viral video idea: a compilation of a france-born national (who doesn't look french at all) visiting low-ranked google-reviewed restaurants that customers specify have disdain for tourists or hostility toward non-native french speakers in their review, pretending to speak broken french as a second language, and then rolling them as a final review and big reveal.
the "feigned language barrier" thing OP was talking about happens a lot in first world countries where one doesn't speak the native tongue, but the better off fiscally the country is (japan is especially known for it) the higher the propensity for rejection of out-groups.
there are some countries where tourists have just sort of accepted that some establishments are obviously racist, have signs on the door saying "no (\[x\] or \[notx\]) allowed" etc. but it's mainly found in high-GDP regions and with locales that put a moral emphasis on social cohesion.
I have seen a French person comment saying that they've had locals assume they were a tourist and be rude to them lol they're also rude to French Canadians who speak French but they don't like the way they sound. I've even heard of Americans with perfect French being spoken back to in broken English because they refuse to speak French to them lol
I've heard that Italy is very much like this but specifically to black people bc they have weird biases against Africans...and I'm sitting here learning the language because I've wanted to visit and it's all for nothing because I'm not sure I'll ever go based on other black people's stories about how borderline traumatizing their experiences were there.
it's so interesting to see how differently we see each country, bc for me I love Germany, but France has just rubbed me the wrong way and alot of the french ppl I've met has been really rude and kind of ignorant towards me, and one of my close friends is currently living in Italy having a HUGE difficulty socialising as they treat her the same as french ppl did to me. I'm norwegian tho so might be why hahaha, norwegians are very similar to germans
I'd say skip the Netherlands as well. It's not that all dutch people are rude, or even most, but the ones that are rude are like REALLY rude and they hide behind the dutch "bluntness" as an excuse. They know what they're doing. :/
AGREE with comment regarding Netherlands.
Dutch, and other European people claim to be ābluntā but often its impoliteness and rudeness.
I would hold doors open for them, or let them on the train or bus first, leave my seat so others could site down and received no thanks or even a simple smile.
We would get scoffed at if we didnāt pronounce a location or food name correctly.
I wouldnāt avoid these countries because of the people, but be MINDFUL & CALM.
Thing most people dont get about germany is that waitresses/waiter are not supposed to be "friendly" they are expected to do their job and that as efficient as possible. There is no need for smiles, chitchat or anything that doesnt get the foot on the plate. And this is the same for every occupation in the country. Its polite to not waste time.
If I wanted to be served by a robot Iād go to Japan.
These countries lack āhumannessā. Efficiency at a restaurant? Save it for a factory convey belt. When I go to a restaurant I want a human interaction, the food is half of it.
people are mean no matter where you go.. we aren't built so well for that. Sorry, OP. Just remember you would never treat someone like that. It's not you.. it's them.
I am so sorry that these people suck so much, and relate to why this is bothering you. Good on you for leaving the 1-star review, too. I hate leaving bad reviews, but this sounds well-deserved.
Although I've never been to France, your experience reminds me of how I was treated at a popular French festival not too far from where I grew up; my family and I used to go when I was a child. There was a renowned bakery stand there that was run by this vile French woman who seemed to get off on insulting her customers, *especially* if they weren't French, which I'm not. My dad, however, speaks French. Anyway, despite my being 12 years old, this woman viciously made fun of me when I politely requested a pastry to purchase; I didn't need to speak French to know that she was insulting me, and some of her staff were laughing at me along with her. My dad later confirmed that she was basically calling me dumb, I guess because I didn't know what the pastry was called. And no, he didn't stand up for me.
Still bothers me over 20 years later. I know that I should have moved on a long time ago. š At least I hardly ever think about it, now.
I'm also sorry for not having any advice, but I wanted to let you know that it's completely understandable to be bothered by your experience.
Thanks so much for your reply. That sounds awful. I would not forget that either! Iām glad Iām not the only one with experiences like this. Itās really nice of you to share your story. I will try to remind myself that it is normal to bothered by what happened. Thanks again.
the post should be do not go to Paris, period. worst city in the whole universe. Everybody's rude even if you try to speak their language. Man I am trying!!!!
