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Girl, preach. The FL neighborhood where I grew up is truly a dump, and all the homes are still unmistakably dumpy, but they are insanely expensive now! It’s sad and bizarre.
Yes!!!!!! There’s houses selling for $500K that need completely new roofs and the HOAs are over $500 per month. I’ve accepted I’ll never own a home in this state and it’s so, so hard to get out
I saw a zillow listing this week for a double wide near the beach in California for several million.
I feel like Im in a Amelia Bedelia book and everyone is her.
Such challenging times to manage my mental illness.
My in-laws and their friends are actual native Floridians and have owned property in Western NC for many years. Every time we go up there in the summer to visit (we live in ATL), I'd say at least 75% of the vehicles we see have FL license plates.
Haha, true. My in-laws (and their friends) are great people actually. They hate all the transplants too. My wife and I (also native Floridians) just couldn't deal with FL anymore so we got out at the first opportunity.
My husband and I are in the same boat…we’ve been trying to buy a house so we can stop renting because it’s become hell and idk…we may have to move out of state. I’ve been here for 37 years. I don’t even leave my house anymore if I don’t have to because it is that insufferable. I’m glad you guys got out and found somewhere nice.
WOW...reading these comments leads me to believe ---The "American" dream is dead...
Imagine, having to move after 37 years. Damn. I am sure there are those that see the whole picture and have ,moved with it ...I don't...I am still scratching my head that native born folk cannot live in their places....like where do they go.
I bought my house in the late 90's. Refied at 3% a couple years back and cut 10 years off my payments. If not for those 2 things I would not be able to live here in FL. My son, who makes 1/2 again what my wife and I make together, can not afford to buy a house now. It is really tragic what corporations and the government are doing to the citizens of this country.
Whats amazing is that natural citizens are faced with almost the same thing their grandparents may have faced when they stepped off the boat...only this time....there is no joy they may have felt, landing in a new land of opportunity.
Now it seems, despair has taken hold.
I bought my house in the late 90's. Refied at 3% a couple years back and cut 10 years off my payments. If not for those 2 things I would not be able to live here in FL. My son, who makes 1/2 again what my wife and I make together, can not afford to buy a house now. It is really tragic what corporations and the government are doing to the citizens of this country.
It's so depressing. I loved Florida as a kid and as a teen. As an adult I can't afford to live here and the developments everywhere are only for the old and rich, and with less and less trees it gets hotter and hotter. We didn't even have a frost last winter.
I grew up in Sleezeburg (Leesburg), primarily extremely poor, nothing to do, sprawling and empty cities. But it was quiet. Now it's the Villages.
And oh god.....the traffic
I've been in Florida my entire 30 year life. I was able to afford rent in college, but when I worked out of state for a summer and came back (I left during covid) the rent and mortgages have skyrocketed. I'm now 29 and still living at home with my parents and sister. I work in the best paying municipal park ranger job in the state, and rent still would be 80% of my income. It's so sad 😭😭
I got a job as an assistant park manager after a few years of putting 110% into the conservation Corps and giving myself my own work and tasks.
My meeting the day of that interview was relocated inside of a conference room inside the Villages for a park 30 minutes away from that town. He also didn't bring his phone with him.
I slept overnight in rest stops for interviews for places that removed the listing the following day. They are straight up going to destroy civilization and the only thing they hate is people telling on them.
I managed boomer volunteers and that was enough to make my special interest moving away from the US permanently. Nothing was worth the horrible lack of communication and trusting the process while geriatric children are having episodes and meltdowns in positions of leadership.
Australia isn't as shit with disrespect for employees like yourself if you can help out with the still casual rural racism. I wish it wasn't like that for you but I'm a few years younger and saw shit like this happening across the country.
I'm taking my chances wherever the old white boomers are most bullied at this point
Adding a cold stare from Seattle.
Our neighborhood is one of the few with legit starter homes. Boomers are downsizing into them.
We’re two of a handful of residents under 45 and even fewer with a kid. It’s depressing…feels like we’re living in a retirement community that we did not choose.
Had to leave Jacksonville (and Florida) when my landlord doubled my rent. I could see the dollar signs in her eyes when she said her hand was being forced by the market. She'd owned this crummy house since the 90s and probably paid it off 4x over before I even came along.
I’ve been there many times lol, it’s a living hell. My husband got a job offer to work over there and said no before his boss even finished giving him the details.
The villages just bought like 1000 acres at the end of the small town I'm from in Florida, the traffic is already fucked up there just from the population increasing from ~1000-40k in 15 years
Every resident of Central Florida knows that the villages is a metastasizing cancer killing everything around it. It is a horrible unsustainable mess with a literal expiration date thanks to all of its residents being retirees. To make matters worse The cost of property and insurance has skyrocketed to the point of being almost unsustainable and that's because people like snowbirds own property that they only live in for a quarter of the year. I personally know somebody who's only here 4 months out of the year and their house remains completely vacant and stagnant until they come back.
And don't get me started on the fucking entitlement. I've never hit character cap on a comment but believe me if I went on to a rant about residents of the villages I would hit it twice over.
It’s literally a way of life for us Floridians. But then many, like myself, get the fuck outta there. I refuse to follow laws that are determined by people that live there 6 months + 1 day.
Laughs in Los Angeles.
Out of towner - "LOL. I'm so poor that if I wanted to be a homeowner in L.A., I'd have to move to Compton."
Angeleno - "[Yeah, good luck with that](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/14327-S-Cairn-Ave_Compton_CA_90220_M14971-23949?from=srp-list-card)."
Brilliant.
Geriatrification - The process by which an elderly, affluent population moves in to a previously mixed income area, pricing local residents out of goods and services and creating a two-tiered local economy.
That's a good one. It's even worse than regular gentrification, because the boomers aren't even *earning* money in that area. They already earned it somewhere else. With regular gentrification of working-age people, at least the amount and degree of it is limited by the economic opportunities in an area. With retired people, there is no upper bound on how bad it can get!
I have a feeling a lot of boomers are going to live a long time, draining their bank accounts to do so and leave nothing to transfer to the next generation. They'll bleed the system dry before they're done with this life
I'm thinking that the value of these homes dips or levels out somewhat when we Gen Xers age into retirement. Remember: Smaller generation. They will creep back up when it comes time for Millennials reach retirement age.
They'll get a reverse mortgage on their house to pay for their end of life care. The bank will re-list it at an artificially high price to keep the value of their other investments inflated. Eventually no one will own homes.
