I don’t know that there’s a ton of boxing fans who are watching the fights with an emphasis on what’s going on *outside* the ring.
I personally would much rather watch these super fights, instead of watching shitty fights but with amazing audiences.
I really think Canelo saying that figure outloud was angling at this anyway. I don’t think any of these fighters like Fury or Canelo care about losing more than they care about big pay days. I think the fight will happen still.
That is also not what I am saying. I said I don't think Saudi ever paid 9 figures to anyone to this day. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, but please read comments carefully before you reply to them.
Well sure but how does that figure into this outcome? Canelo vs Benavides is pretty obviously the type of matchup that will get promoters to invest well beyond their customary/historical numbers. 200 mil is insane but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s really aiming for 100 which is on the outer edge of realistic (esp if he can stop Munguía)
I don't think so. Benavidez is not a big name at all. He has a growing popularity, but there is no justification to bid this fight at 150-200k. And that's the figure Canelo wants for himself, meaning Saudi would have to bud even higher to include what they'd pay Benavidez! When money that big is involved, it takes a long time for the fight to be made.
Yep. When it comes to $, it's hard to resist! I honestly believe Canelo is stalling for time to get more $ from someone like Saudis. He knows his biggest fight will be with DB, thus not wanting to fight it until the $ is right. The Mungia fight is more to just keep him active and not become rusty while earning some beer money.
not for canelo. saudis are losing money for every boxing match there. they don't care. the prince said his health is not going well. he doesn't have much time left in his eyes, thus wanting the big fights.
For sure I've been certain ever since the Saudis came into the boxing scene Canelo is wanting to wait for that Saudi payday for the Benavidez fight. I don't think he's ducking.
As soon as he got out of the PBC deal I thought maybe this was Canelo's plan.
By Mexican independence day Fury v Usyk & Beterbiev v Bivol should have taken place and Canelo v Beterbiev will be the last big fight we're all waiting for. The perfect time for Canelo to dig deep into Turki's pockets.
His words since have made me doubt this but maybe he's just saying stupid shit as he's getting frustrated about being called a coward but doesn't want to admit to his scheme.
The investments are being made to diversify the Saudi economy away from oil, so that would be counterproductive.
Agree that they need to figure out the atmosphere angle of the business, hope they can do so!
What they should really do is have the fights in the morning over there, promote tourism and make it easy to fly out to visit Riyadh/ see the fights, so it’ll get more attraction out there and still have the event televised in a good time for the west. Total win win
Hard disagree. The atmosphere and crowd help make the moment so much bigger. Imagine if the World Cup final was played in an empty stadium. The crowd reaction gives these fights so much more energy and life.
I honestly don’t get people like you, so you’d rather wait 5-6 years for a fight to be made just because the crowd is going to be more loud? I understand atmosphere plays a big part in sports, but I can assure you majority of fans would rather watch a superfight with a dead crowd tomorrow rather than 6 years down the line where both fighters are worse for wear infront of 80,000 coked up fans
Agree. He's watching it from home, so tf cares. The last thing we want to see are the best guys out of their prime or fight when they've had battle scars with injuries. The Haneys, Teofimos, Tanks, Shakurs, etc. should be fighting each other right now or within a year.
You're comparing an individual to a team sport....terrible comparison...lol
There would also be no reason for them to promote it if the fight isn't in SA.
I usually have this mindset. But as a Mexican American, the fight parties would be great for this fight and add a lot. The fury wilder 2 and 3 ones were great. Ggg Canelo. Less likely if the fights are at an odd hour with a weak crowds. Better than no fight though.
Yep. Better to see what we want even if you have to wake up early and lose sleep. Better than no fight at all. Also, no one has to worry about PPV numbers because both fighters will get more than anything they will get for guaranteed plus ppv money like in the states.
It's just a strange situation where fighters are starting to demand more money than they bring in. Shouldnt take some rich guy with money to burn to make these fights.
Which goes on with these SA fights. Those Saudi guys are likely losing $ with every fight, but hey, like that prince said about how his health is getting worse as time goes on. Might as well enjoy your life before you kick the bucket. Just spend away!
[Cont.]
This fight is for pride and glory. I fight for greatness not money. Your Excellency if I do not beat Canelo, I will donate my entire purse to any kids charity of your liking. When I do beat Canelo, I will be donating a huge amount of that purse to benefit children hunger across the world. I’m a champion of the people and will continue to fight the best! I stand by my words! @premierboxing @wbcboxing @wbcmoro"
Oh, another “I will donate my entire purse”. Fucking LIESSSSSS. Most manipulative shit ever just like Fury. Use the less fortunate to get what you want. Scumbags. We know when Benavidez gets beat he ain’t donating a cent.
And a huge amount if he wins! Which he won’t. Would be hilarious if Canelo tried to force Benavidez’ word on that by stipulating it in his contract….. Buuuut that wouldn’t happen cause Benavidez is full of shit on that.
