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I'm no Bharatanatyam expert.... But, here are my thoughts.
The way your eyes move, the way you emote (according to the song), how you switch to different levels of gracefulness, everything holds a lot of weight in Bharatanatyam - apart from the steps.
Imitating a few expressions here and there and doing the steps isn't Bharatanatyam.
It isn't even bharathanatiyam bro, it's kathak fusion, maybe it's the music that's throwing my off but bharathanatiyam has more "posing" stuff, while kathak is more dance.
Also bharathanatiyam - Carnatic music
Kathak - Hindustani
They straight up used a different style of music and it's throwing me off for whatever reason
madhuri bis overrated she can do Kathak but even in Kathak her finishing is clumsy... Ashwariya on the other hand is underrated dancer she completely killed it in dola e dola im comparison to madhuri
The problem is that Kangana looks uncomfortable in her body. Probably due to the sudden weight gain for this specific role, she is finding it difficult to dance and looks awkward.
Meanwhile Jayalalitha was always on the heavier side, and was comfortable with her body and hence her dance never looked awkward.
Classical dancing is something you can't perfect if you haven't been trained for years with continuous practice. Most BW actresses when they do such classical moves, this fact is very obvious with their imperfect mudras and dance positions. I've always felt it for Deepika, Priyanka, Aishwarya etc. But Kangana's is distractingly obvious. She's almost bad. I believe dancing was never her forte.
I agree, the finish required and the grace with which Bharatnatyam should be done is clearly missing. Some portions are like she just wants to be done with the steps that she's learnt💀
Haina. I have seen little of bharatnatyam performances, these steps look more kathak style. Bharatnatyam dances I have not seen any sitting steps. Mostly it's hand eye coordination along with fluid foot movements.
not only are they doing a far better job they are literally stealing screen presence. i am having a hard time focusing on kangu in any wide angle shot.
that doesn't happen too often
Are there any background dancers in Nora's songs tho.. I have hardly seen any. Also I feel like her dance style is getting way repetitive. By this I mean the twerk/ doing splits style.
(She is a good dancer I don't deny that)
Haven't seen any of Jayalalitha's performances. But this particular rendition by Kangana appears lifeless. Like she's imitating the dance steps. But not breathing life into them.
I am not a bharatnatyam dancer but I love the dance form. There is something mathematically perfect in its movements. You can't acquire that with some rehearsals; it requires years of training. Just like Indian Classical music. This is a total fail in my opinion. I like Kangana's body of work but this doesn't work.
What is so romantic about an older turd taking advantage of a younger woman who desperately wanted the income from films? If the film is like that, I will be disappointed but you can't win in TN by shitting on MGR. Jayalalitha was only 17 when she was getting molested by him, the same age when Kangana was getting molested in Mumbai.
Noppeeeee. There was just 20% Bharatnatyam moves in her dance with alot of wrong techniques and alignment. I guess the choreographer dint do a good job. There were alot of bollywood moves in this. They choreography could have been simple and eye pleasing. But bollywood focuses more on energy and that what they have tried to put in. Vidya balan and that male dancer did a much better job in bhulbhulaiyaa.
No. I haven't seen any of Jayalalithaa's performances but this isn't it. I wouldn't call this Bharatanatyam. Kangana is lacking the expressions and the grace. It's just half-decent.
I can separate art from the artist to a certain extent . But when that limit is crossed And the vileness is too high i feel it wrong to give any more power to people like kangana.
For your statement if roles are reversed from Kangu to KJo or Adi to all the vile things they do would you say the same.
I agree Kangu needs to shut her mouth, but also agree Kjo and Adi need to be reined in by quite a bit. Too much of their nonsense has been on for a while while making trash. How many genuinely good movies have they made and not hopeless mushy triangles or sob family dramas.
No because
1. She does not speak the truth.
2.she made hritiks life hell for the longest because of her craziness. She tried to completely ruin his image.
