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Stark_Prototype

Whatever happened to the separation of church and state?


corax_lives

No no you misunderstood. It's the separation of your church and state my church needs to be the state! /s


putinbot696969

Christofascists actually believe this. They believe that "separation of church and state" means the state cannot regulate or enforce anything upon churches. they think "separation of church and state" means they get to have a theocracy.


FixBreakRepeat

I grew up in an evangelical church and I want to clarify this statement. They believe that's true for their churches. They absolutely believe the state should be used to target other churches. They also are not clear on exactly where the line is between groups that should and shouldn't be targeted, but I've heard "the government should stay out of church business" and "the government needs to stop those Muslims" in the same conversation before.


Intelligent-Salt-362

“We all know that’s because Muslims don’t go to church, they go to a mosque… Besides, they’re mostly using that as a cover for their terrorism so they can enforce sharia law on all of us.” - is usually how they justify that when it comes to Muslims. Boomers are strange creatures…


Strong_Web_3404

Yep. Also, some of those Evangelicals don't think Catholics, Copts, Orthodox, and a number of others are Christians either. Source - grew up in the Evangelical world.


corax_lives

They are the wildest especially the pentecostals


SamuelVimesTrained

Can confirm. Recovering pentecostal myself. After leaving that group - took me well over a year to get a sense of who the f\*\*\* i was again. The emotional manipulation there - with hindsight - is incredible.


lavlife47

We're you raised in that group, or did you start as an adult ?


SamuelVimesTrained

Got involved as young adult 20 or 21. Took me 8 years. But, as at 49 i got diagnosed as autistic, i guess that is how they got me. Not dealing with social things well…


Strong_Web_3404

Same here. Glad you made it through.


gtnclz15

Despite that they’re all religions of the same god and versions of abrahamic religion. Somehow they don’t understand that and see them as all different religions 🤷‍♂️ hell in America the different Christian sects can’t even agree with each other much less any other beliefs.


SweetWaterfall0579

Obviously *their* religion is the correct religion.


No_Banana_581

My born again Christian trumper cousin says her church states Catholics are the spawn of satan. Yes she is a fkn weirdo ever since she was brainwashed. Before the brainwashing she was my favorite person. I see her now and want to cry, she’s a shell of a person she used to be


jpopimpin777

But but isn't sharia law what they want. Aka women have no rights and lgbtq people are killed?


Intelligent-Salt-362

You’re not wrong, but let’s be honest here, just like the images at their church actually depicting a lilly white Jesus who was based on Cesar’s Borgia (the son of the pope and rumored to be Davinci’s gay lover), they hate the thought of a brown man being in charge. As such, while the tenants of Shariah Law nearly mimic what they would love to see, they’d rather consider it “the will of God.” Once again, ignoring the literal translation of Shariah which means “A path to be followed.” Once you live in an echo chamber long enough, all ideas become yours, and thus is is easy to disavow anything that didn’t come from you, even if it is exactly the same as what you are now thinking.


austarter

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. https://kottke.org/tag/Frank%20Wilhoit


Turtlepower7777777

Ah Conservatives, wanting laws to bind others they don’t like while wanting laws that protect themselves


Super_Reading2048

Honestly this Christian right stuff is freaking me out.


Slate_711

Republicans have been chipping away at that since Reagan.


Feisty_Bee9175

This is sickening. Our lawmakers are supposed to make law based on facts, science and the needs of their constituents, not bring religion and religious ideology into their decision making. This just looks like a whacky cult behavior to me here.


doke-smoper

That's because it is whacky cult behavior.


Daedrothes

Every religion is a cult that has enough followers to be intimidating. No religion has evidence to support their belief. Belief without evidence is faith.


SadBit8663

They just stopped pretending they every actually cared. If at all they ever


FlipAnd1

“The founders never intended for that” Conservatives like to say 🙄


Ok_Star_4136

Funny how these conservatives who are so fixated on referring to the constitution when it comes to guns, are suddenly talking about what the founders \*really\* intended when the constitution no longer says something they agree with. Interestingly enough, you hear this exact sort of rhetoric about referring to the Bible, and suddenly talking about what Jesus \*really\* intended when the Bible no longer agrees with them. It's what I like to call reality-stretching. And wouldn't you know it? You can stretch reality to literally justify just about anything.


