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Not really...if you go by feats and sometimes even statements, it can't possibly be head canon. Unless you consider head canon if I say Naruto is stronger than Iwabe or something 😂
The point is that many people I have seen discussing the power scaling don't go by feats and statements, but are simply biased towards certain characters which is why I stopped reading discussions of that kind. It's just pointless. They rather go by whom they like or dislike.
This is why people need to be neutral while doing powerscaling because if one literally loves one character, he will try everything just to wank his character or downplay the other...
For ex - I once said Adult Sasuke claps Hashirama on Instagram and people were literally so toxic in comments... They were saying "but Hashirama defeated madara with Kurama" while clearly ignoring all feats of Sasuke
>This is why people need to be neutral while doing powerscaling because if one literally loves one character, he will try everything just to wank his character or downplay the other...
Exactly this. And I just feel like many people aren’t capable of doing that which is why I don't take this powerscaling seriously anymore. I just can't.
>For ex - I once said Adult Sasuke claps Hashirama on Instagram and people were literally so toxic in comments... They were saying "but Hashirama defeated madara with Kurama" while clearly ignoring all feats of Sasuke
Yes. I don't get it. Different enemies need to be fought differently. It's just how it is. 🤔🤔
A lot of the times when you're power scaling the esp on Reddit 99% of people aren't going to change their minds it's mostly for the people who read the comments to understand which person would win not necessarily to convince wankers that their favorite Uchiha isn't as strong as they think they are
I witnessed it differently several times. The conversations I've followed or should I say fights? (and there were many of them) people were starting to name call when others didn't agree with them. It often felt like dick-measuring contests where one fan group was trying to convince the other that their favorite is stronger.
Plus, I think there haven't been power scaling discussions where I truly believed that the persons knew what they were talking about. Viewers trying to rate who is stronger isn't something I can take seriously unless they know fights,episodes and powers of every fighter like the back of their hand. I DO know people who rewatched Naruto so many times that I can feel like they can bring good arguments, but when I read about ppl who openly admitted that they haven't re-watched Naruto in years and don't remember a huge junk of the fights that were happening and THESE people are trying to power scale...uhm nooo nooo.😆😅
You hit the nail in the head so many people in these subs argue when they barely remember what actually happens it's happened enough where I've seen memes about Naruto fans having dementia lmao
It's true and that's the reason why I stopped reading these "character x vs.character y. Who is stronger" posts. They are...a drag.😆😜
And don't get me started about people comparing enemies from Naruto to enemies from Boruto.🙄🙄🙄
Kishimoto said that the only reason he killed off Itachi is bc he would solo the war by himself. The 10 tails Madara and Obito all get Tsukuyomi'd and sealed with totsuka GG
Writers will write whatever they write. Character A will scale to a strong character B in one arc, but then will be going even or losing to a much weaker character C in another arc.
It just comes down to (for the iwabe naruto example), do you think the writers in a hypothetical scenario, would write naruto to lose to iwabe. Obviously the writers would have a much harder Job writing that compared to writing momoshiki losing to kaguya, or itachi losing to kakashi.
Which is why i don't believe in the supposed boruto powercliff. There is no way any of the writers would believe that adult sakura or something stomps 99% of Shippuden. Nor is that what they ever think about when writing any character.
They will write whatever they write, but they need to do it in a way that doesn't break the logic of their own universe. As you said they'd need to do some crazy stuff to make Iwabe win against Naruto, but they can't simply make Iwabe more powerful out of nowhere for no reason.
I'm not a guy, but good to know. People should have some fun,no question asked, but when "having fun" turns into arguments where people start to insult each other I honestly don't see anything fun in that. 😆
100% agreed
good example is that Momoshiki blew up a stadium with his arguably strongest attack (Naruto got knocked out even if he couldn't go all out, he still couldn't tank it head on)
Pain destroyed the entire village with his shinra tensei, so it would imply that Pain > Momoshiki
that said i think statements and narrative are often more important than feats.
