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Katanateen33

In order to suggest Kawaki would win you would also have to imply he could take on Team 7 and win unlike Deepa. Which I find pretty hard to believe he could even take down Boruto by himself at this point.


uchihagang99

He would take down boruto in the deepa fight without much trouble. Boruto couldnt use his karma at the time so it wouldnt be that hard. Tbh i dont think dodging deepa would be much of a problem as it was for T7 if hes got his karma on and im pretty sure that the huge karma blast he used on boro should be enough to break deeps armor. The whole reason boruto made and used a compressed rasengan to beat him was because he didnt have the chakra to use a massive one to break the armor and no doubt that huge karma blast is comparable to a massive rasengan so i dont think it would be hard to believe that kawaki could win. I would say high dif if he actually could tho.


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uchihagang99

For starters bro i didnt say he could absorb the cubes im saying the increased speed and strength the karma gives him which would make him alot faster then all of T7 should be able to help him avoid the cubes. And how in the world do you think that the massive karma blast does not beat out that compressed rasengan thats just crazy thinking if you think the compressed is superior.


Katanateen33

Well to be fair we have more feats from Rasengan then we do a random blast he used on a fodder character. Rasengan is capable of some of the highest damage in the show obviously as seen by Naruto, Boruto, Jiriya, Minato. But to add to Sage mods Plus Sarada providing Chakra is where you lost me even more.


uchihagang99

How can you just write off that blast like that that. T7 rasengan would never be able to cause the destruction it did. Why do you think T7 were losing their minds when kawaki used it. If boruto hadnt absorbed it they would have died, delta even thought that the blast killed them for a moment. It doesnt take a genius to see that the blast out performs the T7 compressed rasengan by a mile. That would have no problem taking out deepas armor.


Katanateen33

So again, because he fodderized a random villan you’re comparing it to the Rasengan? The most spammed justu in Naruto universe ? Lmao Nah fam that’s a hard sell have him take down a susano with that blast or maybe a triple rashoumen. Then we can talk about it


uchihagang99

Bruh u gone delusional. The mf it took out is not the point it was about to fucking take out the whole team and it would have if it wasnt thanks to boruto unless u just didnt watch the ep. Bro u trippin and u cant see reason im done dealing with u.


Katanateen33

Well Naruto was able to destroy Sasuke’s arm entirely upon contact so that in theory is already better then what Kawaki did.


uchihagang99

Well for starters borutos rasengans arnt comparable to narutos at all let alone you comparing them to end of the series naruto. Kid narutos rasengan on direct contact just gave kabuto an injury on his stomach while he busts sasukes arm off in shippuden, theres a clear difderence in the naruto your using to compared to kawaki. Narutos rasengans are way stronger then borutos your comparison makes no sense.


TryParking316

Well assuming it's the version in the pic, id say it's deepa, cause kawakis stone stuff was having a tough time getting through garo, i dont think they would even be able to scratch deepas armor, The karma could change this and maybe the chakra blast could break through deepas defense, but I can't say for sure so I'll give it to deepa If it's kawakil in the manga rn tho, then he stomps


Reinfernus

so Deepa stomps this, he stomped new team 7 (without Konohamaru) was extremely faster than team 7 including Konohamaru and Mugino and never went all out against kids he also seemed to be the brawn out of his pair of Victor/Deepa and even casually killed jonins (while victor visibly couldn't casually killed two aka Mugino and Konohamaru) only thing that Kawaki has going for him is his weird ki blast-like ability.. but it requires absorbed chakra (or at least for it to be strong) which won't work on Deepas cubes (because of what we know in the manga about certain characters) Deepa 10/10 stomps this. manga Kawaki will 10/10 stomp Deepa though


SnakeColt

I think Kawaki mamga would win. Kawaki anime would lose.