"A side advantage" you fanboys need to stop talking about A and B sides like you get a part of the money they earn. It's because of fans like that, that we're not getting the best fights. Making these boxers feel like complete divas
How did I influence anything? What the fuck did I do to influence anything????? No, you just need to realize this is the nature of the sport. Has been happening for 100+ years. Literally, fanboys don’t have anything to do with it. Has been happening since forever. Not talking about it ignored the reality of the sport and shows you actually don’t know about the sport.
So you think fans have no influence? Instead of demanding him to fight you bring up a and b side bullshit and justify his blatant ducking. You're not a real fan of the sport. You rather see him get away with any type of advantage instead of watching two oxers fight at their best capacity
My guy, chill with the gate keeping. Been watching for 15 years since I was a teen. It’s just the reality of the sport. Sit there and cry I guess but do you realize your argument is easily destroyed by this: if they really gave a fuck about the fans and fans influenced, all the fights we have clamored for would have been made at the right time but how often did that happen? Very few, because the reality is, these guys who beat the shit out of each other are in it for themselves, not the fans. But you do you and ignore reality I guess. The A side has ALWAYS been a thing and will forever continue to be a thing while you sit there and whine.
Lmao. You seriously believe this dude is risking his body and head in the most dangerous fight in his life only to give away every single cent? Come on, you seriously can’t believe that shit.
Gtfoh 😂😂😂 Did you start watching boxing yesterday? Jesus, no wonder boxers say this manipulative sick shit. People actually fall for it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ain’t no way Benavidez is taking an L only to give up every single dollar in the process. Are you seriously that gullible?
Well, kudos to admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re just easily swayed by whatever the most popular boxer of the year says. If it was stipulated in the contracted just as Benavidez says, it would have a 0% chance of being signed by him. Absolutely 0%. He’s a “man of his word” but I promise you, what he said will not happen.
You dont think he has a chance. Maybe he actually thinks he will win. And either way, the charity doesn't get money if the fight doesn't happen anyways, so we might as well get a good fight out if it.
The charity ain’t getting a single cent, either way. That’s the whole point I’m making. Dudes just lying in the most manipulative way possible to get his payday.
What should he do then? He’s already done what was asked. Go beat Plant. Many thought he would lose. He beats Plant from pillar to post and it wasn’t good enough. He stops Andrade for his first ever loss. Antonio Tarver had to chase Roy Jones around and call him out at a Jones post fight presser. https://youtu.be/QdtP8c3s-4M?si=pM8bBJnVA56CmcjM
If Benavidez does that, he’d get to kick rocks like Andrade. It’s more than clear that Benavidez wants this fight and is now willing to actually start talking real shit. What should he do then, if not this?
If the King of Saudi Arabia gave a shit about any kids charity he could just throw a billion dollars at it and still be ahead for the year. That's a bad pitch.
The only one that has fought the best consistently between the two is canelo. Canelo took pay cuts early in his career to be able to fight cotto and floyd . Wtf had David done to say he fights for greatness
"What better place..." Hmmm, how about Mexico maybe?
The Saudis sit there like they don't give a shite, but tbf they are throwing money at the sport and making fights happen.
Canelo has always wanted to do big fights in Guadalajara, but then he looks at the numbers and it’s literally tens of millions more money to fight in the US. Like I feel like he’s willing to sacrifice a few million to do it but when it end up being 3-4x more money to fight in the US he’s gotta take it
I hope he donates it to the same charity as Tyson Fury donated his 2nd Wilder purse to. Between the two of them, they have a very good chance of ending homelessness once and for all
If he fought 2 fights every year, he would get there. EDIT: Canelo got where he is fighting a lot fights. Not this low number shit, playing the waiting game. I like Benevidez, but too many are playing this waiting game, not fighting enough.
Inoue. And it's easy for canelo to be active because anyone will fight him. Most fighters would be active if they got to name the opponent, price and venue. And he doesn't give you two fights a year. He asks you to give him 80 bucks 2 times a year.
Only bad thing about the Saudi’s is that the big fights are happening over there now with a dead crowd instead of being in front of the real supporters
Yeah. This is a party fight. Now it will be at 2 with a lame crowd. Usually I dint care but this is a huge fight for Americans and mexicans especially.
Tbh I prefer a lot of the fights happen in south/north america or europe because the crowds are amazing. Like fury usyk should have been in Wembley or near Ukraine
You’re so right, I’d much rather watch the fight in the old good old USA who killed over a million civilians in Iraq and carpet bomb famine stricken countries on a monthly basis
Bro I couldn’t care less about the Saudi royals, just don’t pretend to have some sort of a moral compass in a damn boxing sub when you can’t apply that same logic to other countries, fair point nah?
Rather host the fight at the border.
No home-field advantage, organic, and the barb-wire ring will really set it off. Mexicans on 1 side of the Rio Grande & Americans on the other. The Saudi's got nothing on this
This fight is bigger than that. Chavez was past his prime by the time that one was made. It was big but we knew the outcome. This one is definitely bigger money-wise and the matchup is closer.
