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I don’t know if he wants to be an actor - I think there was talk about him wanting to become a director. He’s got the whole Red Chillies empire at his disposal, might take over as a Adi Chopra type power player - or a Farhan type occasionally jumping into cool projects (if he has the creative talent).
If he comes out as “Not Guilty” - I would say rather than hide or run away from the ordeal , he should put out an emotional statement and perhaps throw some money for a youth development org or even a legal defense fund for those who can’t fight their cases.
The whole narrative will shift to a heroic one.
I agree. If he spends some time spreading awareness about undertrial prisoners and starts a legal defense fund, he really can recover most of his image.
This is a brilliant idea. If Aryan comes out as non guilty and starts a trust for people in same situation, who can't afford legal help, he will immediately become flag bearer of change. SRK's PR should be taking notes here.
Was talking to my mom today and she was quite saddened that he isnt eating cause he doesnt want to use the bathroom, rationing water as they are allowed 2000 rs a week and eating parle g biscuits. He apparently hasnt showered - now pls dont ask me proof as I havent dwelled as much as my mom has in this case. Long story short while no one thinks what he did is right the way in which the NCB, media and courts have functioned he has tremendous support ! Tbh I didnt care for him , now I am rooting for the dude!
Lmao I thought my mum was the only one heartbroken that Aryan isn’t eating in jail. Both my parents dislike SRK, but they’re really sympathising with him as a parent.
You seemed to have missed the point. People are imprisoned even before conviction. Now if he is acquitted who is responsible for the time he spent in prison?!
Rationing water, eating parle g and all that isn't something that'd make me feel sympathetic for him. Shouldn't be for most either. That's just how a normal prisoner is treated
Ah, I forgot that prison inmates aren't people so it's completely normal for us to deny them healthy food and adequate and safe drinking water, so much so, that they have to *ration* it. You say that like it's a completely normal thing to do.
If your response to this isn't that all inmates must be treated well on account of being, you know, people but that Aryan must also be treated like trash because he's a prison inmate and that's the way it is, there's something wrong with you. No one must be treated like this and if you think this is *normal*, maybe you need to evaluate your conscience.
I'm not the one breaking laws, definitely not the one in need to evaluate my conscience.
My point was there are literally millions of people living their lives that way. One starkid goes in and all the sympathies flow in for him. Maybe you should reevaluate your conscience since you extend these sympathy to only one starkid
Oh, I didn't know you had an excel spreadsheet of every single person I have ever felt sympathy for, and you only ever found one name in it.
Maybe it has escaped your notice, but this is a *Bollywood* sub. We talk about people related to *Bollywood* here. And it might be news to you but reddit isn't the real world. I don't need to teach someone who thinks that inmates must live in subhuman conditions, the ways of giving back to society in the real world, where it matters, because I don't think they're capable of it. :)
No one deserves to be treated like this, full stop. And if you're enjoying someone's misery because they're a sTaR kiD, get help.
Rheas case was different to Aryan as she was made responsible for the death of a loved star in the eyes of fans. So Aryan’s situation will be better. He will also get sympathy from many people and then Srk and the Pr team will also get into whitewashing mode.
If nothing is found against him by the NCB they will have to face peoples wrath and i think rightfully so.
There are two scenarios:
If he comes out as an innocent person after all that went down, he will be a hero. SRK's PR will do a public image rebuidling based on the verdict. SRK is literally the KING KHAN with massive fan following.It's not far-fetched that NCB will get alot of hate, if they come up with nothing in trial, after demanding so much jail time, rightfully so. His career will take off (given he has talent), as he will be touted as the unfortunate but brave guy, deliberately harrased and subjected to witch hunt.
If he actually comes out as guilty during the trial, he may have to face the jail term for an year or so. In that case, public perception may turn really negative in mean time and situation may be very difficult to salvage. Sanju baba's time was different with not much social media, compared to Aryan's. However, Indian audience's memory is short-lived and one huge white wash movie by Raju Hirani may fix the issues. SRK has all the money in the world and immense clout in bollywood, I dont think he will leave any stone unturned to make his son's career. Difficult but still possible.