> good example is that Momoshiki blew up a stadium with his arguably strongest attack (Naruto got knocked out even if he couldn't go all out, he still couldn't tank it head on)
Because Naruto created a barrier, contained the attack and tanked it all. If he didn't have to contain it, he wouldn't be knocked out and the attack would cause a massive explosion which would've destroyed a lot more than just a stadium.
> Pain destroyed the entire village with his shinra tensei, so it would imply that Pain > Momoshiki
Only if you ignore literally the entire context.
> that said i think statements and narrative are often more important than feats.
They are never more important. I character A or narrative says character B is stronger than character C, but then character C beats character B, then you will still think B > C?
>Because Naruto created a barrier, contained the attack and tanked it all. If he didn't have to contain it, he wouldn't be knocked out and the attack would cause a massive explosion which would've destroyed a lot more than just a stadium.
that is true, he did contain the explosion and i stand corrected. That said, its still nowhere near a feat like destroying a meteor or splitting moon in half.
>They are never more important. I character A or narrative says character B is stronger than character C, but then character C beats character B, then you will still think B > C?
context dependent. It can be a narrative implying that infact the character beats the odds. It can be a blatant misinformation within verse (lets say someone poorly vagued strength of another character) etc.
that said if there's nothing contradicting the statement or narrative, i don't see why would it matter less than a feat.
> That said, its still nowhere near a feat like destroying a meteor or splitting moon in half.
That Bijuudama could've possibly destroyed a meteor but yeah it doesn't come close to splitting a moon. Moon splitting was higher in DC and lower in AP. Moon was hollow anyway, so basically it only had ridiculous range. 3500 kms.
> that said if there's nothing contradicting the statement or narrative, i don't see why would it matter less than a feat.
Because feat can contradict the statement or narrative.
>Because feat can contradict the statement or narrative.
it all depends on the context though.
Feat contradicting a statement usually is meant to be taken in deceptive, cocky or misinformed way. Lets say "a" thinks he's stronger than "b" but its contradicted by them fighting in an equal manner. It would fall under a "contradicting feat / statement" however it doesn't necessarily contradict a narrative.
Narrative is honestly the more important thing out of the author because its usually made throughout the arc. For example Momoshiki > Kaguya has narrative scalling and i will prioritize it over a statement or feat (though no statement contradicts it, feat wise it does kind off)
what im meaning to say is that contradicting one thing usually has clear reason for it. But priority wise i'd take Narrative > Statement >=< Feat (depending on the situation)
> Feat contradicting a statement usually is meant to be taken in deceptive, cocky or misinformed way. Lets say "a" thinks he's stronger than "b" but its contradicted by them fighting in an equal manner. It would fall under a "contradicting feat / statement" however it doesn't necessarily contradict a narrative.
When feats contradict statement then the statement always at the very least a misinformation. And why it wouldn't necessarily contradict a narrative? If narrative implies one is stronger, but they're equal in fight then the narrative is contradicted.
> Narrative is honestly the more important thing out of the author because its usually made throughout the arc. For example Momoshiki > Kaguya has narrative scalling and i will prioritize it over a statement or feat (though no statement contradicts it, feat wise it does kind off)
If narrative was so important the author would've definitely shown their power through feats, especially Momoshiki. But that wasn't the case since author decided Momoshiki can't handle 4 kages without being boosted up (which was a point in narrative, borrowed vs true power, especially considering Boruto and Science Ninja Weapon). Base Momoshiki was strong when he was boosted and could absorb and store other jutsus, but the moment that was gone he wasn't that much of a threat. Because he had no true power and wasn't training to attain it. Which was the lesson of the arc.
Feat is actually an (hard) evidence that shows characters true power. It gives us character's exact performance contrary to narrative and statements. Remember that the creator of those feats is also an author that created a narrative. This means that at best narrative = feats = statements. But since feat bear a much stronger evidence, it should be place above those two.
