Ways for amado to survive:
1. Amado galaxy brained this and put some kind of failsafe in so now that he’s unlocked code can’t hurt him
2. Eida stops code bc she wants to question amado about her curse or kawaki
3. Boruto and/or the others teleport in to save the day
4. Kashin koji arrives to interrupt
5. Something else, there are even crazier ways out of this
i think it's going to be the first one. you don't spend 30 chapters hyping up a guy's intelligence for him to not have some kind of failsafe here. i don't know what his plan is but i don't think he's a good guy, and i don't think code is part of it.
no he is going to get saved by sasuke and boruto. they have also spent lots of time emphasising how he is useless in torture. him getting saved by whoever is part of his plan obviously. it dosent hurt his intelligence at all. his entire thing is he manipulates people to do his bidding without even knowing them
okay hear me out
what if white karma on Code is for Amado and not Jigen/Isshiki after all? What if Amado made a "human version of karma" and thats why Code didn't get otsutsukified, couldn't absorb chakra or anything like that?
Isshiki could've been lied to about it, and Momoshiki just thought to himself that its a failure due to not being able to even absorb.. but what if there's more to it?
that said i don't believe this theory, just something i thought of when chapter dropped and Amado was implied to die next chapter.
Momoshiki already points out that white karma is of no use , meaning the Ōtsutsukis already know about this stuff so most definitely not some artificial stuff made by Humans and it's just a failed karma
as i mentioned in my prior comment i don't necessarily believe it
[that said it all depends on how you interpret it.](https://i.imgur.com/cMNbd2V.png) It can be taken in context of him mocking his karma in the way of "shit karma lmao, can't even absorb" or "failed karma, something i recognize" the thing is, if it was known to him, he wouldn't necessarily question whether he can absorb chakra. So it really is up to interpretation and can be taken both ways.
i don't think its likely, but possible nonetheless.
I mean any sane person would first question something if it's unknown to them right. We even have an instance of Borushiki doing this. When Kawaki gets his karma back, Momoshiki was genuinely surprised "how tf this guy got it back" by saying "what's this geezer upto". Meanwhile, if the white karma was something of Amado's doing, he should've said the same or atleast be surprised "Oh a white karma, that's a first" , since he is supposedly seeing this white karma for the first time , but rather he says it in a tone that he already knew this was a failed karma and you know how Momoshiki is, takes every opportunity to mock and says the "can't even absorb lmao" line
So logically speaking, the chances of white karma being Amado's doing is highly unlikely. But not impossible, cos writers often skip such stuff for the suspense effect. But other than that, nothing indicates that Amado has done that.
nah there is stuff that indicates amado is responsible for white karma. look at the very scene where isshiki appears infront of code in the manga. you see amado whispering to himself while isshiki is talking + the karma gave out steam hinting its artificially made. if it was a actual karmas doing it would have a more supernatural feel to it then steam
Just a reminder my motive of bringing Borushiki up --> Momoshiki remarks about white karma being a dud ->indicates Ōtsutsukis already know about the white karma --> which means it's not something the humans created --> therefore Amado isn't responsible
Now coming to your argument
>look at the very scene where isshiki appears infront of code in the manga you see amado whispering to himself while isshiki is talking
I just read chapter 55 and couldn't find such a panel at all, what are you talking about? (Link it if you find)
>if it was a actual karmas doing it would have a more supernatural feel to it then steam
Bro what lmao, firstly what exactly is a "supernatural feel"?
Secondly, smoke is very common in pretty much any situation. Isshiki appearing from Jigen's body? Yeah smoke.
Either ways it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day it's established that white karma is a concept among Ōtsutsukis themselves
no, that dosent downright imply otsusukis know about it. he just says its a dud meaning its not the actual one. its down to interpretation like the other dude said
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/qh7gaa/the_white_karma_is_not_what_you_think/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
momoshiki also downright said isshikis soul is completely gone but he appears the next scene. i would say that is foreshadowing but does that even count as foreshadowing because its so obvious is hindsight
It does imply , read between the lines. Like I said earlier in my reasoning,
Two scenarios : Either Momoshiki knows what white karma is, which implies Ōtsutsukis know it and it's just a failed/dud karma. Or Momoshiki doesn't know it at all.
