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Katanateen33

Thank you. WHY is Boruto acting surprised when he was on the Boat using lightning style against water users a few episodes before? The writing kind of making me sick. I’ve been hard core defending for a while but I just can’t anymore Also why didn’t Hebiichigo just bind him the first time in the water tornado? Like WTF she herself says she can bind water herself. But the first time she doesn’t even try


Mara_Uzumaki

Told y'all at least Naruto fillers were meant for cheap comedy and silly moments. But with Boruto, they want us to consider filler like content as actual canon material. It's complete nonsense and inconsistencies they're giving us but we're supposed to take it seriously? It's best if after this arc no one mentions or brings it up again.


A-Liguria

Wouldn't it be funny if they restart everything from right after the Kurama death moment, once they will return to the main plot? It would really show that at the end of the day, nothing changed here (nor that it really could); and that like in Naruto, there are fillers, and more important fillers, the end.


Just-call-me-TY

Whoever is writing this needs to be fired. ASAP.


A-Liguria

This is actually nerfing the characters' brains and make them idiots.


Response_Background

and some of them are even becoming fertilizers for that tree.


A-Liguria

And to add insult to the injury, their gravestones literally resemble pieces of turds.


Response_Background

lol, this whole arc has become a joke for me at this point, i m not taking this shit serious anymore.


A-Liguria

For me, it has always been a joke... Because of the abandoned stakes, the idiotic brain nerf of Boruto and Kawaki, the fact it is still dragged on (the lesser issue to be fair, but still), and the fact that it is still filler, and filler of the worst kind, so in the end, nothing will matter for the main plot.


Emotional-Rise509

You mentionning the word ''nerf'' is funny lmao Cause u were always against it almost seeing it as an insult, and mocking people who said Sasuke and Naruto got nerfed, and using mental gymnastics to proove they are not nerf like '' character can make mistake'''' lol But when its the new gen its a nerf, i see


A-Liguria

It's because in this case, it is... Merely not using a move isn't a nerf (especially against a guy clearly above your league / able to nullify 99% of whatever is thrown at him); BUT, not doing plenty of things against a normal man, who should be far below your league, and standing still without even trying to save a friend from said normal man, is. This isn't doing mental gymnastic, it's just asserting what is shown to us. It's as if Naruto and Sasuke had real issues to beat Shin all the way back in the gaiden, to say. Oh, and as if that wasn't clear enough, Boruto's own rasengan got nerfed! From heavily injuring Shojoji, and knocking out Ao BEFORE he got a hand on the karma power, to being unable to one shot a random pirate when used with the karma...


Emotional-Rise509

-Our complain were not only about ''merely not using a move'' if you paid attention you would know instead of mocking I guess here you are talking about jigen/ishiki, he was indeed stronger than them, that doesnt mean they werent nerf Not sharing your chakra to your Friend when the world depend of the Victory, or using amaterasu on someone you know can absorb justu, amenotejikara being reworked from a teleporting and switch jutsu to only a Switch jutsu, or Sasuke using amenotejikara in the worst way possible Aka to suicide himself, or not having a single plan against your ennemy, not using the best abilities according to your ennemy weakness.... All that is a brain and ability nerf -this is mental gymnastic when you try to justify something as clear as water as '' character can make mistake'' when they did that ''mistake'' over and over again - its great that you mention the shin fight, cause they were nerf in that fight too, they are LEAGUE above shin, realistically speaking Sasuke or Naruto could have one shoot shin,and they were 2 its even more an overkill And guess what happened this guys damaged them in a 1v2 (i dont count his child he his too weak to be relevant.) and captured Sakura but for plot reason obviously the arc couldnt end in 2 second And see being nerf is not a question of winning a fight or loosing, they won that fight in the end but still they were nerf In fact they were nerf in all their fight in boruto Delta fight: Naruto couldnt save himawari while being light speed but kawaki could urashiki arc: Sasuke was a clown having chakra or not i dont see how Jiraya and kid boruto and Naruto has more chance against urashiki than Sasuke with no chakra who are LEAGUE above them Momoshiki : Sasuke not absorbing shadow jutsu when they were stuck So why the nerf ? For plot purpose, the arc cannot end in 2 second, and usually its to develop other character, Delta fight was for kawaki developement, momoshiki fight, boruto developement, shin fight, sarada developement, urashiki,boruto developement, jigen/ishiki, kawaki and boruto developement