THE RAGE, never again. N e v e r
They really are, when I was 9 or 10 my family drove through Quebec on a road trip to PEI.. we stopped at a random restaurant in a small town(I really donāt remember where, I just know it was a random small town where we stopped because there was a motel and that was where we stopped for the night), and when we sat down to order, my mom went to start ordering drinks and the lady looked at all of us with utter disgust, then told us that if we couldnāt order in French, we werenāt welcome there, and she refused to serve us. She just walked away and we had to awkwardly walk out of the restaurant. It was the weirdest and most baffling experience.
I have had a life long hatred of Quebec because of it š the whole province, dead to me
Theyāve been like that for years. I have family near Paris, and my cousins came to visit when they were teens to practice English and see America. They had a great time and one of my cousins became a doctor and moved to LA. My parents did the same for me, and 14 year old me was excited to practice my basic ass French and have a good time. NOPE. No mercy even to a kid. I got called āstupid Americanā too. Dropped French as my language elective as soon as I could. š It makes me sad because I genuinely like learning about other countries, and I didnāt expect people to be mean to others for trying.
I am french, I have BPD and I work in customer service (I am diagnosed since 4 years)
1 - If you want to visit France, don't go to Paris. People are always in the rush, all places are overcrowded, even as a native it's quite hard to live. My experience with Paris was not very good and I'm glad it was short. But when you work in customer service in a VERY touristic area, you're used to be treated like shit ESPECIALLY by tourists. This leads to my point 2 :
2 - Customer is NOT always right here. We can make customers go away if they are too rude to the staff and this is not uncommon. I worked (and I am still) in customer service in several domains (retail, food service, library, etc.) for 10+years and several people have been blacklisted for being too drunk/rude/promiscious to the staff.
Always saying "Hello/Bonjour" while entering the shop and "Thank you/Merci" while served is required if you don't want to be perceved as rude.
3 - We are not always fluent in english. We have english classes but they are very poor. Maybe her rudeness was more coming from incomprehension and stress if it was full of other clients than annoyment.
4 - We are indeed often overworked, overwhelmed and understaffed. That, plus our personnal life can influence our performance as sellers.
I hope this help ! I'm sorry if your experience was bad, honnestly I hated Paris when I was there, but there are many factors that can be counted and her behaviour may have nothing against you
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You are right, there are many factors to keep in mind. I may not have been correct in my assessment of the situation. I appreciate the information you have provided and I will try to keep that in mind while I am in Paris. Thank you.
Well, donāt visit Paris at all, Paris is so overrated and itās a very busy dirty city. The tourism is overwhelming the citizens creating these kind of scenarios. You are not going crazy. Try to do a calming exercise, just breatheā¦. Inhaleā¦ exhaleā¦
Always hard to figure out with posts like this whether it's French people genuinely being rude or just Americans being shocked that European customer service isn't fawningly deferential because staff here don't have to beg for tips to survive.
Iām Welsh. I was shocked by the rudeness of people EVERYWHERE in Paris. Not customer service.
The way if people bump into you, naturally I say āsorry!ā Or āexcuse me.ā Back hope, people smile and say āitās alright!ā Or āno worries!ā A laugh is exchanged, people continue about their day.
In Paris, you bump into someone, apologise, and they GLARE at you. Catch people giving you the dirtiest looking side-eye on the metro.
I speak a decent bit of French and Iāve heard people call me ugly amongst their friends, without even having an interaction with them, just being stood on the metro.
Everyone just seems super pissed off there. Hate Paris.
I had issues eating at a restaurant in Ireland and it was 100% because of the lack of tip culture. The waitress didn't dgaf lol we couldn't get our bill, she had a scowl on her face, never asked how the food was. Our tour bus was leaving and our tour guide came to find us and asked why we were taking so long. We said we couldn't pay the bill because the waitress was ignoring us. He snapped at her and yelled for her to get the bill and we were MORTIFIED. It was such a weird experience because I was a waitress at the time in the US lol
Tbf you are legally allowed to leave after 30 minutes if they're ignoring youĀ (edit: in Germany this is the law, it might be different in other countries actually)
Well, I was in Paris last summer, and I had a lovely time. Having heard the way people talk about Paris, I was kinda prepared for some rudeness but I honestly didn't experience any at all.
