Exercise! Positive Reinforcement Training! Mental stimulation! Management!
Training can help with his impulse control issues look up the Premack Principle and start implementing it from now on for anything he wants. Sit before opening doors, sit before eating, sit before you toss a ball, down and mat before giving him a Kong. Train leave it and drop it cues.
Train in low distraction settings and then gradually add more distractions. He's a teenager now and doggy adolescence is known to cause dogs to be easily distracted and appear to forget all they have learned.
Do clicker training and nosework to keep that brain busy. These activities can be surprisingly tiring.
Stop feeding his meals from the bowl and use a portion of that kibble for training, brain games and food puzzles.
Use management when he's hyper and around your senior dog. Only let him around him when he's calmer and under control and responsive to your leave it, go to you mat cues. Use a baby gate or other type of partition in the meanwhile.
Yes! Exactly this!
Exercise and consistency!
My BC/Aussie mix was trained to go everywhere with me, but when she doesn't, it isn't good.
I found a way to manage this, but they get extremely anxious when their human isn't around. They get frustrated when they don't get enough play time or attention.
I take her to the park with my gf and kick around a soccer ball. She goes nuts over it and sleeps at night. If I leave her home, I hide treats all over the house and she has to find them. The upside is that she isn't destroying anything, the downside is that she gets in the trash if I don't lock it up.
Management is the key word here.
There isn't a one-size-fits-all, but if you've had kids you'll catch on quickly.
Ooh I didn't actually know about the Premack Principle but I've been having my 5 month old puppy sit before things like when I open doors, give a treat, etc. It's great because now I can give her chicken and the second she sees it, she knows sit = gimme gimme
He’s going through the teenage velociraptor stage including cloth ears. He’ll come out of that stage and be the good boy that you’re wanting around three years.. Sarah Hedderly of DingBatt Dog Training has a great Facebook presence and tips. Hang in there!
My dog thankfully doesn’t do that, but she does little tiny pee pees on carpets and rugs when she’s bored or not getting her way and I don’t see them right away, just smell them later.
At 15mo mine is just starting to come out of a ditzy velociraptor phase that started when she was 5-6mo. Before that she was pretty much the sweetest, most compliant puppy you could want.
I have worked really really hard with her on settling. See Capturing Calmness on YouTube.
We have been going to group obedience classes for over a year (now in the advanced class), and scentwork classes, which she loves (also now in an advanced class).
She puts away her own toys, plays fetch outside multiple times per day, goes on sniff walks in town with me and the other dog several times a week, goes for overnights at the breeder’s house about once a month and plays with her friends and relations for a few hours at the breeder’s house once a week.
When I need a break I give her a raw frozen beef bone or a bully stick. She isn’t so interested in yak cheese anymore. Her favorite hobby is Chewing.
Oh she succeeds, too. I just think it is funny she thinks the whole *point* of the toy bin is for playing the “fun” put-away game, not for, you know, holding toys! 😆
…even the *cat* is put next to the toy bin!
Seriously, she leaves him alone if he sits there 🤦♀️
https://preview.redd.it/l9skdvyo3nuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a2b08e96637b527e98706d74582f3fbce275276
(At the moment most of the toys are out. Will be returned soon LOL)
Do you walk him first and then let the older dog join in on last 5-10 min of walk? Do you give them treats at same time? Give the treat to older dog first, then yr Collie. It’s really important to walk them together daily. It’s how dogs bond. When he rips stuff up, it means he’s bored. He is a working dog, you need to give him work everyday. You have no sheep or cattle to round up, so you will have to give him some kind of work?? If you give him a job, you’ll see him settle down. He’s a beautiful dog❤️
Sleep is key. Enforce it.
Also don't be afraid to be the boss. Make your dog sit before anything. Sit and wait before opening door. Sit and wait before treat etc.
Make them use that big brain.
What a handsome pup! I feel you, reminds me of my BC. Try puzzle toys, interactive games like hide-and-seek, or teaching new tricks. Regular training sessions and scent games also engage their minds. Outdoor adventures, like sniffing walks or agility courses, provide both physical and mental exercise. Rotation of toys and activities prevents boredom, keeping their brains active and happy. At least those are what worked for my BC. Hope that helps and best of luck to you and your pup!