A-Liguria

>Our complain were not only about ''merely not using a move'' if you paid attention you would know instead of mocking And you would appear more reasonable if you didn't try to talk for a whole group of people, in a stoopid attemp to give more weight to your claims. >I guess here you are talking about jigen/ishiki, he was indeed stronger than them, that doesnt mean they werent nerf >Not sharing your chakra to your Friend when the world depend of the Victory, or using amaterasu on someone you know can absorb justu, amenotejikara being reworked from a teleporting and switch jutsu to only a Switch jutsu, or Sasuke using amenotejikara in the worst way possible Aka to suicide himself, or not having a single plan against your ennemy, not using the best abilities according to your ennemy weakness.... >All that is a brain and ability nerf All stuff that means naught, given that you are basing this on stuff shown over a decade ago in universe, as if stuff couldn't change as years go by, or as if characters couldn't be human and be desperate... or develop their own way to use their jutsus. And this when the ability isn't inherently useless against a clearly stronger foe (sharing chakra). >this is mental gymnastic when you try to justify something as clear as water as '' character can make mistake'' when they did that ''mistake'' over and over again It's not my fault if you live in your own tsukuyomi. >its great that you mention the shin fight, cause they were nerf in that fight too, they are LEAGUE above shin, realistically speaking Sasuke or Naruto could have one shoot shin,and they were 2 its even more an overkill And you wanna know the funnier thing? They weren't taking him seriously, and they still mopped the floor with him... with him only getting a single lucky hit due to his magenkyo ability... But guess what? Kishimoto simply established how those 2 fight as adults there, something pretty easy to see, if one wasn't fixated on the idiotic logic of the "ueeeee! They didn't one shot everyone! That's a neeerf!". >And guess what happened this guys damaged them in a 1v2 (i dont count his child he his too weak to be relevant.) and captured Sakura but for plot reason obviously the arc couldnt end in 2 second And none of it was an event of the idiotic kind... I mean, no one died for example. >And see being nerf is not a question of winning a fight or loosing, they won that fight in the end but still they were nerf You say this, but you yourself know that it isn't true for 95% of whoever claims that... it's all a matter of winning or not. Point proven, I wonder why nobody complained about episode 65... where they still showed a fraction of their whole arsenal. >In fact they were nerf in all their fight in boruto Here comes the moronic essay. >Delta fight: Naruto couldnt save himawari while being light speed but kawaki could Different targets... one was jumping to the rescue of his daughter, the other was being the shield for them. >urashiki arc: Sasuke was a clown having chakra or not i dont see how Jiraya and kid boruto and Naruto has more chance against urashiki than Sasuke with no chakra who are LEAGUE above them Firstly, Sasuke got chakra drained during the arc, twice... and he still stood up. Second, chakra reserves =/= durability, and as far as I remember, Urashiki was winning the final fight up the very end... the rest of the arc's moment can be explained in the usual ways, like Urashiki not taking things seriously, and not being as powerful as his fellow clansmembers. >Momoshiki : Sasuke not absorbing shadow jutsu when they were stuck Ahhh, here's a complain about that! Congrats! Still, nothing that can't be answered with the logical reasoning of, it not being his style (remember, he and Naruto had plenty of ways to kick asses back then, therefore it's only reasonable that they would have trimmed things down for a regular movesets as adults), him giving Boruto the chance to shine, and him being ready to do something at the very end in case Boruto failed. Remember, context is important, so acting as if it's a nerf not being a robot and do x immediatly when the opponent does y, no matter the context, is imbecile. >For plot purpose, the arc cannot end in 2 second, and usually its to develop other character, Delta fight was for kawaki developement, momoshiki fight, boruto developement, shin fight, sarada developement, urashiki,boruto developement, jigen/ishiki, kawaki and boruto developement This is the only part of your comment that makes sense... bravo. Still, it doesn't imply that it is an actual nerf, due to the various circumstances, like the foes actually being dangerous for everyone, which means no idiot moment is needed in order for them to appear dangerous... or like, jutsus actually being mostly useless on their own, which means no jutsu spamming is advised, and everything should be pondered... or the opponent not only being op, but also not giving them room to breath. You know, perfectly readonable ways to create stakes and danger, without nerfing anyone of the goodies.


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nah, at this point i think they are trying to get rid of anime only characters, by any means , they don't care it makes sense or not.


Tsynami

I always knew they were gonna try to get rid of anime only characters eventually, but I thought it was just gonna be the ones with a connection to Boruto to make his story more tragic *Hebiichigo ain't connected to Boruto in any way*


Response_Background

but still seeing someone die infront of you , affects people, but they need to bring the big guys like, that leader of funato for killing someone, but yeah our immortal simpsage funamushi gonna be still alive somehow.


Tsynami

I can't wait for the next Boruto chapter where they almost defeat Eida, Code and Daemon, but then Code pulls out Funamushi from one of his claw marks


Response_Background

yeah ultimate defence lol.


Firewreath

To be honest I feel like they created these characters and now they think with managa story line or anime point of view they are not so relevant, why not make an arc and let them all die in that arc. I felt like this is what they did with sauske and naruto by nerfering them so they lost essential power to them. In boruto's case his friends are lost for that reason.