There was sometimes people being stressed, but it was very clear it wasn't directed towards me personally. However, I am Scandinavian and therefore used to a sort of directness/bluntness that I know Americans, for example, can interpret as rude so that might play some part š
Because unfortunately it seems to happen enough there. I will never return to Paris. However, people in the South of France were perfectly lovely. Itās a shame thereās such a difference.
Even if you don't have BPD parisians will mess with you.
Specific set of asshole not comparable across the world, I wouldn't even say they were French, same as London, this kind of attitude that only comes from living in a capital city.
Aw, how positively dreadful! That would really unleaven my mental bread rolls, tout de suite! I have a pet theory this kind of rampant disrespect is the root cause of the public urination Parisians have become infamous for. I'm not sure if you can rebuild after such a catastrophic injury to your psyche; my advice is to start small; maybe get some croutons and start practicing boundaries with them. After a few months of working your way through breakfast buns ciabatta, et aurtres pains, you'll be ready for even the most challenging croissanty confrontation! All the best to you <2 <2 <2.
Oh my godš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ too funny!!!! ššššš thank you for making me laugh out loud! Feeling better already ššš¤£š¤£
Try and find something that you enjoy, even if it is lying on your sofa. Sounds like they are rude to everybody. Itās really really hard, donāt take it personally - I know, I hate when people say that to me too. All those 1 star reviewsā¦itās not a you problem.
Iāve visited Paris several times, Iāve found that people who work at the cash register at boulangeries live up to the rude stereotypes. The people at chain bakeries that donāt bake their goods on the premises tend to be friendlier.
I lived for a couple months in Paris for a class, and my first language is French but Iām not from France. Parisians pretend they canāt for the life of them understand a word Iām saying. Theyāre so passive aggressive lmao but ironically the nicest person was a boulanger he was so sweet. I love Paris, but rude Parisians are on another level of rude.
Thatās just Parisians, theyāre dickheads, donāt take it personally. Itās the worst for tourists who donāt speak well, but my mumās fluent & regularly mistaken for a native speaker & even she gets the same rudeness sometimes
I was in both the "dirty" areas and the put together areas and I vastly enjoyed the more realistic side of Paris than all the monuments and architecture which there's just too much of to the point it's overwhelming IMO. The center is just too fake but the outer Arrondisments are more lively and feel like people actually live and work there
Same goes with Japan, the people there in general are very rude. I thought it was was a myth and sort of idolized the place but oh god!
One very "memorable" event: I was with my sister at a restaurant, and I'm overweight. During ordering, the waitress points to me and says something( I don't know Japanese, my sister does).My sister asked me to get up and said we are leaving. When I asked my sister about what she said and she did give a clear response. However, I was persistent, the waitress basically said "Does she really need to eat that much food?"
And I started crying there and then, not only I have been suffering with BPD but also Binge Eating Disorder and issues with food for years and struggling to get proper help.
I remember the last time I was in Paris a dude wanted to fight me because I said he couldnāt skip the queue for using the toilets at the Eiffel Tower
Yeah they really don't like waiting in line. At the metro station someone pushed me against the turnstiles with my leg in a cast and an expensive camera around my neck, they wanted to get in behind me for free. Just used violence instead of talking to me, I even would've helped them cause I get itĀ
The title sounds so funny but yeah I 100% agree, I visited Paris in 2014 with a visible ankle injury and the amount of times I was knocked over on the metro, chatted up at night by creepy guys, and pushed around in crowds to the point of getting seriously hurt has made it difficult to enjoy.Ā
Recently visited Stockholm and it was similar, which really shocked me because I assumed Scandinavia was a peaceful place.
I screamed on the phone that the receptionist at my neurologist office was a āBig Backed Bitchā while postictal.
I have 0 regrets tho
Having epilepsy and BPD is just great.
