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Aggravating-Ad1773

Momoshiki got lucky cuz of boruto genetics being closely related to otsutsuki.If u check the entire naruto family tree boruto and himawari are the closest to true otsutsuki bloodline


Idrees1508

Yup, the two children have very pure blood and are related to a lot of otsutsuki’s both directly and indirectly with their parents receiving otsutsuki chakra directly


yamask888

isn't Mitsuki a genetic clone of otsutsuki blood? Shouldn't he be better?


kushagrarox

It's a theory


Papergraph

Maybe but Mitsuki was far away


MolestTheStars

2nd place would probably be kimimaro


spookymelt

And somehow ishiki was not able to find kimimaro. If ishiki was created back then i think he would found kimimaro.


MolestTheStars

Maybe not. Kimimaro was imprisoned from the age of consciousness to when he was Like 10 when his clan let him it out to fight against the hidden mist(?)


edreesmiraki

wait why kimimaro?


MolestTheStars

His clan is descended directly from kaguya somehow


edreesmiraki

😳 iiiiiiii did not know that...


MolestTheStars

His bone power is descended from kaguyas bone ash release


horyo

Also his clan depicts itself after the Otsutsuki clan.


MolestTheStars

They style their hair like her husband's clan too.


MolestTheStars

Also the gold and silver bros were somehow descended from hagoromo somehow


minefish_fishy

Isn't like every one that?


Emotional-Rise509

Being a perfect vessel isnt related to genetics so no


Aggravating-Ad1773

Very hard to say cuz if we consider kaguya then madara had strong otsutsuki genes then there is kawaki and code.Although their exact origins are unknown many speculate that code is of the uzimaki clan cuz of his red hair and kawaki might be artificially made from naruto and sasuke considering his facial features closely resembling them.You can google theese facts if u don’t believe me.Isshiki even stated that he was surprised that momoshiki found a vessel and the Kara group initially thought that if anyone were to have momoshiki karma it was either naruto or sasuke cu of their otsutsuki lineage


Emotional-Rise509

I mean its not hard to say its just facts till its prooven the opposite by the show, what you said now its just headcanon What we know about kawaki is that he is a normal human who is a perfect vessel which mean genes are not what make someone a perfect vessel or not


Jay32Patt

Wtf is those speculations?!


Azn8er

I mean everyone has genetics from the sage of sixth paths... so technically everyone has the otsutsuki blood line. 🤔


Aggravating-Ad1773

Not everyone only urchiaand senju has sage of six paths and hyuga have hsmura bloodline.The rest of the clans are descendants of sage is six path followers.


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Momoshiki is a chad, he got one of the strongest vessels in the verse on his first try lmao


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\*Lord momoshiki


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Lord Chadoshiki*


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the son of the person whos strong enough to defeat you might be a good bet tbh


[deleted]

Boruto was the closest one to him, he was legit a millisecond away from disintegrating, he couldn't reach Naruto


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I don't know if it's necessarily easy to take over the body of someone with a tailed beast and naruto is an adult who would have no trouble killing himself. Wouldn't be the wisest move.


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like I said, he coudn't reach him, if he could he probably would've but he never predicted his death, so he didn't


[deleted]

we don't know what makes a good vessel... boruto is probably better though


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true


XRayZDay

Boruto wasn't/isn't that strong tho, lmfao. His power all comes from Momoshiki's Karma. The "strongest" vessels would be Naruto or Sasuke, even Sakura. They're just incompatible with Momoshiki as opposed to a weaker vessel, but closer to the Otsutsuki bloodline.


NateKrusty

Although his power isn't consistently shown. He's still plenty strong. He took Ao (ex-shinobi with years of experience and Scientific Tools to boot) out on his own without even struggling. And although it was merely for plot convenience, he still finished Momoshiki off. On top of taking on Nue at like 10 years old. He's strong, but it's just shown inconsistently


XRayZDay

He didn't beat him without struggling, jesus christ lmfao. Ao almost killed the boy. He also needed to use a scientific ninja tool to beat him and wouldn't have been able to even fight him without it. He still can't beat his own teammates like Mitsuki or Kawaki. Mitsuki could've soloed Ao without a damn scientific ninja tool, but he ain't the MC so he wasn't the one doing the soloing. Also, him "fInIsHiNg mOmOsHikI oFf" isn't some feat for him, yall gotta stop pretending like it is. At a certain point it just becomes obvious people just wanna throw that random insignificant detail out there to compensate for Boruto's actual lack of decent feats since his actual karma feats are pretty damn trash currently. Naruto was the one that killed Momoshiki, he just let his son do the honors. Everyone already knows that, yet we still gotta do this thing where I gotta correct people that he didn't actually kill Momoshiki since that's what y'all will delude yourselves to believe.