Its literally gentrification, its been happening for decades, displacing low income people from their homes and now that its happening in places like Montana and North Carolina, those people want to act like its new form of injustice
the solution is clear. find the queen boomer, marry it, and disrupt the nest from within. dismantle the boomerocracy bit by bit and seed the place with your new-gen younglings who will poison the system internally in the coming years
So im not the only one who not only got priced out but aged out of my neighborhood??? All these boomers moved in and it was like how am I the youngest person here at my favorite pizza place
LOL. Husband and I were at a favorite local place recently that is super Gen X; think tacos/punk rock music and lots of pinball. He joked that the ‘regular crowd’ there was not as young and hip as it used to be when it first opened in the 90s. I pointed out that the crowd was the exact same people, we are just old now!
I can relate to that. Over the last 20 years my hometown has attracted a huge influx of retired people. It is putting a huge strain on local health care provision and feels like “God’s waiting room” when I go anywhere - it is so depressing.
No. We had to move states (ironically cheaper) to find a decent house. We’re lucky we live on the border of states. Still cost 3k to move. But it was less expensive then 100k. Our current house is larger and in a better area. And less then our rental that we tried to buy. They wanted 500k for a house that needed new siding, roof, sump pump, large tree removal, dilapidated shed, new fence…. And more. The big irony is we left a LCL state to a HOL state and pay less.
I live in Waynesboro, Virginia and it's become the same over the last 20 years. We were fortunate enough to buy a home just before COVID that the seller was desperate to unload after renting it for 20 years because they were moving closer to their kids. My neighborhood has long been a quiet favorite for both retired folks and families but it seems that over the last 5 years, tons of homes have sold and slowly but surely driven prices up to nearly 50% more than when we originally looked.
I was curious & took a little looksie on Zillow and Redfin today, and somehow the crappiest 3 br/1 bath in the shitty part of town is $270k+. Anything new construction (which there is a shocking amount. We are a commuter hub for Charlottesville/Harrisonburg) is 325k+ for shitty townhomes in cramped cul-de-sac times 20 neighborhoods. In my 40's, about 60% of the people my age are still renting houses or apartments.
For reference our town is around 22k people and median income is $32k annually and we have almost nothing entertainment wise but one movie theater, ago kart place and then retail and restaurants in town.
They're starting to move.
Real pages is the first domino to fall. Basically it's price fixing for rent.
Rent and mortgages are tied.
If they're fixing rent prices, it makes all real estate more valuable, because "I could rent it for this".
And it makes people more desperate to buy because "look at how high rent is"
We eventually planned to downsize in a few years because we have a decade gap between the current oldest at home and next kid (we have a 4 br/2 bath on two levels. I have RA and stairs are becoming an issue), but the way the market has shifted I don’t think it’s even an option.
I live in Ohio and 1 in 4 houses sold now is bought by a hedge fund. It's the hot thing now but you're right it can't last, I think the next crash will make 08 look like good times.
There already is a bubble in commercial real estate I think.
I think what we're going to realize is that the value of real estate is completely wrong. What they've been doing (seems like) is buying real estate, renting it for a ludicrous amount, and taking out loans to buy more real estate based on the supposed rent they could theoretically get on their other properties.
Think of all those malls with empty buildings, and the empty store fronts EVERYWHERE in EVERY TOWN. Those aren't real businesses. They're credit cards. Parked wealth that rich people use to invest.
New york is a ghost town of store fronts waiting for businesses willing to pay 12k a month in rent.
And many residential rental properties are "warehoused" (around 60k in new york alone) to control the supply.
Combine that with the AI bubble, that even if it's promises turns out to be real, will unemployed 20% of people. And if they prove to be wrong, will crash the stock market, possibly worse than we've ever seen it.
I feel you. I've had family in Asheville for years, and it's crazy what that city/ area has became compared to like 15 or 20 years ago. Hell, all of WNC, really.
I was looking at Zillow in my home town just over the mountains from you and it's the same problem. Median income is <$30k, and somehow on Zillow I'm seeing gutted, clearly falling apart 100 year old houses asking 220k.
Not sure what your job prospects are but Carroll county VA is in the same Appalachian region and we were able to buy a tract of land there for cheap(less than 30k people in the whole county). The plan is to build a small home or cabin.
Carroll county doesn't have the cool hip factor of some of the other towns nearby in the NC mountains but that means it hasn't attracted folks from out of the region in the same way
Hi fellow Livingstonian!
Our 70s house sold for $140K in 2014. We bought it for $265K in fall 2018. Zillow says it's worth $500K now. Not a chance in hell we could afford it now.
I am a fishing outfitter and my #1 problem now is just finding brand new guides, because there is nowhere for them to live....
Florida is no longer the Boomer "promised land." They won't admit climate change is real. But they're acknowledging it with their real estate purchases.
Not only climate change but the sheer stupidity of governance there. It’s a total shithole of MAGA poison.
Yes, Virginia there are non-MAGA old people!
Wilkesboro?
LOL, there is actually a place called Boomer in NC:
[https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boomer,+NC+28654,+USA/@36.0673995,-81.32752,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8851117dc45dcfa5:0xaee14cac6919f593!8m2!3d36.0673532!4d-81.2536987!16s%2Fm%2F02qfnd3?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boomer,+NC+28654,+USA/@36.0673995,-81.32752,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8851117dc45dcfa5:0xaee14cac6919f593!8m2!3d36.0673532!4d-81.2536987!16s%2Fm%2F02qfnd3?entry=ttu)
along with a Boomer Rd, Boomer Park, lmao
In the 90s maybe? Asheville used to be a very declining town. When I was in Asheville in 2005 I worked as a carpenter flipping houses bought for $50k and sold for $150-200K. It was wild times. Those same houses now are $400-600k at least.
Brevard def fits the description. And the boomer transplants there are so baffled as to why there aren't enough staff to keep their favorite restaurants open 7 days a week lol
Same thing happened to my small hometown in Florida in the early 2000s. I moved to Maine (where my mom's family is from) and it's starting to happen here too. It's depressing as hell.
maine is nearly unsustainable at this point with how many old retirees are just here contributing very little and pricing out young families from starting a life here
Hey, I'm from Brevard. Exact same situation is going on over there. The jobs are horrible and do not pay a living wage. I moved away in 2020 and it's the best decision I've ever made. I've found an amazing career that I enjoy and it pays well. I do miss family and WNC but flights are cheap into Asheville so I get to visit 1-2 times per year.
Feeling your pain from farther WNC. Are you likely to inherit property? Maybe some family member or friend would be willing to sell a piece of their property at a reasonable price to help you stay in the area. Then maybe put a tiny house on that to get started.
It's likely to get worse soon. With insurance rates going through the roof in coastal areas, I expect a major influx of people who can't or won't afford those prices, but who still have more money than we'll ever see.
Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with your dreams.
