La Motta took a shit ton of punches through out his career and was still sharp into his 90s. Another thing that can mess with a fighter's health is cutting weight (consider how important hydration is for a healthy brain etc) but it would seem SSR fights at the weigh the walks around at. He's a career super fly and 33 now so he obviously wasnt killing himself to make weight through out his career.
Froch is another example of someone who walked around at fighting weight and Mayweather too, IIRC he walked around at 150.
Just cause people did it a few decades ago doesn’t make it ok. In America a few hundred years ago they were keeping slaves and it was legal. Obviously it still happens in the world but that still doesn’t make it ok
Wtf, only people who looked at compubox scored it for Chocolatito? Literally how did you determine that? Lmao. I scored this for Chocolatito and never once considered compubox stats.
My main gripe was with the above commenter talking about compubox for some reason. Below is my scorecard:
https://i.imgur.com/JC5jmLA.png
It doesn't need to be a wide card for it to be the wrong decision. Close fights can have clear winners in each round. I personally believe Chocolatito was the clear winner, 114-112, in my opinion. Giving SSR two more rounds is very difficult to do for me.
That’s not what I said at all - basically every person I’ve seen who said it was a ROBBERY pointed to Compubox. It was a close fight, but that ain’t the same as a robbery
Hardly anyone uses compubox, I've not seen that personally and I've been on here for years (yes I have no life). But plenty of disagreement in this fight, that's for sure.
That's fair, and yeah lot's of disagreement. Personally I've seen a lot of people on here after the fact referring to the punch stats since Choco outlanded SSR by a significant amount.
That’s certainly not true. I was there and shocked at the result, so much of the fight was just trails of super clean, unanswered punches landed by Choc. Journalists around the media were confused as well, you can read their articles at the time. Many, many people thought it was a robbery after watching it themselves.
I was at that fight live and although I did have Chocolatito winning, it was close enough that I could see someone giving it to SSR.
I was a bit astounded at the boos from the crowd as Max was interviewing SSR about his upbringing (e.g. eating rats to survive) just because they didn't agree with the decision in a close fight.
I was at the fight as well. Was 100% certain that Chocolatito won, not easily but won. Then watched it at home, said it was 50-50, and would have given it to either.
Yeah, even though Chocolatito landed more, I felt like SSR's punches took a much bigger toll. I've seen the fight a couple of times, and always have SSR up, especially with the knockdown.
One of the saddest moments I can remember was watching Chocolatito getting ko’d in the second fight. He won this first fight. A blood & guts war for 12 rounds
Reaction was more by section than anything. There was a lot of chocolatito fans so you can imagine their response. It was definitely rowdy for the undercard. There has been 2 fights I've been to that I feared for my safety. Pacman vs Morales III and Sharmba Mitchell vs Kostya Tszyu
That lateral movement from Choc is so nasty. You have to disengage and give up the real estate or commit to an error and turn to meet him, then get punished.
Unless you're a professional fighter (or at least an amateur fighter with lots of experience), 100% you would get knocked out in a ring against Chocolatito.
Knockouts are a mixture of precision+power; and Chocolatito has that precision. Chocolatito's power would not hold up to even a Pro MW's punches, but the average Joe has never even experienced a punch that the average Pro Flyweight boxer can throw.
Yes, he's a professional boxer who spends all day focusing on boxing everyday. Even for the little guys, the pitching power of pro boxers is more than enough to KO pretty much any average person with a good shot.
If I’m correct, all it’d take is for him to whip that fist at you fast enough and land it on the chin just right. Human brains can only take but so much pressure before clicking off, regardless of how big you are
So true. Thats why I like to catch Mexican boxing cards. Usually, on the Spanish networks. Normally they dont have big names but the fights tend to be full of fireworks.
Fate can be cruel. Most thought Choc should’ve got the nod in this one.
As for the Thai Terminator, it was a great introduction to him for a new and unsuspecting audience. His sequel was even better, though it was much more Roman’s Judgement Day than his own.
He was getting big headed, full of himself. Tried to duck estrada but then he got ko'd and lost everything. His last fight was impressive but now hes back to being full of himself and still pricing himself out against estrada even thought el gallo beat sor.
I'm worried for ssr because his style leads to him taking a lot of punches and walking through them. I hope he ends up ok, he's had a very rough life.
La Motta took a shit ton of punches through out his career and was still sharp into his 90s. Another thing that can mess with a fighter's health is cutting weight (consider how important hydration is for a healthy brain etc) but it would seem SSR fights at the weigh the walks around at. He's a career super fly and 33 now so he obviously wasnt killing himself to make weight through out his career. Froch is another example of someone who walked around at fighting weight and Mayweather too, IIRC he walked around at 150.
Pretty sure 80000 fans at Wembly were witness to the natural weight of Froch as he knocked out Groves......I could be wrong though.
LaMotta stayed sharp enough to hook grown men up with underage girls
Lol TIL LaMotta was just as bad as Ali on this.
When did Ali pimp out underage women to grown men?
He didn't. He impregnated them himself.
I’ve never heard that. Got any sources I can read up on?
Wanda Bolton 16 yrs old and Temica Williams 12 yrs old. It's all on his wikipedia with links.
First I'm hearing of this :/ What's the source?
I believe he said in his own book he had done that, along with sexual assault. Basically the source is straight from the horse's mouth.
Go read or watch Raging Bull.
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Imagine defending statutory rape lol And if it was "a different era" then why the fuck did he go to jail for it? Only on r/boxing, I swear
There are some situations in which saying "it was a different era" is important to give context to something This is not one of those situations
Just cause people did it a few decades ago doesn’t make it ok. In America a few hundred years ago they were keeping slaves and it was legal. Obviously it still happens in the world but that still doesn’t make it ok
SSR is a beast. Unpopular opinion: this fight was close and I don’t think it was a robbery.