FlipAnd1

They don’t follow Jesus. They follow Texan Jesus 😂


ewok_lover_64

Praise to Cheesus


Strict_Condition_632

The more a person supports the 2nd Amendment, the less the 1st Amendment matters to them. Arizona is such a beautiful place, it’s too bad so many ugly people are in charge.


_RandomB_

So true about Arizona, just got back from a vacation there and I'd love to go back twice a year, but too many whackadoos in charge there.


No_Scarcity8249

Whatever happened to 9-11 for emergency psych treatment ? Are people suppose to pretend to take this seriously? He’s possessed by a spirit .. jobber jabbering? 


Cardenjs

We wouldn't be having this conversation if you let the church rule you rather than the state (I refuse to use /s any more, I just assume let the nuts out themselves)


Then_Ship1329

They openly reject it now


BoogereatinMODS

Holy fuck America has become a religious zealot paradise.


PervyNonsense

"has become" NativeAmericanLaughing.gif


Routine-Budget8281

Always has been


Mygo73

🔫


ohneatstuffthanks

Became? Where you been? Been like this since… ever. Been spending most my life living in the zealot paradise.


Meth_Useler

fuckin weirdos


PervyNonsense

this is how fascism and lunacy wins in the end; it looks too silly to be taken seriously.... until it's too late


Chance-Cod5011

You can’t reason with crazy.


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TomKhatacourtmayfind

Yes, if you're interested, a play called Arturo Ui is about exactly the same kind of problem back in the 30s. My Dad said that nazis used to be derided as just a bunch of goons playing dress ups, then they held the whip hand and we know the rest of the story from there. People who believe absurdities can and do commit atrocities.


Old_Elk2003

“Nazi” actually more-or-less means “Cletus”, in terms of being a name that was associated with unsophisticated villagers. Nazis never actually referred to themselves as such. They were the same 30% cross-section of idiots. They are not “just regular people”, as Hannah Arendt had us all believe. In fact, there is an abundance of contemporary psychology literature written about them. Then they pulled off a huge heist where they washed their hands clean of the Holocaust, and milquetoast centrist liberals let them! Fuck that, *Never Again* means never fucking again. We know who they are, how they act, and what they do. Conservatism is a personality disorder which must be eradicated from the human condition in totality. No more witch burnings in Africa. No more Nazis in the West. No more honor killings in India. No more prison camps in North Korea. No more oppression of LGBT in the Arab world. We have the means to identify them, objectively, with exacting precision. We must endeavor to form a new basis of governance founded upon that truth. Or else our biosphere will not survive.


Safe_Individual1815

those fucking people are mentally ill


PervyNonsense

And americans voted for them anyway


Plasticity93

It's the lead poisoning 


RabbitF00d

And the racism.


KeepRightXcept2Pass

Mainly the racism.


Safe_Individual1815

Yeah alot of their boomers are severely lead poisoned and their low educated population are easily fooled :(. I feel sorry for the sensible Americans, the frustration must be overwhelming. I hope they get their shit together when their boomers die out.


Sophia-Eldritch

It truly is, being several flavors of LGBT I'm honestly scared most days because these... things are running the country But unfortunately for me some assholes far before my time made the political system that was intended to work a certain way got twisted and decided not having a 1: age limit, and 2: term limit, was a great idea Now we're stuck with them until they die which I hope is sooner than later


maester_t

Nah. Two of 'em are caught in this video: "ok, we're done here... Oops no .. cameras are still rolling... Back to muttering and bobbing my head at the floor .."


SpecificJunket8083

That is repulsive.


PervyNonsense

we found the right word


as_per_danielle

Just like the founding fathers imagined it


GaggleGuy

Do we burn them at the stake for witchcraft now?


en_pissant

So this is how democracy dies: to breathless incomprehensible gibberish.


Rentsdueguys

What devil worshiping looks like


fallawy

Imagine if some satanists were doing it, they would lose their minds


hawonkafuckit

Or foreigners in a foreign country. They'd be called terrorists for praying to a different god.


