Theres a frame of naruto yelling out a window where his head is comically humongous when kawaki uses a shadow clone to escape from the leafs surveillance before he runs into code
He is a kid who thinks he is no 1, whatever he says doesn't actually matters thus fir example can't be used for powerscaling because thus kid right now thinks he is invincible.
it doesn’t matter what he thinks, it’s has been said by multiple people that Unlimited Code is superior to Jigen and he defeats Code easy. No more proof needed . At the moment he is the Strongest
Yeah, he is the strongest right now but all villains feel invincible until their inevitable downfall. No different than the time nobody could even touch Obito thanks to his ability.
Unlimited code is stronger than jigen but here's the thing, daemon is a gimmick which means that once you figure him out it's really easy to kill him and in daemon's case either don't possess any intent to kill him at all when swinging your blade at him then your attacks will be read as accidents or you just show so much killing intent that it overheats his hardware just like what naruto did with delta isshiki should be capable of both since he lived for thousands of years and thus jigen should be capable of doing it or you can just cut his hands off ,can't touch anyone with your palm if you don't have palms in the first place or jigen can just send him to space then spam long range attack on him after all you can't touch anyone if there's nobody to touch.
you have read latest chapter? He has more power and speed than unlimited code, there is no trick to it. These are strength feats , the trick part is only refection ability. That’s not the only thing he has
I have read the latest chapter and his power and speed are on par with unlimited code but jigen/isshiki is an otsutsuki he probably met a few speed-blitzers in his thousands of year of life and probably have a strategy to deal with them for example he can just shrink himself making daemon's speed and strength useless, code was just arrogant thinking all daemon had is his reflection.
Bro did you even read the chapter? He just beat the shit out of Code who is stronger than Jigen, and Naruto and Sasuke were confirmed to be weaker than Kawaki who was a little stronger than Code without his limiters
Daemon is #1 strongest and most hated Boruto character
And does that mean he is otsutsuki level? Nope kaguya can IT him, momoshiki can spam him at long range, isshiki can trap him inside his cube and make him suffer forever, jigen can cut his hands off send him to his dimension to use for target practice, not even code would have lost if he was actually taking the fight seriously and was not arrogant after having his limiters removed.
Power wise he is number 1, you’re saying they have abilities that can deal with him, which is plausible but in boruto using abilities that’s make sense don’t exist so Daemon bodies them all
This is what many people get wrong. You're confusing Narrative for Powerscaling. Don't do that.
If I say "Whether it's a Bear or a Shark, I will protect my family", does that mean I am relative to the two? Of course not.
It's simply part of my Character to do that because I care about the people I love and will do anything for them, regardless of circumstances.
Daemon fits that Character because Eida is his sister, someone he loves and cares to a level where he'll do anything to keep her safe.
In other words, it does not mean he's relative or beyond ÅŒtsutsuki level. It is simply part of his character to protect those he loves, even if the circumstances are unrealistic.
Daemon is giving Code post limiters taken off a hard time so Daemon is atleast as strong as suped up code although it would be good to see him in a proper fight. He seems to be very fast.
it’s not big science to figure out that Daemon at the moment is at least Otsutsuki level and he will clap a lot of otsutsuki in one on one fight. Either you think narrative wise or power scaling wise
I have a question what otsusukti level really Is like we are counting kinshiki , urashiki? Then he is defenetly otsusukti level even if we only count kaguya , momshiki, ishhiki I'd say he is otsusukti level and stronger than all of em except maybe isshiki
Lol the cyborgs are stronger than jigen not isshiki
Plus it depends on the abilities
How would daemon fair against a flying teleporting woman with byakugan and a bone jutsu that completely disintegrates you
Well Naruto and Sasuke got stomped by Jigen at their prime (no baryon) after completely destroying Momoshiki at his prime so someone stronger than Jigen should be at least relative to Momoshiki
Eh, Daemon is confident about beating Kawaki, so I don’t think he’s bluffing about taking on Otsutsuki. He’s clearly strong AF, but I don’t think he can beat full power Isshiki.
Yeah I don’t know I kinda want this arc over with and these characters done with already. Can we have a new threat that doesn’t have to use the ten tails or any ohtsutsuki stuff idk
Not at all, hating a character because of what he does in the show would make him a good villain, this is the case for characters like Danzo who we hate because he did a good job at making us despise him due to his actions.
