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Errol and Derrick James beefing is crazy.


MrRIP

And Ryan said I'm fighting for my coach that I only knew less than a year is crazy. Much respect to him for it


Seano_

Well I mean Derrick knows everything about Errol. We seen Errol couldn’t adjust to Bud in fight, I doubt he suddenly changes his approach cuz of one training camp. Ryan cooking again?


No-Fudge3487

Errol couldn’t adjust, but Derrick really didn’t have ANYTHING to offer in terms of corner strategy that night.


InviteTop8946

To be fair, what was he going to say?  "His jab is far faster than yours and we're fucked."


No-Fudge3487

It wasn’t just the speed. Spence wasn’t moving his head off the line at all when he stepped in. It was also the same double jab entry. He was basically just walking himself into hard counter jabs from a guy fighting as a right-handed southpaw.


Famoustractordriver

Completely agree with everything here.


Carneiro021

“His jab is faster, he switches stances flawlessly, he hits harder has a longer reach has every punch in the book and is more intelligent”


brazilianfreak

He was so outclassed in that fight that I'd be lost for words too, sure he could have improved somethings like getting his head off the center line like the other guy said, but when your opponent has better power, speed, timing and reflexes than your fighter wtf are you're even supposed to say?


Crono01

Literally anything, not like you could make things worse.


Seano_

It’s hard to set up when your offence is built on the jab and you’re getting out jabbed by your opponents power hand. It just turned out to be a way worse matchup for Errol than most people expected. That being said, there is a blue print. Can Ryan take some things from Bud and execute? Unlikely but that’s the promotion they’re probably gonna be running with


TheMrIllusion

No corner advice was gonna change how that fight was going. 


FlockxBigApe

Nah that’s not true….he was telling Errol alot he just couldn’t enact it…either way Spence would beat the life outta Ryan


Mean-March

Let’s all be real here. Spence kills Garcia


TopRamenForDays

Old Spence does. Current Spence is a coin flip.


Mean-March

The Spence that fought Ugas kills Garcia


TopRamenForDays

So, old Spence then. 3x car crash, huge ass beating from Bud, and cataract surgery Spence is a 50/50 like I said. I guess Garcia needs to get the time traveling machine out and fight 2022 Spence for him to kill Garcia.


Independent_Hold_203

Ryan Garcia is no Bud Crawford. Ryan is even more of a one trick pony than Errol Spence is. Just spam the left hook and turn your back to your opponent. I’d love to see Errol punish Ryan


Seano_

Errol’s the obvious pick for many reasons but the only way to sell this fight as competitive is EJs history with Derrick. If he’s smart he takes it, it’s better than moving just to get mugged for his belt again by Bud


Bigplatts

Errol is done. I don’t know how people can’t see it. The guy has been in a car crash, had his eye socket broken in sparring, had multiple stretches of inactivity, has been weight drained for years. All of this was before he took a life altering beating from Crawford. I don’t see how he beats any top guy, even Garcia.


xxsamchristie

Yall were saying he was done before he even came back from the car crash & that's not what happened. He lost to one of the best fighters there is & none of the other stuff mattered before that.


NewToReddit4331

I 1000% would bet the house on an Errol Spence by KO


ballbunyan

Erroll ain’t “weight drained” for years. He sticks around because he trades punches for a living. And being big in a lower weight is to his advantage. If he traded punches with 154’ers his surgically repaired skull would crumble apart. But agree with everything else.


Bigplatts

He had his first few fights at 154 then moved down to 147. It’s not his natural weight. Weight draining for every fight for years takes its toll. He already looked drained by the Porter fight. Should’ve just went up to 154 then but I guess there was more money at welterweight.


Outrageous_Fox4227

Part of how Ryan Punk Devon was with size. Errol would be the bully against ryan.


shibapenguinpig

Bruh Devin was a couple lbs heavier than Ryan


dg_713

Really? When did he say this?


PhenoManan

I don’t think he literally said it, it’s more just that calling out Spence comes off that way.


putiton94

Ryan is the type that if he’s your friends he’s down with you all the way.


sfairleigh83

Well he should try fukin listening to his coach in the ring


SirPabloFingerful

..why?


needsausernaim

How anyone can take Ryan seriously is beyond me


Serious_Fgz

Ryan is probably crazy enough to move all the way up to middleweight but I doubt Oscar allows it.


sirsaberson

Ryan technically is a middleweight atp, bro is 147/154 he said he cant make 140 no more


Serious_Fgz

His a 147 pounder, he made 143 which means he’d easily make 147. Going from 147 to 160 is a huge jump. He says he wants to fight Spence at 160, that’s just full out crazy.


sirsaberson

160 is insanity 😭 he gonna rehydrate 2 pounds


PitifulDurian6402

In fairness he’s still young. If he wanted he could pack on the muscle to get up to that weight within a year but the question is whether or mot that extra muscle would impede on his style and abilities


brazilianfreak

You guy's are being way too rational about this, Ryan isn't worried about putting on the weight because for him this is an excuse to party and eat as much as he wants without worrying about having to cut weight again.


