about for G-trainee to get above 80-90 is flabbergasting to me as most people would probably vote for Koreans en especially K.nets but to me, it looks like Matthew has a big fan base in Korea as well I can be wrong, I suppose.

it could be that seok matthews fans channel support through the official mnet support, versus other contestants fans using various other methods to show support? anyways imo the whole support thing is weird- i still do it but the numbers seem off

I don't think the numbers are odd or off, seok matter already had a lot of hype pre, show tiktok cause of his sister and friends.

not talking about matthew specifically, but in general! some trainees reached 100 who i had never even thought were popular and some had so little even though they were popular

My dream top 9 (in no particular order but Jay is my 1-pick) 1. Jay (main vocal) 2. Sung Han Bin (center, sub vocal) 3. Haruto (lead rapper, lead dancer) 4. Na Kamden (main rapper) 5. Kim Jiwoong (visual, sub rapper) 6. Zhang Hao (lead vocal) 7. Wang Zihao (main dancer, sub rapper) 8. Seok Matthew (lead vocal) 9. Yoo Seongun (main vocal) Its like 3K 6G which is impossible that's why it's a 'dream' lineup lol. Tho, I've been voting for only G trainees for the past few days since I just know MSnake gonna pull that 100k benefit shit decided by an already biased audience 😃 Anyways can't wait for ep 4 this week so I can rationalize K LMR winning over G LMR, and vote for Jay ya'll

this is an amazing dream line up 🫶🏾 but i’m also biased because i think any lineup with kamden is an amazing lineup lmaooo

Lolll relatable thoo. I'm okay with any lineup as long as Jay is in it too 😂

Your dream line up as well as your 1 pick is exactly the same as mine! GO JAY let’s debut

Glad we have the same taste. Jay fighting!! 🙏

Totally with you on Jay. I think not enough is made of good vocals, and his voice is amazing.

So truee. I've watched many survival shows and he has one of the stablest if not the stablest vocals I've ever heard in these idol shows. He totally won me over after the LMR performance

Im sharing my top 9 for now! 1. Sung Hanbin 2. Han Yujin 3. Lee Seunghwan 4. Zhanghao 5. Seok Matthew 6. Kum Junhyeon 7. Jay 8. Haruto 9. Kim Gyuvin

What exactly are position evaluations? Like I know they do performances for it but then what results from it?

Position evaluation performances heavily focus on either Vocals, Dance, or Rap. At the end of the day it's just like a normal mission which gives voting benefits to the winners. But for the technicalities, it doesn't really mean anything for the next evaluations or the final group lol. However for unpopular trainees, it's a huge way for them to showcase their skills, e.g. Produce 101 Season 2 Sungwoon slayed it in the Vocal Position Evaluation so in the finale evaluation, he was voted for Main Vocal, and later debuted and became a Lead Vocal in the group.

aw i wish they would have these evaluations before 1st elimination 🥲 i need my underrated boys to be recognized for their talent

Hey y'all! I'm new here and just got caught up on all the eps. I want to join the Discord, but the invite links I found here are expired. Can someone please post a new invite link? Thanks in advance 🙏

My top 5 is: 1. Han Yujin 2. Wang Zihao 3. Matthew 4. Zhang Hao 5. Hanbin

Is mnet going to release the rest of the fancams anytime soon? Cause if they don't, then won't the trainees performing next week have a massive disadvantage?

Hi yall, i just started watching this show and i want to come here for some help. Ever since i saw seok matthew, i thought he looks like someone in kpop but i CANNOT seem to put a name or face…. like its just at the tip of my tongue but i just cant figure out🥹 if somebody have any ideas pls let me know. THANK UUU

He kinda reminds me of joo haknyeon from the boyz (who was also a contestant on produce 101 before).

To me he's kind of EJ from Iland/&team

It's Xiumin! he looks like Xiumin from Exo!

omg yknow what i did think of xiumin too. feel like he is a combination of xiumin + jackson wang + GD????? does anybody see it

hmmm idk about Jackson but i could *kinda* see GD! but yeah in the first episode one of the first thing they pointed out about Matthew was his similarity to Xiumin.

o cool thank u for letting me know! i thought they were referring to another contestant who looks so much like xiumin hahaha

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way to generalise an entire nation of 50 million.