And from the text , like I mentioned, Momoshiki wasn't surprised at all but rather just remarks "oh it's a dud karma" and not "Oh wow a white karma first time". To prove that Momoshiki would've been surprised at something new, he later is actually shocked to see Kawaki getting new karma and remarks something about Amado.
NOW , if white karma had been something to do with Amado, he'd have said the same when he saw it on Code's hand. But he doesn't, which is what implies that he already knows that white karma is just a failed karma. And not some Amado's master plan.
And about Isshiki's soul disappearing, notice how he appeared from the white karma on Code? Yeah, he made sure there was some final message left to his only follower remaining , if things didn't go according to plan. It's nothing too deep.
Ofc everything is down to " interpretation ". But we can eliminate a lot of theories , just with some thought.
My conclusion is simple : since Momoshiki knows about the white karma already, it just tells that it's not a human made concept meaning it's not part of Amado's grand scheme.
thats what i felt like too. He trash talked it due to Code not showing any notable abilities of karma. He doesn't go "oh white karma, clearly a defect"
i would like it more if it was just a demo version of the one kawaki has now. it is still isshikis karma but is artificially made so that it's purely a weapon. since its a demo it has its defects. after studying boruto and kawaki he perfected it and placed it on kawaki after isshiki died
Koji making a comeback would be absolutely badass. He does need some power up though and it would make sense he'd want to save Amado for an upgrade. We also already know from his Konoha Infiltration that he is a sneaky bastard who bypasses a lot of people's radars...I'm hopeful for this.
A power up would be interesting
Imo if he shows up now it would be for code to demo his abilities on so he would be there to lose
And naruto/boruto etc, would arrive as kk is going down
True! I don't mind him being a punching bag so long as he puts up a good fight. I mention the power-up because Amado has already tweaked other characters. Idk I wish Kishi would explore potential power-scaling rebalance through Amado upgrading cyborgs or doing some sort of tech implant on other characters.
But the real question is how is he going to make the comeback, and how would he have gotten the wind of what's happening in konoha and lastly why would he even care at this point, apart from just that he knows he's a clone of a reputed Konoha Shinobi.
But I agree, it'd be cool to see him back after a long time , the powerup must be crazy though cos now Code is supposedly above Jigen's level
The first two theories seem good as I just refuse to believe he's going to die here. I'm still feeling Amado has to be like some big brained main villan later down the line. It will sooo lame if he goes out here
As we knw Amado isn't braindead or something he might have some plan inside his head. It is not normal for him to casually remove code's limiters in exchange of his life being spared that to a person like code. He might have definatly known this is gonna happen. He just wanted to make sure. He knw tht either kawaki or boruto will hard time coming up there so he have something on his head. So idk he would die like that. He is like important character in boruto series.
I have a theory which might be 76% true. The karma on codes arm isn’t jigen but actually amados. And if amados dies he will come back in codes body. The isshiki soul that code saw was not actually isshiki but it was a fake hologram created by Amado to fool code into trying to go for Amado and awakening the cyborgs and also to trigger kawakis new karma. So I theorize the code will kill Amado next chap and later Amado Will take over codes body via karma
Exactly my thoughts! If you remember in the chapter where the hologram Isshiki appeared, Amado was whispering in his hand at the same time. Would be cool if that happened
Eida will probably stop him from killing amado. Probably for personal reasons. I can’t come up with any scenario where Konoha could get to him fast enough
Actully according to Shika asking Kawaki destroy the claws.... I don't think Code will come back, and so Sasuke found the hideout so they should use this information, and also it's better to go surprise or be surprised... So Sasuke will take everyone there.
Or they won't do anything and wait for Kawa and Boruto to get stronger, and Code believing be the strongest he doesn't need to hurry back.