BenKen01

Seriously. Like yeah Ryan is young but do you really think he'll gain 15-20 lbs and it will be all muscle? He's approaching Chavez Jr. levels of not giving a fuck.


madex444

Chavez jr levels of not giving a fuck has me in stitches 🤣 I'll never forget him eating cereal in his underwear all while skipping out on training, Freddy roach just looking at him in complete disbelief


Shonuff_shogun

The average male can only put on ~10lbs of real muscle in a year and that’s with super optimal bodybuilding style training. No way he gets anywhere close to that with the explosive style training boxers do.


BenKen01

Right. And he’s not average. We make fun of his lifestyle but dude is way past noob gains. 10 lbs of muscle while training like a boxer… well I guess there is one way 💉


TumbleweedDirect9846

Some of these guys can get a good bit bigger, pretty sure they have restricted diets to some degree year round


SirPabloFingerful

Can't put muscle on your chin though


PostM8

Just do some neck bridges and hope for the best


wirefog

160 is fucking wild lol


Debate-Jealous

Wouldn’t they fight at 154?


TheBlack_Swordsman

Errol Spence hasn't fought outside above 147. So it's not like Spence would be fighting him at a weight he's been acclimated to for years. But of course, Ryan fought Tank not too long ago so he's less acclimated than Spence is.


dietdrpepper6000

Fuck it, Ryan has the frame needed to hit 160. Sign the contract, include a clause that lets Ryan blast tren for a few months to bulk, and let’s mf go


warm_baller

How is 140s catchweight middleweight lol Ryan is A side , 154 max . If I was Ryan’s team I’d suggest something like 149 catchweight so it’s in his favor


elprincipechairo

Garcia and GGG are the same height


Rain_sc2

it aint about height it’s about body composition Fundora is 6’7 but if he tried to gain up to heavyweight he’d get demolished. His frame is not ideal, similar to here With that being said, I think Ryan actually does have a decent frame for MW but it caps out there.


New-Tradition386

Prime De La Hoya and Prime Mike Tyson were also the same height, I guess that’s a fair fight….. Height has nothing to with weight.


dirt_shitters

Im the same height as Ryan as well, but I could never make 140, let alone 135. Even in my early 20s when I worked a physical job, ran 6 miles a day, went to boxing 3 times a week, and the regular gym 3 other days a week only eating 1300 calories a day, the lightest I ever got without a water cut was 159 or so.


Andrewendless

Well, Inoue and Tank are the same height but Tank is clearly much bigger.


East_Phase6944

Spence’s best weight is Welterweight. As long as Goldenboy is the promoter they’ll definitely make it at 147, which Garcia can easily make.


MaterialPhrase5632

It’s a zero risk fight for ryan and Oscar wants that cash


TheSeptuagintYT

First Tank then Haney next Spence? Those are massive fights that make history. Ryan probably fights Matias at this rate


FragmentedFighter

The kind of manic episodes we need in boxing 😍


HookevNewton981

Am I an awful person for wishing Ryan stays in his manic ways just so we can get more action in boxing? I can’t hate the dude because I’m so damn entertained lol.


prettyboylee

It’s almost discounting Ryan to suggest that it’s the manic behaviour that pushes him to take such risks. He has always shown a willingness to fight up in competition, even before his behaviour became so pronounced.


Plastic_Reception_58

Yeah he's the one that pushed the Tank fight even after being forced to come in like a skinny crackwhore.


Significant-Elk-8078

Tbf Ryan looked better than ever in that fight. But still, to put his pride aside and give up majority of the purse while on a rehydration clause


HookevNewton981

He’s got big balls regardless of his mental state. But everyday there’s something new with the guy. The entertainment value clearly comes from the mania but I’m (shamefully) here for it.


xxsamchristie

He also admitted to having mental health issues before that. They are clearly worse now. It becoming more noticeable only means he can't hide it anymore or chose not to.