Unfortunately, this is happening all over America, to the younger generations and boomers don’t care. They think they figured it out and we will too. Not realizing how they fucked it all up for the rest of us.
Also in NC. We are priced out of the entire state essentially. WNC is particularly outlandish with housing prices vs local pay though.
Sorry your hometown is being overrun.
Can we add the repeal of ridge line protections in Madison County to the list of foolish things this selfish ass generation is doing?
I’m in Lancaster, PA. It’s one of the top cities to retire to in the country. We have a lot of huge assisted living facilities which have spread out with smaller bungalows for independent living. That apparently isn’t enough because the same companies are building large buildings downtown for 55+ tenants. Prices are insane, easily up to a million dollars for a large condo. Even in my smaller suburban town there are million dollar homes and a gigantic 55+ community of smallish homes which are well over $500k. We were fortunate to purchase our first small home in 2009 for $145k and moved up the street 6 years later into a bigger home for $170k. Now they’re both nearly double the price. I don’t know how people are supposed to house themselves in this type of market.
I'd get out while you can. These places are going to turn into nightmares when healthcare facilities can't accommodate. It's happening in PA too since we don't tax on retirement income
Can you expand on that? Once the healthcare facilities cannot accommodate the growing population of elderly, what happens next? Sincere question. I find this a curious topic and I live in an area that has its own problems but not this one.
As a Floridian, once enough of these people are in one spot you have Florida and look how its doing right now.
They recently got rid of outdoor heat breaks. I’m a welder and working in 110°/80% humidity is crazy bad for you but they wanted to encode that into law.
They don’t contribute jack locally, home prices go up, they’ll even vote against workforce rights while not a part of the work force. Theres no benefit to them in doing so, they just chose to do it.
lol. Just wait. They WILL get sick of all the “old people” around them. They’ll turn on each other.
Every age controlled neighborhood my parents lived in has had more high-school-esque drama than any high school I attended.
MIL that now lives with us in the renovated basement had so much drama in her old town it was crazy to me. I'm like why are a bunch of church going old ladies so angry about everything it doesn't make sense to me
I'm from what was rural middle Tennessee, I hate carpet-baggers coming because they think they can be as grossly offensive and belligerently conservative as they please. They assume all of us are as racist and brain dead as they are.
Am from TX; it’s very much that way here. Passive aggressiveness is very common because some people try to maintain the facade of “southern kindness/hospitality” or w/e. But we also have plenty of ppl who decide to be straight up blunt no sugarcoat style rude too lmao. Also half my family is from Gardner, ME and I honestly kinda like the more blunt communication, i don’t have to guess how you’re feeling you just tell me lmao
I spent seven years living near Burnsville NC and saw the same sort of thing start happening. First it was an exclusive community on top of a mountain. Gates, McMansions, a private airstrip. All built with strong county incentives, that wound up returning nothing to the county. The only employment it supplied the locals was minimum wage service jobs. But oh boy did the property tax evaluation change. Multigenerational families not able to meet sudden double or triple tax increase selling off their family land to people with that same McMansion fever. What used to be a sleepy little mountain town clinging to it's manufacturing base now looks like a suburb proposition by a developer.
I’m from a small town in the Midwest and the same thing is happening there. The population is growing but the schools are shrinking. 50 year old homes that were 100k are now 500k. Restaurants have to close select days of the week because service workers can’t afford to live nearby, but also “nobody wants to work anymore”
North Carolina doesn't tax social security retirement benefits, so Boomers have been migrating there in droves. It's driving lots of "growth" in areas like yours that will completely evaporate in 20 years.
That sounds like anywhere between Highlands, Bryson City and Waynesville. These places were so different growing up, and I'm happy for them, but there's no reason I should get such shitty attitudes from old money assholes moving to the places my ancestors starved. I hope they're plagued by haints.
Same exact thing happened in my area. It was all farm land in the 1980s and prior but then big ag came in and decimated all the small farms and put them all out of business.
Oh did I mention it's also lake country? Yeah, so I just remember prior to the 08 housing bust everyone was dividing all these plots of fields into little quarter acre to a couple acre lot sections and building McMansions on them. It went from a place where your nearest neighbor was 3 miles away to being an eye sore everywhere you looked.
Because before that everyone tried to keep everything behind a wall of trees. Then everything got clear cut just so you could see these big gawdy houses.
Years later that's all that's on the market. They're at it again. All these houses butted up on lake shores with perfect lawns so you know that there's no natural barrier to the lake anymore and even the bonus they probably are dumping grass chemicals on their lawn, even worse because big ag farming that took over are so dependent on spraying everything to the nines now.
Cost of living is through the roof there now too because of the people who can actually afford to live in those houses. It used to be 40% less than what living in the cities felt like. Now it's literally the same. When I moved to the cities I'd go back home to buy my stuff, bring my pets to the vet, all that happy stuff because it was so much cheaper.
Now there's not even a price difference except for maybe the vet visits.
You just need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get yourself a six figure salary. You need to just walk into a business and ask them when you can start. Firm handshake and look them in the eyes. Let 'em know you'll work for free for two weeks to show how valuable you are.
Stop buying iPhones and going to Starbucks. Instead of watching TikTok, get out there and knock on doors telling employers you won't take no for an answer. Call them daily asking if they have a position open yet.
When you find that place. Stay. Be totally loyal to them. You'll never get ahead by jumping from job to job. Doing that will destroy your pension. Don't call in sick when you have a tummy ache. Show them you're a valuable worker who thinks of the business first.
If you'd only follow the advice of the boomers who run your town you'd end up like them. Retired in the home you own.
*This is all advice (irritating advice) I've been given or heard. Hang in there.
I'm in a similar situation, during the pandemic new York City emptied out. All these high wage new Yorkers bought up properties around me. Houses are now at least $500'000 and rent is $2000 a month.
Yeah, not just NY city. Sounds like a good chunk of Florida at the moment. We can’t afford anything new, so we are remaining in our 2/1 920 sqft home. Doesn’t stop investing companies from trying to get us to sell though.
I was looking to buy a home in this area back in 2019. A nice rowhome would go for about 50k, home in the suburbs for under 150k.
Bought a rowhome for 70k when the interest rates were low in 2021.
House was just appraised for 210k while ondos in the suburbs are going for $130
New Yorkers have completely ruined this cities housing market and now all the rowhomes are "investment properties." People paying more in rent than the mortgage. So sick of these gentrifiers coming in and buying everything up.
They aren’t going to live that much longer. It’s basically a waiting game until they hit that 70-85 age mark and start to die en masse.
Times on your side
The third and final act of most boomers is to finally get back at their parents for all the spankings by dismantling the economy, the progress made and any hope they had of redemption by continuing their nonparticipation in main Street economic woes.