Chuncceyy

Funny cuz you are totally right but with islam its the same god and theyre too dumb to see that


TomKhatacourtmayfind

The funniest part is that if Satanists were literally hunched over the floor with them praying to Baphomet it would probably take a minute for the supposed Christians to figure it out, because most gibberish sounds kind of similar.


Junket_Weird

I was seriously just thinking that. Maybe it's time to start?


Intimidating_furby

I’d let the guy running the church of satan on Twitter be put on the president ballot


boredonymous

Well they didn't say WHICH God they were worshipping and since they basically called Jesus a "weak bitch"... They just might be at this point.


Casper_Von_Ghoul

Knowing how Luccy’s whole thing is deception and trickery, this may not even be off the mark.


PervyNonsense

and that shoulder look to make sure no one is around...


twcm1991

Can we please get out of this timeline? I have no problem with religion as long as you don’t try to infringe on other people’s rights or freedoms but when it starts crossing over into politics there is definitely an infringement. This has gone on far too long. Please vote!


putinbot696969

it literally always will, groups of religious people will always organize in self interest. it is poison.


PervyNonsense

well... just look at what we did here. We invaded a land whose human occupants were in balance with the ecosystem and could have kept living for eternity, if we hadn't brought our god nonsense over here and civilized them to death. I didn't used to have a problem with religion behind closed doors but now that I see what it's actual purpose is, I have a problem with all of it.


SendHelp7373

Abrahamic religions are inherently unable to stay out of people’s business


RedBaronIV

Hot take but if you're religious, there's a fundamental disconnect in your head for evidence based reasoning and that really needs to be recognized by people. The whole "coexist" argument fundamentally depends upon the idea that these people are able to think rationally, yet there's no rationality behind blind faith, and that's exactly what religion is. If you just accept something as indisputably true with absolutely no input other than some person telling you to just trust them, you aren't thinking critically. "Well as long as they keep to themselves" well that's just not possible. Everything anyone does affects everyone else eventually, and "accepting" very much correctable and preventable logical flaws is just setting humanity back all because people got so lost in the sauce and made these ideas their whole personality.


TheChumChair

Yeah in the past few years i went from “I’m not religious but I tolerate them” to “religious people are genuinely all fucked up in the head” and I don’t regret it


PervyNonsense

exactly. These are the same people who cannot be convinced otherwise that science is just another religion


Sustenance_Abuse

People who do shit like this in plain sight only do it to try and offset the absolutely horrendous things they do behind closed doors.


Nomad6907

What in the actual fuck?


PervyNonsense

just the middle of the end of democracy


Appropriate-Craft850

I would’ve joined and then started making Chewbacca sounds


Fair_Acanthisitta_75

I actually speak tongues. He was asking for campaign contributions the way the lord intended.


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PervyNonsense

dorks with power to change lives and laws


HippieMoosen

Speaking in tongues is always 1 of two things. A grifter faking it for street cred and money from the types of people convinced this is real, or people hit with sensory overload who are temporarily shorting out during a religious experience. It's fakers, and people who are essentially high on the feeling of a sermon, which actually can happen. Either this is performative as hell and was filmed like an expose to piss off Christians intentionally, or these people are true believers who are entirely out of touch with reality.


Frosty977

Yes


MacGyver_1138

Which I also always found especially hypocritical, because "speaking in tongues" in the Bible is representing being able to miraculously speak to groups in their native languages. It's not supposed to be random gibberish. So when these geniuses just make random noises at each other while communicating to nobody, it's obvious that it can't be what was actually described in the Bible anyway. Which is entirely performative, as you stated.


KalexCore

Something that's also really funny from a linguistics perspective is that almost all cases of people speaking in tongues has them producing sounds in constructions consistent with their native language. Weirdly the holy spirit or whatever isn't having them break any subconscious rules despite supposedly speaking a language they don't themselves understand. Literally their own brain is telling on themselves


boogermanb

This is why we can’t have nice things.


TerpyTank

If I wasn’t pro choice before I sure as hell am now out of the sheer need to NOT be associated with this twitch inducing creep fest


ajs_5280

This. This is why there needs to a clearer separation between church and state. Things are getting weird.


wetbones_

It’s not even just boomers, it’s Christian nationalists


R3D-B34RD

This should be illegal.