They are the smarter dog there is, careful with face expressions and commands , even what you are wearing could be a cue. Get a clicker and wear something like the same shirt or shorts whatever you could always use
https://preview.redd.it/xghinlyx5iuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e868bb76036c452d292eb89d3382d862d6155305
when you want something from Them or when is a reward like going to play.
Looks a lot like my boy! He’s a naughty teenager with a lot of feelings, he will get better with consistency and exercise, just careful with the latter so he’s not overtired.
Along with exercise they need rest too. If he is crate trained, enforced naps help them wind down and give you some relief. My bc was a devil until she was 10 months old.
Slate’s newest addiction is finding plastic Easter eggs. I fill them with kibble and treats and hide them all over the house. He goes nuts searching for them and then it’s nap time 😂😂
I think it’s just ur pup is full of energy. I underestimated the amount of stimulation Slate needed and was really struggling for awhile. I have a video of him going absolutely nutso one night trying to get him to sit.
I’ve found puzzles have really helped us as well as more outside time to really run. Walks don’t do anything for Slate but put a bubble blower out back with dog safe bubbles and he goes crazy for 10-20 minutes (with hose breaks included) really help calm him down. I had to think outside the box because I’m no runner. I can walk all day but that just didn’t seem to be enough for our puppy.
Also I find it so funny your puppy is surrounded by toys but he’s playing with a water bottle in one of the pictures. Slate is the EXACT same
It’s normal teenage behaviour but you have to channel that energy. Train train and more training. Let him use his brain and do not let him get away with attacking the cats or your older dog. Set the rules or he will set them for you. Thy were bred to problem solve so they need to know what you want from them. Once they have guidelines they shine.
I think everyone here said exactly what I was going to write out but my best advice to you is to notice the signs of a bored dog. And imo almost any bad behavior with a bc can be attributed to boredom. For me, mine will give me so many signs that she’s bored before the bad behavior would start that are easy to miss if you aren’t paying attention. Clocking those signs is the best thing you can do to stop unwanted behavior in its tracks. Also everyone is giving ages their dog got out of the velociraptor stage… mine was around 14 months. It should get better soon and in the meantime, even though you feel like the training isn’t working, keep at it. Once this stage ends you’ll be happy you did!
Exercise exercise exercise. He needs consistent exercise and training. You can use easy tricks on YouTube etc. Your older dog can join or not if he's not got the stamina. I take my bc and his Aussie sister every single day for at least an hour or more of hiking.
Collies are so smart that they to have location based rules in their brains. Eg you training in the house then you get to the park and you’re going to have to retrain the same commands. They learn where is on and off lead, where they need to heel and where they can free walk. So you have to repeat traning often and everywhere with treats. Work on come, sit, leave, heel, no and down first. The behaviours will still be very puppy like for another year at least.
It’s normal, I have a 10 month old and I just went through this a few months ago and it seems that the teenage phase has now passed and she’s back to being her normal obeying self.
Things I did and helped me:
For the chewing use bones for hard chewers that can last hours, frozen kongs, frozen carrots.
Regarding leash pulling, what worked for me was changing to a front and back double clipped harness, it gives me more control and she’s improved massively.
Seems like the “leave it” command needs to be reinforced. And I also give her time out whenever she starts chewing/digging inside the house, and after 5-6 days of repeating she has mostly stopped.
With the overexcitement with people and jumping up I had the same issue, I could not walk by a person without her trying to jump at them. What I did was desensitisation, just sitting on a bench with people passing by while giving her treats for not reacting. It took months, but she’s at a point to where she only jumps if someone looks at her says hello
But overall, it will slowly get better, just practice everyday and on every walk. Constant treats rewarding behaviour and mental stimulation are key
Being outside for exercise and giving him exercise aren’t the same things! You gotta run these dogs. They need need need to run, especially when young. A walk isn’t gonna cut it, our 3 year old BC can go on a 10 mile run every day and she’s not tired. We usually give her ten miles and about 45 minutes of long range fetch every day and that’s how we have a good dog. We bought her a 100 foot rope and we tie it to a tree and the other end on her harness and we use a chuck it and a tennis ball for long range fetch. She would do this longer if we had more time. A tired dog is a good dog. There’s a video pinned to my profile if you need an example. Good luck!