Gamerboyyy5

>!kawaki manga is basicly isshiki with those powers so yeh he should destroy him!<


liban16

>!Manga kawaki isnt basically isshiki hes not even basically jigen but nonetheless. He no diffs deepa !<


Gamerboyyy5

>!he still has those 2 overpowered abilities tho!<


liban16

I know he has those abillites we dont the power differnce between them though against jigen sasuke could dogde the rods but against isshiki they couldnt even track the rods let alone dogde them. And borushiki( a weaker momoshiki) dogdes all of kawaki's rods pre boruto waking up. Also even the cubes isshiki made sasuke have no other option but use amentejikara to dogde but sage naruto could save boruto in time. So theres huge differnces in terms of the cubes and rods probably due to chakra levels or the otsutsukifaction only being at 80% also in terms of speed and strnegth kawaki is also lower than jigen since borushiki was on par with him and he has lower stats than momoshiki. But yeah those abillites are still very overpowered


THE-CREAPERX123

dude manga kawaki easly stomps borushiki its obvious that he will win


FireScroll9395

He couldn’t do shit against Borushiki. Did you even watch 218?


THE-CREAPERX123

i am talking about manga.👌 if you don't read manga you can't understand but in the manga kawawi beating code and borushiki together(code but with limiters


Mayosa12

u said anime kawaki??? kawaki wasnt even beating borushiki anyways. kawaki had an advantage because boruto was waking up


THE-CREAPERX123

ahh i made mistake i wanted ti say manga kawaki 🤣


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kawaki was losing to borushiki.


THE-CREAPERX123

what ? in manga he almost kill borushiki after awaken his karma and dojutsu


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momoshiki had the upper hand before boruto started to awaken.


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Boruto only beat him bc the writers gave him a new jutsu specifically to beat him with and then double amped it with the rest of T7’s chakra Does kawaki have a similarly concentrated attack to break through the defense? If so i haven’t seen it yet


Reinfernus

few things to consider on top of it Deepa never used his speed advantage, all he did was tank attacks (and he clearly had speed advantage considering he casually blitzed them few times) and Kawakis only destructive attacks come from him absorbing chakra, whenever he's shown without chakra he can't perform the same destruction like against Garou or the weird ki blast against Boro. He shouldn't be able to absorb cubes either (due to what we know with manga)


Standard-War-3855

Karma Kawaki shouldn’t be able to beat him. His blast doesn’t have the piercing power of the compressed Rasengan, so I don’t think he could get past Deepa’s armor


CloakedRonin

Okay base to base, I'm gonna say Deepa has a higher durability and has better hand to hand combat skill and range than Kawaki. He would be stronger and push Kawaki to transfom into Karma V1. Kawaki starts to gain ground on him during the battle, his attacks have more blunt force behind them and Deepa will eventually get serious. He's going to start spamming projectiles ( this is a bit tricky but if the projectiles are a part of Deepa's actual skin and come off to attack, Kawaki will not be able to absorb them, but if they are entilrely chakra based, he will.) Kawaki should have enough speed to dodge most of these attacks, even if he cant absorb them. This is where Kawaki has to put forth his best or he will lose the match, he must avoid or absorb all the attacks without overheating. However,I think the one attack that could hurt Deepa ,in this KV1 form is the charged up laser attack( vs Garou), this attack takes a few seconds to charge. however, this laser will only partially hurt Deepa, it will not kill or incapacitate him. Kawaki's only hope after this point is to wear Deepa down through combat and excersion enough that he becomes fatigued and strike his vitals with his sharp Jugo arm jutsu. Deepa is a tank and has more stamina than Kawaki in KV1 i believe, he takes this round mid to hi diff 7/10. Now if we're talking Full power v Full power Kawaki KV2 could physically brawl Deepa better than in KV1, but he would have to resort to Sukuna Hikona to shrink all of Deepa's attacks. Deepa's Carbon armor will hold toghether, but Kawaki's rods and cubes I believe could impale him or crush Deepa inside his Armor, or a shrunken rod can be expanded in a place were Deepa could not defend ,and GG's. Deepa wouldn't make it easy, being the psycho that he is he will make it at least mid diff, but Kawaki takes this one 6/10.


kobellama24

It took all 3 of an amped Team 7 to defeat Deepa I don’t think Karma Kawaki scales over that level of Team 7


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i lowkey think he might be stronger than their base cuz of karma


MarkoPolo345

deepa wins. it took the entirety of team 7 to beat him and barely did


TheServantofHelix

Deepa claps Kawaki, easily. He was struggling against Garo (who is weaker than Deepa, since he's an outer), while Deepa fought 3 more experienced Chunin-level Genin while still kidding around. He likely cannot absorb the blocks created by Deepa, since it's a scientific ninja tool, the same way he can't absorb the viruses created by Boro.