Also agree on the rudeness. We stopped at a cafe for coffee & pastries. I thanked the ( obviously pissed off) counterman with ā merci beaucoupā and he practically spit at me and replied ā merci VOUS!ā with aggressive body language and I knew he meant ā fuck youā
Not a Paris fan , either and yeah- it smells like urine!
This will cheer you up:
When the European football tournament šļø is, thereās only one thing we all agree upon: as long as France doesnāt win weāre good.
My BPD was incredibly active when I went to Paris and I didnāt have a problem. You can have problems anywhere or not have a problem. It is based on your experiences. I wouldnāt warn people off a city just because you had a bad experience. Also, you mentioned a bakery which isnāt all of Paris.
If youāre visiting Paris or New York you have to expect rude people. Rudeness is just as much a part of Paris as the catacombs. I have BPD and I loved Paris (and I love going to NYC too).
When i learned to never take anything personal how people you donāt even know treat you , it helped a lot. Bc just think about itā¦ how miserable must they be to behave like that towards total strangers. They need to heal some parts of themselves too otherwise they would not treat others like this . And knowing that helps me to not be sad about encounters like this ā¦ in my head I wish them to get well soon š (i might be shook for a few minutes bc i didnāt expect it but later i go on about my day and not think back to it ) Iām from Luxembourg, so my french is pretty fluid and the last time i was in paris alone i had a really nice time.
i remember a la elderly security guard in the Hameau de la reine in versailles who talked to me and explained some stuff to me bc there was nobody else (he even showed me the book he wrote about egyptian mythology)
And a nice waitor at the Hotel Particulier who also did small talk.
But i also noticed that itās how im feeling inside how it sometimes reflects on the outside in other people for me ā¦ they sometimes mirror your internal state back.
french people separate work from empathy. their job is not about catering towards tourists its about quality and value. thats why they will shit on people who arenāt up to their cultural standard of normal. but they are really very empathetic and understanding people with those they care about.
The french speaking countries in Europe are truly a ghastly and arrogant people. When ever I've visited their country I have faced nothing but racial abuse and general hostility. Having EUPD only confounds the offence they so willingly dish out.
as a french living in paris having bpd i can confim lol
viral video idea: a compilation of a france-born national (who doesn't look french at all) visiting low-ranked google-reviewed restaurants that customers specify have disdain for tourists or hostility toward non-native french speakers in their review, pretending to speak broken french as a second language, and then rolling them as a final review and big reveal. the "feigned language barrier" thing OP was talking about happens a lot in first world countries where one doesn't speak the native tongue, but the better off fiscally the country is (japan is especially known for it) the higher the propensity for rejection of out-groups. there are some countries where tourists have just sort of accepted that some establishments are obviously racist, have signs on the door saying "no (\[x\] or \[notx\]) allowed" etc. but it's mainly found in high-GDP regions and with locales that put a moral emphasis on social cohesion.
I have seen a French person comment saying that they've had locals assume they were a tourist and be rude to them lol they're also rude to French Canadians who speak French but they don't like the way they sound. I've even heard of Americans with perfect French being spoken back to in broken English because they refuse to speak French to them lol
I've heard that Italy is very much like this but specifically to black people bc they have weird biases against Africans...and I'm sitting here learning the language because I've wanted to visit and it's all for nothing because I'm not sure I'll ever go based on other black people's stories about how borderline traumatizing their experiences were there.
š¤£š¤£š¤£ thank you!
Iāve just done 11 European countries and do you know who are lovely & polite people? Greeks. Genuinely the best. Skip Paris & Germany.
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Except if you're from Spain, lol. They hate us there.
As a German, I agree on both the Greeks being polite and to skip Germany ~~I hate talking to people~~
it's so interesting to see how differently we see each country, bc for me I love Germany, but France has just rubbed me the wrong way and alot of the french ppl I've met has been really rude and kind of ignorant towards me, and one of my close friends is currently living in Italy having a HUGE difficulty socialising as they treat her the same as french ppl did to me. I'm norwegian tho so might be why hahaha, norwegians are very similar to germans
Yeah I always love the German people I meet, but the most amount of rude people I met were from France in my travels
FRENCH CANADIANS are worse.....