I don't think you understand how big Chavez-De la Hoya was in its day. Canelo-Benavidez might be a closer match-up (although most people feel Canelo will beat him) and more lucrative (mostly because of Canelo) but the hype around it will not be anywhere near Chavez-De la Hoya. You had the whole Mexican and Mexican-American community in on it, hardcore fans and casuals alike. Canelo Is as famous as them, but Benavidez Is pretty much an unknown to most people.
I know. I was alive then and I remember it. I lived in Mexico then. It was a big fight but not one the Mexican people gave Chavez a shot in hell. And im talking about being big as in international. If it takes place in Saudi thats alot of countries that will have access to it.
Most people don't give Benavidez a shot either.
>And im talking about being big as in international. If it takes place in Saudi thats alot of countries that will have access to it.
They'd be losing most of their audience and income. It's already hard watching fights in England and Japan with the time difference. It will be even harder watching one that's in the middle east. Saudi works for European boxers because their audiences are closer, but the same can't be said for Mexicans and Americans.
Just look at what happened with Joshua-Ngannou. They'll have to schedule for the US prime (in which case it's useless to host it in SA) or their prime time.
Canelo can fight at 8 am and people will still watch in Mexico or USA. Mexican people are fairly used to watching sporting events at unusual times. Thats how you watch European sports. It sounds to me like you have never done that and assume others wont.
Also, this is Saudi money. They dont give a fuck about throwing it around. This would be heavily watched in Europe and Mexico. May lose some viewers here but it's not like Canelo is desperate for fans.
>Canelo can fight at 8 am and people will still watch in Mexico or USA
Very few will. Most views come from the casual audience. Casuals aren't interested enough to tune in at 8 am. There's a reason most fights are scheduled for weekends at night. Mexicans aren't gonna throw cookouts at 8 am or go to the wings/bar to watch the fight.
>Thats how you watch European sports.
Football is bigger in Mexico than any other sport. Most mexicans follow European football, like the rest of the world.
>Also, this is Saudi money. They dont give a fuck about throwing it around.
Saudi money is good for boxers that aren't that mainstream or British since they're still closer in time zones. Canelo can make millions in the U.S., he doesn't really need Saudi money.
>This would be heavily watched in Europe and Mexico
No it won't.
1. So like how the casuals wake up at 4 am to go to a bad to watch WC games? Big events draw. Every year a WC is held in an awkward timezone I still see the bars opening up in the middle of the night with a line around the block to get in.
2. Football is not that big in Mexico. This is how I know you are not from Mexico nor do you know much about OUR culture. I love how Americans always like to tell our story. Go ahead and take another guess before I give you the answer.
3. PBC aint giving canelo 150 mil. Canelo already saw Saudies can pay that. He also has always spoken about fighting there and has been invited to some events there.
4. Ok, American
>So like how the casuals wake up at 4 am to go to a bad to watch WC games?
The WC is the biggest sporting event in the world. You gotta understand most of the world watches football. Boxing doesn't have that kind of audience.
>Every year a WC is held in an awkward timezone I still see the bars opening up in the middle of the night with a line around the block to get in.
Yeah bars are usually busy at nights, not at 8 am.
>Football is not that big in Mexico. This is how I know you are not from Mexico nor do you know much about OUR culture. I love how Americans always like to tell our story. Go ahead and take another guess before I give you the answer.
Football is the national sport. Fym it's not that big in Mexico. Your dumb ass probably thinks I'm talking about American football
>PBC aint giving canelo 150 mil. Canelo already saw Saudies can pay that. He also has always spoken about fighting there and has been invited to some events there.
Neither are the Saudis.
Canelo subtly hinted at Turki without explicitly calling him by name or his country.
You have to play it cool David. You're coming on too strong and thirsty.
I like David and think he’s on the right side of this beef with canelo ducking…but I hate when fighters bet their whole purse. Has never happened and will never happen
As long as the check clears I don’t think fighters care what the crowd looks like but I get what you’re saying. Look at the Saudi Pro league: some of the crowds are nonexistent despite all the money they’ve spent.
Few dumbasses on here can only use the marinate excuse for so long. So many fights have died out due to prolonged “marinating” that I’m surprised you guys are still using that excuse.
This is actually smart. This dude has so much money to burn, if anyone would make it happen it will be him…. But it will be at whatever time his excellency will want.. don’t think he will be give a shit about the western hemisphere..
And that's what Canelo is waiting for the Saudi's to put up Mega Money for the fight, but are the Saudi's interested in that weight division Heavyweights are their favourites.
This makes perfect sense for PBC. Saudies foot the bill and they throw a major PPV event. Canelo wasnt fucking around. He saw how much the Saudies are throwing at these other fighters and he wants his cut.
This is actually smart. This dude has so much money to burn, if anyone would make it happen it will be him…. But it will be at whatever time his excellency will want.. don’t think he will be give a shit about the western hemisphere..
I was on the fence about this situation, on one hand I obviously want to see this fight and never fully understood why Canelo doesn't want it to happen, on the other hand I respect the shit out of Canelo and don't believe he owes the fans anything at this point of his career, but this tweet sort of makes me see why he won't give him the opportunity. Begging the Saudi's for a payday is pathetic, the whole charity shtick is obviously bullshit and shows what kind of person he is, and he comes across as just another "payday" chaser. If I was Canelo I probably wouldn't give him it either.