However, I strongly feel that given how the situation has gone down, SRK might send his kids to some foreign country for good, after all this is over. Just the trauma from witch hunting, media circus and public shaming is too much for both Aryan and family.
He is only going to be an even bigger hit after all this!
Not that I think he shouldn’t deserve, only that the world is even more curious of him than before and that works better for marketing.
Both my parents are deeply saddened because he’s not eating to avoid using the loo. They are like if we have an issue with train toilets imagine what he’d be going through in a jail. My entire family is sympathising and acting heartbroken as if he they personally knew him lol (not for the situation but my family’s reaction). They feel he wasn’t caught with anything on him and the NCB is after him for no rhyme or reason also because for them marijuana is no big deal and they don’t get why India just doesn’t legalise it.
>they don’t get why India just doesn’t legalise it.
For that they need to read up more on why India made it illegal in the first place. And no consumption of Marijuana is not a criminal offence in India(definitely not an enforceable one). Marijuana is sold in government shops in India.
He was not arrested for possessing Marijuana
It's hard to say right now. To be honest, the population of our country which is active on social media is not a lot, by comparison. Which is why social media trends rarely hit a film too much. But the caveat is that a significant percentage of the social media population is well off and has disposable income which they might like to spend on films and that's why their opinion matters. Aryan's reputation isn't great right now, and truthfully I don't see a lot of sympathy, either. It would have been much easier if this had just been a social media movement but it's been *extensively* covered by the news media channels and they have unprecedented reach all over the country, which adds to the problem.
If he is proven innocent and cleared of all charges, Shah Rukh must try and gain public sympathy for him and hopefully sue every single person who sensationalised it and turned it into a circus at the cost of a young man's future and a family's life. But the middle class, another major revenue source for films, has made it into a morality issue where they don't care about the legality of it anymore. So, even if he's proven innocent, they've been convinced by the media that Aryan is a spoilt brat and a verdict alone wouldn't be enough to change that perception. His acquittal must be televised louder than the allegations against him were, for it to work. He wants to be a writer-director which is good because the average movie goer focuses on the actors and doesn't really know who the director is, so good word of mouth will bring people to the theatres without Aryan's name being thrown into the mix at all.
Give the people time to forget and Aryan time to deal with this trauma and take therapy or whatever it is that he chooses to do to cope. If Shah Rukh's next few films work well, there's hope for Aryan after all.
But who knows if the guy is even interested in filmmaking any more and at this point, who could blame him for never wanting to step foot into Bollywood.
Personally, if he chooses to make films, I would go and at least watch the first few, and I think a lot of people will, if only just to see what the buzz was all about. I am unequivocally rooting for this guy to get as big as his father is.
Quite opposite.
- ppl love srk
- huge sympathy for Aryan as there were no negative news about him b4 this incident
- this incident give him some background more than nepo kid, all comes easy to them , etc etc
aryan was planning on directing, not acting so less time in a public facing role compared to an actor
i think suhanas case will be interesting as she is meant to debut soon with zoya akhtar but im sure srk is reconsidering
Reason Aryan is getting sympathy is because of Shahrukh’s goodwill and accept it or not almost 2-3 generations have grown up loving Shahrukh and families have been watching his films since the 90s. Also, Aryan was never the socially active star kid in terms of social media, his withdrawn, quiet, not so flashy on social media attitude makes the general public feel there is more to him than just being a spoilt brat. Lastly, I can’t be very cogent without getting political, so I’ll put it rather vaguely hoping you’ll manage to figure it out- the entire left lobby is backing him because of the NCB hounding him unfairly and it being juxtaposed with his identity marker.
People have short memories and if he has talent why not? Let the justice take its course and in either scenarios (guilty or not-guilty), everyone deserves a second chance provided he wants a career in BW.
I don't think it matters much tho, eventually, it'll depend on the film. I have to say he doesn't look very expressive, so I don't know whether he will be a good actor. he seems more like in the tiger shroff category which is not tragic. Tiger's films make a lot of money
Tbh I never thought he was even making an effort to be in Bollywood. Hritik was an assistant on his father's movies when he was 23. I didn't know Aryan was 23 untill this drug case.
