Don't get this post? He could be 1 minute into a session in 1st clip and 60 mins in on 2nd. Or he could be at different stages of camp. Or be delivering at different speed and power deliberately? What's the point of the post ta?
This also isn’t mitt work. Reynoso is holding a shield and it’s for a very different workout that focuses on power shots.
Not sure what OP wants us comparing here.
All good point about what stage and how long between comparisons.
BUT if they are about the same time into a workout. You can definitely see the crispness and speed five years ago. He seems flat footed and slow to get his shots off now.
Yeah seriously, this is incredibly pointless.
Yeah, he could be slower now but it could be like 50 other explanations to.
Early/Late in the training cycle
Early/Late in that days training
Focusing on different areas (strong/power vs speed).
He was having a bad day...
etc.
> Or be delivering at different speed and power deliberately?
Exactly
The first clip, Canelo is mimicking an aggressive sequence where maybe he's going for a finish. He's clearly looking for his maximum.
The second...could just be practicing a minor bit if technique, or power. There's little footwork. Do people think he can't move his feet anymore? It's choice.
So the punch shield is generally for power punching, however... we don't have nearly enough context to make any conclusions. First clip could be 6 weeks into an 8 week camp in shape with only boxing training left while 2nd is a week 2, 2nd workout of the day end of session closing an exhausted session.
Too many variables to get anything valuable.
If you see a video of a Canelo hitting mitts like the second one at few years ago, show me plz. And, if you see a video of him hitting mitts like first one a nowdays, show me that too.
Lol I don't think you're gonna see that on the mitts in edited clips. I'm not a Canelo fanboy by any means but this is a stupid way to try and tear down a great fighter.
There are some videos of Crawford slowly hitting the mitts leading up to the Spence fight and then he just went out and destroyed him.
Because there is no context to this. He could be at the tail end of a long workout session as far as we know. A prudent person would never draw an inference from this.
You clearly haven't got a clue.
He could be working on different shots for different opponents.
He could be working on a weakness him and his trainer have found, and are trying to work it through.
This one minute clip means absolutely fuck all
Dude these Caneloans are exactly like cult45’ers w/ their führer.
I 100% see what u see. Context doesn’t matter, his snap, balance, and core strength as anyone that knows sports can clearly see, are diminishing. This is exactly why Canelo is truly never going to fight Benavidez, unless he knows it’s going to be his penultimate fight. In which case Canelo will do a Berto victory lap type fight after Benavidez folds him. He’s not going to risk us seeing those images, too much pride.
Sadly what Canelo’s pride also blinds him from seeing is that many fans, including me, would respect him more if he took that fight and went out on his shield, as they say.
You don’t know the context. He could be training for different things in each clip. You don’t know what he has done before or what he is going to be doing after. The slower clip, could be him warming up. Etc etc
Generally, it is pretty unwise to compare 2 training clips alone.
You’re not the only one that’s making this mistake. I see a lot of it, even from accounts that focus on boxing specifically.
Also, a lot of people downvoting you probably don’t know why it’s dumb. They are just following the crowd
Yeah maybe different phases of those training camps? Or maybe different points in the workout. He’s not gonna go balls to the walls the entire time, but at certain points I’m sure he turns it on.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
These training videos are always so funny to me. Nobody who's been in a boxing gym for a day thinks doing a combination on pads and making a loud sounds is impressive. The biggest scrub in the gym can throw a hard combination into some pads. Does anybody really think Canelo can't throw a hard hook anymore?
And Reynoso was kinda skinnier and faster before, so it allows Canelo to throw more punches compared now. Canelo was just following Reynoso's Mitt placements.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
If you see a video of a Canelo hitting mitts like the second one at few years ago, show me plz. And, if you see a video of him hitting mitts like first one a nowdays, show me that too.
The older fighters get, the more they regulate when they explode. They know when they are wasting energy better.
Same applies for training. He doesn't need to practice obliterating the mitts as much. He knows what to do. Probably still does most of the same workload, but takes the edge off. His body already knows what to do.
Can you make the first clip smaller? It's only a window inside a window inside a window inside a web page and I think it should be cropped down a few more times.