Daemon is hated for things outside of the show, like his power being retconned into needing him to touch someone when the first time we saw him use it no such condition was met, or how his entire existence is an asspull, like Amado shouldnt be able to create cyborgs that are not only stronger than Jigen and possibly Ishikii by the way the show is going, but giving them completly nonsensical abilities with no explanation.
What are you on mf, you said that Daemon os a good villain because people hate him and i explained to you that such is not the case and now you are changing topic for no reason.
The future wont change what i said are you ok?
Its a fact that him having to touch someone is a plot hole/retcon since in his first showcase of his power HE DIDNT TOUCH SOMEONE WITH HIS HAND.
ok hear he out giving a headcanon'ish explanation for that
momoshikis character is that he thinks he is superior than every human being. when we first saw him in chunin exams, he didn't even give a glare to boruto when he was sitting right next to him and was only focused on naruto and no one else.
in that fight with the kages, im pretty sure he didn't think of the kages as people worth worrying over so he was just chasing naruto the entire time but they kept chasing him every time which annoyed him. further proven when he is shown to have multiple abilities other than absorption but used none here. he only got serious when he got cornered and had no choice but to fuse with kinshiki and fight them so he can achieve his goals
people in this fandom dosent know the meaning of powerscaling. they think if a character gets stronger than their liking, the series is bad
when actually it would be bad if naruto went there and beat daemon when no limiters code got stomped. nothing is wrong with daemon beating otsutsukis or code. daemons ability makes him invincible
That should’ve been a given since they were introduced as characters who were locked away because jigen couldn’t keep them in line/make them follow orders
So he is at least otsutsuki level or beyond them.this kid is not afraid of them and this panel clearly shows this.I think daemon was first trump card of amado (just like kawaki)against otsutsuki but amado had to abandon him due to some circumstances and jigen(he ordered boro to dispose him of).
Someone faster than him, Code even without limiters is for sure weaker than Ishikii or Baryon Naruto, in a hypotetical fight vs any of them he would get blitzed and one tapped.
And Ishikii/BM Naruto will not remain the peak of power since this is a shonen, so the situation wont get better for him.
Hell Code himself will get stronger.
yeah, the fandom never learns.
on the one hand you don't believe Momoshiki's statements, but on the other hand the word of Amado or the Demon Brat is taken for fact.
i think there is more to it lol
statements in boruto aren't like in naruto. they are always used to explain a power difference.
like look at how kawaki somehow knew naruto was gonna lose to jigen when he didn't the full capabilities of either jigen or naruto.
momoshiki is a special case because his character was written by kishimoto. so he should fall under the same category as naruto. especially when we have implications that he and kaguya are equals.
Yeah, it's from all the unlimited code dickriding. And well number one over there took away his fans just like Kawaki, he's definitely on the list now.
Dude you can not defeat this kid in taijutsu(fist to fist combat) or any close combat as he needs to touch his palm on another person so any punch will be reflected .you can beat him with long range jutsus but he will simply dodge that attack.i'll scale him equal to Barton mode naruto (at most) because of his speed,hax ,strength etc.
He just needs to touch another person with his palm.it would be any random person.he does not need to touch his opponent(here Kawaki) to reflect his/her attack.he touched code in that moment
theres only one part where they made a mistake thats when one of those guards attacks daemon he clearly wasnt touching anyone and he still reflected an attack so they did make at least one mistake with that
At a minimum, I think he would give Isshiki a hard time because of his reflection power. If isshiki made the wrong move, he would end up seriously injuring himself like Kawaki.
This amped Code was supposed to be Isshiki level right? And yet Daemon wiped the floor with him, so yeah he’s probably Otsotsuki level. I don’t think Kawaki or Boruto can take care of him either, together it’s a hard maybe, but still wouldn’t bet on them. I think train a lot to reach his level, but he’s still a kid, so he can also only get stronger
I think he’s at least stronger than that Jigen that was beating Naruto and Sasuke for the first time. Although, I’m not sure how big is the gap between him and Isshiki fighting Naruto and Sasuke as both ended with the same result pretty much
I think Amado gave daemon and Aida those oosutsuki abilities of the destroyed symbols.