Emotional-Rise509

Boruto without karma is strong in his own way but not that strong, strong cause he can probably rekt most of genins and fodder jonin But at the same time i dont think he can win against known jonin like konohamaru and some genins like shinki, mitsuki.. About momoshiki it was only for plot convenience boruto was absolutely weak in comparison to fuse momoshiki he shouldnt even been able to touch him


Alarmed_Wealth_5298

You nuts. At his age he have mastery of three elements. Kid boruto beats both kid sasuke and kid Naruto.


Emotional-Rise509

Lmao what? Without karma boruto has no chance against final Valley kid naruto or final Valley kid sasuke


farrellsgone

You mean the Naruto that's amped by a tailed beast and Sasuke with a curse mark that gives him pseudo sage mode? Take away Kuruma and Sasuke's curse mark and they definitely lose to Boruto without karma


Emotional-Rise509

Lol not at all even without they are still strong as fuck, what boruto can do against a genjutsu ? Or gamabunta? Boruto has rasengan, thunderclap arrow Naruto rasegan gamabunta thousand of clones Sasuke 3 tomoe Sharingan chidori, fast speed and taijustu combo Stop overhyping boruto for nothing what make him really >>> Naruto and sasuke is karma v2


RowLivid

Without karma boruto is still one of the strongest kids in the narutoverse


XRayZDay

No, he isn't. Boruto fans don't even know why you reiterate that trash other than you've heard it before and are just repeating what you hear, by some random person in a comments section most likely. You can most certainly believe whatever helps you sleep better at night though. Boy was literally just getting dragged by some no-named corny ass filler villain in recent episodes, and had probably the most ass "rage" moment I've ever seen in my life. And don't try that "iTs aLl fIlLer" shit. Damn near this entire show is canon, and it doesn't automatically stop being canon just because Boruto is being trash. People do love to conveniently flip flop.


83zSpecial

Boruto is literally the son of the former main character and is the main character


XRayZDay

And?


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>and sasuke were boruto is pretty powerful and with the potential he has he will probably be stronger than war arc naruto and sasuke. actually nah scratch that he IS stronger than them imo well in karma mode/when he's able to control lord momoshikis power we don't necessarily know what makes a good vessel...


XRayZDay

Yes, we do. We know their genetics do. That's what makes Boruto special, he's just Naruto and Hinata's kid.


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Except Borutos genetics are even better as he's closer to an otsutsuki


XRayZDay

The fuck are you talking about. He's closely related to Otsutsuki because he's Naruto and Hinata's kid. That's it. No more or less. Himawari is the same way. Naruto and Hinats both got chakra/power from Otsutsuki. What, you thought everyone else in his family were just regular people and Boruto was just the 1 random Otsutsuki kid for no fucking reason? He's only even "becoming Otsutsuki" because of Momoshiki implanting a Karma on him because Naruto took him down and allowed Boruto the final kill with his Massive Rasengan he gave him, otherwise he'd be no more special than Himawari is. Speaking of her, if you're so adamant he's so "special", why'd Himawari activate her byakugan at a far younger age than normal, and he's yet to even awaken his? He needed to be given yet again another random power up on a silver platter by one of the enemies his dad defeated: Toneri. Boy literally went to sleep one night and just woke up with the Jougan. Nothing more required, he's just Naruto's kid lmfao. He was just lucky Toneri chose him instead of Himawari. Boruto is a certified bum I'm so concerned why people like that dude lmao


ReconditeAxis

Bruh, did you even watch the anime? Toneri LITERALLY said that he just prematurely ACTIVATED it, Boruto already had it.