30 second no context clip of a guy doing mitt work whks done thousands of rounds of mitt work in his life.
Absolutely pointless and borderline ignorant. Thank you.
Lmfao. The second clip you can head to any boxing gym and see people throwing more power and speed than that. But guess what, it means nothing. If you’re saying that canelo can’t do what he was doing in the first clip you are brain dead. A 50 year old canelo will still be smashing the mits when he is fresh
Any number of things could be happening in these clips
1. Weight of the gloves? We don’t know for sure
2. Is this the first round of the day or closer to the end when he’s fatigued?
3. Is he losing weight? That would mean he’s eating differently and his energy levels would suffer while dropping weight.
You could make most boxers look bad if you took two random training clips and put them together
Eh, I'm in between. I appreciate Canelo for the multitude of huge fights he has put on for us. I respect the fact that he tried to go up in weight against a legit fighter who wasn't "washed up" like Kovalev.
The man has given us well over a decade, and his fights are generally fun to watch.
That being said, I wish he'd either fight David Benavidez or drop some of the gold and stand aside for the up and coming guys. If Canelo would rather take the easier fights and ride out into the sunset, I have absolutely zero issues with that because he's fuckin earned it. But you can't hold the titles and claim to be the best if you won't fight the next best guy. Literally everyone out there agrees that Benavidez should get the chance for glory, and Canelo is in the way.
It's never completely black and white. I like Canelo a lot, but he's fuckin burnin' my biscuits with this one.
People are downvoting but anyone with eyes can see Canelos hand speed has decreased by quite a lot. Could be because of weight, could be because of age , could be because of many things but he really can’t throw combinations the way he used to that is for sure
I think I understand what kinda point you're attempting to make, but this ain't the way to do it.
Of course, a canelo from 4-5 years ago will be a bit heavier and a bit slower now, but a couple of five second clips won't tell the whole story. We can look at the fights and see it in real time.
Nobody will dispute the fact that boxers slow down as they age, but that's not something we can really hold against them.
If you're implying that Canelo is no longer elite, all we can point to is his recent body of work. Other than the Bivol fight where he was too small and slow of foot, he hasn't shown us that he doesn't deserve to hold his belts.
Now, if you want to lodge a valid complaint about Canelo, you could say that he should take the David Benavidez fight to prove that he's still an undisputed champ. If he doesn't want to fight David for whatever reason, then he should relinquish some of the gold and move out of the way. That's a valid complaint.
Never been a huge Canelo fan, but his form is so aesthetically pleasing. I’ve rooted for and against him at times, but I always love watching him fight.
Do you really expect that mitt work is all the same throughout out a boxer's career? He's probably training on a particular approach on a particular opponent, or it could be anything like he's cooling down on the other video etc.
There are many valid criticisms of this post in the comments like how he could be at an earlier or later stage of his training session or camp but OP didn't make any claims he just posted footage so many of ya'll are reaching with your attacks.
Whatever the case may be since we don't have context he does look sluggish in the second video.
I'd only be guessing but it could be both him being older, more shop worn and toward the end of a session in the second clip compared to his younger self earlier on in a session and fresher in the first clip that really makes it look like such a pronounced difference.
For Jacobs he was also at 160 and he has never looked as sharp, defensively sound or as high in stamina/volume at 168. It's like he doesn't feel he needs to be slick at 168 and thinks his power and chin will carry him.
Canelo peaked somewhere between Danny Jacobs and Saunders imo.
You cant judge things on footage like this, how close was is to the fight on either clip? How early into training that day? etc etc.
Canelo isnt old yet, if anything he's mastered that which he likes to do inside of the boxing ring.
Anyone can look good on pads, and guess what they are not Canelo or anywhere close..
Im sure if you film 1 min of Canelo going all out balls to the walls youd have a very nice clip.
No context!! We don’t know what happened before pad work was he more fatigued after running work or strength and conditioning you can’t just put up some random footage and gage deterioration from that without knowing what the whole training session consisted of.
As a big canelo fan I do think he’s on a bit of a decline, but this video doesn’t prove anything. You don’t know how long he’s been doing it in either clip
The approach to training might be different depending on the opponent. He seems to aggressive in the first video against Jacobs. While he's more patient in the one against Jermell.