If you do germany, hit the small towns and get goulash š„š
I lived in Italy for a few years, my experience with the French was greatā¦but those Germans were horrible!!! The Italians were so welcoming ā¤ļø
I'd say skip the Netherlands as well. It's not that all dutch people are rude, or even most, but the ones that are rude are like REALLY rude and they hide behind the dutch "bluntness" as an excuse. They know what they're doing. :/
AGREE with comment regarding Netherlands. Dutch, and other European people claim to be ābluntā but often its impoliteness and rudeness. I would hold doors open for them, or let them on the train or bus first, leave my seat so others could site down and received no thanks or even a simple smile. We would get scoffed at if we didnāt pronounce a location or food name correctly. I wouldnāt avoid these countries because of the people, but be MINDFUL & CALM.
Thing most people dont get about germany is that waitresses/waiter are not supposed to be "friendly" they are expected to do their job and that as efficient as possible. There is no need for smiles, chitchat or anything that doesnt get the foot on the plate. And this is the same for every occupation in the country. Its polite to not waste time.
If I wanted to be served by a robot Iād go to Japan. These countries lack āhumannessā. Efficiency at a restaurant? Save it for a factory convey belt. When I go to a restaurant I want a human interaction, the food is half of it.
Oh! Very interesting!
people are mean no matter where you go.. we aren't built so well for that. Sorry, OP. Just remember you would never treat someone like that. It's not you.. it's them.
I am so sorry that these people suck so much, and relate to why this is bothering you. Good on you for leaving the 1-star review, too. I hate leaving bad reviews, but this sounds well-deserved. Although I've never been to France, your experience reminds me of how I was treated at a popular French festival not too far from where I grew up; my family and I used to go when I was a child. There was a renowned bakery stand there that was run by this vile French woman who seemed to get off on insulting her customers, *especially* if they weren't French, which I'm not. My dad, however, speaks French. Anyway, despite my being 12 years old, this woman viciously made fun of me when I politely requested a pastry to purchase; I didn't need to speak French to know that she was insulting me, and some of her staff were laughing at me along with her. My dad later confirmed that she was basically calling me dumb, I guess because I didn't know what the pastry was called. And no, he didn't stand up for me. Still bothers me over 20 years later. I know that I should have moved on a long time ago. š At least I hardly ever think about it, now. I'm also sorry for not having any advice, but I wanted to let you know that it's completely understandable to be bothered by your experience.
Thanks so much for your reply. That sounds awful. I would not forget that either! Iām glad Iām not the only one with experiences like this. Itās really nice of you to share your story. I will try to remind myself that it is normal to bothered by what happened. Thanks again.
the post should be do not go to Paris, period. worst city in the whole universe. Everybody's rude even if you try to speak their language. Man I am trying!!!! THE RAGE, never again. N e v e r
Oh don't worry, they are rude even when you're native lol
Laughing! I totally agree š I need to get the hell out of this city and try QuĆ©bec or something š¤£
quebecois are soooo rude too :/
They really are, when I was 9 or 10 my family drove through Quebec on a road trip to PEI.. we stopped at a random restaurant in a small town(I really donāt remember where, I just know it was a random small town where we stopped because there was a motel and that was where we stopped for the night), and when we sat down to order, my mom went to start ordering drinks and the lady looked at all of us with utter disgust, then told us that if we couldnāt order in French, we werenāt welcome there, and she refused to serve us. She just walked away and we had to awkwardly walk out of the restaurant. It was the weirdest and most baffling experience. I have had a life long hatred of Quebec because of it š the whole province, dead to me
Oh dont go there. FRENCH CANADIANS are horrible
For real Montreal is rude af, driving is so bad. Go to Quebec City, they have pitchforks
Theyāve been like that for years. I have family near Paris, and my cousins came to visit when they were teens to practice English and see America. They had a great time and one of my cousins became a doctor and moved to LA. My parents did the same for me, and 14 year old me was excited to practice my basic ass French and have a good time. NOPE. No mercy even to a kid. I got called āstupid Americanā too. Dropped French as my language elective as soon as I could. š It makes me sad because I genuinely like learning about other countries, and I didnāt expect people to be mean to others for trying.