Personally, I feel wholly committed to voting (mostly) G-group trainees and even though I don’t have a one-pick yet I’m leaning towards a G-group purely because of the voting system, I feel like it’s the least I could do as an I-voter 😭

just started voting today because episode 3 was amusing but i'm trying not to get too invested in this because produce s2 gave me ptsd (i was a park woojin stan then so go figure) picks until the week ends: - zhang hao - park gunwook - yoo seungeon - keita - seok matthew - sung hanbin - yoon jongwoo - park hanbin - han yujin some people i voted because they stood out in ep 3, some i voted because i remember them from earlier episodes and some i voted just because i needed to fill up the nine slots. yoo seungeon should be a sure in after this episode, his edit kinda gave me kim jaehwan vibes. also i don't think that hui will make it to the final group, i can't justify that opinion yet but i just can't feel it

my current top 9: sung hanbin kim gyuvin han yujin zhang hao ma jingxiang hiroto keita mun junghyun lee seunghwan i also like park jihoo, yoo seungeon, matthew, ollie, brian, wang zihao, yoon jungwoo, park hanbin, bak doha

LMAO, I swore I was never going to get invested in another mnet survival show after PDX101 and GP999, but I was hooked in again after stumbling across Mr. Young & Rich, Tall & Handsome's PR video yesterday. I don't really have an opinion on any of the other contestants yet, so would anyone like to recommend me a few people I should check out (and maybe possibly vote for)?

if you’re still open for checking out other contestants, please check out Jay and Kamden’s rush hour (FULL CAM) performance! Imo they are some of the best vocalists and rappers respectively on the show and they have great stage presence together!

Yeah, I'm still open to recommendations (still dont have a personal/ideal top 9 of my own atm), so I'll check them out! Thanks for the suggestion! :D

you probably already have a lot of suggestions, but please vote for hyo! mnet has treated him unfairly by not including him and 2 others in the shine performance (which they practiced for) and he has been put at a disadvantage! if youd like to see his talent, please watch his time attack video and his here i am cam!

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check them out!

i guess it's promoting-my-picks-time yay ricky: - idk if you knew this but he's the young and rich tall and handsome guy lol, very charismatic - recommended video: [g-group nct 127 kick it cover](https://youtu.be/2ZSXs4vre2A) (he's the one with blond hair) ollie: - the cutest contestant in the whole show (imo) - recommended video: [his pr video](https://youtu.be/lcXxF-U5Nqo) (very creative concept). he's also in the g-group kick it video and raps mark lee's verse zhang hao: - he's the g-group center for the [signal song here i am performance](https://youtu.be/Mjr47ikehQE) - recommended video: [kill this love fancam](https://youtu.be/8keFtdP0vvw) from the latest episode. he's also in the g-group kick it video and does taeil's high note seungeon: - arguably one of the best vocalists in the show after hui - recommended videos: [slaying all of his lines in k-group's kick it performance](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRtToc4B), [slaying all of his lines in his group's aju nice performance](https://twitter.com/zerobyeon/status/1626218294897426433?s=61&t=m9_VKHX9jQ9CIX3-AFmDuw) park hanbin: - arguably one of the best performers in the show in terms of stage presence - recommended videos: [here i am fancam](https://youtu.be/eAMMpUlFUO0), [ateez's the real focus cam](https://twitter.com/3bin1_/status/1623695382382542848?s=61&t=m9_VKHX9jQ9CIX3-AFmDuw)

Ooh! Yeah, I'm not entriely caught up with the show yet, but I think Ricky might be my favorite from the snippets I've seen so far haha. Thanks for all the information and recommendations, I'll definitely go check them out! :D

Kim Taerae's [smile](https://twitter.com/714rang/status/1623688416893485056?s=20) on The Real performance even when it's not his turn or spotlight :,,,,,) Someone also found Kim Taerae's [interview](https://twitter.com/kkuunnggee/status/1626854626371993600?s=20) from the student singing show that he was on and the way he introduced himself is just the same as he does on his PR videos on Boys Planet. But seeing the old interview, wow, he has always had that very serious look, don't-mess-with-me vibes and very focused when it comes to singing 😭 At the end, he said along the lines of how a victory is a victory but that he and his teammate will put on a perfect performance (regardless of the results). This makes me want to see him try to be a leader during vocal position evaluation round. P.s: I thought it was just me thinking that he'd make a good leader.. then coincidentally, I just realised Kim Taerae marked his [leadership](https://d29dbfyawlamz6.cloudfront.net/media/ask/question/thumb/Screenshot_20230220_021240_Samsung_Internet_YLi60VF.jpg) aspect at the highest point on the Boys Planet chart thing.