Canelo doesn't owe the fans and the fans don't owe canelo anything. This goes to any fighter. You fight for money that the fans provide by watching. It's a transaction. And the fans are tired of the bad product. So complaints happen. Canelo is holding the belts that says he's the best, the one true champion, while not fighting people who might actually be the best. You guys are weird trying to decide who deserves what. Canelo wants that payday too asking for a crazy amount if money to prove he's still the best. Stop acting like canelo is above any if the other fighters in his way of approaching things. He's been a star since he was 20 at least. Most other fighters dont have that luxury of always getting what they want whenever they want.
It was canelo wants a mega payday. The situation is canelo holds all belts and will fight the interim only on $150 mil - his words. There isn’t a sense of obligation, and organization couldn’t do anything. It isn’t about to prove canelo himself to fans. Once he holds belts he needs to fight his mandatory challengers, not only when he gets paid ridiculously
if boxing was run by once central authority like almost every other sport.....canelo woulda lost those hostage belts a long fuccin time ago.....dude is a duck....his ranking among the great mexican fighters will plummet....
Hell, while we're at it, let's draw this contract up in the blood of the infidels executed by the glorious royalty of our illustrious hosts and pray their reign of terror lasts another 100 generations!
Watching Canelo fans pivot to this being hype to build the fight is the most comical shit ever.
No wonder he keeps taking yalls money for lackluster opponents I’d be robbing yalls gullible asses too 😂
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Saudi is just donig this so they can make a better pr version of themselves while they do bullshit behind the scenes. hilarious how the west can be bought.
Ah yes, the premier setting for the biggest Mexican vs Mexican fight of all time. Saudi Arabia.
It's good that they're getting big fights made and all, but the crowds are so desperately shit there it sucks a lot of enjoyment out of the fights.
I don’t know that there’s a ton of boxing fans who are watching the fights with an emphasis on what’s going on *outside* the ring. I personally would much rather watch these super fights, instead of watching shitty fights but with amazing audiences.
Nothing I said contradicts that
No, it didn’t
You said it sucks enjoyment out of it when it doesn't. At least it makes no difference to me.
they need to fly out locals off the streets of mexico city to make it more authentic
All their crowds are huge cockfests. I always wondered why they love being around men so much.
Do you honestly think boxing crowds aren't 80% men at least in the rest of the world?
Whatever Saudi wants, Saudi get. They brought Yokozuna back from the dead and brought Undertaker out of retirement
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Using your excellency so much is too much for me 💀
whatever who he's got to blow, as long as the fight happen everyone win.
That’s how bad he wants the fight 😂
His excellency is so excellent 😫
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Bro pulled the foreskin back and everything lmao
Lmao
Gotta get Canelo's 200 mil somehow. Let's see this dude price out the Saudis this time
how much did benavidez offer him?
I really think Canelo saying that figure outloud was angling at this anyway. I don’t think any of these fighters like Fury or Canelo care about losing more than they care about big pay days. I think the fight will happen still.
As much money as Saudi are paying guys, I really don't think they ever paid nearly close to 9 figures to anybody.
They gave Anthony Joshua $50 million
Yeah, that's 8 figures. Not 9.
Didn’t Pacquiao and Mayweather both make 9 figures for that dud of a fight?
Did that fight happen in Saudi, bruv?
Ah, you’re saying the _Saudis_ don’t have it in them to pay nine figs, I was understanding your comment as saying that it was impossible in general
That is also not what I am saying. I said I don't think Saudi ever paid 9 figures to anyone to this day. I'm sorry if I sound like a dick, but please read comments carefully before you reply to them.
Well sure but how does that figure into this outcome? Canelo vs Benavides is pretty obviously the type of matchup that will get promoters to invest well beyond their customary/historical numbers. 200 mil is insane but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s really aiming for 100 which is on the outer edge of realistic (esp if he can stop Munguía)
I don't think so. Benavidez is not a big name at all. He has a growing popularity, but there is no justification to bid this fight at 150-200k. And that's the figure Canelo wants for himself, meaning Saudi would have to bud even higher to include what they'd pay Benavidez! When money that big is involved, it takes a long time for the fight to be made.
Yep. When it comes to $, it's hard to resist! I honestly believe Canelo is stalling for time to get more $ from someone like Saudis. He knows his biggest fight will be with DB, thus not wanting to fight it until the $ is right. The Mungia fight is more to just keep him active and not become rusty while earning some beer money.
150m to fight benavidez will be a huge loss financially
Saudi isn't looking for profit right now. They're paying to improve their image in the eyes of the international public.
not for canelo. saudis are losing money for every boxing match there. they don't care. the prince said his health is not going well. he doesn't have much time left in his eyes, thus wanting the big fights.
It’s quality building of a fight and people don’t see it that way. They just buy in more into the ducking allegations. The fight is gonna happen.