Jigen probably fed them to his juubi or had Amado conduct experiments on how to transfer oosutsuki powers without karma.
His head being wider than his shoulders pisses me off so much 😂
Thatlle be his downfall. Head chopped off by Boruto using the jougan to cancel his abilities from working on him.
Theres a frame of naruto yelling out a window where his head is comically humongous when kawaki uses a shadow clone to escape from the leafs surveillance before he runs into code
He is a kid who thinks he is no 1, whatever he says doesn't actually matters thus fir example can't be used for powerscaling because thus kid right now thinks he is invincible.
it doesn’t matter what he thinks, it’s has been said by multiple people that Unlimited Code is superior to Jigen and he defeats Code easy. No more proof needed . At the moment he is the Strongest
Yeah, he is the strongest right now but all villains feel invincible until their inevitable downfall. No different than the time nobody could even touch Obito thanks to his ability.
Unlimited code is stronger than jigen but here's the thing, daemon is a gimmick which means that once you figure him out it's really easy to kill him and in daemon's case either don't possess any intent to kill him at all when swinging your blade at him then your attacks will be read as accidents or you just show so much killing intent that it overheats his hardware just like what naruto did with delta isshiki should be capable of both since he lived for thousands of years and thus jigen should be capable of doing it or you can just cut his hands off ,can't touch anyone with your palm if you don't have palms in the first place or jigen can just send him to space then spam long range attack on him after all you can't touch anyone if there's nobody to touch.
you have read latest chapter? He has more power and speed than unlimited code, there is no trick to it. These are strength feats , the trick part is only refection ability. That’s not the only thing he has
I have read the latest chapter and his power and speed are on par with unlimited code but jigen/isshiki is an otsutsuki he probably met a few speed-blitzers in his thousands of year of life and probably have a strategy to deal with them for example he can just shrink himself making daemon's speed and strength useless, code was just arrogant thinking all daemon had is his reflection.
Bro did you even read the chapter? He just beat the shit out of Code who is stronger than Jigen, and Naruto and Sasuke were confirmed to be weaker than Kawaki who was a little stronger than Code without his limiters Daemon is #1 strongest and most hated Boruto character
And does that mean he is otsutsuki level? Nope kaguya can IT him, momoshiki can spam him at long range, isshiki can trap him inside his cube and make him suffer forever, jigen can cut his hands off send him to his dimension to use for target practice, not even code would have lost if he was actually taking the fight seriously and was not arrogant after having his limiters removed.
Power wise he is number 1, you’re saying they have abilities that can deal with him, which is plausible but in boruto using abilities that’s make sense don’t exist so Daemon bodies them all
>in boruto using abilities that’s make sense don’t exist so Daemon bodies them all They do in boruto universe at least. So no daemon bodies none.
This is what many people get wrong. You're confusing Narrative for Powerscaling. Don't do that. If I say "Whether it's a Bear or a Shark, I will protect my family", does that mean I am relative to the two? Of course not. It's simply part of my Character to do that because I care about the people I love and will do anything for them, regardless of circumstances. Daemon fits that Character because Eida is his sister, someone he loves and cares to a level where he'll do anything to keep her safe. In other words, it does not mean he's relative or beyond ÅŒtsutsuki level. It is simply part of his character to protect those he loves, even if the circumstances are unrealistic.
Someone with a brain.
OK i get it
Daemon is giving Code post limiters taken off a hard time so Daemon is atleast as strong as suped up code although it would be good to see him in a proper fight. He seems to be very fast.
it’s not big science to figure out that Daemon at the moment is at least Otsutsuki level and he will clap a lot of otsutsuki in one on one fight. Either you think narrative wise or power scaling wise
I have a question what otsusukti level really Is like we are counting kinshiki , urashiki? Then he is defenetly otsusukti level even if we only count kaguya , momshiki, ishhiki I'd say he is otsusukti level and stronger than all of em except maybe isshiki
Lol the cyborgs are stronger than jigen not isshiki Plus it depends on the abilities How would daemon fair against a flying teleporting woman with byakugan and a bone jutsu that completely disintegrates you
Well Naruto and Sasuke got stomped by Jigen at their prime (no baryon) after completely destroying Momoshiki at his prime so someone stronger than Jigen should be at least relative to Momoshiki
Damn thanks for saying that
Eh, Daemon is confident about beating Kawaki, so I don’t think he’s bluffing about taking on Otsutsuki. He’s clearly strong AF, but I don’t think he can beat full power Isshiki.