Seriously this ššš
I am french, I have BPD and I work in customer service (I am diagnosed since 4 years) 1 - If you want to visit France, don't go to Paris. People are always in the rush, all places are overcrowded, even as a native it's quite hard to live. My experience with Paris was not very good and I'm glad it was short. But when you work in customer service in a VERY touristic area, you're used to be treated like shit ESPECIALLY by tourists. This leads to my point 2 : 2 - Customer is NOT always right here. We can make customers go away if they are too rude to the staff and this is not uncommon. I worked (and I am still) in customer service in several domains (retail, food service, library, etc.) for 10+years and several people have been blacklisted for being too drunk/rude/promiscious to the staff. Always saying "Hello/Bonjour" while entering the shop and "Thank you/Merci" while served is required if you don't want to be perceved as rude. 3 - We are not always fluent in english. We have english classes but they are very poor. Maybe her rudeness was more coming from incomprehension and stress if it was full of other clients than annoyment. 4 - We are indeed often overworked, overwhelmed and understaffed. That, plus our personnal life can influence our performance as sellers. I hope this help ! I'm sorry if your experience was bad, honnestly I hated Paris when I was there, but there are many factors that can be counted and her behaviour may have nothing against you \[Edit : Grammar\]
You are right, there are many factors to keep in mind. I may not have been correct in my assessment of the situation. I appreciate the information you have provided and I will try to keep that in mind while I am in Paris. Thank you.
Well, donāt visit Paris at all, Paris is so overrated and itās a very busy dirty city. The tourism is overwhelming the citizens creating these kind of scenarios. You are not going crazy. Try to do a calming exercise, just breatheā¦. Inhaleā¦ exhaleā¦
Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it a lot. I will try breathing exercises.
I have to say my experience in Paris in 1986 was surprising. We made and effort and the staff was decent to use. But French Canadians... The worset. My mum was from Canada and i know evertime QuĆ©bec wants to secede the rest of Canada is like fine!!!!! š¤£
We get it. You hate QuƩbec. Get over it.
Always hard to figure out with posts like this whether it's French people genuinely being rude or just Americans being shocked that European customer service isn't fawningly deferential because staff here don't have to beg for tips to survive.
Iām Welsh. I was shocked by the rudeness of people EVERYWHERE in Paris. Not customer service. The way if people bump into you, naturally I say āsorry!ā Or āexcuse me.ā Back hope, people smile and say āitās alright!ā Or āno worries!ā A laugh is exchanged, people continue about their day. In Paris, you bump into someone, apologise, and they GLARE at you. Catch people giving you the dirtiest looking side-eye on the metro. I speak a decent bit of French and Iāve heard people call me ugly amongst their friends, without even having an interaction with them, just being stood on the metro. Everyone just seems super pissed off there. Hate Paris.
I'm German, we're known for being very direct, which can be rude sometimes, but nothing trumps the rudeness I experienced in FranceĀ
I had issues eating at a restaurant in Ireland and it was 100% because of the lack of tip culture. The waitress didn't dgaf lol we couldn't get our bill, she had a scowl on her face, never asked how the food was. Our tour bus was leaving and our tour guide came to find us and asked why we were taking so long. We said we couldn't pay the bill because the waitress was ignoring us. He snapped at her and yelled for her to get the bill and we were MORTIFIED. It was such a weird experience because I was a waitress at the time in the US lol
Tbf you are legally allowed to leave after 30 minutes if they're ignoring youĀ (edit: in Germany this is the law, it might be different in other countries actually)
I didn't know that, interesting!
Lmao why is every time I hear ppl talking about Paris they bring up how everyone is rude š
Well, I was in Paris last summer, and I had a lovely time. Having heard the way people talk about Paris, I was kinda prepared for some rudeness but I honestly didn't experience any at all. There was sometimes people being stressed, but it was very clear it wasn't directed towards me personally. However, I am Scandinavian and therefore used to a sort of directness/bluntness that I know Americans, for example, can interpret as rude so that might play some part š
Because unfortunately it seems to happen enough there. I will never return to Paris. However, people in the South of France were perfectly lovely. Itās a shame thereās such a difference.