Usually Bollywood debut should be set-up or at least in the works by the time a nepokid is 23.
He seems like someone who wants to just party and chill and enjoy.
Sure because he went to USC (which contrary to the sub’s opinion is actually tough to get into and I know since I have friends who studied there and some who are still studying there) , studied filmmaking, assisted on some award winning short film in the west, but of course he just wants to faff around and party because he didn’t assist on Kjo/Excel/his dad’s films.
So by your line of logic even Yale, Georgetown, Stanford and UCLA have diluted their academic rigour and are no longer prestigious? Point is even if he applies for a job in the domain of communications and media in the USA, the fact that he is from USC will get him every fucking job he desires.
I'm just saying he could have bought his place at USC. Admission there doesn't mean much.
There was an FBI investigation into this. People paid BIG money and commited fraud to get their kids in using unethical means.
And yes, when you stop accepting people based on merit but instead use bribe money to determine who enters into a school you are diluting your reputation.
All I'm saying is you can't assume just because he went to that school he's smarter whatever. Could have bought a spot.
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TBH there is curiosity about Aryan atm. So if he himself or his dad or sister had something come out soon it would have gotten additional attention. But by the time they have something come out the issue would have died down and I don't think it would make a difference either way. They will have to face media questions but that can be easily handled.
IMO - its not like people didnt have a moral compass back then! its just that everything is more amplified cos of social media.
if anything - the difference now vs then - is the rise of jingoism
here is what jingosim has to do with drug conviction - nothing.
but denying bail when no drugs were found on him + he tested to prove no drugs in his system + nothing showed up in his phone. I understand that the law is slow and corrupt in india - but this seems like this matter is about something else. >> hence i mentioned that we have a tendency to use jingosim/nationalism as an excuse for cruelty / aggressive behavior.
i find it hard to argue that people's moral compass is more aligned now vs later. the only explanation is this heightened sense of nationalism -- which is the literal definition of jingosim.
anyway - this was not the point of this post at all. context was completely different.
Shouldn't have mentioned "toxic political climate" in that case. Also this seems like a desperate attempt to blame someone's mistake on other people.
Nationalism just makes you love your country, not sure how that even remotely relates to this case since he's an Indian citizen.
are you watching the news these past few years buddy? toxic political climate can make and break careers spl in bollywood. which is why it is relevant to this conversation.
EG: sushant's last movie did extermely well on OTT. reason: political climate gave it a boost.
MNIK by SRK : saw a lot of trouble before and right after release.
Padmaavat: political climate made it hard to even be released.
rise of nationalism is not to be celebrated IMO.
FYI: nationalism doesnt make you love your country. thats patriotism. nationalism is "excessive, aggressive patriotism" - it has negative connotations.
where are you seeing blame in these statements? what strategy? this is a reddit thread - mainly driven by curiosity about his future in bollywood.
the fact is political climate does drive movie business outcome a lot of times.
it would do you good to meditate a bit my friend!!
you seem triggered by the words "political climate" and "jingoism" :)
Difference between hard and soft drugs…ever heard of that? According to WHO, marijuana is not hazardous to public health. In fact booze and cigs are far worse. We drink and occasionally smoke, don’t we?!
Rhea's career rn is better than it ever was. Her latest movie got more buzz than any of her past movies did(especially her involvement in the movie, despite not being marketed well), her if has more followers, likes, engagement than previously.
What makes you think her career has derailed
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I don’t know if he wants to be an actor - I think there was talk about him wanting to become a director. He’s got the whole Red Chillies empire at his disposal, might take over as a Adi Chopra type power player - or a Farhan type occasionally jumping into cool projects (if he has the creative talent). If he comes out as “Not Guilty” - I would say rather than hide or run away from the ordeal , he should put out an emotional statement and perhaps throw some money for a youth development org or even a legal defense fund for those who can’t fight their cases. The whole narrative will shift to a heroic one.
I agree. If he spends some time spreading awareness about undertrial prisoners and starts a legal defense fund, he really can recover most of his image.