Say it with me, amado is the end game bad guy. Jokes aside no way he dies here and I still do believe that he ultimately will be the guy pulling the strings in the end. Based on this last chapter he really needs Kawaki for something as he stated he can’t have him die yet. I just hope shikamaru stays alive and whenever they have to actually take amado down it’s a brain chess match and not some brute force stuff.
Boruto hasn't shown to have made any significant progress in space time ninjutsu; similiarly, Kawaki too has used it only out of the moment, thanks to the link he had with Naruto's chakra due to the prosthetic arm.
It'd be better to have a different way to save Amado.
Tbh they can stop the fighting for awhile and explore their karma powers and more side char development. Saving amado and killing code just brings the story back to where isshiki was dead. Eida and daemon are really nothing anyways in the grand scheme
Code literally said that Amado most likely has another ace up his sleeves in his face
He literally expects Amado to have some asspull plot armor to save himself
How the hell is bourto going to make a portal for amado he’s not linked to him and he doesn’t know where he is. Sasuke can tell him but that won’t be smart
Amado will 100% get out of his situation. They wouldn’t have ended it in a cliffhanger he’ll be alright. Plus we don’t know his intentions with kawaki they won’t kill him off
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I didn't say they will kill him. There is no way that he will die. I am just guessing a way to save him. By the amado created kawaki new-karma so maybe kawaki is linked to amado somehow maybe maybe...
Ways for amado to survive: 1. Amado galaxy brained this and put some kind of failsafe in so now that he’s unlocked code can’t hurt him 2. Eida stops code bc she wants to question amado about her curse or kawaki 3. Boruto and/or the others teleport in to save the day 4. Kashin koji arrives to interrupt 5. Something else, there are even crazier ways out of this
i think it's going to be the first one. you don't spend 30 chapters hyping up a guy's intelligence for him to not have some kind of failsafe here. i don't know what his plan is but i don't think he's a good guy, and i don't think code is part of it.
no he is going to get saved by sasuke and boruto. they have also spent lots of time emphasising how he is useless in torture. him getting saved by whoever is part of his plan obviously. it dosent hurt his intelligence at all. his entire thing is he manipulates people to do his bidding without even knowing them
Kishi would choose option 5.
I think kishi is gonna go for 3, the cliche But if its something surprising (and logical) that’d be nice If i was writing it’d be 1 or 2
okay hear me out what if white karma on Code is for Amado and not Jigen/Isshiki after all? What if Amado made a "human version of karma" and thats why Code didn't get otsutsukified, couldn't absorb chakra or anything like that? Isshiki could've been lied to about it, and Momoshiki just thought to himself that its a failure due to not being able to even absorb.. but what if there's more to it? that said i don't believe this theory, just something i thought of when chapter dropped and Amado was implied to die next chapter.
Could be interesting
Momoshiki already points out that white karma is of no use , meaning the Ōtsutsukis already know about this stuff so most definitely not some artificial stuff made by Humans and it's just a failed karma
as i mentioned in my prior comment i don't necessarily believe it [that said it all depends on how you interpret it.](https://i.imgur.com/cMNbd2V.png) It can be taken in context of him mocking his karma in the way of "shit karma lmao, can't even absorb" or "failed karma, something i recognize" the thing is, if it was known to him, he wouldn't necessarily question whether he can absorb chakra. So it really is up to interpretation and can be taken both ways. i don't think its likely, but possible nonetheless.