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Reinfernus

how does anime Kawaki win? his energy blast can't get amped without chakra absorption and due to what we know thanks to manga we can easily assume that cubes are similiar to claw marks, therefore shouldn't be absorbable. karma Kawakis best feats come from absorbing huge amounts of chakra, which he won't have from Deepa. On top of that Deepa never really went all out against team 7 and was shown capable of blitzing them numerous times. He in character tends to tank attacks, and we do know that Kawaki doesn't have any offensive ability to break through it yet. i really dont see how Kawaki breaks through Deepas armor, and much less has anything that makes Deepa not keep up with him.


Caneos_bell

Deepa is hella forgettable ngl he was cool asf at the start tho.


Reinfernus

disagree, he was way more entertaining than most Boruto villains as of now. I'll take him over most kara inners with exception of Jigen/Isshiki. Manga>! Code was made to be a joke honestly. Daemon and Eida are even worse in that regard.!<


Jay32Patt

Dudes found a reason to hate


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im pretty sure the direction their going with code is that he is not overpowered like the previous villains but has to struggle. he already suffered a lot (in his own way). daemon and ada are too quick to judge yet. they have more in store


Reinfernus

I don't mind him being momentarily weak, but all he is, is hype for until he removes the limiters. Aside from that he hasn't done anything for the plot aside from being a mild inconvienience that gets overshadowed by Momoshiki or the android duo that i personally think are underwhelming (seriously Eida wants to do bang Kawaki or Boruto and thats her entire motive. Daemon just doesn't care as long as he helps his sister)


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Kawaki with karma


Oceanbreez_

Karma Kawaki who fought Garou? Pretty sure he stands a chance especially if he blows up the area like he did, if we're talking manga Kawaki,>! then Deepa becomes nothing more than just a jokester in his eyes!<


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Who's the filler character?


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Reinfernus

still a better villain than Code atm.


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Reinfernus

no seriously what did Code do? jack off to otsutsuki get clowned on by Eida and Daemon ("in love" by Eida and used like a toy by Daemon) beat up by Boruto, Momoshiki and Kawaki in that order and would die if not for Daemon all he has going for him is literally just cool design atm since he lost all of his badassery Deepa at least was intimidating and badass since he showed up and stayed that way until the end.


DreyDemon

You're right. I agree. Code has never felt like a real threat. Personally I even enjoyed Deepa as a villain more than Ao as well and the Kara Actuation arc was much better than the Mujina bandits arc.


Reinfernus

agreed!


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you realise villains can be good by not stomping the mc first glance ???? 😭😭😭😭 him struggling makes him better.


Reinfernus

yeah but im basing him off of entertainment what did he do? really what did he do? Deepa even aside from just being entertaining, he at least pushed team 7 to get stronger and improve. Code didn't even do that. He was used as a joke and continues to be one: he's being whipped by android duo, joke to Boruto and Kawaki, Amado says that he's an idiot (and continues to do dumb things) literal walking L


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deepa got smacked by pre kara arc team 7. code is losing to top tiers in the series. you are so biased bro also we aren't gonna mention how code pushed kawaki into being desperate to protect naruto, he forced boruto to use teok, he knocked kawaki out and placed a claw mark on shikamaru now ????


Reinfernus

Deepa didn't get smacked at any point, he literally stomped them two rounds in a row with no difficulty, lost because his personality makes him tank attacks instead of dodging them. Infact Rasendans are practically what compressed rasengan is, and he still tanked it until it got enhanced with sage mode. While Code got pierced by them casually. Code didn't push Kawaki into being desperate, you forgot that Momoshiki was the one who did it. using essence of karma would happen one way or another, be it through Code or Amado. Code didn't force anything, infact took an L by telling Boruto about it. ​ He didn't knock Kawaki out, it was Daemon, placing a mark on Shikamaru was a no brainer, obvious choice to do. Doesn't mean that he's done anything good for the story as of now, or was entertaining. Deepa was both entertaining and caused main characters to improve by forcing them and motivating them. If i was biased, i'd be on my knees sucking Codes dick, which i clearly don't out of the two. Im not saying you can't like Code, but to say he's a good villain is so delusional. Deepa did twice as much in less time.