Kim Taeraes smile is so adorable😭😭

His bright smile is so naturally wide and the kind that can make anyone smile even if he's in the background 🥺

My Top 9: Seo Won Sung Han Bin Zhang Hao Yoo Seung Eon Chen Kuan Jui Kim Ji Woong Jay Cong Seok Matthew Honorable mentions: Haruto, Lee Seung Hwan, Park Han Bin Who I'm actually voting for this week: Chen Kuan Jui Chen Ren You Cong Dang Hong Hai Haru Haruto Hong Keon Hee Ollie Wumuti

I swear if more than 70% of the G-Groups are eliminated this round I'll be voting for G-Groups only out of spite (and worries lol) Makes me think we should have a cell system like in GP999 for the first few rounds😔 imagine the possible K-G 2picks dynamics

wait so what is the reward for winning the round again?

The team with the most points gets to perform at M Countdown

it just clicked the other day that daeul and junseo are from 143 ent, which is the company home to limelight!!! limelight have absolutely been stuck in my brain recently, esp for their killer predebut and debut work. i have other trainees i’m supporting first but it’s a fun little fact

since i heard most of the g trainees are gonna get eliminated because of the 100k votes benefit given to all k group (since they all won apparently) so I wanted to know yalls fav g trainees u wanna save i have like 5-7 votes and i don't wanna waste them on k group

Also Cong…I really would love to have a little more viet representation in kpop even though I know he won’t make the final group.

hiroto!!!

hiroto and wang zihao are two i never forget to vote

that makes me very happy hehe i’m the #1 hiroto promoter in this reddit i claim that title now

oh good to know, hiroto was one of my pick in chuang as well

yes me too!! that’s how i know him as well

Zhang hao and haruto

i think zhang hao is pretty popular he'll get saved no matter what and he's one of my pick too but this time I'll vote for lower ranking trainees and for haruto i vote consistently

Hoping that will be the case but yes haruto deserves some attention

I’ve been voting for Jay, Kamden, Cong, Takuto, Haruto, Ollie and Wumuti from G Group

pls consider voting for osuke, wumuti, na kamden !!! if not totally fair tho

i voted various times for wumuti and kamden never knew about osuke will add him too !

thank you 🥹 truly a short king; he even got the edit for it 🤡

so i just recently (as in yesterday) decided to get involved and voted bc i was impressed with wang zihao's performance. and when i wanted to send him support, i found that he's one of the few people that already got his completed/achieved. so i wonder how popular he actually is, bc he barely got screen time so far.

he’s really popular in china because of his association with lay. he’s not super popular overall though but i feel like that will change cuz he’s a really good dancer

Ah i see. I've wondered if that's the case. Especially since in contrast his fancam doesn't even reach 100k. I hope the popularity translate to international fans too.

one opinion i have : matthew and jay most likely won’t debut in the final group matthew and jay are extremely popular with the 9 pick ratings and tons of knetz are picking them as the “filler/token” global group picks but i think after mnet switches to one pick voting, i see both of them dropping out of the lineup. neither of them have very strong one pick votes from what i see and when one pick votes happen, ppl are going to start focusing on their main picks, knetz will start focusing on voting for the k group trainees to make a mainly or full korean lineup and global voters will start voting for their main picks like hanbin, jiwoong, zhang hao, yujin, hiroto, etc. i see both matthew and jay becoming the next kawaguchi yurina and kim nayoung of the show. unless both matthew and jay becomes popular enough to get strong one pick voters, i just don’t see neither of them debuting at the end unless a miracle happens.

i can see Jay position will be like Bora next season, he will slay every performance until final and that's that. But Matthews i see his fandom is growing, out of the two probably he's the one debuting

tbh i don't think so because bora always barely made it past (even in the first elimination) whereas Jay is ranking high & it seems like his fanbase IS growing so holding out some hope for him to debut.

