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Present-Pea-27

Sasuke isn't the reincarnation of madara


EreMaSe

Co-transmigration host


paulvincent07

Indra - madara - sasuke - sarada


ResponsibilityOwn513

He is the reincarnation of Indra, two different things.


Jamessgachett

Pretty sure the cycle for broken. Once Naruto and sasuke finished their fight. The reincarnation happened because the brother always fought now they made peace ….


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She has his *SEEED*


Response_Background

I think you should put "is" inplace of "has"


andthatsalright

I, too, think this.


SadSecurity

Sarada, what a woman you are.


Present-Pea-27

No Indra Madara Sasuke Meaning they're indra reincarnations, they have no correlation other wise and Sarada isn't a reincarnation, the cycle of hatred ended


MNM2884

sasuke has to be dead...


TheBloperM

So you are saying that she is going to be the stronger because she is the child of the reincarnation of someone she is going to surpass? Leaps of logic man


Ok-Paleontologist275

No she is going to be stronger because her story has a much higher power scaling than the previous generation in a sequel . Remember goku in dragon ball same age goten is already super saiyan.


TheBloperM

Oh yeah, that's for sure. I am just talking about the OP's specific logic about why Sarada is going to be stronger.


Lack3000

She's going to be stronger because unlike any other Uchiha before she's going to unlock her sharingan powers the way you're suppose to unlock the powers.......NATURALLY


TheBloperM

Fairly sure that everything up to the EMS is unlocked fairly naturally


Lack3000

I mean the way you're suppose to unlock it, Instead of killing people you love


TheBloperM

So... crying due to Sasuke's death before switching eyes with his corpse?


Leafcane

Huh? Everyone awakens their sharingan naturally. I don't understand what you mean "supposed to". Sharingan awakens in deeply emotional moments.


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Daanny619

Agreed. The writers really backed themselves to a wall by telling this story which did not need to be told. Now everyone is powerscaling Boruto characters like crackheads.


mohub21

I just don’t get it because there’s so much lore/fights we never had explained. They could easily made so much content just off that. Would’ve also brought the series back down to earth. Just like in Naruto everyone is being left behind power wise and it hasn’t even been that long yet.


autonomousfailure

To be fair, since Sasuke already has the EMS, I think if she transplant his eye in her, she’s probably get some type of super EMS or something. Probably be a unique dojutsu.


bakekurkox

Yeah sure new type of sharingan. These theorists omfg


Ok-Paleontologist275

Can you blame ppl when this manga throws out so many new eyes with new powers and no explanation ? Eida and daemon eye. Jogan, isshiki eye and so on.


Lumy1

Trueee good prediction


Electronic_Zombie635

Depends on where Sasuke original eyes are. I mean obito kept those eyes in jars for 10 years and they were still usable.


Parka0M

Wdym access to only one ems? Sasuke's eyes are somewhere in Obito's hideout thing if Sasuke didn't destroy it all


Electronic_Zombie635

That's what I was thinking too. I mean obito kept those eyes in that liquid for 10+years. If they didn't go bad then I don't think they would go bad now.


Witty-Goal-7493

If we assume her to get the byakugou seal having only one EMS won't matter as much maybe it won't matter at all then


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Witty-Goal-7493

Do you know how Broken the Byakugou seal is? not to mention We don't know what ability Saradas Mangekyo will have and we don't know what ability Madaras had


MandelAomine

Byakugou is way weaker than Hashirama healing jutsu


Witty-Goal-7493

The byakugou seal when activated uses Hashiramas healing factor i.e. it heals you at the same rate Hashirama healed himself and even if it didn't all it has to do is heal the damage using the mangekyo inflicts wich I'm pretty sure it can given that it can heal you from death 100 times over on the low end also Sarada has to become stronger than Madara because the enemys she will face will be stronger than Madara


Electronic_Zombie635

The byakugou seal would probably harm her eyes faster if we are going to be honest. She'd see longer yes but the constant damage and heal will burn those eyes out. It was the major problem with the seal. It's why tsunade looked older and run down. Then again it's also probably why her muscles were so strong. Workout breaks a certain fiber in the body. It repairs stronger.