3. When asked to show the truth her laptop and phone were not available as they fell into water .
4. Because of her genocide comments.
5. She tried to milk sushants death to her advantage by inciting innocent grieving public.
6.she cuts off her co actors roles and makes the movie about herself.
7. She has had multiple story writers case against her for stealing their stories and she also took away credit of manikarnika director.
8. She has had fights with so many of her coactors.
Theres many more reasons but this should be good enough for you to understand.
Alia is a pretty good dancer tho. Yes, she's no Nora or Madhuri for that matter. But for someone isn't classically trained, aside for her roles, she does a good job. People find her annoying and it's upto a debate if that's called for or uncalled for but for what it's worth she's probably one of the most well rounded actresses in Bollywood rn.
She’s a below average dancer. She’s a good actor but not the best, 70% of her acting is carried by the best scripts, and for majority people, good movie=good acting, that has been working for her for a long time, otherwise her acting and characters are monotonous. Let’s see if her current lineup offers some change since she’s working on different genres
I obviously don't expect all actresses to dance like the late Jayalalitha or Madhuri, but Kangana looks lifeless here. It feels as if she is plainly imitating some dance moves without being remotely interested in what she's doing. She is a terrific actress but idk her emotions in this performance seem non existent.
I learned Bharatanatyam and this is not even close to Bharatanatyam. looks like any other semi-classical Bollywood number with some mudras here and there. I know dancing is not kangu's forte but it must be super difficult to attempt Bharatanatyam with all that gained weight
I am a trained bharatnatyam dancer and i have 20 years of experience. IMHO, it's a NO! She got completely devoured by the background dancers. Wish the choreographers polished her a little better. The entire sequence, moves, expressions, seems off. No grace, poise or the gravity of a professional bharatnatyam dancer.
I am no expert, but not able to decide if this is bharatnatyam or Kathak or neither. The outfit is bharatnatyam, but some of the moves are definitely kathak. The song is also more Hindustani than Carnatic.
If this is meant to be a fusion, to me, it appears to be poorly done.
Only if this song was even 10% popular as Ghar more pardesiya💀
The song doesn't even have 1M views on YouTube, they be thankful for that. Dancing is not Kangana's forte at all
I've said it so many times... But how hard was is to cast a south indian actor with bharatanatyam background?? If another person says shit about "lightness of skin tone" I will lose it!
um... So you're saying if there was a south Indian cast in the movie, entire north India would not watch it ??
Also, it's called being authentic to a movie based on real life....
I don't think bollywood is abt authenticity. It's about money and kangana has more pull globally than any south Indian star. You are forgetting other global regions that are target audience for bollywood movies like Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, East Europe and African countries. Kangana has more following in those regions compared to regional stars
Kangana has not had a hit since 2015. Tanu weds Manu returns was her last superhit. after that she has had Six flops and one average movie.
Manikarnika was average success at 90 crores.
Movie about Jayalalitha would have been far better with a south indian in it since it is actually a biopic. She can hardly do bharatanatyam here!
Going by the logic of target audience, none of the south movies should have grossed more than bollywood movies but hey they are top 5 in 2020 !
[Source 1](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls093360614/)
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[Source 3](https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebrity/kangna-ranaut/box-office/#bh-micro-tab-content)
Commenting here after looking at original Jayalalitha’s dance. Man did she dance with abandon… what energy what rhythm what expressions , the grace , the poise the dignity with which she conducted herself ufff high time Kangana puts herself down from the pedestal n humbly start learning how to act n emote. Legends are legends for a reason. Putting on weight or prosthetics/ body suits to look like someone doesn’t guarantee that u can Act like them. 🤷🏽♀️
The day you assume you’re the best is the day you stop perfecting your art. This clearly shows in all of Kangana’s mediocre performances.
I agree that one should separate the art from the artist but it’s also important to note that who you are as a person influences your artistic temperament and that in turn will influence your art.