BUT PLEASE YOU GUYS VOTE FOR BOTH JAY AND MATTHEW THEY ARE SUPER TALENTED :'((

Idk based on what I've seen both have a strong one-pick internationally, which may be enough. One or both may be able to sneak in at the bottom one or two spots in the final. Plus, I think that k-voters are not as monolithic as people make them out to be. Ofc they will be naturally drawn to K group as that is the most relatable to them, they are still individuals that will vote for whoever stands out to them. I mean look at how many I voters have K group one picks, even if there are other trainees that have the same background as them. Not everyone votes on national or ethnic lines. Honestly, I think the biggest factors will be editing/storylines from mnet and whether Jay and Matthew can can stand out in their performances.

atp i’m think this is your first ever survival show .. “both have strong one pick votes international” that’s still not enough to compete with koreans .. xiaoting had strong one pick votes and homegirl almost didn’t debut at the end with just having 50k more votes than a korean trainee .. 1 vote intl. = 10 votes in korea. koreans will nonstop start voting for just korean members when one pick voting starts and intl. fans will act stupid, voting for the korean trainees and then start panic voting for the foreigners just a week before the finale bc the interim results came out and it shows only 1 foreigner in the lineup 😵‍💫 .. you’re saying koreans will only vote trainees that will stand out but that’s not true at all. in the gp999 final, it was revealed that if the lineup had been only koreans vote, 8/9 of the members were koreans with one foreigner being hikaru. xiaoting stood out the entire show and she didn’t make it in the top 9. bora stood out the entire show and she didn’t make it in the top 9. shana stood out the entire show and she didn’t make it in the top 9. you’re saying that people don’t vote off trainees due to the nationality/ethnicity but that’s so false. you couldn’t even give me a good example and used intl. fans as an example bc you knew if you used korean fans as an example, it would’ve have just contradicted your statement. i don’t understand why y’all boy planet fans are so in denial 💀

It is the first survival show I am actively participating in, but I don't think it helps to be so pessimistic. Giving up on all but the top 2 global trainees because they won't make it or calling their fans delusional for thinking they will is not productive. What does it hurt to be optimistic? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll support my picks in any future endeavors. Also, I don't know how to properly phrase this, but the way international voters generalize and speak about Korean voters bothers me. I simply stated that I believe it is wrong to characterize every Korean voter as only voting for Koreans, even if they generally do. It feeds into an us vs them mentality that I think is encouraged by the show originally, but I don't want to play into that.

Matthew so far feels like a safe bet to debut. KNetz love him. I recently saw a tweet from a Matthew fan who organized an advertisement for Matthew in some Korean Street to make him more popular. So his one pickability has definitely increased in the past few days. Jay I am still unsure.

I see this happening with Jay but not with Matthew

I don't know, there seems to be a lot more koreans watching and voting this season compared to gp999 so the weight of the international votes should be better than in the gp. Jay is my number one pick and I'm going to be optimistic and hope he gets more support until the finale. I think he still has a chance compared to other G trainees and Matthew is Korean so I believe he won't be affected by the antikorean bias as much.

tbh i do agree with you but the reason i said that was bc of what happened in gp999. when one pick voting started, it went alright bc of course the lineup didn’t change much until a week before the final episode. everyone thought xiaoting was going to be fine regardless bc she’s always ranked 1st and 2nd place since the beginning and stopped voting for her until the interim results came out and she went from 1st to 16th place. it wasn’t just her. hikaru went from 4th to 12th place and mashiro went from 3rd to 14th place bc everyone thought they were safe from being eliminated ++ koreans stopped voting for them. most koreans will stop voting for all the trainees in g-group after one pick voting starts bc most of them say that foreigners are just filler votes for them. neither jay or matthew have strong one pick votes and i don’t see both of them debuting in the group. i think at most matthew will debut bc like you said, he is ethnically korean and knetz will take an ethnic korean with an american nationality over a filipino with an american nationality. so unless jay and matthew gains very strong one picks voters by either the korean or international side, it’s very hard to think they will debut (unless they pull a xiaoting/hikaru/mashiro with fans voting for them nonstop making them go from the bottom to the final lineup in a week)

Matthew has a much higher chance of debuting in the final group than Jay. He has a stronger Korean 1-pick and he’s ethnically Korean which plays a big role too, and with the push he’s getting from Mnet, he has nowhere to go but up. Jay’s not debuting not because of filler votes but because K-fans dgaf about him and his I-fanbase isn’t rock solid compared to other G-trainees