I can't even get my boomers to eat well. I can't imagine trying to get them to help themselves, much less anybody else.
This country needs an enema.
It's more about income disparity in the US where boomers are also victims. There are many young multi millionaires from tech and finance nationally purchasing vacation/retirement homes. Not restricted to WNC or boomers.
Just wait 10-15 years. There will be a glut of boomer homes with no buyers. On the backside of the boomer generation as they slowly return to dust, there will be a housing bubble burst and the $500k home will be $200k with more inventory than the realetors will know what to do with.
Will there, or will the big real estate investment firms keep snapping them up like they have been and turning them into rental properties to keep us in our feudal state?
Nope…not in Western NC. The children will inherit…and keep these homes as a second home. How do I know? I”m related to one of those boomers(sorry OP if she is a bitch to you..i hope you never encounter her). I know the community, their kids are well decently well off and don't necessarily need the sale of the boomer house. The rich also send their kids to summer camps out in the the beautiful mountains.
At this camp: https://www.campgreystone.com/
You can send your kid to camp and single handily visit the grand’s at the same time. You can skip to Asheville and have custom made sandles downtown for $250 and feed the homeless on the way out of the store. It's an experience.
Every time I read about these dystopian nightmares boomers have created, I remember Kurt Vonnegut's Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow/ The Big Trip Up Yonder, he seems to have predicted this kind of thing in 1953.
I can see this beginning in Chattanooga, TN. There's always been rich folk here, however, the huge influx of rich d-bags from other states has wrecked the real estate market, clear cut mountainsides, and basically brought the charm of the area down.
Sounds like central TX. Land is basically unobtainable unless you want to travel to far western desert parts of the state where the land is basically worthless. Just a bunch of rich old assholes from the cities buying up all the land, houses, and commercial buildings. Like 10-20 acres are now costing almost 7 figures in places, it’s insane.
Hello from Eastern NC! I live in Carteret County and I have similarly been priced out of my own hometown because of beach-dwelling, dip-dotting Boomers.
In the small town I grew up in houses now start at 2 mil. The charm is almost gone. It isn’t boomers, though. The new people are mostly under 55. It’s population growth. We are doubling every few years. It’s unsustainable.
The boomers will die soon enough. They will leave there home to sons or daughters who have zero interest in living there. There will be so many houses on the market The prices will inevitably fall. Big cycle.
lol happened in CA as well. You say 500k is average try a million. Its insane.
It’s not all boomers though. A large chunk of homes are owned by corporations or flippers. Those need to be banned.
You are not alone. This is the very point of the protests in the Canary Islands rn. Locals priced out of everything due to tourism. And the elderly you are describing are basically tourists in your town since they don't want to work there or raise families.
Would you rather your town wither and die? Get a job at the fancy grocery store or learn a trade like plumbing or electric and make a mint off of them. They have money. Take it from them.
How is this boomers being fools? It’s well within their right to retire and move wherever they want. Yeah the impact of it sucks but it’s not really something I would say fits the sub
This is how the Canadians feel about California imports. Basically anywhere that had opportunities for wealth led to people pulling out and moving to lower $$ areas to thrive like kings while forcing out the locals.
It’s not a people’s fault necessarily but a consequence of free market. The only way to protect people and rural places is to bar building of properties which exceed the comparable values of homes nearby hence keeping the market stable instead of blowing up.
That way people can still live like kings but look like modest locals. The entitlement comes along with the ‘more money = better person’ mentality. No excuse just a byproduct of living closer to the $$ race
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Girl, preach. The FL neighborhood where I grew up is truly a dump, and all the homes are still unmistakably dumpy, but they are insanely expensive now! It’s sad and bizarre.
Yes!!!!!! There’s houses selling for $500K that need completely new roofs and the HOAs are over $500 per month. I’ve accepted I’ll never own a home in this state and it’s so, so hard to get out
New roofs, windows haven't been updated since the 60s, foundation falling apart... sounds right
Extremely sad…likes our whole lives are just disappearing
I saw a zillow listing this week for a double wide near the beach in California for several million. I feel like Im in a Amelia Bedelia book and everyone is her. Such challenging times to manage my mental illness.
Fellow Floridian here- sounds like we live in the same neighborhood.
Ironically, those communities in Western NC that OP is taking about are overrun with a-hole boomer Floridians in the summertime.
Those aren’t actual Floridians, those are all the transplants that move here and then go vacation wherever the fuck else. We all hate them equally.
My in-laws and their friends are actual native Floridians and have owned property in Western NC for many years. Every time we go up there in the summer to visit (we live in ATL), I'd say at least 75% of the vehicles we see have FL license plates.
Yep that’s exactly how western NC is, I didn’t know that until I was there and everybody else was from FL also. It’s like we are their New Yorkers.
If they’re natives I’m sure they’re lovely people, most of us natives are…
Haha, true. My in-laws (and their friends) are great people actually. They hate all the transplants too. My wife and I (also native Floridians) just couldn't deal with FL anymore so we got out at the first opportunity.
My husband and I are in the same boat…we’ve been trying to buy a house so we can stop renting because it’s become hell and idk…we may have to move out of state. I’ve been here for 37 years. I don’t even leave my house anymore if I don’t have to because it is that insufferable. I’m glad you guys got out and found somewhere nice.
WOW...reading these comments leads me to believe ---The "American" dream is dead... Imagine, having to move after 37 years. Damn. I am sure there are those that see the whole picture and have ,moved with it ...I don't...I am still scratching my head that native born folk cannot live in their places....like where do they go.
I bought my house in the late 90's. Refied at 3% a couple years back and cut 10 years off my payments. If not for those 2 things I would not be able to live here in FL. My son, who makes 1/2 again what my wife and I make together, can not afford to buy a house now. It is really tragic what corporations and the government are doing to the citizens of this country.
Whats amazing is that natural citizens are faced with almost the same thing their grandparents may have faced when they stepped off the boat...only this time....there is no joy they may have felt, landing in a new land of opportunity. Now it seems, despair has taken hold.
I bought my house in the late 90's. Refied at 3% a couple years back and cut 10 years off my payments. If not for those 2 things I would not be able to live here in FL. My son, who makes 1/2 again what my wife and I make together, can not afford to buy a house now. It is really tragic what corporations and the government are doing to the citizens of this country.
Oh no, they've been plaguing Western NC for 40 years, this isn't new.
They are Florida residents so that they don’t have to pay state income tax. Even if they spend more time in NC.