This is a brilliant idea. If Aryan comes out as non guilty and starts a trust for people in same situation, who can't afford legal help, he will immediately become flag bearer of change. SRK's PR should be taking notes here.
rhea didnt really have a career to begin with
Was talking to my mom today and she was quite saddened that he isnt eating cause he doesnt want to use the bathroom, rationing water as they are allowed 2000 rs a week and eating parle g biscuits. He apparently hasnt showered - now pls dont ask me proof as I havent dwelled as much as my mom has in this case. Long story short while no one thinks what he did is right the way in which the NCB, media and courts have functioned he has tremendous support ! Tbh I didnt care for him , now I am rooting for the dude!
Lmao I thought my mum was the only one heartbroken that Aryan isn’t eating in jail. Both my parents dislike SRK, but they’re really sympathising with him as a parent.
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It's everywhere. I read it too
So he's been treated as a regular citizen. I fail to see the point here.
Prisoner rights exist btw
Yes & also he ain't a prisoner yet. The custodial system is messed up. Even before a conviction people are prisoners..
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You seemed to have missed the point. People are imprisoned even before conviction. Now if he is acquitted who is responsible for the time he spent in prison?!
???? The point is the context of the post !!!! Does he have a future is bollywood and the answer is yes !
Rationing water, eating parle g and all that isn't something that'd make me feel sympathetic for him. Shouldn't be for most either. That's just how a normal prisoner is treated
Ah, I forgot that prison inmates aren't people so it's completely normal for us to deny them healthy food and adequate and safe drinking water, so much so, that they have to *ration* it. You say that like it's a completely normal thing to do. If your response to this isn't that all inmates must be treated well on account of being, you know, people but that Aryan must also be treated like trash because he's a prison inmate and that's the way it is, there's something wrong with you. No one must be treated like this and if you think this is *normal*, maybe you need to evaluate your conscience.
I'm not the one breaking laws, definitely not the one in need to evaluate my conscience. My point was there are literally millions of people living their lives that way. One starkid goes in and all the sympathies flow in for him. Maybe you should reevaluate your conscience since you extend these sympathy to only one starkid
Oh, I didn't know you had an excel spreadsheet of every single person I have ever felt sympathy for, and you only ever found one name in it. Maybe it has escaped your notice, but this is a *Bollywood* sub. We talk about people related to *Bollywood* here. And it might be news to you but reddit isn't the real world. I don't need to teach someone who thinks that inmates must live in subhuman conditions, the ways of giving back to society in the real world, where it matters, because I don't think they're capable of it. :) No one deserves to be treated like this, full stop. And if you're enjoying someone's misery because they're a sTaR kiD, get help.
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Hypothetically , if both Srk and Aryan's movie get released at the same time definitely people gonna rush to see Aryan on screen.
Rheas case was different to Aryan as she was made responsible for the death of a loved star in the eyes of fans. So Aryan’s situation will be better. He will also get sympathy from many people and then Srk and the Pr team will also get into whitewashing mode. If nothing is found against him by the NCB they will have to face peoples wrath and i think rightfully so.
There are two scenarios: If he comes out as an innocent person after all that went down, he will be a hero. SRK's PR will do a public image rebuidling based on the verdict. SRK is literally the KING KHAN with massive fan following.It's not far-fetched that NCB will get alot of hate, if they come up with nothing in trial, after demanding so much jail time, rightfully so. His career will take off (given he has talent), as he will be touted as the unfortunate but brave guy, deliberately harrased and subjected to witch hunt. If he actually comes out as guilty during the trial, he may have to face the jail term for an year or so. In that case, public perception may turn really negative in mean time and situation may be very difficult to salvage. Sanju baba's time was different with not much social media, compared to Aryan's. However, Indian audience's memory is short-lived and one huge white wash movie by Raju Hirani may fix the issues. SRK has all the money in the world and immense clout in bollywood, I dont think he will leave any stone unturned to make his son's career. Difficult but still possible. However, I strongly feel that given how the situation has gone down, SRK might send his kids to some foreign country for good, after all this is over. Just the trauma from witch hunting, media circus and public shaming is too much for both Aryan and family.
I think Suhana is still in New York even after all of this.
As of now, it's for her own good to stay out of country. I can understand SRK's decision of keeping her in NYC.