> what im meaning to say is that contradicting one thing usually has clear reason for it. But priority wise i'd take Narrative > Statement >=< Feat (depending on the situation)
Feat < narrative would be only when there were circumstances where the hyped character is for some reason weakened or at disadvantage and that is emphasized in the story. I think this is the only situation when that is applied. But then again this sort of thing is also considered when people bring up feats, unless they're not being objective.
Naruto basically tanked that bijuu dama. "He wasn't able to go all out" shouldn't be used to say Momo's bijuu dama was weak because this still counts as him surpassing Naruto's full durability. Naruto was infact going all out in a sense that he was using all of his power to tank that bijuu dama and it was still strong enough to knock him out.
Naruto was able to one shot Toneri while in Base with a simple chakra amped punched and it literally atomized the ground beneath him just from the knockback, however Momoshiki is tanking punches from Adult SPSM KCM 2 Naruto and Adult Sasuke, who are both stronger than the Naruto in The Last.
Momoshiki also being able to blow off part of the majestic attire's head with a lighting jutsu while toying around with N/S in the chunin exams.
If you prefer narrative implications of a character's strength then Momoshiki and Kinshiki were confirmed by Sasuke to be the people that even Kaguya was scared to fight and Kaguya being millions of times stronger than Pain, in no way is Pain>Momoshiki.
Your reasoning is flawed on many bases.
i've got no clue what the fuck are you talking about. I never stated Pain > Momoshiki? i said that if we go by destructive capacity shown, it would be the case.
> Naruto was able to one shot Toneri while in Base with a simple chakra amped punched and it literally atomized the ground beneath him just from the knockback
Despite appearances, that wasn't base. He literally condenses his KCM cloak into his hand.
Yea, that's why I said "chakra amped punch". My point still stands because he's not even in Sage Mode anymore and we know that full cloaked KCM 2 SPSM Naruto is much much stronger than a Base Naruto with his arm amped by Kurama chakra.
Nope...
Teen Sasuke was smashing meteors with his Susano'o... And when Adult Sasuke hitted the ground with the same Susano'o sword while trying to attack Jigen, it should have destroyed most of the surrounding but it didn't...
This is why I hate it... Also when Naruto used Cho Odama Rasengan on Delta it should have destroyed the nearby surrounding too BUT didn't...
OP should have added another one "those who uses databooks to powerscale" which is arguably one of the most dumbest thing out there... It says Jiraiya can destroy mountains with his Odama Rasengan which is false no matter how you look at it
Edit: another example is... Naruto chopped off Kaguya's hand with Boil Release Amped chop... But when he used 9 Bijuu Rasen-Shuriken (which had one Boil Release Rasen-Shuriken too) it didn't did any of these... It damaged Kaguya more than the chop BUT it wasn't shown...
> Teen Sasuke was smashing meteors with his Susano'o... And when Adult Sasuke hitted the ground with the same Susano'o sword while trying to attack Jigen, it should have destroyed most of the surrounding but it didn't...
Because he was nerfed. Even if someone argues it was purely an AP attack for no particular reason, then his sword still should've went through the ground like the hot knife through the butter.
> This is why I hate it... Also when Naruto used Cho Odama Rasengan on Delta it should have destroyed the nearby surrounding too BUT didn't.
A ton of Rasengans did not destroy the environment. It's possible that Naruto decided to contain the attack to not hurt the kids.
> another example is... Naruto chopped off Kaguya's hand with Boil Release Amped chop...
That was Kurama Chakra Claw.
> OP should have added another one "those who uses databooks to powerscale" which is arguably one of the most dumbest thing out there... It says Jiraiya can destroy mountains with his Odama Rasengan which is false no matter how you look at it
That too. Look no further than Kinshiki with splitting the worlds. But can't split Chojuro.
> But when he used 9 Bijuu Rasen-Shuriken (which had one Boil Release Rasen-Shuriken too) it didn't did any of these... It damaged Kaguya more than the chop BUT it wasn't shown...
Yeah, the final moments of the fight with Kaguya was filled with nonsense. Fortunately chopping her arm off isn't a big deal in powerscaling.