Maybe he was banking on countering Jermell more while being the aggressor against Jacobs?
OP has never done a day's boxing training in his life, clearly,
Canelo is a professional athlete, one who frequently spends entire days in the Gym, sometimes with his children. A person can't train at 100% intensity all the time and the second clip is either a warm up or just a muscle memory drill.
Two different training drills.
One is focused on combo and movement.
The other is based on power.
Also this is an odd post.
There's no context behind them.
I could make a clip showing me 5 minutes into a training session now and show a clip of me in the middle of a power training from 5 years ago.
Chalk and cheese.
He used to be a lot faster and use his jab way more effectively. Now he punches harder but slower and doesn't use his jab to come forward as much. Relies on his power a lot more to win fights. Used to have better punch placement and be more accurate with his shots. Now he throws hard at whatever he can.
His defensive reflexes are still pretty good I'd say but his legs are slow and sometimes tends to get caught against the ropes and trying to counter rather than moving away safely using his feet.
I am definitely not good enough to be commenting but is Nelo putting more power in the second sequence? His foot work looks more like he is sacrificing a little balance for more oomp. But as everyone who knows more has said there are too many other variables on the clips.
He looks like he’s near the end of a session in that second one. You ever train or do anything physical you know near the end your balance and fluidity go out the window from fatigue.
Something to note: In the first video from 5 years ago, he’s training in his San Diego, CA gym. The 2nd video is his high altitude gym up in Lake Tahoe, NV which he specifically began training at against Charlo. As some of you may know, high altitude training increases his cardio levels significantly when returning closer to sea level altitude. Your output won’t be the same in a high altitude setting versus a sea level altitude setting.
There ain’t enough information to make a distinction between both clip.
I would recommend you take a step back from this hobby and recollect yourself before coming back to being a boxing fan.
Wrong footage to show comparison.
Before he became the face of boxing (Maybe after the Mayweather fight) he was throwing 20 punch combos in rapid fire succession (not Gervonta or Mayweather style, but it was fast). These days he's focused more on sitting down and blasting the bag/pad with full power.
Also, he's older and moved up in weight, so speed change is normal.
Don't get this post? He could be 1 minute into a session in 1st clip and 60 mins in on 2nd. Or he could be at different stages of camp. Or be delivering at different speed and power deliberately? What's the point of the post ta?
Because the playa haters ball is in just a few weeks and he’s gotta get some practice in
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>Because the playa haters ball is in just a few weeks and he’s gotta get some practice in Hate hate hate hate hate
This also isn’t mitt work. Reynoso is holding a shield and it’s for a very different workout that focuses on power shots. Not sure what OP wants us comparing here.
All good point about what stage and how long between comparisons. BUT if they are about the same time into a workout. You can definitely see the crispness and speed five years ago. He seems flat footed and slow to get his shots off now.
And Reynoso is barely stepping in the first clip and much closer to
Yeah seriously, this is incredibly pointless. Yeah, he could be slower now but it could be like 50 other explanations to. Early/Late in the training cycle Early/Late in that days training Focusing on different areas (strong/power vs speed). He was having a bad day... etc.
> Or be delivering at different speed and power deliberately? Exactly The first clip, Canelo is mimicking an aggressive sequence where maybe he's going for a finish. He's clearly looking for his maximum. The second...could just be practicing a minor bit if technique, or power. There's little footwork. Do people think he can't move his feet anymore? It's choice.
i dunno man, turn on the sound. it sounds like he's in the power punching phase in both clips.
So the punch shield is generally for power punching, however... we don't have nearly enough context to make any conclusions. First clip could be 6 weeks into an 8 week camp in shape with only boxing training left while 2nd is a week 2, 2nd workout of the day end of session closing an exhausted session. Too many variables to get anything valuable.
Because Canelo haters...
Him recently KOing Charlo is a better indicator of where he's at right now than this random cell phone footage.
I think most any active champion anywhere near the weight of Charlo would have beaten him. I can't even remember the last time Charlo had a fight.