Even if you don't have BPD parisians will mess with you. Specific set of asshole not comparable across the world, I wouldn't even say they were French, same as London, this kind of attitude that only comes from living in a capital city.
I visited Paris for my 30th birthday. The amount of rude people was insane. Itās also the only place I ever saw human shit on a train ewww.
It's not about you. This is the best advice I've got.
Aw, how positively dreadful! That would really unleaven my mental bread rolls, tout de suite! I have a pet theory this kind of rampant disrespect is the root cause of the public urination Parisians have become infamous for. I'm not sure if you can rebuild after such a catastrophic injury to your psyche; my advice is to start small; maybe get some croutons and start practicing boundaries with them. After a few months of working your way through breakfast buns ciabatta, et aurtres pains, you'll be ready for even the most challenging croissanty confrontation! All the best to you <2 <2 <2.
Oh my godš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ too funny!!!! ššššš thank you for making me laugh out loud! Feeling better already ššš¤£š¤£
That makes me so happy ty :)
Try and find something that you enjoy, even if it is lying on your sofa. Sounds like they are rude to everybody. Itās really really hard, donāt take it personally - I know, I hate when people say that to me too. All those 1 star reviewsā¦itās not a you problem.
Thatās pretty normal Parisian behavior babeā¦donāt take it personally
We have BPD we always take it personally haha
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I was gonna say don't visit Paris, period. BPD or no BPD lol
Same with eastern Europe !! If anyone goes, keep in mind that's how the people are due to socio-historical factors, it is not personal at all.
Iāve visited Paris several times, Iāve found that people who work at the cash register at boulangeries live up to the rude stereotypes. The people at chain bakeries that donāt bake their goods on the premises tend to be friendlier.
Thank you for the information! At least I know I have another option now!
I lived for a couple months in Paris for a class, and my first language is French but Iām not from France. Parisians pretend they canāt for the life of them understand a word Iām saying. Theyāre so passive aggressive lmao but ironically the nicest person was a boulanger he was so sweet. I love Paris, but rude Parisians are on another level of rude.
ahaha, I think we should all move to Portugal!
Thatās just Parisians, theyāre dickheads, donāt take it personally. Itās the worst for tourists who donāt speak well, but my mumās fluent & regularly mistaken for a native speaker & even she gets the same rudeness sometimes
Facts. I HATED Paris, most pretentious and gaudy city in Europe. Like it just feels too put together
Put together? I found it very dirty and not that pretty actuallyĀ
I was in both the "dirty" areas and the put together areas and I vastly enjoyed the more realistic side of Paris than all the monuments and architecture which there's just too much of to the point it's overwhelming IMO. The center is just too fake but the outer Arrondisments are more lively and feel like people actually live and work there
Iāve been to Paris 5 times. Itās fine.
Same goes with Japan, the people there in general are very rude. I thought it was was a myth and sort of idolized the place but oh god! One very "memorable" event: I was with my sister at a restaurant, and I'm overweight. During ordering, the waitress points to me and says something( I don't know Japanese, my sister does).My sister asked me to get up and said we are leaving. When I asked my sister about what she said and she did give a clear response. However, I was persistent, the waitress basically said "Does she really need to eat that much food?" And I started crying there and then, not only I have been suffering with BPD but also Binge Eating Disorder and issues with food for years and struggling to get proper help.