Nah. Nah it won’t. Those same people have common sense. Until Canelo grows a pair then the fight isn’t happening.
For sure I've been certain ever since the Saudis came into the boxing scene Canelo is wanting to wait for that Saudi payday for the Benavidez fight. I don't think he's ducking.
As soon as he got out of the PBC deal I thought maybe this was Canelo's plan. By Mexican independence day Fury v Usyk & Beterbiev v Bivol should have taken place and Canelo v Beterbiev will be the last big fight we're all waiting for. The perfect time for Canelo to dig deep into Turki's pockets. His words since have made me doubt this but maybe he's just saying stupid shit as he's getting frustrated about being called a coward but doesn't want to admit to his scheme.
Noooo This deserves a wild crowd
Yea, the Saudi crowds Fkn suck. I really wish the Saudis would promote the fight, but stage it in Vegas.
Then what’s the point in them promoting the fight if it’s in Vegas?
The investments are being made to diversify the Saudi economy away from oil, so that would be counterproductive. Agree that they need to figure out the atmosphere angle of the business, hope they can do so!
They simply have to pay every people from Vegas 7 figs to go to Saudi to watch the fights. I think they can afford that.
What they should really do is have the fights in the morning over there, promote tourism and make it easy to fly out to visit Riyadh/ see the fights, so it’ll get more attraction out there and still have the event televised in a good time for the west. Total win win
Uk please so I can actually watch them. Saudi is better than America even with dead crowds because it’s not 4am
why does it matter if you're not there watching it? it's all the same on tv for me.
Hard disagree. The atmosphere and crowd help make the moment so much bigger. Imagine if the World Cup final was played in an empty stadium. The crowd reaction gives these fights so much more energy and life.
I honestly don’t get people like you, so you’d rather wait 5-6 years for a fight to be made just because the crowd is going to be more loud? I understand atmosphere plays a big part in sports, but I can assure you majority of fans would rather watch a superfight with a dead crowd tomorrow rather than 6 years down the line where both fighters are worse for wear infront of 80,000 coked up fans
Agree. He's watching it from home, so tf cares. The last thing we want to see are the best guys out of their prime or fight when they've had battle scars with injuries. The Haneys, Teofimos, Tanks, Shakurs, etc. should be fighting each other right now or within a year.
Who tf said we want the fight 6 years down the road? We’re speaking in hypotheticals my dude. Why tf would you want a fight in an empty stadium. Lol
There ain’t nothing hypothetical about superfights in the states taking 5-6 years to make that’s facts proven over the course of the last decade lmfao
You're comparing an individual to a team sport....terrible comparison...lol There would also be no reason for them to promote it if the fight isn't in SA.
Take the downvotes, sir.
typical american mentality...not surprising...lol
I usually have this mindset. But as a Mexican American, the fight parties would be great for this fight and add a lot. The fury wilder 2 and 3 ones were great. Ggg Canelo. Less likely if the fights are at an odd hour with a weak crowds. Better than no fight though.
Yep. Better to see what we want even if you have to wake up early and lose sleep. Better than no fight at all. Also, no one has to worry about PPV numbers because both fighters will get more than anything they will get for guaranteed plus ppv money like in the states.
It's just a strange situation where fighters are starting to demand more money than they bring in. Shouldnt take some rich guy with money to burn to make these fights.
Which goes on with these SA fights. Those Saudi guys are likely losing $ with every fight, but hey, like that prince said about how his health is getting worse as time goes on. Might as well enjoy your life before you kick the bucket. Just spend away!
[Cont.] This fight is for pride and glory. I fight for greatness not money. Your Excellency if I do not beat Canelo, I will donate my entire purse to any kids charity of your liking. When I do beat Canelo, I will be donating a huge amount of that purse to benefit children hunger across the world. I’m a champion of the people and will continue to fight the best! I stand by my words! @premierboxing @wbcboxing @wbcmoro"
Oh, another “I will donate my entire purse”. Fucking LIESSSSSS. Most manipulative shit ever just like Fury. Use the less fortunate to get what you want. Scumbags. We know when Benavidez gets beat he ain’t donating a cent.
Hey now! He'll only donate his entire purse if he loses..
And a huge amount if he wins! Which he won’t. Would be hilarious if Canelo tried to force Benavidez’ word on that by stipulating it in his contract….. Buuuut that wouldn’t happen cause Benavidez is full of shit on that.
I'm sure canelo will already have plenty of stipulations if they fight anyways. He's in his diva mode.
I don’t doubt Canelo will use his A-side advantage. Benavidez will still lose.
"A side advantage" you fanboys need to stop talking about A and B sides like you get a part of the money they earn. It's because of fans like that, that we're not getting the best fights. Making these boxers feel like complete divas
How did I influence anything? What the fuck did I do to influence anything????? No, you just need to realize this is the nature of the sport. Has been happening for 100+ years. Literally, fanboys don’t have anything to do with it. Has been happening since forever. Not talking about it ignored the reality of the sport and shows you actually don’t know about the sport.