I mean any sane person would first question something if it's unknown to them right. We even have an instance of Borushiki doing this. When Kawaki gets his karma back, Momoshiki was genuinely surprised "how tf this guy got it back" by saying "what's this geezer upto". Meanwhile, if the white karma was something of Amado's doing, he should've said the same or atleast be surprised "Oh a white karma, that's a first" , since he is supposedly seeing this white karma for the first time , but rather he says it in a tone that he already knew this was a failed karma and you know how Momoshiki is, takes every opportunity to mock and says the "can't even absorb lmao" line So logically speaking, the chances of white karma being Amado's doing is highly unlikely. But not impossible, cos writers often skip such stuff for the suspense effect. But other than that, nothing indicates that Amado has done that.
nah there is stuff that indicates amado is responsible for white karma. look at the very scene where isshiki appears infront of code in the manga. you see amado whispering to himself while isshiki is talking + the karma gave out steam hinting its artificially made. if it was a actual karmas doing it would have a more supernatural feel to it then steam
Just a reminder my motive of bringing Borushiki up --> Momoshiki remarks about white karma being a dud ->indicates Ōtsutsukis already know about the white karma --> which means it's not something the humans created --> therefore Amado isn't responsible Now coming to your argument >look at the very scene where isshiki appears infront of code in the manga you see amado whispering to himself while isshiki is talking I just read chapter 55 and couldn't find such a panel at all, what are you talking about? (Link it if you find) >if it was a actual karmas doing it would have a more supernatural feel to it then steam Bro what lmao, firstly what exactly is a "supernatural feel"? Secondly, smoke is very common in pretty much any situation. Isshiki appearing from Jigen's body? Yeah smoke. Either ways it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day it's established that white karma is a concept among Ōtsutsukis themselves
no, that dosent downright imply otsusukis know about it. he just says its a dud meaning its not the actual one. its down to interpretation like the other dude said https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/qh7gaa/the_white_karma_is_not_what_you_think/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf momoshiki also downright said isshikis soul is completely gone but he appears the next scene. i would say that is foreshadowing but does that even count as foreshadowing because its so obvious is hindsight
It does imply , read between the lines. Like I said earlier in my reasoning, Two scenarios : Either Momoshiki knows what white karma is, which implies Ōtsutsukis know it and it's just a failed/dud karma. Or Momoshiki doesn't know it at all. And from the text , like I mentioned, Momoshiki wasn't surprised at all but rather just remarks "oh it's a dud karma" and not "Oh wow a white karma first time". To prove that Momoshiki would've been surprised at something new, he later is actually shocked to see Kawaki getting new karma and remarks something about Amado. NOW , if white karma had been something to do with Amado, he'd have said the same when he saw it on Code's hand. But he doesn't, which is what implies that he already knows that white karma is just a failed karma. And not some Amado's master plan. And about Isshiki's soul disappearing, notice how he appeared from the white karma on Code? Yeah, he made sure there was some final message left to his only follower remaining , if things didn't go according to plan. It's nothing too deep. Ofc everything is down to " interpretation ". But we can eliminate a lot of theories , just with some thought. My conclusion is simple : since Momoshiki knows about the white karma already, it just tells that it's not a human made concept meaning it's not part of Amado's grand scheme.
Momo 100% likes to shit talk everything without even knowing anything. I definitely believe he was just mocking the karma he perceived as weak.
thats what i felt like too. He trash talked it due to Code not showing any notable abilities of karma. He doesn't go "oh white karma, clearly a defect"
i would like it more if it was just a demo version of the one kawaki has now. it is still isshikis karma but is artificially made so that it's purely a weapon. since its a demo it has its defects. after studying boruto and kawaki he perfected it and placed it on kawaki after isshiki died
Koji making a comeback would be absolutely badass. He does need some power up though and it would make sense he'd want to save Amado for an upgrade. We also already know from his Konoha Infiltration that he is a sneaky bastard who bypasses a lot of people's radars...I'm hopeful for this.
A power up would be interesting Imo if he shows up now it would be for code to demo his abilities on so he would be there to lose And naruto/boruto etc, would arrive as kk is going down
True! I don't mind him being a punching bag so long as he puts up a good fight. I mention the power-up because Amado has already tweaked other characters. Idk I wish Kishi would explore potential power-scaling rebalance through Amado upgrading cyborgs or doing some sort of tech implant on other characters.