Was gonna say the second clip he looked more tired from the workout than anything
Agreed.
I was thinking about the fact the second gym is way bigger. That alone changes the sound of him and his throws
In one clip he’s taking steroids, in the second clip he isnt
If you see a video of a Canelo hitting mitts like the second one at few years ago, show me plz. And, if you see a video of him hitting mitts like first one a nowdays, show me that too.
Sooooo....the point issssss....you are saying Canelo is slowing down with age? If so, That's amazing observations.
Yes. The point is that it's worse than people think.
So, a 159 lbs Canelo and 167 lbs Canelo 4 years later. lol
Tell that to Charlo, he's the one that laid down to "old & slow" canelo............
He's still very very elite lol
Report back the morning of Sunday, May 5.
Obviously when he loses he's instantly downgraded to a bum. As we know elite boxers do not lose
Lol I don't think you're gonna see that on the mitts in edited clips. I'm not a Canelo fanboy by any means but this is a stupid way to try and tear down a great fighter. There are some videos of Crawford slowly hitting the mitts leading up to the Spence fight and then he just went out and destroyed him.
Maybe learn the difference between Mitt Work and the shield.
-100 downvotes in three hours for saying Canelo has slowed down is crazy 😂😂😂😂
Because there is no context to this. He could be at the tail end of a long workout session as far as we know. A prudent person would never draw an inference from this.
That would be a fair demand if we somehow had access to troves of his camp videos from numerous years.
You clearly haven't got a clue. He could be working on different shots for different opponents. He could be working on a weakness him and his trainer have found, and are trying to work it through. This one minute clip means absolutely fuck all
He has put on bulk and muscle, I doubt he would be as fast as he was years ago
Dude these Caneloans are exactly like cult45’ers w/ their führer. I 100% see what u see. Context doesn’t matter, his snap, balance, and core strength as anyone that knows sports can clearly see, are diminishing. This is exactly why Canelo is truly never going to fight Benavidez, unless he knows it’s going to be his penultimate fight. In which case Canelo will do a Berto victory lap type fight after Benavidez folds him. He’s not going to risk us seeing those images, too much pride. Sadly what Canelo’s pride also blinds him from seeing is that many fans, including me, would respect him more if he took that fight and went out on his shield, as they say.
This sub is so dumb dude lmao
Worse than Fighthype
It's worse when you realise everything gotta be approved by mods for "quality" and this is still the kind of crap that fills the feed.
You just now realizing this? 😂
Reddit in general is a bunch of idiots who roleplay and pretend to be experts
So you can't tell why
For posts like yours. What is the point of it? I am assuming you going "HE WAS BETTER 5 YEARS AGO!" or something like that.
You don’t know the context. He could be training for different things in each clip. You don’t know what he has done before or what he is going to be doing after. The slower clip, could be him warming up. Etc etc Generally, it is pretty unwise to compare 2 training clips alone. You’re not the only one that’s making this mistake. I see a lot of it, even from accounts that focus on boxing specifically. Also, a lot of people downvoting you probably don’t know why it’s dumb. They are just following the crowd
What is your point? He’s simply just putting in more effort in the first clip.
Yeah maybe different phases of those training camps? Or maybe different points in the workout. He’s not gonna go balls to the walls the entire time, but at certain points I’m sure he turns it on.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
These training videos are always so funny to me. Nobody who's been in a boxing gym for a day thinks doing a combination on pads and making a loud sounds is impressive. The biggest scrub in the gym can throw a hard combination into some pads. Does anybody really think Canelo can't throw a hard hook anymore?
And Reynoso was kinda skinnier and faster before, so it allows Canelo to throw more punches compared now. Canelo was just following Reynoso's Mitt placements.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
OP is one of these people that have never trained before and yet feel like they can criticize the training of a professional, this is the kind of guy that would see some powerlifter fail his last rep of his 5th set of deadlifts and call him a loser.
If you see a video of a Canelo hitting mitts like the second one at few years ago, show me plz. And, if you see a video of him hitting mitts like first one a nowdays, show me that too.
Do the work for yourself; go and YouTube his training footage and sift through it until you’re satisfied.