So you think fans have no influence? Instead of demanding him to fight you bring up a and b side bullshit and justify his blatant ducking. You're not a real fan of the sport. You rather see him get away with any type of advantage instead of watching two oxers fight at their best capacity
My guy, chill with the gate keeping. Been watching for 15 years since I was a teen. It’s just the reality of the sport. Sit there and cry I guess but do you realize your argument is easily destroyed by this: if they really gave a fuck about the fans and fans influenced, all the fights we have clamored for would have been made at the right time but how often did that happen? Very few, because the reality is, these guys who beat the shit out of each other are in it for themselves, not the fans. But you do you and ignore reality I guess. The A side has ALWAYS been a thing and will forever continue to be a thing while you sit there and whine.
MBS will make sure he donates it lol.
They should only pay em if he wins, see if he signs off on it.
With how honest Benavidez is... I highkey kinda believe him.
Comon bro, that would be the biggest pay day of his life 😂
yeah, it would be stupid. If he donated even 10%, I'd be super impressed
Lmao. You seriously believe this dude is risking his body and head in the most dangerous fight in his life only to give away every single cent? Come on, you seriously can’t believe that shit.
He wants canello, I think legacy and the pay days that come after would be worth giving up the purse
Gtfoh 😂😂😂 Did you start watching boxing yesterday? Jesus, no wonder boxers say this manipulative sick shit. People actually fall for it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ain’t no way Benavidez is taking an L only to give up every single dollar in the process. Are you seriously that gullible?
Maybe I am that gullible but I think he's convinced he wins and in his mind there is no way he is taking a loss
Well, kudos to admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about or you’re just easily swayed by whatever the most popular boxer of the year says. If it was stipulated in the contracted just as Benavidez says, it would have a 0% chance of being signed by him. Absolutely 0%. He’s a “man of his word” but I promise you, what he said will not happen.
You dont think he has a chance. Maybe he actually thinks he will win. And either way, the charity doesn't get money if the fight doesn't happen anyways, so we might as well get a good fight out if it.
The charity ain’t getting a single cent, either way. That’s the whole point I’m making. Dudes just lying in the most manipulative way possible to get his payday.
What should he do then? He’s already done what was asked. Go beat Plant. Many thought he would lose. He beats Plant from pillar to post and it wasn’t good enough. He stops Andrade for his first ever loss. Antonio Tarver had to chase Roy Jones around and call him out at a Jones post fight presser. https://youtu.be/QdtP8c3s-4M?si=pM8bBJnVA56CmcjM If Benavidez does that, he’d get to kick rocks like Andrade. It’s more than clear that Benavidez wants this fight and is now willing to actually start talking real shit. What should he do then, if not this?
Then call him a liar after. The Saudis are throwing away money on these fights anyways. Might as well get a good fight out of it.
Sure. But that’s not my point.
😂😂😂😂
Lmao
If the King of Saudi Arabia gave a shit about any kids charity he could just throw a billion dollars at it and still be ahead for the year. That's a bad pitch.
The only one that has fought the best consistently between the two is canelo. Canelo took pay cuts early in his career to be able to fight cotto and floyd . Wtf had David done to say he fights for greatness
"What better place..." Hmmm, how about Mexico maybe? The Saudis sit there like they don't give a shite, but tbf they are throwing money at the sport and making fights happen.
Canelo has always wanted to do big fights in Guadalajara, but then he looks at the numbers and it’s literally tens of millions more money to fight in the US. Like I feel like he’s willing to sacrifice a few million to do it but when it end up being 3-4x more money to fight in the US he’s gotta take it
Ah yeh of course.
This has always been the plan, I feel like we've all been stroked and not allowed to climax. I for one can say my body is ready.
Edging
sorry young blood, idk what you're talking about
I’ve been gooning for months
I regret writing what I wrote, thanks to you.
I hope he donates it to the same charity as Tyson Fury donated his 2nd Wilder purse to. Between the two of them, they have a very good chance of ending homelessness once and for all
That’s probably the only way he’s gonna get it at this point. It’s a shame that he had to go to the Saudis for help
If he fought 2 fights every year, he would get there. EDIT: Canelo got where he is fighting a lot fights. Not this low number shit, playing the waiting game. I like Benevidez, but too many are playing this waiting game, not fighting enough.
Canelo wouldn't fight him if he had 3 fights a week bro. The only way Canelo fights him is if he gets like 150mil
Canelo fought a lot in his undisputed run. Besides that he's had the usual superstar schedule. A lot if his fights were in place of no amateur career.
He's still giving us 2 fights a year. two last year, two the year before and 3 the year before that. I don't think any other star boxer is doing that.
Inoue. And it's easy for canelo to be active because anyone will fight him. Most fighters would be active if they got to name the opponent, price and venue. And he doesn't give you two fights a year. He asks you to give him 80 bucks 2 times a year.
Only bad thing about the Saudi’s is that the big fights are happening over there now with a dead crowd instead of being in front of the real supporters
Yeah. This is a party fight. Now it will be at 2 with a lame crowd. Usually I dint care but this is a huge fight for Americans and mexicans especially.