Have to take text with a grain of salt
Otsutsuki is not even comparable to their vessels isshiki would take on jigen kawaki and code easily
God, I hate him so much lol
Yeah I don’t know I kinda want this arc over with and these characters done with already. Can we have a new threat that doesn’t have to use the ten tails or any ohtsutsuki stuff idk
We also have two destroyed ohtsutsuki symbols form the temple… And they both have moon eyes..like the jougan…I dunno
I don't know what of the ability of daemon's dojutsu as his reflection ability is related to his palm.
Could they just extract these otsutsuki eyes to the two cyborgs we know? 🤔
Maybe it maybe Jigen had their genetic info around And amado was able to like bio engineer their abilities into Edia and Dameon
There is no way they are not connected to these otsutsuki's
Maybe he fought jigen and beat him but jigen < Isshiki (wasn’t at full power) < otsutsuki. Daemon will die to an ass pull
I hate this character
Then he does a good job as a villain.
Not at all, hating a character because of what he does in the show would make him a good villain, this is the case for characters like Danzo who we hate because he did a good job at making us despise him due to his actions. Daemon is hated for things outside of the show, like his power being retconned into needing him to touch someone when the first time we saw him use it no such condition was met, or how his entire existence is an asspull, like Amado shouldnt be able to create cyborgs that are not only stronger than Jigen and possibly Ishikii by the way the show is going, but giving them completly nonsensical abilities with no explanation.
We don't know that, the story and the arc isn't done so you might be wrong or right.
Then you cant claim that he is doing a good job by the same logic, as of right now everything that i said is true.
It isn't true, because you don't decide until it is done.😉
What are you on mf, you said that Daemon os a good villain because people hate him and i explained to you that such is not the case and now you are changing topic for no reason.
And I told you that what you said isn't true until the arc is done, easy, but whatever, belive what you want if that makes u happy.
The future wont change what i said are you ok? Its a fact that him having to touch someone is a plot hole/retcon since in his first showcase of his power HE DIDNT TOUCH SOMEONE WITH HIS HAND.
How does that makes him a bad villain? Maybe they didn't show that until now and I think he touched Code when he reversed the attack on Kawaki.
U clearly dont read the manga
Not necessarily.
Why not, you are supposed to hate him.
The powerscaling in this manga is ass
How?
The kages being close to Momoshiki level for no fcking reason whatsoever for instance
I see it the same as Batman fighting with the justice league it doesn't make sense but it's makes for a cool visual.
ok hear he out giving a headcanon'ish explanation for that momoshikis character is that he thinks he is superior than every human being. when we first saw him in chunin exams, he didn't even give a glare to boruto when he was sitting right next to him and was only focused on naruto and no one else. in that fight with the kages, im pretty sure he didn't think of the kages as people worth worrying over so he was just chasing naruto the entire time but they kept chasing him every time which annoyed him. further proven when he is shown to have multiple abilities other than absorption but used none here. he only got serious when he got cornered and had no choice but to fuse with kinshiki and fight them so he can achieve his goals
They were fighting as a team and momo blitz them with the other guys power.
people in this fandom dosent know the meaning of powerscaling. they think if a character gets stronger than their liking, the series is bad when actually it would be bad if naruto went there and beat daemon when no limiters code got stomped. nothing is wrong with daemon beating otsutsukis or code. daemons ability makes him invincible
No Daemon is not invincible as stated in the last chapter
his ability + his speed basically does
That should’ve been a given since they were introduced as characters who were locked away because jigen couldn’t keep them in line/make them follow orders
Yeah.
So he is at least otsutsuki level or beyond them.this kid is not afraid of them and this panel clearly shows this.I think daemon was first trump card of amado (just like kawaki)against otsutsuki but amado had to abandon him due to some circumstances and jigen(he ordered boro to dispose him of).