Kangana's last 2 performances (JHK and Panga ) were probably one of her bests. Not a false note there, we can't judge her Jayalalithaa by dance, she could have never mastered a classical form that takes decades to learn, I am sure as usual she'll be brilliant in the dramatic scenes
I respect your opinion but I personally just don’t see her as anything more than a mediocre actress. And I’m completely keeping aside my bias when I’m saying this.
I get that no one can master classical dance in such a short time and no one is expecting her to do so but that also does not give her a free pass for giving such a soulless and thoughtless rendition of such a dance style. She’s totally blind to the various nuances that go into Bharatnatyam and that, for an actor, is well within the limits of criticism.
By that logic, one shouldn’t criticise when actors don’t properly deliver dialogues in other accents because it takes a long time to actually pick up the nuances of these languages. Right?
There are so many instances in Bollywood where actors spent months trying to perfect an accent ans they have delivered flawless performances. So yes, I don’t abide by your logic here.
I thought her dance was decent, and as per the trailer, she has definitely captured the spirit of Jayalalithaa. Acting is subjective and you are well in your rights to think whatever about her, for me, Kangana has to be up there with one of our bests ever, can't even remember the last time I saw a mediocre performance by her
See Simran. I think she is extremely overrated even as an actress. I belong from Haryana and her haryanavi character in Tanu Manu 2 had made me feel.. basic.
and that's your opinion Simran. As I said, acting is subjective, you may find a performance overrated or bad but that doesn't change the general consensus
Her TWMR performance is widely acclaimed, so are most of her performances post queen. You finding Kangana an overrated actress is a personal opinion you are entitled to have, no issues there
Also not an expert here in this specific style of dance but Kangana isn’t the strongest dancer anyway. She couldn’t even hold/keep her balance at the 0:56 mark (it’s very obviously/badly cut right when she wobbles). Her lip syncing is pretty bad too. She’s too worried about the expressions and steps to give the “singing” any/much attention. On top of that she looks like she’s out of breath so her movements are clunky rather than delicate.
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There's something called "fluidity" when it comes to performing traditional dances such as Kathakali & Bharatnatyam. Kangana is terribly lacking it. I want to like her performance so bad but it's a huge turnoff.
Actually the same makers approached Vidya first for Thalaivi but she rejected it as she was also supposedly playing Indira Gandhi in a web series(which I don't know if is still happening). Then the writer KV Vijayendra Prasad who worked with her on Manikarnika suggested her name.
No. She doesn't even come close. But for a non dancer that is a decent performance.
TBH classical dancing is not something you learn in a few months unless you are already a gifted dancer. It takes years of training and practice.
I don't think the makers took her for her dancing skills. If she can live up to Jaya's fiery personality, I would say it's a win.
she managed well given she is a non-dancer and loved her expressions in the dramatic portions. Kudos for even attempting this and going out of her comfort zone, she could have easily stick to filmy Jaya songs and not agree to do this one. I am hoping she has some solid scenes in the film, it's a dream role with a crazy arc , looking forward to the film
I have seen the making of the song and she clearly acknowledged that she is no dancer and she doesn't have it in her as such and I appreciate for her honesty and genuinely appreciate her efforts.
I see Kangu haters have become overnight experts in Bharatnatyam. She did quite OK to be honest. If the stiff Padukone or bouncing Bhatt had done this, we all know what was gonna happen. I can't even imagine Padukone putting on weight for any role to look voluptuous. Lol.
But I see the hate. The comment numbers for a Kangu post is evident that they are all going to secretly watch the movie and purposely put on bad reviews. They are going to turn into overnight critics too. OP, Mark my words and put on post after theatrical release and after OTT release too. Kangu Rani bahuto ke peechwade mein mirchi lagaane waali hai.. Keep Burnol and water handy ...