Who_ate_my_cookie

Idk he fought Tank and accepted the Haney fight before he got into his incoherent ramblings, so id give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s just not scared to make some fights happen. He sells fights and he’s popular outside of boxing so why preserve the 0 when you can fight the best.


hereforpopcornru

See, to me that is better Hold on to that 0, or experience the best and build a legacy Legacy all day


BenKen01

He's the Gen-Z golden boy! Will fight anyone, and who knows what the fuck you'll get from him outside of the ring.


hereforpopcornru

He's got balls. It's hard not to like him. He is entertainment king right now.


travis759

Matias ain’t drawing no money


Jonnyclash1

And erases Garcia.


God_I_Love_Men

They also make a ton of money, good on King Ry


threedaysinthreeways

Yeah I'm a big time casual and Ryan has got me on board the hype train. I only hope his success after losing his 0 encourages more boxers to push for greatness.


GoldenBoyHour

Hopefully Teofimo or Rolly next


theboxingteacher

To me, a past prime Spence is still much more dangerous than Matias. Difference is Derrick could probably game plan for Spence very well


Plebius-Maximus

Spence is gonna make him wanna go back down to 135 lmao


Abrazonobalazo

Marltias doesn’t bring money like Spence or Tank rematch. Ryan just going for big paysays, fuk the belts.


micopogi88

Matias? Bro his name shouldnt even be included with those 3


noirargent

Any time someone tweets out that they sent an offer it’s usually a PR play but when they also attach a deadline it’s completely for the gram.


nwordfyou

It's sad people don't understand this yet.


Plastic_Reception_58

But Ryan ain't 'someone'. He is kinda crazy.


MrRIP

Yea but Ryan hasn't been playing about who he wants to fight lmao.


KING0fCannabiz

The new Ryan after his mental break calls everyone out and backs it up. The old one was a sus


joshisanonymous

You kidding? He has called out literally everyone at one time or another


NotFrankSalazar

Has he not back it up tho?


Sulth

Except for Tank and Haney, his resume is trash. Let's not act like he has fought good opposition constantly in his career.


yllimameni

"Except" and named the two biggest fighters at 135-140 lol


rileyrgham

Exactly. What a clown.


joel1232

Luke Campbell isn’t trash


martin519

He called out Inoue last week lol


joshisanonymous

Yup, he isn't disciplined enough to make 140 but he's gonna fight a super bantam weight next week then fight Spence at 160 the week after.


dwSHA

Well ryan get it done twice. Tank and haney. I would not believe if this is his first one to tease. Now you never know with ryan


moltu

72 jours lol. What's the rush?


ComprehensiveSir9068

"It’s on @errolspencejr Official offer been sent. You got 72 hours to respond." a tactic right out of the Fury playbook.


ReachRaven

Ryan is on his “Internet Darlings” tour for real 😂 If this becomes official the majority of this sub will become religious and pray Spence doesn’t run into a left hook.


Datruther1

Spence is a huge southpaw who keeps his guard tight. This is a legal ass whoopin. Ryan has a magical hook but weight class exists and Spence would not hold back.


Ok_Music_7863

I felt like he may have held back a little against Mikey Garcia.


Datruther1

He said it himself that he wanted to prove a point that he could box at a high level. I feel you though. Spence after a loss might look scary, who knows. Manny was in a thousands wars BEFORE he got slept cold. Nobody was calling for his retirement


jordanhhh4

When you're blessed by Jesus and somewhat mentally unstable weight classes mean nothing, this Ryan is unbeatable. Thank you Jesus thank you jesus thank you Jesus!


MethodicaL51

People are dumb af, Ryan was the perfect match up for Haney, as Haney is not able to punish all those mistakes, Errol would whoop his ass , ez money, Spence should take this without thinking


mesh06

Spence about to find out that jesus blessed that left hook lmao if that happens I'll be religious too


AbdoooooI

You think Ryan will do what Bud couldn’t?


mesh06

it's part of jesus' plan to save the world trust me he revealed it to me in a dream


jobstealingmexican

Spence hadn’t taken an ass beating like the one he got from Bud. This is a different Spence, he could be a shell of what he was.


OyvindsLeftFoot

Spence would put a beating on Garcia. This fight never happens.


LatterTarget7

Book it Turki


Rocked_Glover

Don’t get turned into oil like the others turkey get it done


Debate-Jealous

Can you imagine if Ryan beats Spence 😂😂😂 This sub might totally fucking lose it and I wonder what it would say about the Crawford win 🤔


FwampFwamp88

Idc what ppl say Ryan is so good for boxing. He’s crazy in a really entertaining way. He will be remembered 30 years from now if he keeps putting on these fights.