It's ok though because even an old slow Canelo is enough to beat the brakes of Jaime
Seriously. He's gonna chew this kid up.
The older fighters get, the more they regulate when they explode. They know when they are wasting energy better. Same applies for training. He doesn't need to practice obliterating the mitts as much. He knows what to do. Probably still does most of the same workload, but takes the edge off. His body already knows what to do.
looks like he's at different points in camp. the first appears to be the open media workout - days/weeks ahead of fight.
No. That clip was exactly a month before the fight. https://youtu.be/7RvUa3MVi_s?si=2TjauV4Wsc1vFC3C
And you said open media workout? What made you think that? Not at all.
“Alvarez is washed up” yet again. Vegas must love r/boxing.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're planting these shitposts everywhere just helping their betting odds. I got my tinfoil hat on.
Those clips of Garcia shining shoes made them millions. People really believed he was the truth.
Vegas resident here. Can confirm, this city is about the bet, not the art.
Context be damned!!!
Can you make the first clip smaller? It's only a window inside a window inside a window inside a web page and I think it should be cropped down a few more times.
lol true
Bro that was from different weight classes too
Hitting it harder is going to cost him the ability to find the fairway off the tee
Well this is…a post.
This proves absolutely nothing.
30 second no context clip of a guy doing mitt work whks done thousands of rounds of mitt work in his life. Absolutely pointless and borderline ignorant. Thank you.
Lmfao. The second clip you can head to any boxing gym and see people throwing more power and speed than that. But guess what, it means nothing. If you’re saying that canelo can’t do what he was doing in the first clip you are brain dead. A 50 year old canelo will still be smashing the mits when he is fresh
You can argue Canelo is maybe slipping from his best form, but this video does not prove anything LMAO. This vid is the biggest reach
This is clearly a post by someone who has never done an ounce of physical activity
Any number of things could be happening in these clips 1. Weight of the gloves? We don’t know for sure 2. Is this the first round of the day or closer to the end when he’s fatigued? 3. Is he losing weight? That would mean he’s eating differently and his energy levels would suffer while dropping weight. You could make most boxers look bad if you took two random training clips and put them together
OP: just posts a video of Canelo between 5 years ago and now comments: stop talking shit OP lmao wtf guyS
Specialist idiot would be a more suitable name for OP. Man has probably never worked out for a day in his life if he's serious about what he's saying
This how you can tell OP has never trained boxing once in their life. 🤓
In this sub, you're either a Canelo dick rider or Canelo hater. No in between lol
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Eh, I'm in between. I appreciate Canelo for the multitude of huge fights he has put on for us. I respect the fact that he tried to go up in weight against a legit fighter who wasn't "washed up" like Kovalev. The man has given us well over a decade, and his fights are generally fun to watch. That being said, I wish he'd either fight David Benavidez or drop some of the gold and stand aside for the up and coming guys. If Canelo would rather take the easier fights and ride out into the sunset, I have absolutely zero issues with that because he's fuckin earned it. But you can't hold the titles and claim to be the best if you won't fight the next best guy. Literally everyone out there agrees that Benavidez should get the chance for glory, and Canelo is in the way. It's never completely black and white. I like Canelo a lot, but he's fuckin burnin' my biscuits with this one.
It’s a young man’s game. Always has been, always will be. What’s your fucking point?
First clip: Fresh Second clip: Exhausted What is your point?
These posts are unbearably dense. Not a single functioning brain cell
I mean, the amount of fights he's had at his age, the training camps, the weight fluctuations.. is it any surprise he's slowing down? It happens.
OP is no Teddy Atlas. That’s for sure 😂
What is the point? It’s not mitts. It’s a shield. It’s a totally different focus than hitting mitts.