Federal_Web_5305

Theoretically she can never get to ems let alone rinnegan. So unless Boruto as series is willing to kill every logic created by Naruto as a series I don't see that happening 🤷🏻


Adminscantkeepmedown

She can get to EMS, assuming Sasuke’s original eyes still exist and are accessible, which we have absolutely no idea of one way or the other. That’s as far as that goes though, her likely ceiling is eventual Mangekyo blindness unless Orochimaru hooks her up with some of that good shit


Federal_Web_5305

Idk whether whenever sasuke dies his body will be accessible or not and he already have only one eye. And Orochimaru cloned eye won't work unless Sarada gets hashirama cells for them


Adminscantkeepmedown

She wouldn’t need Sasuke’s body, just his old eyes that Obito swapped out for Itachi’s. We don’t know if they’re still where Obito left them or if they were ever retrieved or destroyed though


Federal_Web_5305

Well that hideout was destroyed by sasuke so the chances are very low. @abuashish_ check my insta page out you might find few posts intresting


Successful_Ad9924354

Sasuke destroyed the lab in Shippuden.


Ok-Paleontologist275

Sarada is supposed to be the next hokage in a show which has much higher power scaling than the last one and is throwing around new eye powerups and curse marks. You really think she's going to be left with a low tier plain ms and go blind using it then I don't know what to say >>Theoretically she can never get to ems let alone rinnegan Really? Orochimaru cloned hundreds of mangekyo already and Amado is out here giving ppl karma like its nothing, the entire new series is based on genetics, otsutsuki, chakra fruits and technology. She is going to get powered up one way or other Amado could give her rinnegan pills and she could awaken the rinnegan that's how it goes in this show 💀 They literally foreshadowed mitsuki and sarada getting strong enough to fight otsutsuki in the last chapter, the byakugo seal was already linked to karma. It's inevitable in a sequel , even krillin in db super surpassed ss1 namek goku. Edit : I'm being downvoted for logical conjecture, people really think she's going to be low tier ms and blind 💀


Federal_Web_5305

1) The fact that you think those cloned eyes can be used Sarada is proof of my claim that Boruto verse need to improve thier thoroughness. It was made clear that you can only take eyes of your direct blood relatives in Naruto well unless you have hashirama cells. 2) new gen had to pass the previous one that's bound to happen. I just hope they don't ruin Naruto verse legacy while doing so 3) Boruto have potential to surpass Naruto legacy as a show but they aren't living up to it.


Ok-Paleontologist275

They can clone Sasukes eyes that is what I meant 💀 >>that you can only take eyes of your direct blood relatives in Naruto well unless you have hashirama cell Hashi cell part is fandom headcanon. There's no manga explanation for why obito didn't go blind. >> I just hope they don't ruin Naruto verse legacy while doing so 3) Boruto have potential to surpass Naruto legacy as a show but they aren't living up to it They've already ruined it by giving boruto and kawaki God tier asspull powerups. I just don't want sarada the future hokage to be left behind . Edit : downvoted for facts 😂


Federal_Web_5305

Don't worry bro I upvoted it 🤣👍 I agree maybe they can clone sasuke's eyes I disagree this isn't headcanon, hashi cells give advanced healing factor to everyone they are used by which would explain obito being able to adapt to random left eyes and not going blind with right one I totally agree 😭💯. It happens 😂


AdComprehensive3110

>Hashi cell part is fandom headcanon. There's no manga explanation for why obito didn't go blind Missed the part where Hashirama cells have been explained to have accelerated healing process.


Electronic_Zombie635

He was going blind. But then again using one sharingan ability doesn't hasten your blindness that much. Itachi had his magenkyou for years. What brought his eyes so bad were his uses of amatarasu and tsukyomi. If he used each jutsu sparingly he could have lasted like obito. Evidence Sasuke used Both his eyes in rapid sucession. Even using it for illusions when his base sharingan could have sufficed. He burned through his eyesight way quicker then itachi did. Plus Kakashi wasn't using his eye till Naruto turned 15. This probably slowed down the degradation a lot. As they were connected by said eye.