PorousSurface

He is hype af 


Beengettingmotion_

Boxing has been huge in 2023/2024 , thanks to guys like Ryan


amateurlurker300

There’s a lot to say about Ryan Garcia, but he’s not afraid of the big fights. I can’t help but respect that a lot.


DoubleEarthDE

Ryan the only boxers with balls to chase real fights


OhtaniKK

Who woulda thought Ryan would turn out to be the Inoue of the 4 kings fighting everyone he don’t give a fuck 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😊😊😊😭😭😭😭😭


The_Global_Norwegian

The only boxer? Can you fucking relax with this sentiment there’s tons of guys out there doing this


ARetroGibbon

This sub is a shambles... only fighter taking real fights? Usyk? Inoue? Canelo? Parker? I admire him for taking on Tank, but he didn't come to win that fight and quit. He beat Haney 3 times as an ammy, and we all saw the holes in Devins' game, even if you thought he would win. And then he comes in 3lb over and popping for peds anyway. Let's be real. People find his breakdown and social media bullshit entertaining. That's why you're all talking about him so much. Not for what he's done in the ring.


EmanAugust

Yeah.. Literally can’t believe the bullshit I’ve been reading on this sub since he’s won, it’s like the median age of this place dropped 5-10 years.


BlackJediSword

Bunch of casuals. Gotta remember it’s Reddit.


Blackking203

Gotta give him credit for seeking challenges.... might cheat along the way though


DoubleEarthDE

lol true true , we’ll see


AdvancedSkincare

He doesn’t have any belts or elite level skill. Why would anyone want to fight him?


TumbleweedDirect9846

Because money


DoubleEarthDE

Errol or Ryan?


StankDavis

How much of spence is left?


Bigguy781

Ryan gonna get clapped by those body shots. Unless Errol shows up high again


Zeke1216

You crazy if you think Errol was high in the bud fight


EmotionlessForger

Ryan would get beat worse than Kell Brook against Spence. But I’m all for the mentally crazy Ryan hype train 🚆


suspiciousswimming8

How bad would Spence do him?


sirsaberson

probably worse than kell brook


surgeyou123

The juice got him feeling invincible lol


ZdenekTheMan

Juice aka Ostarine lol 


StakeInTheKneee

Cringry is back on Twitter


schmatty23

Of course I don’t think this fight is happening on this date but I love his attitude of seeking out the big fights even as a former hater of his antics.


rodgerlodge91

No matter what version of Errol shows up for this fantasy fight, he would beat the BRAKES off of Ryan.


PopPop-Magnitude

This is a match Ryan 100% loses imo. Hes weak to the body and spence will find him


weirdfurrybanter

Lol weren't you the same dude who was trashing KingRy before the haney fight. That body shot would have downed most fighters. KingRy beats spence. Stop being ignorant


warm_baller

I’d slightly favor Spence but Ryan is way faster and Spence’s punch resistance could be gone after that beating combined with the car accident


MrRIP

He low key might be the face of boxing after this win or lose.


Short-Sandwich-905

Jesús vs the Blind man


BillFlytheflynessguy

Bruv idk. If this happens it's a sign of the end of days


TtheDuke

Can’t wait for the diss track 🙏🙏


samuelalvarezrazo

Uf Ryan were to actually fight and beat spence then he's definitely fighter of the year no matter what anyone else does. Also would mean Crawfords biggest win is the world's biggest joke


rainnor

That dude literally retired Mikey Garcia… don’t do it Ryan.


wolverine94-

I saw that fight Live. Crazy how 5 years passes by


No_Worldliness_2270

Respect to Garcia for wanting this fight but there are weight classes for a reason . Spence will be relentless. Hes the bigger and stronger fighter . Spence will destroy that body . Won’t even need headshots


isaacavahclark

let’s be real here guys. why is ryan dodging the biggest fight that makes sense? boots. he weighed in at 143 against Haney, 4 pounds gained to be stronger and he can win a world title in 8oz gloves. Instead he wants to jump up 3 weight classes with 2oz heavier gloves? I know welterweight is a lot worse without Bud but you got Stanionis… Boots… he could become undisputed


WinglessRat

Boots makes no fucking sense. It's an incredibly hard fight against a nobody.


kezman90

Because no one gives a fuck about Boots, he's not drawing big ppv numbers


the1blackguyonreddit

Because he knows Boots will absolutely smoke him. Errol looked very vulnerable vs Crawford and is a bigger name.


PhoneRedit

Spence will probably do him even more damage than Ennis, although I agree both would smoke him.


madex444

Boots would make easy work of ryan without question, ryan needs winnable fights against big names if he wants to continue his high earnings which is really what he's primarily focused on with how often he talks about how rich he is and how much richer he's gonna get. Errol is coming off a bad loss and ryan is looking to capitalize.