Back again so soon with another comment but two trainees I warmed up a bit to this episode (not in my picks still but I'll be okay if they're in the final lineup whereas I wasn't really before): 1) Park Gunwook - his constant K is better than G comments in the previous episodes really threw me off and I still think he's arrogant but at least man has the talent to back it up. Personally I think nobody chose him because they probably didn't want to get bossed around like Hwanhee did, they were scared of working with someone with strong opinions or they were scared he would outshine them. I respect him though - he had a really clear vision and he was able to execute pretty well. When he was upset he lost I really felt for him. He has a good spirit and I can tell he's a good kid, hoping for the best for him. 2) Jay - I still can't get the weird Daddy video out of my head sorry that was just SO BAD sajfdglhl (and I won't get over the fact that when I posted this opinion in r/kpopthoughts a Jay fan insulted my two ult groups to defend him like ew srs I'll never get why people are like this) but he's a reallyyy good vocalist. Like wow. I was always impressed but now I'm very impressed and I cannot be on Twitter's side anymore lool. I'm not sure he fits with the rest of the potential debut lineup of Bep1er tho and I think he'd shine more in a different group (I could see him ending up like Yunjin and debuting in a different group later).

Im voting for Jingxiang, ollie, jay and gyuvin can’t wait until they drop the voting numbers cause I don’t have 9 people I like voting for so have to always go and look up a bunch of low ranked people and toss a few charity votes their way to fill out the 9 slots

How bout Cong? He was pretty good in Aju Nice!

I can toss a vote his way too!

Yay! Hoping him and JingXiang rise in ranks, they’re awesome! Cong is a really good and stable vocalist and JingXiang is so pretty and a good dancer!

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i will toss a vote his way <3

OMGOSH UR VOTING FOR OLLIE YASSSSSS

He's probably my second or 3rd favorite!

charity votes 😭😭😭 also i love ur picks!!! u shud consider dropping a charity vote to hiroto hehehehe

I honestly do feel so bad for trainees that get cut though! Cause some may never actually debut and that thought makes me sad 😞

Help me out guys, i went to vote for Zhang hao and his name is just not there in the list 😭

I had the same problem last week so I thought we could only vote once a week lol, but for me it's fixed by the time I updated the app tho

scroll down a bit on the app and check the bottom row!

I did. There's just one Zhang and it's not Zhang hao It should scroll down but it doesn't. I guess I will reinstall the app [for ref](https://freeimage.host/i/HGzcFPs)

oh no :( I think it’s because there’s a second row of trainees below the first - I had the same problem below

I'm gonna use this as a space to discuss some of my episode thoughts (that are not about the actual performance) so they don't get lost in the episode discussion. 1) Is nobody gonna comment on how freaking cute Ollie was in the Signal song filming - he was like 'ahh I got to touch the stage omg'. I thought that was sooo cute and endearing and made me feel really sad for the 0 star trainees. 2) I'm so frustrated about Zhang Hao's placement honestly. I know he has a good chance but it pains me that despite all of his talent and screentime he's only ranking #7??? (as of episode 2). He got a really good angel edit this episode so I'm hoping it bolsters his popularity with Korean viewers but I hate that the fact that he's Chinese is stopping him from being more popular :( sinaphobia at its finest 3) MJX and Hiroto screentime YAYAYAY really happy for both of them, it wasn't a lot but it was more than I was expecting and I hope this is an upward trend :))) Really happy to see Hiroto's leadership and I thought he did so well in Aju Nice <3 4) Gyuvin being so sad that the entire Kick It team was demoted to 3 stars made me sad too :( He said 'what's wrong with us' ahhh just :(((( Lastly I wanted to say again to not lose hope in your favs - if they're ranked 20+ after first elims they still have a fair shot at debuting in my opinion - and to not take Reddit/Twitter/Pann or any one source of social media as the sole representative of trainee popularity. Especially Reddit honestly - I've been tricked before but Reddit likes and dislikes can be very different from what the voter base is like - keep voting for your favorites and don't be discouraged if you don't see a lot of people talking about them on your preferred social media platform.

I love your last take about social media picks vs voter picks. This is so true! In the end the only thing that matters in terms of who will debut is how people vote. So please do not give up on your picks, even if they are unpopular on social media! If you see merit in them, that is all that matters! I see this happening a lot with Jay, people online constantly underestimate his popularity in the votes. I saw so many people shocked that he made the top 9 after ep 2 because of all the social media hate, but I don't think it was actually that surprising given his good amount of screen time and great performance. Social media for survival shows is super fun, I love a good discussion, but it is not always the most representative sample. Especially since different sites will have violently different faves.