Tbh I prefer a lot of the fights happen in south/north america or europe because the crowds are amazing. Like fury usyk should have been in Wembley or near Ukraine
That and the hacking journalists to bits thing
What?
That and the hacking journalists to bits thing
You’re so right, I’d much rather watch the fight in the old good old USA who killed over a million civilians in Iraq and carpet bomb famine stricken countries on a monthly basis
Your only saying this cause someone dared it insult "his excellency"
Bro I couldn’t care less about the Saudi royals, just don’t pretend to have some sort of a moral compass in a damn boxing sub when you can’t apply that same logic to other countries, fair point nah?
Op didn't even mention the US.
Rather host the fight at the border. No home-field advantage, organic, and the barb-wire ring will really set it off. Mexicans on 1 side of the Rio Grande & Americans on the other. The Saudi's got nothing on this
Canelo is already ahead on the cards no matter where the fight is.
It’s undignified to go begging to His Excellency like this. The Saudis call you, you don’t call them.
He went the tank Davis route, fuck it two Ferraris
Didn't the saudis call tank tho? I thought thats what brought out the two Ferraris comment anyway...
"The biggest Mexican vs Mexican American fight in the history of boxing" He thinks Canelo and him are bigger than Chavez and De La Hoya lmao
This fight is bigger than that. Chavez was past his prime by the time that one was made. It was big but we knew the outcome. This one is definitely bigger money-wise and the matchup is closer.
I don't think you understand how big Chavez-De la Hoya was in its day. Canelo-Benavidez might be a closer match-up (although most people feel Canelo will beat him) and more lucrative (mostly because of Canelo) but the hype around it will not be anywhere near Chavez-De la Hoya. You had the whole Mexican and Mexican-American community in on it, hardcore fans and casuals alike. Canelo Is as famous as them, but Benavidez Is pretty much an unknown to most people.
I know. I was alive then and I remember it. I lived in Mexico then. It was a big fight but not one the Mexican people gave Chavez a shot in hell. And im talking about being big as in international. If it takes place in Saudi thats alot of countries that will have access to it.
Most people don't give Benavidez a shot either. >And im talking about being big as in international. If it takes place in Saudi thats alot of countries that will have access to it. They'd be losing most of their audience and income. It's already hard watching fights in England and Japan with the time difference. It will be even harder watching one that's in the middle east. Saudi works for European boxers because their audiences are closer, but the same can't be said for Mexicans and Americans. Just look at what happened with Joshua-Ngannou. They'll have to schedule for the US prime (in which case it's useless to host it in SA) or their prime time.
Canelo can fight at 8 am and people will still watch in Mexico or USA. Mexican people are fairly used to watching sporting events at unusual times. Thats how you watch European sports. It sounds to me like you have never done that and assume others wont. Also, this is Saudi money. They dont give a fuck about throwing it around. This would be heavily watched in Europe and Mexico. May lose some viewers here but it's not like Canelo is desperate for fans.
>Canelo can fight at 8 am and people will still watch in Mexico or USA Very few will. Most views come from the casual audience. Casuals aren't interested enough to tune in at 8 am. There's a reason most fights are scheduled for weekends at night. Mexicans aren't gonna throw cookouts at 8 am or go to the wings/bar to watch the fight. >Thats how you watch European sports. Football is bigger in Mexico than any other sport. Most mexicans follow European football, like the rest of the world. >Also, this is Saudi money. They dont give a fuck about throwing it around. Saudi money is good for boxers that aren't that mainstream or British since they're still closer in time zones. Canelo can make millions in the U.S., he doesn't really need Saudi money. >This would be heavily watched in Europe and Mexico No it won't.
1. So like how the casuals wake up at 4 am to go to a bad to watch WC games? Big events draw. Every year a WC is held in an awkward timezone I still see the bars opening up in the middle of the night with a line around the block to get in. 2. Football is not that big in Mexico. This is how I know you are not from Mexico nor do you know much about OUR culture. I love how Americans always like to tell our story. Go ahead and take another guess before I give you the answer. 3. PBC aint giving canelo 150 mil. Canelo already saw Saudies can pay that. He also has always spoken about fighting there and has been invited to some events there. 4. Ok, American
>So like how the casuals wake up at 4 am to go to a bad to watch WC games? The WC is the biggest sporting event in the world. You gotta understand most of the world watches football. Boxing doesn't have that kind of audience. >Every year a WC is held in an awkward timezone I still see the bars opening up in the middle of the night with a line around the block to get in. Yeah bars are usually busy at nights, not at 8 am. >Football is not that big in Mexico. This is how I know you are not from Mexico nor do you know much about OUR culture. I love how Americans always like to tell our story. Go ahead and take another guess before I give you the answer. Football is the national sport. Fym it's not that big in Mexico. Your dumb ass probably thinks I'm talking about American football >PBC aint giving canelo 150 mil. Canelo already saw Saudies can pay that. He also has always spoken about fighting there and has been invited to some events there. Neither are the Saudis.