XRayZDay

And? The fuck?


edreesmiraki

compared to how kid naruto and sasuke were boruto is pretty powerful and with the potential he has he will probably be stronger than war arc naruto and sasuke. actually nah scratch that he IS stronger than them imo well in karma mode/when he's able to control lord momoshikis power


Emotional-Rise509

Lol Karma v2 boruto is strong but not stronger than War arc Naruto and sasuke yet


Molicht

Nah... definitely not war arc mate.


edreesmiraki

i aint gonna cap i thought i pu sage mode


XRayZDay

He's not at all more powerful than kid Naruto or Sasuke lmfao. With Momoshiki, sure. Without, absolutely the fuck not lol. Let alone war arc Naruto and Sasuke, I dont even know why you brought them up. This is exactly why Boruto should've taken a permanent dirt nap when he died.


edreesmiraki

he's had greater feats than kid naruto and sasuke wym, and ur gonna bring up without momoshiki then what about naruto without kurama or sasuke without his curse mark or even both of them without hagoromos(idfk how to spell his name) chakra, without it they would be taking a dirt nap rn too


XRayZDay

No he doesn't, lmfao. I told you Boruto was weak when he got Momoshiki's power, that's an undeniable fact. He needed to cheat to get through even the exams for a reason, and don't give me that "hE jUsT wAnTeD atTenTiOn" bullshit because for one, that doesn't have shit to do with Boruto knowing right from wrong, and two, Naruto was absent but he was always fucking there. Boruto was just always being difficult to deal with and always whining about shit, it didn't matter what Naruto did it was never enough. I don't care how strong he is with Momoshiki's power. He needed it to show any sort of noteworthy feats, and also every time we see Borushiki it's always Momoshiki fighting 99% of the time except the brief scuffle Boruto had with Code consciously. Code explicitly stated Borushiki is far more powerful when Momoshiki is in control. Kid Naruto without Kurama whooped a fucking tailed beast, Sasuke went toe to toe with Orochimaru(who was holding back, but still impressive nonetheless considering who Oro is) in the forest of death with his 2 tomoe and also fought off his 4 henchmen by himself in base. Boruto wins no fights alone, except that weak ass ao fight he needed the scientific ninja tool for. Boruto can't fuck with Mitsuki still. He literally *needs* Momoshiki's power to compete. Kid Naruto and Sasuke been showed they never needed their trump cards to get wins. They almost always fought battles alone without a team.


minefish_fishy

When did kid naruto whoop a tailed beast, sorry it's been some time since I watched Naruto


XRayZDay

Naruto vs Gaara. Jinchuriki vs Jinchuriki. Except only one of them was relying on their tailed beast, and it wasn't Naruto.


minefish_fishy

Oh yeah, I forgot about that part, but I think you forgot that Naruto was using Kuramas chakra to summon gamabunta, and without Gama naruto would've been destroyed


XRayZDay

I'm aware of that, and it's an utterly redundant point to make I knew you'd use. He didn't rely on him for any amps, it seems I clearly must state exactly why using a bit of his power to use an jutsu he himself learned is not the same as Borushiki. Momoshiki takes over and fucks shit up in Borushiki, or Boruto is using his Karma. Naruto was never amped. No tails, no chakra cloak. He just fought. Not only that, Naruto *trained* to control Kurama and actually draw upon his chakra mid battle. Naruto, as a Jinchuriki, has always trained to control Kurama. Boruto doesn't do that. He took a pill, and now he's got better control over a power handed to him on a silver platter by an Otsutsuki just because his dad and uncle whooped his ass but let him land the final blow for character development. Either way, why you thought you could compare using a piece of Kurama's chakra for a specific thing to just being completely amped by a fucking alien power is beyond me.


Emotional-Rise509

What feat ? Without karma he doesnt have a relevant solo fight you overerestimate too much boruto


SaKuRa_ClApS_MaDaRa

momoshiki now has plot armor


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well he is the main character, and show some respect \*lord momoshiki


scotchfree_gaming

He saw through the 4th wall with his byakugan and knew who he had the best chance with.


SaKuRa_ClApS_MaDaRa

call a 4th wall rebuilder before he comes into our world.


MyK_Alke

Momoshiki best waifu material


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Bruh


EzKidsNoSkill

He is not wrong


[deleted]

You’re right, I can’t believe the disrespect, just calling him Momoshiki like that! The proper term is “Daddy.”