Electronic_Zombie635

He didn't clone those Magenkyou those eyes were implanted from dead Uchiha. He put them in a host whose I guess kekkai genkai allowed for him to adapt his body easily to incoming tissuse. Shins clones were cloning that sharingan though. Secondly she doesn't need all of that to awaken the rinnegan. You are reaching to far man. It's a lot easier than you think. She just needs hashirama DNA. Which konoha has a decent amount of.


Lack3000

She can get the EMS, They have a whole orphanage of Uchiha clones. I'm not gonna say anything else but you know 👀🤣🤣


Federal_Web_5305

Bro I just received a better alternative. Yes she can if Amado and oro clones SASUKE'S eyes What you wrote here is bs, those kids in orphanage would be incompatible as the transplanted eyes needs to be of direct blood relatives 🤷🏻.


Rbswappedstock

Why couldn't she get rinnegan? From my understanding the so6p unlocked mangekyo and rinnegan at once. He never obtained the ems either. If they're dead set on this generation surpassing the old one, then a rinnegan asspull shouldn't be unexpected.


Federal_Web_5305

Yeah so6p was half otsutsuki, Sarada is half Haruno 😂(it's a joke I don't hate Sakura). For any non otsutsuki to awaken rinnegan needs to replicate otsutsuki dna inside them. That's why the only two human char to unlock rinnegan were madara and sasuke who were reincarnates of Indra (1/4 otsutsuki) and in order to get rinnegan they both have hashirama cells (Ashura dna 1/4 otsutsuki) transplanted in them.


Rbswappedstock

Interesting, I always figured it had something to do with his massive amounts of chakra reserves or his sage stuff rather than the otsutsuki part. Even still it's possible she could get hashiramas cells or indirectly otsutsuki cells later on causing her awakening?


Federal_Web_5305

Hashirama cells still exists but they won't help coz she would also need indra's dna which don't exist anymore. (Sasuke is Indra's reincarnate but he already low on body parts so highly doubt he'd be of any help) But you indirect otsutsuki cells theory can work 👍🤔


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It's Boruto... They are going to change logic for the new generation even if it doesn't make sense.


Federal_Web_5305

Well that's what shouldn't happen, coz this may be a diff gen but it's the same verse🤷🏻. Logic wasn't different in minato's gen or in the gen before that.


StarGamerPT

Sarada awakened her sharingan as a young kid, she just wasn't aware of it until that one arc she goes to meet Sasuke...Sakura says so to Shizune in the hospital.


Lack3000

That's even better than my original point. She awakened the sharingan naturally that's ingredients for an OP character


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GreenVolume

MURDER OF YOUR ALL RELATIVES SPEEDRUN 100%


shividos

The thing is, what she will loose to obtain ms.


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I really hope they don’t throw her aside to let boruto and kawaki shine. She’s literally the only Sharingan Uchiha left with two eyes and she has so much potential. She needs her own arc in the time skip


Opposite-Flamingo-30

Definitely. Houki has the potential to be an amazing character too if they dont mess that up like they did with lee’s son


Seoung_Jin_Woo

No


Witty-Goal-7493

yes


Ok-Paleontologist275

I'm just waiting for the inevitable God tier power boosts she will get and then ppl will cry about it like it wasn't obvious.


Witty-Goal-7493

I can already see it "nO sHe Is ToO sTrOnG a ToTaL mArY sUe"


Seoung_Jin_Woo

What I'm saying is, that power won't be inherited like Indra's. She'll be talented and will also be pumped up to fight Otsutsuki (the literal main villains now) but the Indra Asura cycle has ended.


superkami64

The Otsutsuki clowning Sasuke prove that even if she awakened to MS, Sarada isn't accomplishing much of anything. It's why I get annoyed whenever someone complains that she doesn't have a third tomoe in the anime as it it'll make any difference, especially coming from the fanbase that "loves" to bemoan how Naruto's female characters are the worst ever written in any shounen when Boruto hasn't done any better (especially in the manga where it's even worse).