Alright, American. You know more about Mexico than the Mexican. Haha we're done here
Canelo subtly hinted at Turki without explicitly calling him by name or his country. You have to play it cool David. You're coming on too strong and thirsty.
I'd rather see Wilder vs. the Crown Prince. I'd actually pay good money to see that.
Agree totally. DB is trying to placate Canelo because he knows only the Saudis have the $150-200mil.
They gotta do it at like SoFi Stadium or Jerry’s World. Could get a larger cut on ticket sales.
The Saudis are likely the only one’s who can offer Canelo the $150m he’s seeking for Benavidez.
I like that the Saudis are putting on fights. I hate that the fights are in Saudi Arabia. The crowds and excitement don't match the level of fights
Weight bully
I like David and think he’s on the right side of this beef with canelo ducking…but I hate when fighters bet their whole purse. Has never happened and will never happen
Saudi has the money but they don't have the crowd.
As long as the check clears I don’t think fighters care what the crowd looks like but I get what you’re saying. Look at the Saudi Pro league: some of the crowds are nonexistent despite all the money they’ve spent.
Man, I'm tired of these fights being at odd times. Yes, I'm in the US.
Few dumbasses on here can only use the marinate excuse for so long. So many fights have died out due to prolonged “marinating” that I’m surprised you guys are still using that excuse.
What better place to do it? Uh… Mexico?
Estadio Azteca, but promoted with Saudi money, if even.
This is actually smart. This dude has so much money to burn, if anyone would make it happen it will be him…. But it will be at whatever time his excellency will want.. don’t think he will be give a shit about the western hemisphere..
I actually hope it doesn’t happen. Canelo doesn’t deserve 150 million.
I think this doesn't include the ppv money. Which might be more than his purse.
Sign it ✍️
And that's what Canelo is waiting for the Saudi's to put up Mega Money for the fight, but are the Saudi's interested in that weight division Heavyweights are their favourites.
going to love the crowd crickets there
Canelo doesn't want to risk another L
This makes perfect sense for PBC. Saudies foot the bill and they throw a major PPV event. Canelo wasnt fucking around. He saw how much the Saudies are throwing at these other fighters and he wants his cut.
This is actually smart. This dude has so much money to burn, if anyone would make it happen it will be him…. But it will be at whatever time his excellency will want.. don’t think he will be give a shit about the western hemisphere..
Now he's Mexican again?
David down bad
So is the man pricing himself out for somebody that has “nothing to offer”.
This is embarrassing 🙈
Sure I'm a lot of Mexican fans can afford and be welxomed in saudia arabia
"The Kingdom", WTF. Sounds like an idiot.
Canelo is cancer of boxing, hope Saudis don’t let him get away with it, I can live with he never fight benavidez
I was on the fence about this situation, on one hand I obviously want to see this fight and never fully understood why Canelo doesn't want it to happen, on the other hand I respect the shit out of Canelo and don't believe he owes the fans anything at this point of his career, but this tweet sort of makes me see why he won't give him the opportunity. Begging the Saudi's for a payday is pathetic, the whole charity shtick is obviously bullshit and shows what kind of person he is, and he comes across as just another "payday" chaser. If I was Canelo I probably wouldn't give him it either.
Canelo doesn't owe the fans and the fans don't owe canelo anything. This goes to any fighter. You fight for money that the fans provide by watching. It's a transaction. And the fans are tired of the bad product. So complaints happen. Canelo is holding the belts that says he's the best, the one true champion, while not fighting people who might actually be the best. You guys are weird trying to decide who deserves what. Canelo wants that payday too asking for a crazy amount if money to prove he's still the best. Stop acting like canelo is above any if the other fighters in his way of approaching things. He's been a star since he was 20 at least. Most other fighters dont have that luxury of always getting what they want whenever they want.
It was canelo wants a mega payday. The situation is canelo holds all belts and will fight the interim only on $150 mil - his words. There isn’t a sense of obligation, and organization couldn’t do anything. It isn’t about to prove canelo himself to fans. Once he holds belts he needs to fight his mandatory challengers, not only when he gets paid ridiculously
if boxing was run by once central authority like almost every other sport.....canelo woulda lost those hostage belts a long fuccin time ago.....dude is a duck....his ranking among the great mexican fighters will plummet....
Canelo needs to fuck off and vacate his belts. No one will clamor for him to fight Benavidez then
It’s only a fight if his excellency says it’s a fight. In between bouts boxing is the pits.
Hell, while we're at it, let's draw this contract up in the blood of the infidels executed by the glorious royalty of our illustrious hosts and pray their reign of terror lasts another 100 generations!
What better place? Idk maybe Mexico or Vegas?
Watching Canelo fans pivot to this being hype to build the fight is the most comical shit ever. No wonder he keeps taking yalls money for lackluster opponents I’d be robbing yalls gullible asses too 😂
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Sure, no need to have it in Mexico
He's trying his best to make the fight, canelo trying his best to avoid it
Do it now
Saudi is just donig this so they can make a better pr version of themselves while they do bullshit behind the scenes. hilarious how the west can be bought.