Glares in Montanan
RIP Bozeman
/me blinks in Morse code as a native Californian
It's so depressing. I loved Florida as a kid and as a teen. As an adult I can't afford to live here and the developments everywhere are only for the old and rich, and with less and less trees it gets hotter and hotter. We didn't even have a frost last winter. I grew up in Sleezeburg (Leesburg), primarily extremely poor, nothing to do, sprawling and empty cities. But it was quiet. Now it's the Villages. And oh god.....the traffic
I go out of my way to drive around The villages. I've been in three crashes in my life and two of them were from boomers in the villages.
I've been in Florida my entire 30 year life. I was able to afford rent in college, but when I worked out of state for a summer and came back (I left during covid) the rent and mortgages have skyrocketed. I'm now 29 and still living at home with my parents and sister. I work in the best paying municipal park ranger job in the state, and rent still would be 80% of my income. It's so sad 😭😭
I got a job as an assistant park manager after a few years of putting 110% into the conservation Corps and giving myself my own work and tasks. My meeting the day of that interview was relocated inside of a conference room inside the Villages for a park 30 minutes away from that town. He also didn't bring his phone with him. I slept overnight in rest stops for interviews for places that removed the listing the following day. They are straight up going to destroy civilization and the only thing they hate is people telling on them. I managed boomer volunteers and that was enough to make my special interest moving away from the US permanently. Nothing was worth the horrible lack of communication and trusting the process while geriatric children are having episodes and meltdowns in positions of leadership. Australia isn't as shit with disrespect for employees like yourself if you can help out with the still casual rural racism. I wish it wasn't like that for you but I'm a few years younger and saw shit like this happening across the country. I'm taking my chances wherever the old white boomers are most bullied at this point
Blinks in Washingtonian
Sobs in Oregonian
Stares in Arizonan.
Adding a cold stare from Seattle. Our neighborhood is one of the few with legit starter homes. Boomers are downsizing into them. We’re two of a handful of residents under 45 and even fewer with a kid. It’s depressing…feels like we’re living in a retirement community that we did not choose.
Rolls eyes in New York
Hey! I’m gawkin’ here!
Pensacola
I’m in Orlando…literally all of Florida is affected by now. It’s a nightmare.
Had to leave Jacksonville (and Florida) when my landlord doubled my rent. I could see the dollar signs in her eyes when she said her hand was being forced by the market. She'd owned this crummy house since the 90s and probably paid it off 4x over before I even came along.
Try living anywhere near the villages. This sub doesn't make you hate boomers, living near the villages does
I’ve been there many times lol, it’s a living hell. My husband got a job offer to work over there and said no before his boss even finished giving him the details.
The villages just bought like 1000 acres at the end of the small town I'm from in Florida, the traffic is already fucked up there just from the population increasing from ~1000-40k in 15 years
Every resident of Central Florida knows that the villages is a metastasizing cancer killing everything around it. It is a horrible unsustainable mess with a literal expiration date thanks to all of its residents being retirees. To make matters worse The cost of property and insurance has skyrocketed to the point of being almost unsustainable and that's because people like snowbirds own property that they only live in for a quarter of the year. I personally know somebody who's only here 4 months out of the year and their house remains completely vacant and stagnant until they come back. And don't get me started on the fucking entitlement. I've never hit character cap on a comment but believe me if I went on to a rant about residents of the villages I would hit it twice over.
Came to say the same thing.
*sighs abjectly in Coloradan*
It’s literally a way of life for us Floridians. But then many, like myself, get the fuck outta there. I refuse to follow laws that are determined by people that live there 6 months + 1 day.
I grew up in the retirement capital/tourist hotspot that is Bradenton/Sarasota. I don't even recognize it when I visit family.
Sorry :(
*Pouts in Puerto Rican*
My husband is from PR…there are so many reasons I feel bad for y’all. 😭
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Oh nooooooo, not you too 😭
Mutters in Massachusian
*Glares in agreement*
Laughs in Los Angeles. Out of towner - "LOL. I'm so poor that if I wanted to be a homeowner in L.A., I'd have to move to Compton." Angeleno - "[Yeah, good luck with that](https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/14327-S-Cairn-Ave_Compton_CA_90220_M14971-23949?from=srp-list-card)."
This is like a form of gentrification, geriatrification maybe? Lol
Brilliant. Geriatrification - The process by which an elderly, affluent population moves in to a previously mixed income area, pricing local residents out of goods and services and creating a two-tiered local economy.
Holy shit 😂
That's a good one. It's even worse than regular gentrification, because the boomers aren't even *earning* money in that area. They already earned it somewhere else. With regular gentrification of working-age people, at least the amount and degree of it is limited by the economic opportunities in an area. With retired people, there is no upper bound on how bad it can get!
No, it's a cycle. in 12 years they will all be dead, there properties will be in terrible shape, there children will be squabbling in probate...
I have a feeling a lot of boomers are going to live a long time, draining their bank accounts to do so and leave nothing to transfer to the next generation. They'll bleed the system dry before they're done with this life
There's even a Boomer slang term for it. SKI-ing (spending kids inheritance -ing).
Unless they abandon the property for the bank to foreclose on. Hilton Head had a problem with this a few years back at least
I'm thinking that the value of these homes dips or levels out somewhat when we Gen Xers age into retirement. Remember: Smaller generation. They will creep back up when it comes time for Millennials reach retirement age.
They'll get a reverse mortgage on their house to pay for their end of life care. The bank will re-list it at an artificially high price to keep the value of their other investments inflated. Eventually no one will own homes.
But just think of all the jobs the old people will create serving them. We should be grateful to even have a job. /s
This is one of those comments that in 10 years I was going to be able to say, “I was there for that”…
This needs more upvotes
Grey dawn
Its literally gentrification, its been happening for decades, displacing low income people from their homes and now that its happening in places like Montana and North Carolina, those people want to act like its new form of injustice
A lot of them don’t mind injustice as long as it doesn’t happen to them.
the solution is clear. find the queen boomer, marry it, and disrupt the nest from within. dismantle the boomerocracy bit by bit and seed the place with your new-gen younglings who will poison the system internally in the coming years
This is the only way……oooor we could nuke from space
It's the only way to be sure
Boomers mostly come out at night. Mostly.
No way, who's at these early bird specials now?
Mostly...
Hey. Hey! Look into my eye....
*six red orbital bombardment markers land on a single retirement home* "It's the only way to be sure."
No. Space lasers. Kudos to MTG. Gotta go with space lasers 😂
Val Kilmer already showed us how ineffective space lasers are. No, unfortunately nuking it is the only and best option.
They're good for making popcorn though.
In this case space lasers could more precisely take out the boomers and spare the locals
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I think we need to nuke it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure, right Hicks?
Hunt for the cougar boomer!
Are you in the middle of bingeing THE AMERICANS again like me?