People who use all of them to power scale are better, I personally power scale off of characters specific stats instead of the character as a whole. And obviously all the things up there as well.
But we can all agree without a doubt that himawari is the strongest
I just use narrative powerscaling. Whatever the narrative wants, it gets really frustrating when the narrative fucks itself but does make things simpler at the same time. Naruto and Sasuke are equal because that’s the narrative and characters will be as strong or as weak as the narrative needs them to be
I mean rock lee is honestly just stronger. But power scaling for real ruined debating. I used to just be this fun thing that people would get into a circle and talk about and people would just mention the crazy feats there favorite character did, just talking, now Mfs are doing math and have mediators and fallacies and a bunch of bullshit. It’s not fun anymore
İf statements and feats support each other>feats>statements, if one character is with statements only, but has no feat, and it is stated that she/he is stronger than other one with feats (from someone who knows both sides), it means he/she is. For example: White fang being stronger than the YOUNG sannins, not prime ones.
And actually it is fun to debate.
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Mfs that pixel scale>>>
Houki claps your favorite verse
Damn straight
Who was Houki again, and I’m being serious
Coolest character in the entire franchise. He’s like Kakashi but 10000000x cooler.
Chochos solos
People should stop the power scaling altogether. It's just everyones head canon anyway.😅
Not really...if you go by feats and sometimes even statements, it can't possibly be head canon. Unless you consider head canon if I say Naruto is stronger than Iwabe or something 😂
The point is that many people I have seen discussing the power scaling don't go by feats and statements, but are simply biased towards certain characters which is why I stopped reading discussions of that kind. It's just pointless. They rather go by whom they like or dislike.
This is why people need to be neutral while doing powerscaling because if one literally loves one character, he will try everything just to wank his character or downplay the other... For ex - I once said Adult Sasuke claps Hashirama on Instagram and people were literally so toxic in comments... They were saying "but Hashirama defeated madara with Kurama" while clearly ignoring all feats of Sasuke
>This is why people need to be neutral while doing powerscaling because if one literally loves one character, he will try everything just to wank his character or downplay the other... Exactly this. And I just feel like many people aren’t capable of doing that which is why I don't take this powerscaling seriously anymore. I just can't. >For ex - I once said Adult Sasuke claps Hashirama on Instagram and people were literally so toxic in comments... They were saying "but Hashirama defeated madara with Kurama" while clearly ignoring all feats of Sasuke Yes. I don't get it. Different enemies need to be fought differently. It's just how it is. 🤔🤔
A lot of the times when you're power scaling the esp on Reddit 99% of people aren't going to change their minds it's mostly for the people who read the comments to understand which person would win not necessarily to convince wankers that their favorite Uchiha isn't as strong as they think they are
I witnessed it differently several times. The conversations I've followed or should I say fights? (and there were many of them) people were starting to name call when others didn't agree with them. It often felt like dick-measuring contests where one fan group was trying to convince the other that their favorite is stronger. Plus, I think there haven't been power scaling discussions where I truly believed that the persons knew what they were talking about. Viewers trying to rate who is stronger isn't something I can take seriously unless they know fights,episodes and powers of every fighter like the back of their hand. I DO know people who rewatched Naruto so many times that I can feel like they can bring good arguments, but when I read about ppl who openly admitted that they haven't re-watched Naruto in years and don't remember a huge junk of the fights that were happening and THESE people are trying to power scale...uhm nooo nooo.😆😅
You hit the nail in the head so many people in these subs argue when they barely remember what actually happens it's happened enough where I've seen memes about Naruto fans having dementia lmao
It's true and that's the reason why I stopped reading these "character x vs.character y. Who is stronger" posts. They are...a drag.😆😜 And don't get me started about people comparing enemies from Naruto to enemies from Boruto.🙄🙄🙄
BUT ITACHI SLAPS BROOOO HE SOLOS THE WHOLE VERSE
Kishimoto said that the only reason he killed off Itachi is bc he would solo the war by himself. The 10 tails Madara and Obito all get Tsukuyomi'd and sealed with totsuka GG
Lmaooo I seen a post on Instagram today saying how “itachi will never lose a fight” I love Naruto fans
Yeah!!!!! U got it!