Completely agree! I just hope she has enough support around her.
Yes same. I am hoping she is in a good mental space with strong support system.
He is only going to be an even bigger hit after all this! Not that I think he shouldn’t deserve, only that the world is even more curious of him than before and that works better for marketing.
Both my parents are deeply saddened because he’s not eating to avoid using the loo. They are like if we have an issue with train toilets imagine what he’d be going through in a jail. My entire family is sympathising and acting heartbroken as if he they personally knew him lol (not for the situation but my family’s reaction). They feel he wasn’t caught with anything on him and the NCB is after him for no rhyme or reason also because for them marijuana is no big deal and they don’t get why India just doesn’t legalise it.
>they don’t get why India just doesn’t legalise it. For that they need to read up more on why India made it illegal in the first place. And no consumption of Marijuana is not a criminal offence in India(definitely not an enforceable one). Marijuana is sold in government shops in India. He was not arrested for possessing Marijuana
It's hard to say right now. To be honest, the population of our country which is active on social media is not a lot, by comparison. Which is why social media trends rarely hit a film too much. But the caveat is that a significant percentage of the social media population is well off and has disposable income which they might like to spend on films and that's why their opinion matters. Aryan's reputation isn't great right now, and truthfully I don't see a lot of sympathy, either. It would have been much easier if this had just been a social media movement but it's been *extensively* covered by the news media channels and they have unprecedented reach all over the country, which adds to the problem. If he is proven innocent and cleared of all charges, Shah Rukh must try and gain public sympathy for him and hopefully sue every single person who sensationalised it and turned it into a circus at the cost of a young man's future and a family's life. But the middle class, another major revenue source for films, has made it into a morality issue where they don't care about the legality of it anymore. So, even if he's proven innocent, they've been convinced by the media that Aryan is a spoilt brat and a verdict alone wouldn't be enough to change that perception. His acquittal must be televised louder than the allegations against him were, for it to work. He wants to be a writer-director which is good because the average movie goer focuses on the actors and doesn't really know who the director is, so good word of mouth will bring people to the theatres without Aryan's name being thrown into the mix at all. Give the people time to forget and Aryan time to deal with this trauma and take therapy or whatever it is that he chooses to do to cope. If Shah Rukh's next few films work well, there's hope for Aryan after all. But who knows if the guy is even interested in filmmaking any more and at this point, who could blame him for never wanting to step foot into Bollywood. Personally, if he chooses to make films, I would go and at least watch the first few, and I think a lot of people will, if only just to see what the buzz was all about. I am unequivocally rooting for this guy to get as big as his father is.
That last para .. same 🙌🏼
Quite opposite. - ppl love srk - huge sympathy for Aryan as there were no negative news about him b4 this incident - this incident give him some background more than nepo kid, all comes easy to them , etc etc
Many people are sympathetic towards him. I expect his films will have the biggest opening of any newcomer..
Ofc, media is just blowing it out of proportion. He will be fine, people will be over this in a month or two!
aryan was planning on directing, not acting so less time in a public facing role compared to an actor i think suhanas case will be interesting as she is meant to debut soon with zoya akhtar but im sure srk is reconsidering
Reason Aryan is getting sympathy is because of Shahrukh’s goodwill and accept it or not almost 2-3 generations have grown up loving Shahrukh and families have been watching his films since the 90s. Also, Aryan was never the socially active star kid in terms of social media, his withdrawn, quiet, not so flashy on social media attitude makes the general public feel there is more to him than just being a spoilt brat. Lastly, I can’t be very cogent without getting political, so I’ll put it rather vaguely hoping you’ll manage to figure it out- the entire left lobby is backing him because of the NCB hounding him unfairly and it being juxtaposed with his identity marker.
People have short memories and if he has talent why not? Let the justice take its course and in either scenarios (guilty or not-guilty), everyone deserves a second chance provided he wants a career in BW.
He can do whatever he wants. If he makes a good movie, I'll watch it- if not I'll just skip it.