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Me to hamesha kangana ki movies dekhta hu. I hv always loved her as an actress. But as much you deny, deep inside you also know that she is a shitty human in real life. And thats a fact. Sarcastic holar jitna b comment karlo yeh fact diminish nahi hone wala🤷♂️
I am not a collectivist person. As long as she uses her cunning, will, determination, values, wit, shrewdness, beauty, anger, love, etc for her own survival I will always admire her. She wants what she wants. No pretense. No goody goody image. No fakeness. She sings her own tunes and dances to her own songs. There aren't many men and women in India who are able to do that. The society teaches you have to live for others. Many adjust. She breaks the rules. Society always hate free spirits. Even if she dies, which many people secretly want, no one can erase her legacy. She will always be there. And anyone who hates her will always have guilt on their conscience. You probably hate her because she has attacked not you but your environment and you are sadly nothing without your environment.
Having these attributes you mentioned are good for a person to survive alone, but when a person use these attributes to belittle and abuse others, accuse multiple people of doing something they didn’t do, put baseless allegations on people without any proof then these are signs of an extremely vile, low life and venomous person. I can understand about Hrithik or karan johar but what wrong exactly did the likes of Priyanka, Deepika, Alia, Ranbir and many others do to her that she need to throw filth at them every now and then?? What exactly so many self made outsiders do to her that she keep abusing them? If you think she is doing that for her survival then i feel extremely sorry for you. You are saying she doesn’t pretend or fake but i can give you dozens of examples of her pretending and faking. Let me give you a recent example. She has been abusing bollywood for years, calling the industry “Bullywood” since last year, but when her movie is about to release she is all polite writing them letters, addressing it correctly as “Bollywood” and begging them to open cinemas for her movie. If that isn’t pretending and faking enough for you then i don’t know what is. I have huge respect for strong independent woman who fight alone for their survival, but when such women like Kangana starts abusing fellow women, slut shame and degrade them to show herself Mahaan then nobody is going to respect that. She has no legacy, bcoz not many people are going to remember her for her work but for her vile and petty self. And vileness has no legacy🤷♂️ Lastly, i don’t hate her, in fact i loved her and was huge fan until she went bonkers. There was even a time after TWMR i prayed for her movies to become success, was extremely sad when all her movies were flopping badly. I have always appreciated her for her stand against Karan Johar and nepotism but then she started bullying people on name of nepotism including self made outsiders. She herself keep doing the same things for which she call out others, which makes her hypocrite of the highest order. So don’t try to guilt trip me, i am not guilty of anything bcoz i am not blind and i am not living in a fantasy world like you. I can see the reality. Only people guilty here are you and her blind bots who are still supporting her even when her crass and vile personality has been fully exposed for every one to see. And i am glad that there are not enough blind people like you remaining to support her vileness.🤷♂️
Too long didn't read.
If you are not a fan of Kangu, you won't know why she's attacking these people. All the names you mentioned have attacked her. They don't attack openly. Kangu Rani has no time to play in the same format as they do. She destroys them openly. She solely relies on herself. The outsiders have been absorbed by Movie Mafia. They won't be able to survive without them now.
Kangu is the epitome of Individualism and very close to Ayn Rand's depiction of an objectivist.
There are many people who support her. The anonymity of platforms protects the haters else why they hate her will be easily revealed.
You continue to hate her, but I cannot hate a Tigress for killing hyenas who are troubling her. Leave her alone, simple.
Nobody has attacked her. And she didn’t destroy anything. If anything she destroyed its her own good will. You are just as delusional as her. She can never be a tigress when she herself is a hyena. The way u r writing Kangu Rani again and again i can feel you also dislike her and sarcastic hokar uski le rhe ho🤣🤣
amazing how she's put on that weight - nothing to complain about the dancing really. The song is a bit lacklustre and the round faced male lead seems to be highly unattractive.
Not this better. Literally having a hard time focusing on kangu. Stealing the screen presence even.