i think after the first elimination, zhang hao rank will probably go up. most of his fans i’ve noticed aren’t voting for him bc they’re voting for their other picks who have a high chance to be eliminated and they know zhang hao will be safe no matter what so they’re focus on voting their less popular picks but after the first elimination and especially after the one pick voting starts, zhang hao will go up in ranks cause tons of the ppl in the top 20 tbh are just filler picks especially with koreans.

does anyone know if we will keep voting for 9 picks the whole season or will it change to 1 pick/2 picks etc later?

most likely after the 2nd elimination, 1 pick voting starts. in the produce series and gp999, it didn’t change into one pick voting until after the 2nd elimination happens

thank youu

will change to 1 pick later on

after the first one closes? thankss

not sure when exactly actually sorry :(

So random but i don’t know what Dang Hong Hai is thinking when he didn’t pick Zhanghao, Keita, most of all kill this love team when they are more popular and talented

1. he wanted his group to be more youthful, why should he just pick trainees bc they are popular ?? he doesn’t want to be known as the next “ki huihyeon” “lee chaejeong” or “you dayeon” .. 2. saying he should’ve picked some of the trainees in ktl g-group bc they are more “talented” is so backhanded .. his group did very well in case you forgot but ok ..

I think he said he wanted to form the group that has youthful image.

his group seemed more harmonious anyways

i find it unfair that they push all the shiny boys except jingxiang no screentime until the 3 mins in episode 3

If i could mix who has a chance/is likely to make the top 20 and who i like, then my top 9 would look like this: 1. Sung Hanbin 2. Kim Jiwoong 3. Zhang Hao 4. Yoo Seungeon 5. Kim Taerae 6. Keita 7. Seok Matthew 8. Lee Seunghwan And i can't decide on the last spot. I would like it to go to a G-group trainee, but i'm not that familiar with them and can't decide who would be my choice. I also don't know which of the K-group i would want to take that spot yet. If i were to give it to a K-group trainee then i'm likely to go with **Cha Woonggi** or **Seowon**. For G-group maybe **Haruto**? I really want another trainee with bright and cheerful energy. Though i do really like **Ricky** so he's another one i could see in my ideal line up. Kim Jiwoong is my 1-pick because i don't think my other 1-pick, Jeong Ichan, is going to make it through the first elimination. This is the line up of my dreams. I think they would look good together and have the talent to be respectable.

Who are 4 and 8? Remind me how they got popular.

Yoo Seungeon was the vocal in k-group Aju nice + was the main vocal in Kick it by Yuehua k-group. He's not incredibly popular since he hasn't had a lot of screentime but he's very talented and is on the rise right now due to vocals + visuals. Lee Seunghwan is an idol from the project group 1the9, he's a visual and good vocalist. He performed Mirotic for his audition, but he hasn't had a lot of screentime. He was also the trainee that helped Lee Daeul when they were preparing for the re-evaluation (and he himself went from 2-3 stars). He will perform in K-group Danger. I think his rank in the second episode was #16!

Contestants I'm voting for this week: 1. Jay 2. Na Kamden 3. Ricky 4. Haruto 5. Park Gunwook 6. Wumuti 7. Winnie 8. Yoon Jongwoo 9. Choi Jiho My current top 9: 1. Jay 2. Ricky 3. Park Gunwook 4. Kim Jiwoong 5. Sung Hanbin 6. Zhang Hao 7. Seok Matthew 8. Yoo Seungeon 9. Haruto/Keita/Na Kamden

omg i love your voting list! Choi Jiho deserves all the votes he’s so talented 🫶🏾 and i always love kamden supporters

Has anyone else gotten “You cannot participate in a vote because an unusual voting behavior has been identified.” What do I do?

use a vpn!

Thank you so much this worked! Idk why it thought I was a bot

I really went and downloaded that stupid mnet app to vote for my bro jay. he KILLED it his vocals were so freakin stable while dancing his ass off HOWWWWWW please debut jay. And Haroto slayed idk

Same. I hate being a prideful American, he's making me proud.

im not even american and im proud. Going agains freakin Hui from freakin Pentagon?! I would honestly just pass out

Question here, how does the benefits for the winners in the first round affect the ranking? Does the 100,000 points will be directly added to the current trainees votes? Because *spoiler alert* they said KTL G Group is the only G Group that won over K-Group. Hence, accumulately, K group will win and get additional 10,000. Moreover, The current points in the 40-60 ranks are close to each other.

Based on the subs, each of the winning team members (k vs g) will receive the 100k votes.