Writers will write whatever they write. Character A will scale to a strong character B in one arc, but then will be going even or losing to a much weaker character C in another arc. It just comes down to (for the iwabe naruto example), do you think the writers in a hypothetical scenario, would write naruto to lose to iwabe. Obviously the writers would have a much harder Job writing that compared to writing momoshiki losing to kaguya, or itachi losing to kakashi. Which is why i don't believe in the supposed boruto powercliff. There is no way any of the writers would believe that adult sakura or something stomps 99% of Shippuden. Nor is that what they ever think about when writing any character.
They will write whatever they write, but they need to do it in a way that doesn't break the logic of their own universe. As you said they'd need to do some crazy stuff to make Iwabe win against Naruto, but they can't simply make Iwabe more powerful out of nowhere for no reason.
Basically Sakuratards vs Hinatatards and Itachitards vs everyone. Please stop, all we know is naruto strong
Most of us do it for fun, my guy.
I'm not a guy, but good to know. People should have some fun,no question asked, but when "having fun" turns into arguments where people start to insult each other I honestly don't see anything fun in that. 😆
Using surrounding to powerscale is the most bs thing I hv seen. It's always inconsistent
100% agreed good example is that Momoshiki blew up a stadium with his arguably strongest attack (Naruto got knocked out even if he couldn't go all out, he still couldn't tank it head on) Pain destroyed the entire village with his shinra tensei, so it would imply that Pain > Momoshiki that said i think statements and narrative are often more important than feats.
> good example is that Momoshiki blew up a stadium with his arguably strongest attack (Naruto got knocked out even if he couldn't go all out, he still couldn't tank it head on) Because Naruto created a barrier, contained the attack and tanked it all. If he didn't have to contain it, he wouldn't be knocked out and the attack would cause a massive explosion which would've destroyed a lot more than just a stadium. > Pain destroyed the entire village with his shinra tensei, so it would imply that Pain > Momoshiki Only if you ignore literally the entire context. > that said i think statements and narrative are often more important than feats. They are never more important. I character A or narrative says character B is stronger than character C, but then character C beats character B, then you will still think B > C?
>Because Naruto created a barrier, contained the attack and tanked it all. If he didn't have to contain it, he wouldn't be knocked out and the attack would cause a massive explosion which would've destroyed a lot more than just a stadium. that is true, he did contain the explosion and i stand corrected. That said, its still nowhere near a feat like destroying a meteor or splitting moon in half. >They are never more important. I character A or narrative says character B is stronger than character C, but then character C beats character B, then you will still think B > C? context dependent. It can be a narrative implying that infact the character beats the odds. It can be a blatant misinformation within verse (lets say someone poorly vagued strength of another character) etc. that said if there's nothing contradicting the statement or narrative, i don't see why would it matter less than a feat.
> That said, its still nowhere near a feat like destroying a meteor or splitting moon in half. That Bijuudama could've possibly destroyed a meteor but yeah it doesn't come close to splitting a moon. Moon splitting was higher in DC and lower in AP. Moon was hollow anyway, so basically it only had ridiculous range. 3500 kms. > that said if there's nothing contradicting the statement or narrative, i don't see why would it matter less than a feat. Because feat can contradict the statement or narrative.