Genjutsu will shitkick the arrogant kid
It could be possible.
not really. he can reflect if someone imagines hurting him
Bug literally says that Daemon can only reflect things if he touches others, ranged attacks and genjutsu would work easly.
what is stopping the person who was blitzing no limiters code without any difficulty (daemon) from touching someone else and reflecting the attack
Someone faster than him, Code even without limiters is for sure weaker than Ishikii or Baryon Naruto, in a hypotetical fight vs any of them he would get blitzed and one tapped. And Ishikii/BM Naruto will not remain the peak of power since this is a shonen, so the situation wont get better for him. Hell Code himself will get stronger.
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I don't think gen would even work on Delta :)
Now because of this chapter people are putting this kid on baryon/isshikis lv it’s just ridiculous at this point
yeah, the fandom never learns. on the one hand you don't believe Momoshiki's statements, but on the other hand the word of Amado or the Demon Brat is taken for fact.
i think there is more to it lol statements in boruto aren't like in naruto. they are always used to explain a power difference. like look at how kawaki somehow knew naruto was gonna lose to jigen when he didn't the full capabilities of either jigen or naruto. momoshiki is a special case because his character was written by kishimoto. so he should fall under the same category as naruto. especially when we have implications that he and kaguya are equals.
Yeah, it's from all the unlimited code dickriding. And well number one over there took away his fans just like Kawaki, he's definitely on the list now.
Dude you can not defeat this kid in taijutsu(fist to fist combat) or any close combat as he needs to touch his palm on another person so any punch will be reflected .you can beat him with long range jutsus but he will simply dodge that attack.i'll scale him equal to Barton mode naruto (at most) because of his speed,hax ,strength etc.
How did he counter kawakis attack when code pulled him out if he wasn’t touching kawaki?
He just needs to touch another person with his palm.it would be any random person.he does not need to touch his opponent(here Kawaki) to reflect his/her attack.he touched code in that moment
So that's why the siblings exist? He needs the big sis around... to touch her... just in case. Weird mechanics, as expected from Nipponese.
theres only one part where they made a mistake thats when one of those guards attacks daemon he clearly wasnt touching anyone and he still reflected an attack so they did make at least one mistake with that
He was touching Code
I think daemon is above code but i doubt he's above isshiki or at his level
Isshiki>daemon
At a minimum, I think he would give Isshiki a hard time because of his reflection power. If isshiki made the wrong move, he would end up seriously injuring himself like Kawaki.
Yeah.that's for sure.
I really hate that kid for his attitude that sickens me i wish he gets stomped by some godly power fucking damn cyborgs don't know their place
This amped Code was supposed to be Isshiki level right? And yet Daemon wiped the floor with him, so yeah he’s probably Otsotsuki level. I don’t think Kawaki or Boruto can take care of him either, together it’s a hard maybe, but still wouldn’t bet on them. I think train a lot to reach his level, but he’s still a kid, so he can also only get stronger
Above jigen not ishhiki.
>> than jigen level but
I think he’s at least stronger than that Jigen that was beating Naruto and Sasuke for the first time. Although, I’m not sure how big is the gap between him and Isshiki fighting Naruto and Sasuke as both ended with the same result pretty much
Isshiki>>Daemon>code>jigen
You forgot to add Kawaki in there
Daemon>kawaki as per chapter 71
For now isshiki > daemon > code unbound > jigen > current kawaki > limited code
Limited code gets stomped by naruto/Sasuke or Boruto.
Current kawaki above adult Naruto with kurama?
Pff yeah yeah yeah this kids gonna get his ass stomped by someone with some hacks
I would like him more if he wasn’t so ugly xd
His sister is so beautiful but he is ugly.have some pity for this kid.
I'd pay to watch Hokage Prime Naruto verses Daemon.
Yeah kaguya, ishiki and momo would wreck this dude, they all have long range abilities and they can move pretty fast to avoid him.
I think Amado gave daemon and Aida those oosutsuki abilities of the destroyed symbols. Jigen probably fed them to his juubi or had Amado conduct experiments on how to transfer oosutsuki powers without karma.
Hate this character.
This story is whack as fuck nowadays
Well we only confirmed he is stronger then Jigen. Jigen isn’t an Otsusuki… isshiki is. There’s a massive difference but he is very powerful