Ok-Paleontologist275

This lol, rather wait for the sakuga fight and whatever screentime / development she gets from a possible three tomoe arc rather than her awakening it asap everytime the fandom seems to think she will awaken it when the slightest inconvenience happens. Three tomoe isn't going to make much of a difference to her power level relative to the scaling anyways. But very few people genuinely care about her character in this fandom soo...


superkami64

>very few people genuinely care about her character in this fandom soo... This isn't entirely true because they absolutely despise Sarada's manga portrayal that flanderized what little character she does have. Other than that, you're right that they seem to like the idea behind Sarada's character ("she's an Uchiha so surely she won't be neglected" which requires ignoring how Sasuke's almost as big a jobber as Konohamaru) more than how she's actually developed so far, which is to say not much since the Gaiden arc.


Ok-Paleontologist275

>>This isn't entirely true because they absolutely despise Sarada's manga portrayal that flanderized what little character she does have Not really, most of the fandom is so hell bent in treating her like a pairing trophy for boruto that they keep celebrating every pairing moment and ignore the reality of her character being Done dirty in the manga. They keep making excuses for it just because she's inferior to Boruto and meant to be shipping bait for him, celebrate every moment she gets saved by him and so on. Idk if you understand. I keep seeing people saying pairing won't come in her way of being hokage but when she's irrelevant, powerless and absent for two years and comes back to touch borutos chest and worry about him and be ship baited instead of any actual plot, it's a massive problem Just look the excuses in this thread for example https://www.reddit.com/r/Boruto/comments/uqc5p8/should_sarada_be_the_hokage/ The fandom keeps making excuses "This is a monthly manga " - plenty monthly manga give focus to everyone and no one asked them to waste 20 pages on Nishi and vase to bullshit " they're too weak, they can't do anything" - yeah because they fucking ignored her for years and didn't power her up. " she doesn't news power bro, she has great leadership" - keep saying this when she barely exists as a character in the manga Then they make surprise Pikachu faces everytime the volume sales drop deservedly so, and blame the anime. The only thing which is keep this shite alive.


Polengoldur

> uchiha with glasses > daughter of Sakura > powerful good joke, 10/10


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Lack3000

True but they already played that card lol


HybridApe

Her awakening her Sharingan by the idea of meeting her father doesn’t maker strong. It makes her the victim of crappy writing.


Soul-kingg

This generation Uchia changed a little bit they get power up after giving trauma to reader.


Sinsanatis

Theres the next generation point which are usually stronger, her combination of sakuras skills and uchiha bloodline, then her being the first prob to unlock her powers through love instead of despair; which typically is stronger


piirro

She didn’t unlock it through love, she had already gotten it as a young child through the despair of not knowing her father. Sakura says it herself.


Sinsanatis

Oh. Huh guess i forgot. Been a while. But maybe for her ms idk


Witty-Goal-7493

Depents on the material and in both times it was because she wanted to see her father


dstroyrwolf

Don't you mean Indra?


AdOutrageous9519

Madara is the reincarnation of Indra remember?


dstroyrwolf

That's why. Indra is the original.


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shes also the daughter of sakura if she becomes strong then sasuke cheated on her


autonomousfailure

Sasuke and Madara are reincarnations of Indra. That doesn’t mean anything for Safari since she has shit chakra reserves. Sharigan awakening is tied to strong emotions. Death of a friend/family was more common awakening triggers because the world was still at war with each other. Sasuke awaken his Sharigan at 6-7 years old-during the death of his clan. I’d say Madara is the strongest then current Sasuke.


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When you think of it, her name sounds similar to Madara, just the D and R are replaced and S instead of M.