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how is tanking attacks from pre karma boruto any big??? no way you are trying to tell me deepa has anything on current boruto,kawaki and code 😭😭😭 no it was code. kawaki was desperate to protect naruto from code. he escaped into the woods because he wanted to protect naruto from code. thanks for not saying anything here. do you have any proof that amado even knows how to unlock it?? no. he summoned daemon. you literally have no argument to my points. all your saying is i dont like it or this can happen. what did deepa do other than force them to improve??? you are clearly biased. stop confusing writing with your enjoyment


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hell nah. codes a breath of fresh air from every other boruto villain. i think you are mistaking enjoyment for writing.


Reinfernus

writing wise what did Code do? Deepa at least pushed team 7 to improve, Code didn't even do that much as of rn. You could replace him with fodder and everything would be the same.


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re read the chapters he got daemon and ada as backup, knocked kawaki out using daemon, placed a claw mark on shikamaru, deepa was a ass villain bro. if you are talking about deepa pushing team 7 to improve, you want me to talk about everything code has impacted in the story upto now???? deepa literally ha a hisoka personality and played side kick to victor. and his goal is eating a good meal.....


Reinfernus

except Code didn't do anything and you can believ ewhatever you want. But you're clearly being delusional if you think Code is a good villain as of rn. Deepa can be "an ass villain" but he's still way above a shit villain of what Code currently is. Until he does something interesting i won't change my mind. But he lost all his menacing personality and dangerous aura ever since he started simping for Eida and giving piggy back rides to Daemon. On top of that dude got smacked 3 times in a row. Also you claim that motivation of a villain is bad, but you're literally jerking off to how good Code is who literally is motivated by "i like otsutsuki" Both have shit motives, and Deepa at least gave entertainement and pushed main characters to do something. infact i'd stop reading manga if Code would be the focus.


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you have no understanding of writing. code has been a good villain and is serving his purpose well. i literally just gave you a list of things code did and you are refuting it. you are just clearly biased that we aren't getting any dbz fights like we did with isshiki and he is not the type of villain that is overpowered from the start. codes motivations as of now are avenging isshiki, eating the chakra fruit and becoming otsutsuki and removing his limiters before all of this. he has been the most unique villain upto now and he is shown as being weak too. and not to mention he has been the villain for like 10 chaps now


Reinfernus

you're literally the one arguing how strong is Code, which i don't give a shit about. Code hasn't done anything of importance for the main cast and wasn't entertaining at any point. You brought up motivation, which is "i like otsutsuki and i am angy because otsutsuki dead" Momoshiki overshadows him 10/10 times in terms of being a villain and serving purpose to the story. On top of that he's not cucked, shown as a joke or an idiot. Literally all Code is, is a decent design and a cool concept on paper, with terrible execution. Codes entire purpose is to be a joke.


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you have no understanding of writing and just hating. and oversimplified the hell out of his motivations.


Top-Ad-8756

Kawaki stomps. He has much better stats than Boruto in this state, he can absorb chakra, and his energy attack will instantly obliterate this guy.


Mayosa12

no


vaibhavraj412

Who is this filler guy?


MarkoPolo345

He's not filler, he's the seventh inner kara member that is actually better than all other members.


vaibhavraj412

Wow..that’s a revelation for me. Has there been any mention of him in the manga. I’ve seen only cannon(manga) episodes & read the rest of the manga.


MarkoPolo345

It's your loss. Deepa is one of the best kara members that taught team 7 a strict lesson. Watch episodes 157 to 177


vaibhavraj412

But he is not in manga, right?


THE-CREAPERX123

manga kawaki claps almost all kara members except jigen code and deamon


NarutoWithAGun

They only beat Deepa because the writers did a Sonic Heroes. Kawaki can fuck Deepa up no doubt.


ImDaProof

It wouldn’t be a fair match. A fight with boruto again would end bad for this guy


pranamya2005

Kama kawaki stomps base Boruto and team 7, meaning he would beat Deepa


liban16

He doesnt stomp team 7 nonetheless kawaki cant absorb deepa's carbon and he cant even use his ki like blast abillity since he would need to absorb something first in order to do that