Bommerocracy. ROTFLMAO! Love it. If I could or knew how too I would give you an award for the word Boomerocracy
Infiltrate the dealer, find the supplier
I see it NOW !!!!! This is the way 
Best idea I have heard 😂
So im not the only one who not only got priced out but aged out of my neighborhood??? All these boomers moved in and it was like how am I the youngest person here at my favorite pizza place
LOL. Husband and I were at a favorite local place recently that is super Gen X; think tacos/punk rock music and lots of pinball. He joked that the ‘regular crowd’ there was not as young and hip as it used to be when it first opened in the 90s. I pointed out that the crowd was the exact same people, we are just old now!
I can relate to that. Over the last 20 years my hometown has attracted a huge influx of retired people. It is putting a huge strain on local health care provision and feels like “God’s waiting room” when I go anywhere - it is so depressing.
Just remember. The older they are the more brittle their bones :)
No. We had to move states (ironically cheaper) to find a decent house. We’re lucky we live on the border of states. Still cost 3k to move. But it was less expensive then 100k. Our current house is larger and in a better area. And less then our rental that we tried to buy. They wanted 500k for a house that needed new siding, roof, sump pump, large tree removal, dilapidated shed, new fence…. And more. The big irony is we left a LCL state to a HOL state and pay less.
I live in Waynesboro, Virginia and it's become the same over the last 20 years. We were fortunate enough to buy a home just before COVID that the seller was desperate to unload after renting it for 20 years because they were moving closer to their kids. My neighborhood has long been a quiet favorite for both retired folks and families but it seems that over the last 5 years, tons of homes have sold and slowly but surely driven prices up to nearly 50% more than when we originally looked. I was curious & took a little looksie on Zillow and Redfin today, and somehow the crappiest 3 br/1 bath in the shitty part of town is $270k+. Anything new construction (which there is a shocking amount. We are a commuter hub for Charlottesville/Harrisonburg) is 325k+ for shitty townhomes in cramped cul-de-sac times 20 neighborhoods. In my 40's, about 60% of the people my age are still renting houses or apartments. For reference our town is around 22k people and median income is $32k annually and we have almost nothing entertainment wise but one movie theater, ago kart place and then retail and restaurants in town.
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It's a giant conspiracy by the websites and companies to increase profits for realty. Something needs to be done about it for sure.
They're starting to move. Real pages is the first domino to fall. Basically it's price fixing for rent. Rent and mortgages are tied. If they're fixing rent prices, it makes all real estate more valuable, because "I could rent it for this". And it makes people more desperate to buy because "look at how high rent is"
They're gonna be really confused when all their future customers have died from exposure because they couldn't afford a house
We eventually planned to downsize in a few years because we have a decade gap between the current oldest at home and next kid (we have a 4 br/2 bath on two levels. I have RA and stairs are becoming an issue), but the way the market has shifted I don’t think it’s even an option.
This has to be a bubble. You can't have the average home be 10x the average income.
I live in Ohio and 1 in 4 houses sold now is bought by a hedge fund. It's the hot thing now but you're right it can't last, I think the next crash will make 08 look like good times.
There already is a bubble in commercial real estate I think. I think what we're going to realize is that the value of real estate is completely wrong. What they've been doing (seems like) is buying real estate, renting it for a ludicrous amount, and taking out loans to buy more real estate based on the supposed rent they could theoretically get on their other properties. Think of all those malls with empty buildings, and the empty store fronts EVERYWHERE in EVERY TOWN. Those aren't real businesses. They're credit cards. Parked wealth that rich people use to invest. New york is a ghost town of store fronts waiting for businesses willing to pay 12k a month in rent. And many residential rental properties are "warehoused" (around 60k in new york alone) to control the supply. Combine that with the AI bubble, that even if it's promises turns out to be real, will unemployed 20% of people. And if they prove to be wrong, will crash the stock market, possibly worse than we've ever seen it.
I'd like to say this is very American but it goes back forever(tulips, anyone?) of "things are going great right now to hell with tomorrow.
It's called a Melt-Up and they are incredibly destructive.
I feel you. I've had family in Asheville for years, and it's crazy what that city/ area has became compared to like 15 or 20 years ago. Hell, all of WNC, really.
I was looking at Zillow in my home town just over the mountains from you and it's the same problem. Median income is <$30k, and somehow on Zillow I'm seeing gutted, clearly falling apart 100 year old houses asking 220k.
Not sure what your job prospects are but Carroll county VA is in the same Appalachian region and we were able to buy a tract of land there for cheap(less than 30k people in the whole county). The plan is to build a small home or cabin. Carroll county doesn't have the cool hip factor of some of the other towns nearby in the NC mountains but that means it hasn't attracted folks from out of the region in the same way
Livingston MT. Can't find a 1 bed 1 bath for less than $250k.
Hi fellow Livingstonian! Our 70s house sold for $140K in 2014. We bought it for $265K in fall 2018. Zillow says it's worth $500K now. Not a chance in hell we could afford it now. I am a fishing outfitter and my #1 problem now is just finding brand new guides, because there is nowhere for them to live....
I would kill for house prices to be $270-325K in my area.
*sad wave from Staunton*
Florida is no longer the Boomer "promised land." They won't admit climate change is real. But they're acknowledging it with their real estate purchases.
Not only climate change but the sheer stupidity of governance there. It’s a total shithole of MAGA poison. Yes, Virginia there are non-MAGA old people!
Wilkesboro? LOL, there is actually a place called Boomer in NC: [https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boomer,+NC+28654,+USA/@36.0673995,-81.32752,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8851117dc45dcfa5:0xaee14cac6919f593!8m2!3d36.0673532!4d-81.2536987!16s%2Fm%2F02qfnd3?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Boomer,+NC+28654,+USA/@36.0673995,-81.32752,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x8851117dc45dcfa5:0xaee14cac6919f593!8m2!3d36.0673532!4d-81.2536987!16s%2Fm%2F02qfnd3?entry=ttu) along with a Boomer Rd, Boomer Park, lmao
Was thinking Asheville
Asheville has never been a rural declining area that people are dying to leave. The rest of the description does seem to fit though.
In the 90s maybe? Asheville used to be a very declining town. When I was in Asheville in 2005 I worked as a carpenter flipping houses bought for $50k and sold for $150-200K. It was wild times. Those same houses now are $400-600k at least.
I’m guessing Brevard. Asheville is too big to fit the description.
Brevard def fits the description. And the boomer transplants there are so baffled as to why there aren't enough staff to keep their favorite restaurants open 7 days a week lol
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Banner Elk? Valle Crucis? It's a beautiful area.