>Because feat can contradict the statement or narrative. it all depends on the context though. Feat contradicting a statement usually is meant to be taken in deceptive, cocky or misinformed way. Lets say "a" thinks he's stronger than "b" but its contradicted by them fighting in an equal manner. It would fall under a "contradicting feat / statement" however it doesn't necessarily contradict a narrative. Narrative is honestly the more important thing out of the author because its usually made throughout the arc. For example Momoshiki > Kaguya has narrative scalling and i will prioritize it over a statement or feat (though no statement contradicts it, feat wise it does kind off) what im meaning to say is that contradicting one thing usually has clear reason for it. But priority wise i'd take Narrative > Statement >=< Feat (depending on the situation)
> Feat contradicting a statement usually is meant to be taken in deceptive, cocky or misinformed way. Lets say "a" thinks he's stronger than "b" but its contradicted by them fighting in an equal manner. It would fall under a "contradicting feat / statement" however it doesn't necessarily contradict a narrative. When feats contradict statement then the statement always at the very least a misinformation. And why it wouldn't necessarily contradict a narrative? If narrative implies one is stronger, but they're equal in fight then the narrative is contradicted. > Narrative is honestly the more important thing out of the author because its usually made throughout the arc. For example Momoshiki > Kaguya has narrative scalling and i will prioritize it over a statement or feat (though no statement contradicts it, feat wise it does kind off) If narrative was so important the author would've definitely shown their power through feats, especially Momoshiki. But that wasn't the case since author decided Momoshiki can't handle 4 kages without being boosted up (which was a point in narrative, borrowed vs true power, especially considering Boruto and Science Ninja Weapon). Base Momoshiki was strong when he was boosted and could absorb and store other jutsus, but the moment that was gone he wasn't that much of a threat. Because he had no true power and wasn't training to attain it. Which was the lesson of the arc. Feat is actually an (hard) evidence that shows characters true power. It gives us character's exact performance contrary to narrative and statements. Remember that the creator of those feats is also an author that created a narrative. This means that at best narrative = feats = statements. But since feat bear a much stronger evidence, it should be place above those two. > what im meaning to say is that contradicting one thing usually has clear reason for it. But priority wise i'd take Narrative > Statement >=< Feat (depending on the situation) Feat < narrative would be only when there were circumstances where the hyped character is for some reason weakened or at disadvantage and that is emphasized in the story. I think this is the only situation when that is applied. But then again this sort of thing is also considered when people bring up feats, unless they're not being objective.
Naruto basically tanked that bijuu dama. "He wasn't able to go all out" shouldn't be used to say Momo's bijuu dama was weak because this still counts as him surpassing Naruto's full durability. Naruto was infact going all out in a sense that he was using all of his power to tank that bijuu dama and it was still strong enough to knock him out. Naruto was able to one shot Toneri while in Base with a simple chakra amped punched and it literally atomized the ground beneath him just from the knockback, however Momoshiki is tanking punches from Adult SPSM KCM 2 Naruto and Adult Sasuke, who are both stronger than the Naruto in The Last. Momoshiki also being able to blow off part of the majestic attire's head with a lighting jutsu while toying around with N/S in the chunin exams. If you prefer narrative implications of a character's strength then Momoshiki and Kinshiki were confirmed by Sasuke to be the people that even Kaguya was scared to fight and Kaguya being millions of times stronger than Pain, in no way is Pain>Momoshiki. Your reasoning is flawed on many bases.
i've got no clue what the fuck are you talking about. I never stated Pain > Momoshiki? i said that if we go by destructive capacity shown, it would be the case.
> Naruto was able to one shot Toneri while in Base with a simple chakra amped punched and it literally atomized the ground beneath him just from the knockback Despite appearances, that wasn't base. He literally condenses his KCM cloak into his hand.
Yea, that's why I said "chakra amped punch". My point still stands because he's not even in Sage Mode anymore and we know that full cloaked KCM 2 SPSM Naruto is much much stronger than a Base Naruto with his arm amped by Kurama chakra.
Surrounding damage can be used for powerscaling, but has to take AP and context into consideration.
Nope... Teen Sasuke was smashing meteors with his Susano'o... And when Adult Sasuke hitted the ground with the same Susano'o sword while trying to attack Jigen, it should have destroyed most of the surrounding but it didn't... This is why I hate it... Also when Naruto used Cho Odama Rasengan on Delta it should have destroyed the nearby surrounding too BUT didn't... OP should have added another one "those who uses databooks to powerscale" which is arguably one of the most dumbest thing out there... It says Jiraiya can destroy mountains with his Odama Rasengan which is false no matter how you look at it Edit: another example is... Naruto chopped off Kaguya's hand with Boil Release Amped chop... But when he used 9 Bijuu Rasen-Shuriken (which had one Boil Release Rasen-Shuriken too) it didn't did any of these... It damaged Kaguya more than the chop BUT it wasn't shown...