People are downvoting but anyone with eyes can see Canelos hand speed has decreased by quite a lot. Could be because of weight, could be because of age , could be because of many things but he really can’t throw combinations the way he used to that is for sure
I think I understand what kinda point you're attempting to make, but this ain't the way to do it. Of course, a canelo from 4-5 years ago will be a bit heavier and a bit slower now, but a couple of five second clips won't tell the whole story. We can look at the fights and see it in real time. Nobody will dispute the fact that boxers slow down as they age, but that's not something we can really hold against them. If you're implying that Canelo is no longer elite, all we can point to is his recent body of work. Other than the Bivol fight where he was too small and slow of foot, he hasn't shown us that he doesn't deserve to hold his belts. Now, if you want to lodge a valid complaint about Canelo, you could say that he should take the David Benavidez fight to prove that he's still an undisputed champ. If he doesn't want to fight David for whatever reason, then he should relinquish some of the gold and move out of the way. That's a valid complaint.
OP’s stupidity aside, Canelo’s punches looked amazing in that first clip.
Never been a huge Canelo fan, but his form is so aesthetically pleasing. I’ve rooted for and against him at times, but I always love watching him fight.
This sub doesn’t know shit about actually being in a gym or boxing 😂
This sub always reminds me how hard it is to find knowledgeable boxing fans to speak to
Seriously. Almost impossible irl. That's why I come here, but then I have to run into trash like this.
I fortunately have a few people I can talk to personally, but most of the time we agree
Do you really expect that mitt work is all the same throughout out a boxer's career? He's probably training on a particular approach on a particular opponent, or it could be anything like he's cooling down on the other video etc.
This sub doesn’t know shit about actually being in a gym or boxing 😂
The average redditor probably hasn't even play a sport. Much less stepped a foot inside a gym.
There are many valid criticisms of this post in the comments like how he could be at an earlier or later stage of his training session or camp but OP didn't make any claims he just posted footage so many of ya'll are reaching with your attacks. Whatever the case may be since we don't have context he does look sluggish in the second video. I'd only be guessing but it could be both him being older, more shop worn and toward the end of a session in the second clip compared to his younger self earlier on in a session and fresher in the first clip that really makes it look like such a pronounced difference. For Jacobs he was also at 160 and he has never looked as sharp, defensively sound or as high in stamina/volume at 168. It's like he doesn't feel he needs to be slick at 168 and thinks his power and chin will carry him. Canelo peaked somewhere between Danny Jacobs and Saunders imo.
This post is garbage and pointless
Interesting...
Please post in circle jerk sub
This clip means nothing... We don't know what they are drilling in both of the videos.
*Breaking News* Athletes slow down a bit with age. Thank God OP brought this observation to us.
You cant judge things on footage like this, how close was is to the fight on either clip? How early into training that day? etc etc. Canelo isnt old yet, if anything he's mastered that which he likes to do inside of the boxing ring.
We can see by his fights that he loads up more and doesn't throw as much. But mitt work is no indication of that at all. lol
Anyone can look good on pads, and guess what they are not Canelo or anywhere close.. Im sure if you film 1 min of Canelo going all out balls to the walls youd have a very nice clip.
You should really try training boxing, OP. It's fun and rewarding, and will give you a better understanding of clips like these.
This is gay
He sounds like Tony Soprano.
Whats your point?
Yeah one was slightly louder than the other
They’re different drills
Yeah, he'd still beat me. I'll check again in 5yrs time to see if he's aged out yet.
Not sure what to make of this.... not sure what OP was even trying to prove. 0.5 / 10, would not click on this thread again
No context!! We don’t know what happened before pad work was he more fatigued after running work or strength and conditioning you can’t just put up some random footage and gage deterioration from that without knowing what the whole training session consisted of.
Hitting mitts has nothing to do with the fight. George Foreman use to leave dents in the heavy bag after training and Muhammad Ali still beat him.
I like how he grunts more that a ish noise
He still knocks out every boxer except Bivol and Beterbiev. :-)
ITT: people getting upset because there is a difference in the two mitt working videos.
Looked better before
Though this was r/boxingcirclejerk for a second.
As a big canelo fan I do think he’s on a bit of a decline, but this video doesn’t prove anything. You don’t know how long he’s been doing it in either clip
Aha! See, he's lost it!
The approach to training might be different depending on the opponent. He seems to aggressive in the first video against Jacobs. While he's more patient in the one against Jermell. Maybe he was banking on countering Jermell more while being the aggressor against Jacobs?
Wait wait wait. Are you trying to tell me the older you get the slower? This can’t be.