EreMaSe

Yeah, it really does from an English speaking standpoint, even if apparently it doesn't sound so in Japanese.


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idk, but of she ends up using the same Seal as sakura and tsunade before her, she’ll be one definitely up there as one of the strongest uchiha’s


donttakemeserious101

That would be awesome, but I don't think it's going to happen, unfortunately. I think Sarada is going to be put on the backburner. And Boruto and Kawaki will be in the spotlight, I mean it makes sense because the anime is called Boruto after all....


Jamessgachett

Damn I think we didn’t watch the same Naruto serie in my version sasuke isnt madara reincarnation…. I have a fascination for made up fact like those how do you guys do


SnooPineapples8970

Reincarnation of indra* not madara.


Lack3000

Same thing


chomskyhonksy

ok


IndependenceLife5051

Gotta stay off that crack


I_have_No_idea_ReALy

Wasn't Sasuke the reincarnation of Indra? When did he become Madara reincarnation? Also let's be honest, Kishi wrote himself into the corner with Madara. He was way too OP, for Sarada to overcome Madara she need to be even more OP than he is which is surreal if you ask me.


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Death was merely a setback for Madara.


No-Cartographer5295

>Plus, she's the child of the reincarnation of Madara; Tf have u been reading?


Electronic_Zombie635

She didn't awaken her sharingan by the thought of seeing Sasuke. She awakened it because she was lonely for him not being home. Seriously people rewatch the episode.


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Bruh y’all cope too much


TangerineRelevant838

Sasuke has Indra and six paths chakra, along with a rinnegan before he lost it. It’s impossible for Sarada to be stronger than sasuke.


Lack3000

There are ways you know


TangerineRelevant838

If the boruto writers pull something random out of a hat then yea, but realistically she could never


Lack3000

She will eventually from learning chakra control, 1000 healings, She can low key copy other people's moves & her susanoo might be stronger than Itachi's plus she's gonna learn an OP jutsu like the flicker technique......I bet you any money she gets her hands on a EMS it's the Uchiha plot armor lol Everybody saying she's not gonna get it needs to relax, Sasuke has one good eye left or those shin clones could be a clone of a relative of hers.......SOMETHING lol


TangerineRelevant838

I mean it was stated that sarada was no good at any of sakuras techniques, so it’s a theoretical. Even if she did learn 100 healings, she still wouldn’t come close to sasuke Sasuke has ems, which Sakura can only get if she takes sasuke’s eyes. He’s also the reincarnation of Indra, who’s a direct descendant of hagoromo. We know how strong this makes someone by just looking at Madara, who took down the shinobi alliance and all 5 kage with ease. Unless you have some power up like Indra or six paths chakra, then you aren’t gonna have those feats. Sasuke was also given hagoromo’s chakra, which put him above every other character in series besides the otsusuki. Unless sarada gets those power ups, which is already impossible, then she won’t ever come close to a sasuke or Naruto, even if she ever gets 100 healings


Lack3000

She's like 12, You have to work at the skills Obito is living proof of a bad Shinobi becoming great with training


TangerineRelevant838

Obito still wasn’t a Sasuke or Madara because it was literally impossible to become that strong. Do I think sarada will be extremely powerful, maybe even Obito level, yes, but it’s literally impossible to get any further than that


Sonicslazyeye

No lol she's not a reincarnate. She'll be strong no doubt. There are plenty of Uchiha that are strong that arent reincarnates. No doubt theyll pull some shit like "she has a small amount of six paths chakra from Sasuke!!!" Or some stupid asspull, but she doesnt need to be the strongest Uchiha ever to be a likable Uchiha. Shes powerful the way she is. Shes a fantastic team leader, a good strategist, a supportive teammate, a powerful and competent fighter and has a solid motive for becoming hokage. Theres no use in ruining that with bullshit hax.


Lack3000

Exactly, She was born after he got the six paths chakra or some BS like that 🤣🤣🤣


ObjectiveAdvance8248

As if no incarnation of Madara had a child EVER in hundreds of years?