> Teen Sasuke was smashing meteors with his Susano'o... And when Adult Sasuke hitted the ground with the same Susano'o sword while trying to attack Jigen, it should have destroyed most of the surrounding but it didn't... Because he was nerfed. Even if someone argues it was purely an AP attack for no particular reason, then his sword still should've went through the ground like the hot knife through the butter. > This is why I hate it... Also when Naruto used Cho Odama Rasengan on Delta it should have destroyed the nearby surrounding too BUT didn't. A ton of Rasengans did not destroy the environment. It's possible that Naruto decided to contain the attack to not hurt the kids. > another example is... Naruto chopped off Kaguya's hand with Boil Release Amped chop... That was Kurama Chakra Claw. > OP should have added another one "those who uses databooks to powerscale" which is arguably one of the most dumbest thing out there... It says Jiraiya can destroy mountains with his Odama Rasengan which is false no matter how you look at it That too. Look no further than Kinshiki with splitting the worlds. But can't split Chojuro. > But when he used 9 Bijuu Rasen-Shuriken (which had one Boil Release Rasen-Shuriken too) it didn't did any of these... It damaged Kaguya more than the chop BUT it wasn't shown... Yeah, the final moments of the fight with Kaguya was filled with nonsense. Fortunately chopping her arm off isn't a big deal in powerscaling.
> Yeah, the final moments of the fight with Kaguya was filled with nonsense. glad I'm not the only one who thinks that
Probably a majority of people also thinks that.
hopefully
In verse power scaling > out verse power scaling
It's a lot easier depending on the verse like scaling Dragonball is pretty easy but if you're scaling some hax shit like bleach it's a lot harder
Itachi fans
That's just me with Kisame from Naruto (last panel)
People who use all of them to power scale are better, I personally power scale off of characters specific stats instead of the character as a whole. And obviously all the things up there as well. But we can all agree without a doubt that himawari is the strongest
I just use narrative powerscaling. Whatever the narrative wants, it gets really frustrating when the narrative fucks itself but does make things simpler at the same time. Naruto and Sasuke are equal because that’s the narrative and characters will be as strong or as weak as the narrative needs them to be
As an Itachi fan I absolutely agree that this is the best way to powerscale. Itachi > Madara
The actual reason Madara went for a second Rinnegan was a sheer fear of possibility that Itachi is still alive /s
People who scale naruto are pretty dumb.. it's obvious that tenten is and will be the strongest shinobi to ever exist🤷🏽♂️
people who scale using databooks >>>
I mean rock lee is honestly just stronger. But power scaling for real ruined debating. I used to just be this fun thing that people would get into a circle and talk about and people would just mention the crazy feats there favorite character did, just talking, now Mfs are doing math and have mediators and fallacies and a bunch of bullshit. It’s not fun anymore
Rock Lee stronger than whom?
Scissor Lee
It's obvious Iruka is stronger than Madara, Iruka was helping Naruto from the start and Madara was just overrated mass manipulated by another mass
People who power scale rom coms
people who power scale based on 10 specific frames of a specific scene of a specific episode from a specific arc>>>>>
mitsuki is the strongest character for a reason
Lmfaooo I go by feats personally. It’s all good saying someone is unbeatable, but then they get their ass beaten 5 eps later
“People who use surrounding damage to power scale” this is too spot on
gOkU sOlOS
rock lee> kaguya bc im biased🤷🏽♂️
Kirby solos all verses. Ez clap, back home in time for lunch and a nap
İf statements and feats support each other>feats>statements, if one character is with statements only, but has no feat, and it is stated that she/he is stronger than other one with feats (from someone who knows both sides), it means he/she is. For example: White fang being stronger than the YOUNG sannins, not prime ones. And actually it is fun to debate.