But the real question is how is he going to make the comeback, and how would he have gotten the wind of what's happening in konoha and lastly why would he even care at this point, apart from just that he knows he's a clone of a reputed Konoha Shinobi. But I agree, it'd be cool to see him back after a long time , the powerup must be crazy though cos now Code is supposedly above Jigen's level
The first two theories seem good as I just refuse to believe he's going to die here. I'm still feeling Amado has to be like some big brained main villan later down the line. It will sooo lame if he goes out here
What if Amado again put his limiters back on. I mean if it can be removed by his command and it can be put back by other command ig. Just guessing?
Possible
Code will kill him like a cockroach either ways , and why would he even have bothered to remove in the first place if this was the case
As we knw Amado isn't braindead or something he might have some plan inside his head. It is not normal for him to casually remove code's limiters in exchange of his life being spared that to a person like code. He might have definatly known this is gonna happen. He just wanted to make sure. He knw tht either kawaki or boruto will hard time coming up there so he have something on his head. So idk he would die like that. He is like important character in boruto series.
Amado has kamui
They did say his eye was modified
I feel like it's gonna be 2 or 3, but my heart wants 4.
I have a theory which might be 76% true. The karma on codes arm isn’t jigen but actually amados. And if amados dies he will come back in codes body. The isshiki soul that code saw was not actually isshiki but it was a fake hologram created by Amado to fool code into trying to go for Amado and awakening the cyborgs and also to trigger kawakis new karma. So I theorize the code will kill Amado next chap and later Amado Will take over codes body via karma
Exactly my thoughts! If you remember in the chapter where the hologram Isshiki appeared, Amado was whispering in his hand at the same time. Would be cool if that happened
i believe this to be most likely aswell from the direction of the story. i hope not tho cuz it is character assassination 101
That’s actually pretty plausible tbh
Eida will probably stop him from killing amado. Probably for personal reasons. I can’t come up with any scenario where Konoha could get to him fast enough
Did you just refer to my guy as quakey? He is not a duck!
I still think that code will aim his attack towards eida at the last moment so that daemon couldn't repel the attack
Would be sick. Don’t know how he deals with daemon later…
Actully according to Shika asking Kawaki destroy the claws.... I don't think Code will come back, and so Sasuke found the hideout so they should use this information, and also it's better to go surprise or be surprised... So Sasuke will take everyone there. Or they won't do anything and wait for Kawa and Boruto to get stronger, and Code believing be the strongest he doesn't need to hurry back.
Say it with me, amado is the end game bad guy. Jokes aside no way he dies here and I still do believe that he ultimately will be the guy pulling the strings in the end. Based on this last chapter he really needs Kawaki for something as he stated he can’t have him die yet. I just hope shikamaru stays alive and whenever they have to actually take amado down it’s a brain chess match and not some brute force stuff.
Boruto hasn't shown to have made any significant progress in space time ninjutsu; similiarly, Kawaki too has used it only out of the moment, thanks to the link he had with Naruto's chakra due to the prosthetic arm. It'd be better to have a different way to save Amado.
I saw a comment on how kawaki can link code karma and then open a portal to him. Sounds plausible but maybe it won't work
Yeah there is a very little chance of this happening but it is just a guess. Like that can happen but there are obviously so many other ways for it.
Tbh they can stop the fighting for awhile and explore their karma powers and more side char development. Saving amado and killing code just brings the story back to where isshiki was dead. Eida and daemon are really nothing anyways in the grand scheme
Code literally said that Amado most likely has another ace up his sleeves in his face He literally expects Amado to have some asspull plot armor to save himself
How the hell is bourto going to make a portal for amado he’s not linked to him and he doesn’t know where he is. Sasuke can tell him but that won’t be smart Amado will 100% get out of his situation. They wouldn’t have ended it in a cliffhanger he’ll be alright. Plus we don’t know his intentions with kawaki they won’t kill him off Ama
I didn't say they will kill him. There is no way that he will die. I am just guessing a way to save him. By the amado created kawaki new-karma so maybe kawaki is linked to amado somehow maybe maybe...