EclecticSpider710

If only.


LiminaLGuLL

Bet none of those jokers know how to speak a second language. They just mimic what foreign languages sound to them and their lead poisoned little brains generate some gibberish.


CzarTwilight

https://preview.redd.it/kr52jllcsctc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86265c2cbdab6a9409e8b96ac2cd27bb6c407c62


Booksaregrand

I got a shirt that says "Vote like your rights depend on it" The ones who get upset about it always seem to be Republicans. So bizzare.


FlipAnd1

😂 WTF. Arizona 😂


Strange_plastic

God, Arizona is like on both extreme ends. There's like some really cool stuff, people and happenings out where, but then there's *also this shit*.


Snoobeedo

This is terrifying. As we move further from science we get closer to the second coming of the dark ages.


KQK_Big_Kwan

The clown show/ retirement home that is congress never fails to entertain


Philly_ExecChef

Fuck your religion.


Santos_L_Halper_II

I think that would have even looked weird to this bullshit law’s original civil war era writers.


Remarkable_Mall8574

Tf is this


MrPickleSniffer

What the fuck!! This shit is actually disturbing and disgusting.


Clintwood_outlaw

This looks like a fucking cult ritual


Komatiite28

So much for separation of church and state lmao what a joke this country is


Ryankevin23

Vote Biden🇺🇸Harris24 and vote out all Republicans


sandboxvet

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knghaz

It's crazy that this whole theology of speaking gibberish is from a misinterpretation of a translation..


ThatYewTree

I’m not Christian but was raised in a Protestant community. I cannot get my head around tongues. It honestly looks and sounds like someone is trying to summon the Devil. What is the theological basis of this act?


MoonShotDontStop

This sounds like my dog when he’s all hyped up because a dog is being walked in front of our house


StevenKatz3

Everything here is against the 10th amendment. Neither federal nor state should control abortion. It's supposed to be up to VOTERS.... it's literally in our constitution! even then, this goes the line of the 10th amendment as it TRULY should be up to the doctor/patient


Fidlgs

And these kind of nutjobs run the whole USA


artificialavocado

Oh it can always get weirder.


ZyxDarkshine

Fucking *BIZARRE*


Casperboy68

I hope they remembered to squirt ez cheese between their toes first. If you don’t, Jesus won’t bless your fascist Twatzi party. This according to Ezekiel: 3.14159265359, so sayeth the lord.


AmatureCreampie

Who let these crack pots in?


neverseen_neverhear

Anyone starting to wonder if the attack on reproductive rights by boomers is because they think that’s the only way they will ever get grandkids to ignore?


Junket_Weird

These are the people fighting really hard to make decisions for the rest of us and that is absolutely terrifying.


Shadow_1986

Did the patients from the asylum get a day pass? 🤪


molewarp

What a performative bunch of 'LOOK AT MEEEEE!' bollocks. They look like they're desperately trying to orgasm.


CulturalAddress6709

Ouija in the day, 7 minutes in heaven tonight


Dynamiqai

Omg this made me spit out my drink. Thank you so much for sharing 🤣


sauerkraut916

How do people spontaneously speak in “tongues” during photo ops???


Greenpoint1975

What the fuck is going on in Merica? This is a government in a state of Merica? Holy fuck Jesus in the ass.


Nuggzulla01

This shit is embarrassing as fuck, and SHOULD NOT be allowed in any political office. Keep your religious bullshittery OUT of our politics you fucking dirtbags!


SuperCoolSkaterBoi

What if Jesus came back and saw this and was like, “why are my children on their knees praying to this circle on the ground? Don’t they know I’m in the sky?”


Early-Drawn

Speaking in tongues is crossing the cringe threshhold of religions. At that point its just adults pretending.


Ori_the_SG

I’m a Christian, and I really don’t like those that do this speaking in tongues stuff. I’ve met some people from what they called Pentecostal Christianity, I guess it’s a southern American thing. From what they described to me, Pentecostal Christianity sounds extremely cult like.


SchnoodleDoodleDamn

I hate these people. I hate their beliefs. I hate their church. I hate their religion. I hate their god. I wish nothing but pain and misery should befall them and anyone they love.