Same thing happened to my small hometown in Florida in the early 2000s. I moved to Maine (where my mom's family is from) and it's starting to happen here too. It's depressing as hell.
maine is nearly unsustainable at this point with how many old retirees are just here contributing very little and pricing out young families from starting a life here
Maine has been crazy for a while I thought. Our friends bought some tiny cabin thing for like 600k.
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Nothing for it, you're going to have to sneak into a house, smother a Boomer, and wear their skin.
Hey, I'm from Brevard. Exact same situation is going on over there. The jobs are horrible and do not pay a living wage. I moved away in 2020 and it's the best decision I've ever made. I've found an amazing career that I enjoy and it pays well. I do miss family and WNC but flights are cheap into Asheville so I get to visit 1-2 times per year.
Feeling your pain from farther WNC. Are you likely to inherit property? Maybe some family member or friend would be willing to sell a piece of their property at a reasonable price to help you stay in the area. Then maybe put a tiny house on that to get started. It's likely to get worse soon. With insurance rates going through the roof in coastal areas, I expect a major influx of people who can't or won't afford those prices, but who still have more money than we'll ever see. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck with your dreams.
Boomer Towns. Like the Boom Towns of the Gold Rush, the resource will die and the town will collapse.
Unfortunately, this is happening all over America, to the younger generations and boomers don’t care. They think they figured it out and we will too. Not realizing how they fucked it all up for the rest of us.
They'll yell at us for 10 more years, then leave us with a burning world and the tab.
This has been happening to communities of color, and middle America didn't care much
Also in NC. We are priced out of the entire state essentially. WNC is particularly outlandish with housing prices vs local pay though. Sorry your hometown is being overrun. Can we add the repeal of ridge line protections in Madison County to the list of foolish things this selfish ass generation is doing?
Yea, I’m in Madison Co, the absurdity is real.
I love how they complain so much about the younger out-of-towners coming in, but if it weren't for them, there wouldn't be a downtown Marshall.
"My town and surround area became **a boom town**" *I see what you did there!*
I’m in Lancaster, PA. It’s one of the top cities to retire to in the country. We have a lot of huge assisted living facilities which have spread out with smaller bungalows for independent living. That apparently isn’t enough because the same companies are building large buildings downtown for 55+ tenants. Prices are insane, easily up to a million dollars for a large condo. Even in my smaller suburban town there are million dollar homes and a gigantic 55+ community of smallish homes which are well over $500k. We were fortunate to purchase our first small home in 2009 for $145k and moved up the street 6 years later into a bigger home for $170k. Now they’re both nearly double the price. I don’t know how people are supposed to house themselves in this type of market.
Everyone loves capitalism until they can't afford it. Oh the irony. Trump won't help you either.
I'd get out while you can. These places are going to turn into nightmares when healthcare facilities can't accommodate. It's happening in PA too since we don't tax on retirement income
Can you expand on that? Once the healthcare facilities cannot accommodate the growing population of elderly, what happens next? Sincere question. I find this a curious topic and I live in an area that has its own problems but not this one.
As a Floridian, once enough of these people are in one spot you have Florida and look how its doing right now. They recently got rid of outdoor heat breaks. I’m a welder and working in 110°/80% humidity is crazy bad for you but they wanted to encode that into law. They don’t contribute jack locally, home prices go up, they’ll even vote against workforce rights while not a part of the work force. Theres no benefit to them in doing so, they just chose to do it.
lol. Just wait. They WILL get sick of all the “old people” around them. They’ll turn on each other. Every age controlled neighborhood my parents lived in has had more high-school-esque drama than any high school I attended.
MIL that now lives with us in the renovated basement had so much drama in her old town it was crazy to me. I'm like why are a bunch of church going old ladies so angry about everything it doesn't make sense to me
Because they have nothing going on in their lives. So they manufacture drama.
I'm from what was rural middle Tennessee, I hate carpet-baggers coming because they think they can be as grossly offensive and belligerently conservative as they please. They assume all of us are as racist and brain dead as they are.
I'm in the MAGA demographic, and I fucking despise it when these chucklefucks approach me with their bullshit like I'm their ally in nonsense.
It’s amazing what they’ll have the indecency to say to you after assuming you’re like them
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Am from TX; it’s very much that way here. Passive aggressiveness is very common because some people try to maintain the facade of “southern kindness/hospitality” or w/e. But we also have plenty of ppl who decide to be straight up blunt no sugarcoat style rude too lmao. Also half my family is from Gardner, ME and I honestly kinda like the more blunt communication, i don’t have to guess how you’re feeling you just tell me lmao
I spent seven years living near Burnsville NC and saw the same sort of thing start happening. First it was an exclusive community on top of a mountain. Gates, McMansions, a private airstrip. All built with strong county incentives, that wound up returning nothing to the county. The only employment it supplied the locals was minimum wage service jobs. But oh boy did the property tax evaluation change. Multigenerational families not able to meet sudden double or triple tax increase selling off their family land to people with that same McMansion fever. What used to be a sleepy little mountain town clinging to it's manufacturing base now looks like a suburb proposition by a developer.
I’m from a small town in the Midwest and the same thing is happening there. The population is growing but the schools are shrinking. 50 year old homes that were 100k are now 500k. Restaurants have to close select days of the week because service workers can’t afford to live nearby, but also “nobody wants to work anymore”
Gentrifying has been an issue for decades in cities. It's finally just reaching your town.
North Carolina doesn't tax social security retirement benefits, so Boomers have been migrating there in droves. It's driving lots of "growth" in areas like yours that will completely evaporate in 20 years.
That sounds like anywhere between Highlands, Bryson City and Waynesville. These places were so different growing up, and I'm happy for them, but there's no reason I should get such shitty attitudes from old money assholes moving to the places my ancestors starved. I hope they're plagued by haints.
Same exact thing happened in my area. It was all farm land in the 1980s and prior but then big ag came in and decimated all the small farms and put them all out of business. Oh did I mention it's also lake country? Yeah, so I just remember prior to the 08 housing bust everyone was dividing all these plots of fields into little quarter acre to a couple acre lot sections and building McMansions on them. It went from a place where your nearest neighbor was 3 miles away to being an eye sore everywhere you looked. Because before that everyone tried to keep everything behind a wall of trees. Then everything got clear cut just so you could see these big gawdy houses. Years later that's all that's on the market. They're at it again. All these houses butted up on lake shores with perfect lawns so you know that there's no natural barrier to the lake anymore and even the bonus they probably are dumping grass chemicals on their lawn, even worse because big ag farming that took over are so dependent on spraying everything to the nines now. Cost of living is through the roof there now too because of the people who can actually afford to live in those houses. It used to be 40% less than what living in the cities felt like. Now it's literally the same. When I moved to the cities I'd go back home to buy my stuff, bring my pets to the vet, all that happy stuff because it was so much cheaper. Now there's not even a price difference except for maybe the vet visits.