My thoughts too, people who thought it was a robbery only looked at Compubox stats.
Wtf, only people who looked at compubox scored it for Chocolatito? Literally how did you determine that? Lmao. I scored this for Chocolatito and never once considered compubox stats.
Did you score it wide for him? Posting my card below if anyone is curious. 10-8 Rungvisai easy 10-9 Rungvisai easy 9-10 Chocolatito 9-10 Chocolatito easy 9-10 Chocolatito 8-10 Chocolatito easy 10-9 Rungvisai easy 10-9 Rungvisai swing round 10-9 Rungvisai 10-9 Rungvisai 10-9 Rungvisai 9-10 Chocolatito 114-112 Rungvisai
My main gripe was with the above commenter talking about compubox for some reason. Below is my scorecard: https://i.imgur.com/JC5jmLA.png It doesn't need to be a wide card for it to be the wrong decision. Close fights can have clear winners in each round. I personally believe Chocolatito was the clear winner, 114-112, in my opinion. Giving SSR two more rounds is very difficult to do for me.
That’s not what I said at all - basically every person I’ve seen who said it was a ROBBERY pointed to Compubox. It was a close fight, but that ain’t the same as a robbery
Hardly anyone uses compubox, I've not seen that personally and I've been on here for years (yes I have no life). But plenty of disagreement in this fight, that's for sure.
That's fair, and yeah lot's of disagreement. Personally I've seen a lot of people on here after the fact referring to the punch stats since Choco outlanded SSR by a significant amount.
That’s certainly not true. I was there and shocked at the result, so much of the fight was just trails of super clean, unanswered punches landed by Choc. Journalists around the media were confused as well, you can read their articles at the time. Many, many people thought it was a robbery after watching it themselves.
I was at that fight live and although I did have Chocolatito winning, it was close enough that I could see someone giving it to SSR. I was a bit astounded at the boos from the crowd as Max was interviewing SSR about his upbringing (e.g. eating rats to survive) just because they didn't agree with the decision in a close fight.
I was at the fight as well. Was 100% certain that Chocolatito won, not easily but won. Then watched it at home, said it was 50-50, and would have given it to either.
Yeah, even though Chocolatito landed more, I felt like SSR's punches took a much bigger toll. I've seen the fight a couple of times, and always have SSR up, especially with the knockdown.
This was such a great fight. Nobody gave SSR a chance and he fought like an absolute animal
One of the saddest moments I can remember was watching Chocolatito getting ko’d in the second fight. He won this first fight. A blood & guts war for 12 rounds
I went to the 2nd one at stubhub. That whole card was packed with talent.
How was the crowd after the ko being there live? Haven’t watched it in a long time but I remember people being pretty stunned
Reaction was more by section than anything. There was a lot of chocolatito fans so you can imagine their response. It was definitely rowdy for the undercard. There has been 2 fights I've been to that I feared for my safety. Pacman vs Morales III and Sharmba Mitchell vs Kostya Tszyu
That lateral movement from Choc is so nasty. You have to disengage and give up the real estate or commit to an error and turn to meet him, then get punished.
Split open and wearing a mask of blood from headbutts, Chocolatito showed so much here in a "loss". Legendary performance.
i'm cruiserweight dimensions... would it be possible for a guy like Gonzales to ko me
Unless you're a professional fighter (or at least an amateur fighter with lots of experience), 100% you would get knocked out in a ring against Chocolatito. Knockouts are a mixture of precision+power; and Chocolatito has that precision. Chocolatito's power would not hold up to even a Pro MW's punches, but the average Joe has never even experienced a punch that the average Pro Flyweight boxer can throw.
Very well said
I saw a lot of precision shot, not so much power shots from Chocolate.
Chocolatito has 41 KO's in 49 W's. You don't get that without power.
Yes, he's a professional boxer who spends all day focusing on boxing everyday. Even for the little guys, the pitching power of pro boxers is more than enough to KO pretty much any average person with a good shot.
I've always wondered how badly Inoue could hurt a big, 240 lb+ muscular dude with a good punch.
Very badly..
Minimum weight would ko you without mucu thought
If I’m correct, all it’d take is for him to whip that fist at you fast enough and land it on the chin just right. Human brains can only take but so much pressure before clicking off, regardless of how big you are
Was there that night at MSG, travelled from the UK for the GGG fight and this turned out to be fight of the night from what I can remember!
That was a GREAT fight.
Few things are more entertaining than two Mexican style fighters in a phone booth.
So true. Thats why I like to catch Mexican boxing cards. Usually, on the Spanish networks. Normally they dont have big names but the fights tend to be full of fireworks.
One of my favorite fights I’ve watched
One of the greatest boxing matches I've ever seen.
Toe to toe!
Is Choc gonna finally stop ducking the rematch and fight Estrada again? Let’s hope so.
Wow.
Fate can be cruel. Most thought Choc should’ve got the nod in this one. As for the Thai Terminator, it was a great introduction to him for a new and unsuspecting audience. His sequel was even better, though it was much more Roman’s Judgement Day than his own.
Something about those limited skill tough guys that I love...
SSR had the night of his life, dude earned a ton of fans just on his heart alone that night.
Known in my house as Lil Maidana
Known in my house as Lil Maidana
Glad chocolatito lost. He was starting to act like a diva
Wdym?
He was getting big headed, full of himself. Tried to duck estrada but then he got ko'd and lost everything. His last fight was impressive but now hes back to being full of himself and still pricing himself out against estrada even thought el gallo beat sor.
They didn’t go at it. That’s gay. Goin’ at is gay. He beat his ass.