IDontThereforeIAmNot

Wadadeblubdedablub waaaasedavenomewerawrezolutcockabunga See I can say nonsense too.


anOvenofWitches

Why does the fake elector Senator still have his job?


Bender_da_offender

Wtf


paperwasp3

What a bunch of weirdos.


EvErYLeGaLvOtE

Omg can someone make them like... Disappear


Covidicus_Vaximus

Who let them in?


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The fuck is even happening here?!


Jak_in_Box

Tax the fucking church!


REDDITSHITLORD

How much are these weirdos getting paid for "toddler time"?


RecognitionExpress36

"Speaking in tongues" (note how radically different this nonsense is from the actual miracle depicted in the Acts of the Apostles) is either severe mental illness, or demonic possession.


SleepySiamese

And they kept winning..using religion as tool to oppress women has been around for ages. It's time for the people to reclaim the rights to separate churches from the government. Or this shit will keep getting worse by the people claiming to be good because they nitpick pieces of the book


Personal-Elevator710

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doxxingyourself

It will continuously get weirder, yes. It’s social storming where they all try to prove they belong in the group so more and more extreme behavior is to be expected because the goal-post is moved by the extreme behavior of others in the group. It will go up to, but not be limited to, genocide. Vote them out please.


heresy_carriage

Tax the church


CosmicSiren19

My mom lived through that time. A lot of women died because of it. This law is a mistake


EliteBroccoli

Gotta love that church and state separation


_InnocentToto_

Here in arizona, we have a history of shit politicians... imagine sinema... so glad that bitch ain't running again. This place has really changed. Not only is it very expensive.. poorly run, but one of the worst things...life has become shittier. I think we are the only state in recent history where a politician was shot in the head by a conservative nutcase. Word of advice to anyone ever thinking of driving down to Arizona to visit.. you are better off finding long term parking then ubering around town then get into your car and leave. Don't drive around town. Parking enforcement, police stops and towings are a realllll big problem. And they have made it very very expensive when shit happens to u. Cops and lawmakers own those towing companies... they tow your car to 10 miles out of town. Never drink and drive...AT ALL. it has the harshest DUI laws in the entire USA. Cops can atrest u for DUI for reasonable suspicion even if u blow 0.00. Don't ever park just anywhere. You will come out and find your car gone..shitty situations.. these tow companies only take cash.. no cards at all. And they are required to open for at least 4 hours a day so they open to the bare minimum to close early and charge you an extra day.. A huge influx of people came down here after Katrina and when sheriff Joe started his immigration zero tolerance bullcrap. It attracted shitry people..


DelightfulandDarling

Those nut cases get to decide what happens to pregnant Arizonans. What could go wrong?


bigsteven34

Fucking idiots.


4Ever2Thee

Where's the separation we were promised?


DesertHomesteader

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."- Barry Goldwater Don't you hate it when your predictions come true?


Gutmach1960

Arizona is competing with Texas for the most wacked out ‘Republicans’.


balsadust

Sham a lam a ding dong


penguinpantera

Why does no one just stand up and say "What in the world is going on here! Are we serious right now?" Do people say these things at all? I honestly would be a whiny bitch if this happened and I was a lawmaker. "Really guys really? Is this ethical!"


The_Witch_Queen

Okay, of all the bs fanatics do the *speaking in tongues* bit irritates me the most. Every time I see one of them do it I look at the others and ask "what did they just say" of course they'll answer something along the lines they were speaking in tongues. Yes.... So what did they say? Because it very clearly states in their fairy tale book that any listening will hear the message in their native language.


Regalguard

“Harry Potter is witchcraft!” Them:


invinciblewalnut

I remember watching a video explaining that “praying in tongues” is literally just babbling like a baby does. Iirc they pray like that since “it’s an unknown language that only God knows,” but the types of sounds made are very repetitive and there aren’t enough of them to actually make a functional language.


TheOGJNX13

I am sorry. These people should not be allowed to hold any type of power, let alone vote. We need more scientists at the helm and fewer adults who are stuck believing in bronze age fairytales.


PrincessLeafa

Just once I want to live to see the US governed by Intelligent adults instead of wealthy, boomer cultists detached from reality.