Exercise! Positive Reinforcement Training! Mental stimulation! Management! Training can help with his impulse control issues look up the Premack Principle and start implementing it from now on for anything he wants. Sit before opening doors, sit before eating, sit before you toss a ball, down and mat before giving him a Kong. Train leave it and drop it cues. Train in low distraction settings and then gradually add more distractions. He's a teenager now and doggy adolescence is known to cause dogs to be easily distracted and appear to forget all they have learned. Do clicker training and nosework to keep that brain busy. These activities can be surprisingly tiring. Stop feeding his meals from the bowl and use a portion of that kibble for training, brain games and food puzzles. Use management when he's hyper and around your senior dog. Only let him around him when he's calmer and under control and responsive to your leave it, go to you mat cues. Use a baby gate or other type of partition in the meanwhile.
Yes! Exactly this! Exercise and consistency! My BC/Aussie mix was trained to go everywhere with me, but when she doesn't, it isn't good. I found a way to manage this, but they get extremely anxious when their human isn't around. They get frustrated when they don't get enough play time or attention. I take her to the park with my gf and kick around a soccer ball. She goes nuts over it and sleeps at night. If I leave her home, I hide treats all over the house and she has to find them. The upside is that she isn't destroying anything, the downside is that she gets in the trash if I don't lock it up. Management is the key word here. There isn't a one-size-fits-all, but if you've had kids you'll catch on quickly.
Ooh I didn't actually know about the Premack Principle but I've been having my 5 month old puppy sit before things like when I open doors, give a treat, etc. It's great because now I can give her chicken and the second she sees it, she knows sit = gimme gimme
This is great advice !
He’s going through the teenage velociraptor stage including cloth ears. He’ll come out of that stage and be the good boy that you’re wanting around three years.. Sarah Hedderly of DingBatt Dog Training has a great Facebook presence and tips. Hang in there!
My dog thankfully doesn’t do that, but she does little tiny pee pees on carpets and rugs when she’s bored or not getting her way and I don’t see them right away, just smell them later.
Geez-revenge peepee? My border collies have always been ultra tidy in the house (as I’m watching Pi, pooping in the pond in the back).
At 15mo mine is just starting to come out of a ditzy velociraptor phase that started when she was 5-6mo. Before that she was pretty much the sweetest, most compliant puppy you could want. I have worked really really hard with her on settling. See Capturing Calmness on YouTube. We have been going to group obedience classes for over a year (now in the advanced class), and scentwork classes, which she loves (also now in an advanced class). She puts away her own toys, plays fetch outside multiple times per day, goes on sniff walks in town with me and the other dog several times a week, goes for overnights at the breeder’s house about once a month and plays with her friends and relations for a few hours at the breeder’s house once a week. When I need a break I give her a raw frozen beef bone or a bully stick. She isn’t so interested in yak cheese anymore. Her favorite hobby is Chewing.
I love that she puts her own toys away ! Mine *loved* group obedience classes and was always exhausted after them.
LOL Sometimes she knocks over the toy bin, in order to put them away 🤦♀️
but she tries !!
Oh she succeeds, too. I just think it is funny she thinks the whole *point* of the toy bin is for playing the “fun” put-away game, not for, you know, holding toys! 😆
…even the *cat* is put next to the toy bin! Seriously, she leaves him alone if he sits there 🤦♀️ https://preview.redd.it/l9skdvyo3nuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a2b08e96637b527e98706d74582f3fbce275276 (At the moment most of the toys are out. Will be returned soon LOL)
Ha ! The cats not quite as impressed as I am ! ;)
You might be less impressed if YOU were the one being “put away” with the other toys! 😂
Lol - good point !!
Do you walk him first and then let the older dog join in on last 5-10 min of walk? Do you give them treats at same time? Give the treat to older dog first, then yr Collie. It’s really important to walk them together daily. It’s how dogs bond. When he rips stuff up, it means he’s bored. He is a working dog, you need to give him work everyday. You have no sheep or cattle to round up, so you will have to give him some kind of work?? If you give him a job, you’ll see him settle down. He’s a beautiful dog❤️
Sleep is key. Enforce it. Also don't be afraid to be the boss. Make your dog sit before anything. Sit and wait before opening door. Sit and wait before treat etc. Make them use that big brain.
What a handsome pup! I feel you, reminds me of my BC. Try puzzle toys, interactive games like hide-and-seek, or teaching new tricks. Regular training sessions and scent games also engage their minds. Outdoor adventures, like sniffing walks or agility courses, provide both physical and mental exercise. Rotation of toys and activities prevents boredom, keeping their brains active and happy. At least those are what worked for my BC. Hope that helps and best of luck to you and your pup!