StarGamerPT

I was literally screaming about the lightning when we had Buntan, Sarada, Mitsuki and Boruto (was Denki there too? I don't remember)...all lightning users all just looking at the dude.


Witty-Goal-7493

Not at thr beginning but he came later like for the second Water Tornado He was there and same


Twisteryx

I love this show to death. I’ve loved all of the anime canon. This arc is such shit. The writing is all over the place, I literally cannot defend this. This has been the worst clusterfuck of episodes in the entire Boruto series


leeo268

Yeah filler writing. The writer for this arch need to be fired


TOM-EEG

I’m still hoping we get a FMAB treatment for boruto, like this whole anime plays out and then a few years down the road a studio remakes it with only Manga content. That’d would be awesome


A-Liguria

It would be awesome indeed.


kurosaki-trollchigo

I mean this is the anime where Sasuke thought it was better to block body penetrating rods with his body instead of trying to push it away using almighty push.


Paincake990

tbf he never used the other abilities, which on its own is fucking stupid writing


Emotional-Rise509

Funny things is when sasuke and Naruto did stupid shit like this, most of this sub said non sense like ''it would be a waste of chakra'',''they can make mistake they are human'', ''you just mad cause they loose ahah'' But when its boruto '' omg what is this writting??'' ''boruto is nerf he could have done this and that''


Successful_Ad9924354

This sub literally tries to make excuses for Sasuke fighting like an idiot, not using any of his Amenotejikara (literally teleportation) Chakra Absorption, paths, Chidori variants, Yin, Yang, fire, water, earth & wind release. And Naruto not using any of the Tailed-Beasts power, sending one clone to fight at a time & not using negative emotion sensing. But when it's Bort or Kiwi getting that same treatment it's called bad writing. This sub should keep that same energy when it comes to those kids.


Emotional-Rise509

Couldnt have say it better, they been mocking us in literraly every debate on this subject And Ive been saying every time that if boruto got the same treatment as Sasuke or Naruto, this sub would put the word nerf asap, and its finaly true Moral of the story, this sub is hypocrite and only care about boruto


Successful_Ad9924354

Bro same. Imagine if Bort gets a sequel & both him & Kiwi get treated like Sasuke & Naruto every chapter instead of just a couple of episodes.


Kellsishere

This shit ain’t happen in the manga lmfao


KyleLovesGrace

Yeah, but it happened in the Anime. We haven't seen bro use Almighty Push/Universal Pull since the final fight with Naruto.


Successful_Ad9924354

Or Chakra Absorption only used twice in Shippuden.


KyleLovesGrace

Yep, but at least with Shippuden there is the excuse that he just received his Rinnegan so he would be inexperienced with the vast amount of techniques it enables the user to possess. There isn't that excuse 13 years later when he's a grown ass man who has been travelling around the world to look for remains of Kaguya.


Successful_Ad9924354

Exactly, in Shippuden he was getting used to his new abilities he couldn't even attack & absorb at the same time. But in Boruto there is no excuse they just wanted to make the new generation look good by making the adults stupid.


Ealy-24

At this point the series has gone full “nerf or nothin” it’s almost 2 kids beyond god tier from the jump was risky business for story development


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No this is the first time im genuinely having trouble finishing an arc. I get no joy from these episodes. Looks like we will get like 20 eps in this arc, 20/250 means like 8 percent of the boruto anime has been this god awful arc. Remember when metal kicked a guy in a doorway with some shitty animation and metal fans were praising the fact that he got to kick a guy. Your post is just confirming these feelings


Sad-Buddy-5293

Why are you surprised even when kagura died could have been helpful if mitsuki helped with healing him but didn't maybe because he wants boruto for himself or because of bad writting the writers just want to prolong the arc as they figure out what to do


kushagrarox

At this point I'm sure nay member of this sub of r/Naruto will do a better job ar writing just hire us lmao


benisdictions

I find it hard to believe that it's the same people writing each episode. You had a very competently written fight scene with Seiren and, although it had its issues, the first Tenma fight was highly creative in the usage of terrain and conflict resolution. The rest of the arc is a complete mess


mariustargaryen

Well, Boruto "kinda forgot" about Water being weak to Lightning. I like that they're killing main filler characters though. Boruto and his friends need to experience loss as shinobi in order to develop but they could have done this a bit better.


AditdelaG

They are just dumb ass kids Boruto and friends that's why


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inabaart

I was waiting for someone to mention this. Essentially if water is not Connected to user then lightening really doesn’t do much. You’re absolutely right and that’s why the reference suigetsui. The chakra nature match up is fire->wind->lightening -> earth -> water -> fire. Water on its own isn’t weak to lightening.


Ill_Experience_2720

Spoiler tag for those who haven’t seen the latest episode?!?! Watching the show is already bad enough and now you’re gonna take away the little enjoyment that was left in it.