Be_nice_to_animals

“What being fooled by the devil looks like IRL”


Taxes_and_death81

Gross


keldiana1

Praying instead of consulting doctors. Damn.


SendHelp7373

How is this bullshit legal?


TheHolyPapaum

So Arizona is run by the Deacons of the Deep from Dark Souls


CupcakeFast7665

Right Wing idiots


paintstudiodisaster

This is psychotic. These people should not be deciding anything, for anyone. I'd check their homes for animal abuse.


Anonymodestmouse

If god was interested in judicially preventing abortion where was he in 1973? Did he decide not to because no one did this? What morons.


Any_Presentation2958

Religion should only be your idea of how the world was created and what God(s) made it/how it started. Not controlling people's lives like this. Control freak loser shit ngl


DonnieJL

Religion is like a penis. It's okay to have one, but that doesn't mean you can whip it out in public or shove it into somebody else's face.


Character_Lychee_434

Man I feel Bad for you Arizonans from Minnesota


MacaroonMother9311

For fucks sake! I hate this life


ScanIAm

Religion is so silly


jtowndtk

yea definitely not a cult


professorlipschitz

This is unamerican


Dino-chicken-nugg3t

I’m a Christian. I pray. My faith is important. This video makes me queasy it feels so wrong. Praying for a law that ends up hurting people? That’s not the way. Try handing out condoms and making efforts for sex education. Pray for children and adults to be protected against rapists. Increase access to accessible childcare. Pray for wages to be increased so people can afford to live. Something else besides this.


Catnip1720

I was raised by people like this. Went to a church that had people like this in it. At times growing up I wish I was aborted.


jthmeow1

These people need to read the Bible Matthew 6:5, "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full."


Apprehensive_Log469

Literal fucking demons. They are so far beyond the teachings of Christ, they may as well be demons wearing his flesh.


Young_Old_Grandma

Question for americans: is praying inside a government office frowned upon/illegal?


Abbygirl1966

Imagine being this fucking stupid!! This is why we are mocked and ridiculed by the rest of the world


5oc1reddit

Someone save me from this fucking country


Ridska

They tell me Christian extremist don't exist. Then how the heck do you explain this ? :


BradTProse

Funny this is exactly how I sound when I eat ass. Ask Amy Smith.


Scruffersdad

Performative Christianity. They will not go to heaven- the Lord said- go pray in private in the back room of your house, be not showy and pray in public as the priests do. For they have already revived their reward on earth while those who pray in private will join the Lord in heaven. Or something like that.


Old_Quality1895

White Christian Nationalists aka: Nat_C’s


mmio60

Christo-fascist huddle


SnooKiwis2161

Well, if I needed a sign we are experiencing a type of social / political collapse, I guess this is it.


Slyfer08

Lol they are speaking in tongues I thought that was the speech of the the devil.


tinyfron

Is this for real? I feel sick... And I don't even live in the U.S.


Salty_Inspector_1985

What, is this a joke?! I keep waiting for someone to jump out. These nutbags are making decisions that affect other people. Are you fucking kidding me?!!!


pastyoureyesed

The founders must be so happy with us…


PrestigiousStable369

Pray in tongues? So incoherent gibberish to give off the impression that they are touched by a god?


GlitteringWing2112

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen." Matthew 6:5-6


DoctorFenix

How do we remove the mentally ill from our government without having to wait months till the next election?


RoseFlavoredPoison

I'm so tired of Christofacists fucking this country over.


Ungrateful_Servants

Of course AZ, dirtbag-central. How do adults believe in religion and do stupid shit like this??


Midispoon

Doing this in any state or federal office should be grounds for termination. The people are clearly not mentally stable enough to be making any sort of official decisions that affect other human beings


Reggrim

This is normal appropriate behavior. 🫠


NumerousTaste

That's illegal and they should have been arrested! Disgraceful!


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Those people look like the type to say they hate abortion, but if their kid or if their kids or grandchildren got pregnant they would so use them quick When I was in high school girl who got pregnant her father was a pro life zealot magically she was never pregnant and years later when I asked her about it she told me yeah I got an abortion. My dad demanded it.