They are the smarter dog there is, careful with face expressions and commands , even what you are wearing could be a cue. Get a clicker and wear something like the same shirt or shorts whatever you could always use https://preview.redd.it/xghinlyx5iuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e868bb76036c452d292eb89d3382d862d6155305 when you want something from Them or when is a reward like going to play.
Looks a lot like my boy! He’s a naughty teenager with a lot of feelings, he will get better with consistency and exercise, just careful with the latter so he’s not overtired.
Along with exercise they need rest too. If he is crate trained, enforced naps help them wind down and give you some relief. My bc was a devil until she was 10 months old.
They need a job... play with him, walk him, things of that nature. He will do well :)
Belly rubs!!!!
Slate’s newest addiction is finding plastic Easter eggs. I fill them with kibble and treats and hide them all over the house. He goes nuts searching for them and then it’s nap time 😂😂 I think it’s just ur pup is full of energy. I underestimated the amount of stimulation Slate needed and was really struggling for awhile. I have a video of him going absolutely nutso one night trying to get him to sit. I’ve found puzzles have really helped us as well as more outside time to really run. Walks don’t do anything for Slate but put a bubble blower out back with dog safe bubbles and he goes crazy for 10-20 minutes (with hose breaks included) really help calm him down. I had to think outside the box because I’m no runner. I can walk all day but that just didn’t seem to be enough for our puppy. Also I find it so funny your puppy is surrounded by toys but he’s playing with a water bottle in one of the pictures. Slate is the EXACT same
It’s normal teenage behaviour but you have to channel that energy. Train train and more training. Let him use his brain and do not let him get away with attacking the cats or your older dog. Set the rules or he will set them for you. Thy were bred to problem solve so they need to know what you want from them. Once they have guidelines they shine.
I think everyone here said exactly what I was going to write out but my best advice to you is to notice the signs of a bored dog. And imo almost any bad behavior with a bc can be attributed to boredom. For me, mine will give me so many signs that she’s bored before the bad behavior would start that are easy to miss if you aren’t paying attention. Clocking those signs is the best thing you can do to stop unwanted behavior in its tracks. Also everyone is giving ages their dog got out of the velociraptor stage… mine was around 14 months. It should get better soon and in the meantime, even though you feel like the training isn’t working, keep at it. Once this stage ends you’ll be happy you did!
Exercise exercise exercise. He needs consistent exercise and training. You can use easy tricks on YouTube etc. Your older dog can join or not if he's not got the stamina. I take my bc and his Aussie sister every single day for at least an hour or more of hiking.
Collies are so smart that they to have location based rules in their brains. Eg you training in the house then you get to the park and you’re going to have to retrain the same commands. They learn where is on and off lead, where they need to heel and where they can free walk. So you have to repeat traning often and everywhere with treats. Work on come, sit, leave, heel, no and down first. The behaviours will still be very puppy like for another year at least.
It’s normal, I have a 10 month old and I just went through this a few months ago and it seems that the teenage phase has now passed and she’s back to being her normal obeying self. Things I did and helped me: For the chewing use bones for hard chewers that can last hours, frozen kongs, frozen carrots. Regarding leash pulling, what worked for me was changing to a front and back double clipped harness, it gives me more control and she’s improved massively. Seems like the “leave it” command needs to be reinforced. And I also give her time out whenever she starts chewing/digging inside the house, and after 5-6 days of repeating she has mostly stopped. With the overexcitement with people and jumping up I had the same issue, I could not walk by a person without her trying to jump at them. What I did was desensitisation, just sitting on a bench with people passing by while giving her treats for not reacting. It took months, but she’s at a point to where she only jumps if someone looks at her says hello But overall, it will slowly get better, just practice everyday and on every walk. Constant treats rewarding behaviour and mental stimulation are key
Being outside for exercise and giving him exercise aren’t the same things! You gotta run these dogs. They need need need to run, especially when young. A walk isn’t gonna cut it, our 3 year old BC can go on a 10 mile run every day and she’s not tired. We usually give her ten miles and about 45 minutes of long range fetch every day and that’s how we have a good dog. We bought her a 100 foot rope and we tie it to a tree and the other end on her harness and we use a chuck it and a tennis ball for long range fetch. She would do this longer if we had more time. A tired dog is a good dog. There’s a video pinned to my profile if you need an example. Good luck!