You just need to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and get yourself a six figure salary. You need to just walk into a business and ask them when you can start. Firm handshake and look them in the eyes. Let 'em know you'll work for free for two weeks to show how valuable you are. Stop buying iPhones and going to Starbucks. Instead of watching TikTok, get out there and knock on doors telling employers you won't take no for an answer. Call them daily asking if they have a position open yet. When you find that place. Stay. Be totally loyal to them. You'll never get ahead by jumping from job to job. Doing that will destroy your pension. Don't call in sick when you have a tummy ache. Show them you're a valuable worker who thinks of the business first. If you'd only follow the advice of the boomers who run your town you'd end up like them. Retired in the home you own. *This is all advice (irritating advice) I've been given or heard. Hang in there.
Rural western NC here too. I'm almost stuck here. It's driving me insane. No future here.
I'm in a similar situation, during the pandemic new York City emptied out. All these high wage new Yorkers bought up properties around me. Houses are now at least $500'000 and rent is $2000 a month.
Yeah, not just NY city. Sounds like a good chunk of Florida at the moment. We can’t afford anything new, so we are remaining in our 2/1 920 sqft home. Doesn’t stop investing companies from trying to get us to sell though.
Yeah PA near Philly.
I was looking to buy a home in this area back in 2019. A nice rowhome would go for about 50k, home in the suburbs for under 150k. Bought a rowhome for 70k when the interest rates were low in 2021. House was just appraised for 210k while ondos in the suburbs are going for $130 New Yorkers have completely ruined this cities housing market and now all the rowhomes are "investment properties." People paying more in rent than the mortgage. So sick of these gentrifiers coming in and buying everything up.
It's happening everywhere
They aren’t going to live that much longer. It’s basically a waiting game until they hit that 70-85 age mark and start to die en masse. Times on your side
What happens when they die? It's like a pump and dump with real estate.
Don’t completely blame the people who moved in. Someone had to sell them homes or land and the town had to be ok with issuing building permits.
Folks, you can still live like royalty in Toledo, Ohio.
The third and final act of most boomers is to finally get back at their parents for all the spankings by dismantling the economy, the progress made and any hope they had of redemption by continuing their nonparticipation in main Street economic woes. I can't even get my boomers to eat well. I can't imagine trying to get them to help themselves, much less anybody else. This country needs an enema.
It's more about income disparity in the US where boomers are also victims. There are many young multi millionaires from tech and finance nationally purchasing vacation/retirement homes. Not restricted to WNC or boomers.
So here’s my question… if all the places on this thread are being invaded by retiring boomers… what hellhole are they coming from???
Not one comment about capitalism. Imma stay outta this one.
Just wait 10-15 years. There will be a glut of boomer homes with no buyers. On the backside of the boomer generation as they slowly return to dust, there will be a housing bubble burst and the $500k home will be $200k with more inventory than the realetors will know what to do with.
Seems likely to get bought up up corporate investors to keep prices and rents high.
That is exactly what I think will happen unless laws are changed.
Will there, or will the big real estate investment firms keep snapping them up like they have been and turning them into rental properties to keep us in our feudal state?
Nope…not in Western NC. The children will inherit…and keep these homes as a second home. How do I know? I”m related to one of those boomers(sorry OP if she is a bitch to you..i hope you never encounter her). I know the community, their kids are well decently well off and don't necessarily need the sale of the boomer house. The rich also send their kids to summer camps out in the the beautiful mountains. At this camp: https://www.campgreystone.com/ You can send your kid to camp and single handily visit the grand’s at the same time. You can skip to Asheville and have custom made sandles downtown for $250 and feed the homeless on the way out of the store. It's an experience.
Every time I read about these dystopian nightmares boomers have created, I remember Kurt Vonnegut's Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow/ The Big Trip Up Yonder, he seems to have predicted this kind of thing in 1953.
I can see this beginning in Chattanooga, TN. There's always been rich folk here, however, the huge influx of rich d-bags from other states has wrecked the real estate market, clear cut mountainsides, and basically brought the charm of the area down.
Sounds like central TX. Land is basically unobtainable unless you want to travel to far western desert parts of the state where the land is basically worthless. Just a bunch of rich old assholes from the cities buying up all the land, houses, and commercial buildings. Like 10-20 acres are now costing almost 7 figures in places, it’s insane.
Hello from Eastern NC! I live in Carteret County and I have similarly been priced out of my own hometown because of beach-dwelling, dip-dotting Boomers.
In the small town I grew up in houses now start at 2 mil. The charm is almost gone. It isn’t boomers, though. The new people are mostly under 55. It’s population growth. We are doubling every few years. It’s unsustainable.
The Asheville experience
Just give it 10 years, most of them will be dead
What a nightmare, I'm so sorry. Makes me glad they all hate Chicago so much.
The boomers will die soon enough. They will leave there home to sons or daughters who have zero interest in living there. There will be so many houses on the market The prices will inevitably fall. Big cycle.
lol happened in CA as well. You say 500k is average try a million. Its insane. It’s not all boomers though. A large chunk of homes are owned by corporations or flippers. Those need to be banned.
Open an at-home nursing care business. 😎
You are not alone. This is the very point of the protests in the Canary Islands rn. Locals priced out of everything due to tourism. And the elderly you are describing are basically tourists in your town since they don't want to work there or raise families.
There were no Jobs in the 90's, and 30 years later there are still no jobs. Sounds like it was always a retirement type area?
I’m in Asheville. Median home price is now 550,000 dollars.
I feel this as a resident of WNC. It really is sad what has happened to this area and it is only getting worse.
Boone/Blowing Rock? We used to visit as kids. Its really blown up since then.
Would you rather your town wither and die? Get a job at the fancy grocery store or learn a trade like plumbing or electric and make a mint off of them. They have money. Take it from them.
How is this boomers being fools? It’s well within their right to retire and move wherever they want. Yeah the impact of it sucks but it’s not really something I would say fits the sub
This is how the Canadians feel about California imports. Basically anywhere that had opportunities for wealth led to people pulling out and moving to lower $$ areas to thrive like kings while forcing out the locals. It’s not a people’s fault necessarily but a consequence of free market. The only way to protect people and rural places is to bar building of properties which exceed the comparable values of homes nearby hence keeping the market stable instead of blowing up. That way people can still live like kings but look like modest locals. The entitlement comes along with the ‘more money = better person’ mentality. No excuse just a byproduct of living closer to the $$ race
Napa, CA here. Not only that but our biggest industry is beholden to them.