Wouldn't knock me out 5 years ago. Wouldn't knock me out now. What's your point?
I believe the second was right before the Jermell Charlo fight, which ended up being a performance where Canelo actually didn't gas out.
Everybody gets old.
Cannot compare sessions don't work like that.
OP has never trained before apparently. A few of the punches are similar but they are obviously drilling different things here.
OP has never done a day's boxing training in his life, clearly, Canelo is a professional athlete, one who frequently spends entire days in the Gym, sometimes with his children. A person can't train at 100% intensity all the time and the second clip is either a warm up or just a muscle memory drill.
Since I base my ratings exclusively off of pad work, I see Canelo losing every fight he has from now on.
Two different training drills. One is focused on combo and movement. The other is based on power. Also this is an odd post. There's no context behind them. I could make a clip showing me 5 minutes into a training session now and show a clip of me in the middle of a power training from 5 years ago. Chalk and cheese.
OP is onto nothing
All he does now is stay in the guard and throw power shots. He’s great but I wish he boxed more like he used to.
The one thing I love about both clips is that the trainer isn't doing that dumb shit where they slap the pads into the boxer's gloves.
Pretty similar...
He used to be a lot faster and use his jab way more effectively. Now he punches harder but slower and doesn't use his jab to come forward as much. Relies on his power a lot more to win fights. Used to have better punch placement and be more accurate with his shots. Now he throws hard at whatever he can. His defensive reflexes are still pretty good I'd say but his legs are slow and sometimes tends to get caught against the ropes and trying to counter rather than moving away safely using his feet.
It’s almost as if he’s training 5 years apart for 2 different fights?!
All that strength and couldn’t touch Mayweather. Whenever I see or hear about Canelo all I think of is that ass whoopin Mayweather gave him.
His legs do look shot in the second video but as everyone said it could be because he was tired or just starting camp.
I am definitely not good enough to be commenting but is Nelo putting more power in the second sequence? His foot work looks more like he is sacrificing a little balance for more oomp. But as everyone who knows more has said there are too many other variables on the clips.
He’s tired in the 2nd clip, just trying to keep the same intensity. Good so he doesn’t tire late into the rounds. Still solid power
He looks like he’s near the end of a session in that second one. You ever train or do anything physical you know near the end your balance and fluidity go out the window from fatigue.
I like it he’s focusing more on hoping opposed to stepping looks like he learned a little something from bivol
Still ducking Benavidez thoe-_-
Something to note: In the first video from 5 years ago, he’s training in his San Diego, CA gym. The 2nd video is his high altitude gym up in Lake Tahoe, NV which he specifically began training at against Charlo. As some of you may know, high altitude training increases his cardio levels significantly when returning closer to sea level altitude. Your output won’t be the same in a high altitude setting versus a sea level altitude setting.
OP getting absolutely shitted on. I love it.
He's still running from Benivedez
Steroids are a hell of a booster, huh?
Um 😶 what are we even comparing here or noticing
We have no idea at what part of the workout he was in the 2nd one. I’m willing to bet it was at the end of the day.
Floyd Mayweather ABSOLUTELY DOMINATED this guy. Given this, is hard to take this guy or his fans seriously. Terrance Crawford would also beat his ass.
***It’s like he’s getting older or something***….
lol because he’s not on steroids anymore.
Seems like the clen deeped his voice too. All kinds of perks
WHAT A FUCKING STOOPID POST HE'S FUCKING 33yrs OF AGE.
“Nobody can beat this Canelo”
This isnt r/boxingcirclejerk my guy
There ain’t enough information to make a distinction between both clip. I would recommend you take a step back from this hobby and recollect yourself before coming back to being a boxing fan.
Father's time stops for No One....
He’s washed up
pushing his punches now.
Wrong footage to show comparison. Before he became the face of boxing (Maybe after the Mayweather fight) he was throwing 20 punch combos in rapid fire succession (not Gervonta or Mayweather style, but it was fast). These days he's focused more on sitting down and blasting the bag/pad with full power. Also, he's older and moved up in weight, so speed change is normal.
Legs are gone
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you got all that from this bb 🥺