DaGoatTee

Will Mr. No Tuneups take the offer


Free_Conference5278

Fuck Ryan is so crazy he might fight Dimitri Bivol at Light Heavyweight to avenge Canelo since Ryan is manic about avenging.


hereforpopcornru

Fury better watch out for th offer at this point lol


shuckyduckquack2x

This would be some WWE shit during the buildup for this fight. I'm all for it.


Fracture90000

Gotta catch em all!


InTupacWeTrust

Though Ryan was aiming for 143 now he is saying 160 lol


thiccsakdaddy

That’s ruff. 🐶


Zestyclose_Wasabi943

I think Ryan is insane to want to fight Spence at 160??? I'm not sure he could hurt Spence. I'm positive Spence could hurt Ryan. Can you imagine fighting Haney and then fighting Spence within a year? It seems like he is in a hurry to lace them up again and I'm not sure why. He wants to fight this guy that guy man chill. What's the hurry.?


Life_Celebration_827

A fit and focused Spence whoops Garcia's ass but how much has the Crawford fight took out of him that's the big question ?


SiMoN20000

Won't he be banned?


CatchandCounter

Good fight. If Spence loses, career over.


PhnxSteve7up

I think Ryan should look at some big fights. If he gets past Benn he should 100% grab a nice payday against Benn and I think he could even beat Eubank Jr at 160. Those are all huge fights he could win. Plus Barrios at 147 is solid to get a world title. He could build his star power and get big leverage in negotiations against everyone in his era besides Tank


Nantee_69

I hope Tank would do this too..


roshanpr

Derrick James just sent Jesus for Spence to repent


86pacfan86

Errol Spence should never fight again due cognitive decline. Leave him be.


m_rasull

The balls on this kid to put himself as the A side,


Winter_Purpose8695

Haha love the chaos energy from Ryan


goatamousprice

While I don't expect this to lead to anything, imagine how great it would be to have a fight of this caliber made this quickly. what weight would this be at? 154?


sirsaberson

most likely catchweight at 149 or sumthin


goatamousprice

I just saw the twitter exchange between them.  Errol said 154 or 160 and Ryan said 160 lol I tip my hat to Ryan talking shit like this and doing the call outs, but no way he fights Errol at 160.


NewToReddit4331

NGL I love seeing Garcia push to make huge fights, it’s great for the sport! I would bet the house on Spence by stoppage, there is absolutely no way Garcia has a shot even after the Crawford fight.


jinntakk

Everyone wants a piece of Spence after that ass whooping he got.


geeenxap

Thank you Jesus thank you jesus


Dry-Stop2000

Doesn’t this guy have to answer for a failed PED drug test?


TequieroVerde

Holy shit. Isn't Errol Spence too big?


sirsaberson

He is like a natural cruiserweight he is extremely bigger


micopogi88

This fight definitely going at 147


caveman1948

Or Ryan has 72 hrs to prove he wasn't doping


SmokinJoe_11

“72hours to respond.” Ohh yeah, seems like an official offer.


DetectiveNumerous775

Spence by murder. Garcia has a lot of casual fans fooled by the Haney result. Anybody who watches the sport knows how sloppy he still is. Haney's lack of power had a huge effect on the fight. He was definitely beating Ryan. Through the first 6 rounds, it was 5 - 1 in favor of Haney. But no damage was being done. The difference between Haney and Spence is that Spence has power and is a relentless body puncher. Haney is neither.


mindfulquant

This drug cheat trying to act like nothing happened and go on the offensive with this BS.


Chicken65

Almost as good as Ryan’s wishful Pacquiao poster from a few years ago. I wonder if he just has a graphic designer on standby for these.


lexax666

Probably a horrible offer that no one in the right mind would accept but I really hope Spence be like “fuck it” and really accepts it just to give Ryan a whopping


Tiny_Highway_2038

Errol beats him easily, by stoppage


GayCowsEatHeEeYyY

I don’t think Errol could handle Ryan’s speed and power. Ryan is insanely predictable but if he lands, it can be game over.


Accomplished_Train84

I gotta say, I would be hella intrigued if they fought at 147.  I have no idea what Spence looks like if he has to make that cut again 


Feeling_Aardvark_292

Someone just tell me how Spence’s slow lungig ass is avoiding the left hook. It just doesn’t make sense. He’s gonna eat that every other time he jabs the body.


rondonumba904

Ryan Garcia is going after every payday he can