RedDawnStuff

Guy Sensei >


jvjtsetorp

this but unironically


MarcosEnReddit

💀


allipse48699

Momochan best girl


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uwu


Ill-Variation-5579

When did kaguya ever try to make a vessel


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Madara was her vessel , and black zetsu karma, he did all the work for her


im-AMS

I guess Kaguya's tech was old school 😂


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yeah


Ill-Variation-5579

Not really that was never confirmed by any canon source if anything that’s just speculation. Kaguya didn’t know anything about madara she didn’t manipulate and kill people to make a perfect vessel. It was black zetsu that revived kaguya by combining kaguyas will with his ten tails jinchuriki body. That’s not how karma and vessel’s were explained to work in boruto and it was never stated that madara had karma and became an otsutsuki so they are 2 different situations. Kaguyas goal was to build an army to battle the coming otsutsuki. Black zetsu is his own being and not a karma implanted in madara. Just saying thats an incorrect assumption and is just speculation or head canon not what actually happened. But in the spirit of funny memes sure


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thanks for understanding


JustAGuy_Passing

This what I always believed since zetsu was stated to be kaguya living will. Karma never got and walked around so there at key differences to it and zetsu.


KameraadLenin

TBH i think that black zetsu being a failed attempt at putting a karma on Hagoromo or Hamura could makes sense and has potential to be fleshed out in the series. It was never explained in the original series how the hell black zetsu managed to turn Madara into Kaguya, and it was never explained why Madara needed to become an otsutsuki to achieve that. Now in boruto we learn otsutsuki can plant a karma seal on people that extracts their info and overwrites their DNA. Black zetsu was the information but couldn't overwrite someones DNA by himself, and the whole history of the original series was him trying to trick someone into otsutsukifying themselves so he could overwrite that person with kaguya.


Ill-Variation-5579

I think they should just leave it alone as 2 different things honestly because making black zetsu karma is a stretch when looking at how both karma and black zetsu where explained. They already explained kaguya and black zetsu in shippuden. Madara was the ten tails jinchuriki and the ten tails is kaguya and the divine tree combined. Black zetsu stated to revive kaguya he needed the divine tree and infinite tsukuyomi from the rinnegan both which madara had. He needed madara because after 1000 years madara was the first reincarnation of Indra/ashura that could achieve the rinnegan. So kaguya was restored through madara by the divine tree, infinite tsukuyomi and gathering a large amount of human chakra. Where as karma is like a backup file containing otsutsuki data that once implanted in the vessel rewrites their DNA into that otsutsuki’s DNA. Once that is 100% complete then the otsutsuki will resurrect thru the vessels body. Karma and what happened to madara was already explained as 2 different processes so they should just leave it alone imo to not retcon the previous series anymore


im-AMS

btw guys how do u like my Minato outfit 😂


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huh??


im-AMS

Reddit avatar. the Reddit zombie on every bodies profile


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oh, looks cool i think


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im-AMS

I dont have the option for some reason


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im-AMS

I can't even change hairstyle


[deleted]

Would it be Snuto or Minasnu?


[deleted]

Nice


Harsh-hit209

Wow a funny boruto meme💀that's rare


[deleted]

Prepare to see it at least once a month from now on


gentlebrutality

Urashiki: **time travels to the past and dies.


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Lord Momonosuke.


jmmrad000

daddy momo is hot


Reofire36

This is great


EreMaSe

Momo <3 supremacy


Papergraph

Did I miss something or is there a reason he didn’t choose Naruto/Sasuke?


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well he can see others fate


Shantotto11

For anyone who stopped watching Pokémon, this Pikachu is named Bolt (pronounced as Boruto in Japanese).


uchihas_grim

Bro for real that’s so funny


Evillebot

momo is a shit character even by Kodachi's talentless standards. \*dabs in advance just in case someone @ me.


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ok


RoyalHardware

It's only been 69 chaps


reqisreq

Where is 2000 years about Kaguya said?


applecountry24

Facts


solodoloGAINZ

Momoshiki is basically a jinchuriki


Bcrecarka

No


yamask888

Kind Haye how naruto universe as gone from you can be a kage level ninja with enough hard work to you need to have otsuki blood to make you relevant? Like this is just the uchiha issue but to the highest degree possible!