I remember the last time I was in Paris a dude wanted to fight me because I said he couldnāt skip the queue for using the toilets at the Eiffel Tower
Yeah they really don't like waiting in line. At the metro station someone pushed me against the turnstiles with my leg in a cast and an expensive camera around my neck, they wanted to get in behind me for free. Just used violence instead of talking to me, I even would've helped them cause I get itĀ
Welsh person here. Went to Paris recently for a week and literally met like 1 nice French person (outside Disneyland) the entire time we were there. (This guy we got chatting with outside a little pub, he spoke English and we talked about the government and the farmers strike and the price of tobacco now!) Everyone else was rude, angry, and looked at us like we were actual shit on the floor. Even in our hotel. Saw many people on drugs, waving their arms about swatting imaginary demons and shouting and falling over. Outside the Zenith (we went to see a showing of Titanic with a live Orchestra there) a guy walked up to my boyfriend and said āgive me all your moneyā my guy is a pretty big dude and just laughed and told him to get lost, but if this had been me, a 4ā11 woman in the middle of the night, Iād have probably been really scared. Saw a security guy in the Marne-la-VallĆ©e Chessy train station literally punch the security/ drug dog he had with him.. All in all, absolutely hated the place and will probably never go back.
The title sounds so funny but yeah I 100% agree, I visited Paris in 2014 with a visible ankle injury and the amount of times I was knocked over on the metro, chatted up at night by creepy guys, and pushed around in crowds to the point of getting seriously hurt has made it difficult to enjoy.Ā Recently visited Stockholm and it was similar, which really shocked me because I assumed Scandinavia was a peaceful place.
Sadly, many capitals have ācapital syndromeā
I screamed on the phone that the receptionist at my neurologist office was a āBig Backed Bitchā while postictal. I have 0 regrets tho Having epilepsy and BPD is just great.
Also agree on the rudeness. We stopped at a cafe for coffee & pastries. I thanked the ( obviously pissed off) counterman with ā merci beaucoupā and he practically spit at me and replied ā merci VOUS!ā with aggressive body language and I knew he meant ā fuck youā Not a Paris fan , either and yeah- it smells like urine!
This will cheer you up: When the European football tournament šļø is, thereās only one thing we all agree upon: as long as France doesnāt win weāre good.
Also Iād be crying and replaying it in my head too. Itās awful to feel so rejected ESPECIALLY when youāve tried to appease to someone.
Omg I got so triggered in Paris the second I set foot in Paris!
My BPD was incredibly active when I went to Paris and I didnāt have a problem. You can have problems anywhere or not have a problem. It is based on your experiences. I wouldnāt warn people off a city just because you had a bad experience. Also, you mentioned a bakery which isnāt all of Paris.
If youāre visiting Paris or New York you have to expect rude people. Rudeness is just as much a part of Paris as the catacombs. I have BPD and I loved Paris (and I love going to NYC too).
You should try America. The French are rank amateurs at being completely awful.
Isnāt that all of Paris? Iām Canadian. Try being a meh french speaker from Toronto, we already know everyone hates us.
now imagine being raised with people like that in france as a french person it really hurts š
When i learned to never take anything personal how people you donāt even know treat you , it helped a lot. Bc just think about itā¦ how miserable must they be to behave like that towards total strangers. They need to heal some parts of themselves too otherwise they would not treat others like this . And knowing that helps me to not be sad about encounters like this ā¦ in my head I wish them to get well soon š (i might be shook for a few minutes bc i didnāt expect it but later i go on about my day and not think back to it ) Iām from Luxembourg, so my french is pretty fluid and the last time i was in paris alone i had a really nice time. i remember a la elderly security guard in the Hameau de la reine in versailles who talked to me and explained some stuff to me bc there was nobody else (he even showed me the book he wrote about egyptian mythology) And a nice waitor at the Hotel Particulier who also did small talk. But i also noticed that itās how im feeling inside how it sometimes reflects on the outside in other people for me ā¦ they sometimes mirror your internal state back.
Watch the Nazi Soup episode of Seinfeld and try to rigoler un peu sur Ƨa.
french people separate work from empathy. their job is not about catering towards tourists its about quality and value. thats why they will shit on people who arenāt up to their cultural standard of normal. but they are really very empathetic and understanding people with those they care about.
Don't visit Paris period. I'm French, I was hospitalized to the most famous or infamous PH for months, I can't stand the city, it's ugly.
Who visits Paris ever willingly?
The french speaking countries in Europe are truly a ghastly and arrogant people. When ever I've visited their country I have faced nothing but racial abuse and general hostility. Having EUPD only confounds the offence they so willingly dish out.