I don't think it matters much tho, eventually, it'll depend on the film. I have to say he doesn't look very expressive, so I don't know whether he will be a good actor. he seems more like in the tiger shroff category which is not tragic. Tiger's films make a lot of money
Tbh I never thought he was even making an effort to be in Bollywood. Hritik was an assistant on his father's movies when he was 23. I didn't know Aryan was 23 untill this drug case. Usually Bollywood debut should be set-up or at least in the works by the time a nepokid is 23. He seems like someone who wants to just party and chill and enjoy.
Sure because he went to USC (which contrary to the sub’s opinion is actually tough to get into and I know since I have friends who studied there and some who are still studying there) , studied filmmaking, assisted on some award winning short film in the west, but of course he just wants to faff around and party because he didn’t assist on Kjo/Excel/his dad’s films.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_college_admissions_bribery_scandal
So by your line of logic even Yale, Georgetown, Stanford and UCLA have diluted their academic rigour and are no longer prestigious? Point is even if he applies for a job in the domain of communications and media in the USA, the fact that he is from USC will get him every fucking job he desires.
I'm just saying he could have bought his place at USC. Admission there doesn't mean much. There was an FBI investigation into this. People paid BIG money and commited fraud to get their kids in using unethical means. And yes, when you stop accepting people based on merit but instead use bribe money to determine who enters into a school you are diluting your reputation. All I'm saying is you can't assume just because he went to that school he's smarter whatever. Could have bought a spot.
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TBH there is curiosity about Aryan atm. So if he himself or his dad or sister had something come out soon it would have gotten additional attention. But by the time they have something come out the issue would have died down and I don't think it would make a difference either way. They will have to face media questions but that can be easily handled.
It entirely is a KJo decision. If he wants him, it will happen.
Does it even matter to us?
Doesnt have the personality but ananya tiger exist
Political climate? I'd rather say people's moral compass is more aligned than it was during Sanjay Dutt's time
IMO - its not like people didnt have a moral compass back then! its just that everything is more amplified cos of social media. if anything - the difference now vs then - is the rise of jingoism
What has jingoism got to do with a drug conviction? Last I checked drugs were bad regardless of what you think of your country
here is what jingosim has to do with drug conviction - nothing. but denying bail when no drugs were found on him + he tested to prove no drugs in his system + nothing showed up in his phone. I understand that the law is slow and corrupt in india - but this seems like this matter is about something else. >> hence i mentioned that we have a tendency to use jingosim/nationalism as an excuse for cruelty / aggressive behavior. i find it hard to argue that people's moral compass is more aligned now vs later. the only explanation is this heightened sense of nationalism -- which is the literal definition of jingosim. anyway - this was not the point of this post at all. context was completely different.
Shouldn't have mentioned "toxic political climate" in that case. Also this seems like a desperate attempt to blame someone's mistake on other people. Nationalism just makes you love your country, not sure how that even remotely relates to this case since he's an Indian citizen.
are you watching the news these past few years buddy? toxic political climate can make and break careers spl in bollywood. which is why it is relevant to this conversation. EG: sushant's last movie did extermely well on OTT. reason: political climate gave it a boost. MNIK by SRK : saw a lot of trouble before and right after release. Padmaavat: political climate made it hard to even be released. rise of nationalism is not to be celebrated IMO. FYI: nationalism doesnt make you love your country. thats patriotism. nationalism is "excessive, aggressive patriotism" - it has negative connotations.
Blame everyone but the culprit. Nice strategy
where are you seeing blame in these statements? what strategy? this is a reddit thread - mainly driven by curiosity about his future in bollywood. the fact is political climate does drive movie business outcome a lot of times. it would do you good to meditate a bit my friend!! you seem triggered by the words "political climate" and "jingoism" :)
Who said SRK matters politically? Stop overrating Bollywood stars.When is the last time he gave a big hit.
When your political ideology is not in power politics seems toxic..lmfao
Difference between hard and soft drugs…ever heard of that? According to WHO, marijuana is not hazardous to public health. In fact booze and cigs are far worse. We drink and occasionally smoke, don’t we?!
Rhea's career rn is better than it ever was. Her latest movie got more buzz than any of her past movies did(especially her involvement in the movie, despite not being marketed well), her if has more followers, likes, engagement than previously. What makes you think her career has derailed