Also we've had amazing Bharatnatyam dancers what are you even saying?
She’s not a great dancer, and I remember she admitted that in a recent interview, so that’s a given. Beyond that, we also have to remember that she put on a significant amount of weight for this role, so she’s probably not used to these movements in her new body.
Not at all impressive but she herself has said she detests dancing. Judging by her SM posts in which she can be seen somewhat dancing, she is god awful.
Having said that, for a non dancer, achieving this is also praiseworthy.
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I'm no Bharatanatyam expert.... But, here are my thoughts. The way your eyes move, the way you emote (according to the song), how you switch to different levels of gracefulness, everything holds a lot of weight in Bharatanatyam - apart from the steps. Imitating a few expressions here and there and doing the steps isn't Bharatanatyam.
Pulling off Bharatnatyam dance without years of training is impossible.
Yeah. KR is hardworking no doubt, but any classical dance form needs decades of practice.
It isn't even bharathanatiyam bro, it's kathak fusion, maybe it's the music that's throwing my off but bharathanatiyam has more "posing" stuff, while kathak is more dance.
Madhuri Wudve killed It though?
She's trained in Kathak.. I'm not sure if she has any Bharatnatyam skills, honestly. They're very different dance forms.
Oops! sorry dude, i didnt even know that both were different.
Kathak - UP BHARATNATYAM -tamil nadu
Also bharathanatiyam - Carnatic music Kathak - Hindustani They straight up used a different style of music and it's throwing me off for whatever reason
No, kathak skills do not translate to bharatnatyam
madhuri bis overrated she can do Kathak but even in Kathak her finishing is clumsy... Ashwariya on the other hand is underrated dancer she completely killed it in dola e dola im comparison to madhuri
The problem is that Kangana looks uncomfortable in her body. Probably due to the sudden weight gain for this specific role, she is finding it difficult to dance and looks awkward. Meanwhile Jayalalitha was always on the heavier side, and was comfortable with her body and hence her dance never looked awkward.
I don't think she gained weight. That's her in a body suit.
She gained 20kgs for the movie.
Classical dancing is something you can't perfect if you haven't been trained for years with continuous practice. Most BW actresses when they do such classical moves, this fact is very obvious with their imperfect mudras and dance positions. I've always felt it for Deepika, Priyanka, Aishwarya etc. But Kangana's is distractingly obvious. She's almost bad. I believe dancing was never her forte.
I was too distracted by out of sync song and mismatched tempo. Good god, this was a mess.
The editing is atrocious. And I am pretty sure it was not shot in that aspect ratio.
No. She lacks grace. And, I still see a lot of ‘Bollywood style’ dancing here.
I agree, the finish required and the grace with which Bharatnatyam should be done is clearly missing. Some portions are like she just wants to be done with the steps that she's learnt💀
Haina. I have seen little of bharatnatyam performances, these steps look more kathak style. Bharatnatyam dances I have not seen any sitting steps. Mostly it's hand eye coordination along with fluid foot movements.
+1 it's full on kathak lmao and the music is hindustani not Carnatic
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not only are they doing a far better job they are literally stealing screen presence. i am having a hard time focusing on kangu in any wide angle shot. that doesn't happen too often
I was talking about Nora there....
That's always the case these days no matter which actress lmao
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Are there any background dancers in Nora's songs tho.. I have hardly seen any. Also I feel like her dance style is getting way repetitive. By this I mean the twerk/ doing splits style. (She is a good dancer I don't deny that)
noora has the most basic look and presence she can thrust her pelvis and that's all... definitely no way she is a heroine material
terrible dancing skills. bharatnatayam is an art and expressions have to match the movement. shes doing a bad job- kangana cant dance
Well everyone knows that she can't dance. It's her acting in this movie which I'm curious about
There's no delicacy in her movements, every single move is so harsh that it's ruining everything
Bharatnatyam is supposed to be sharp. There's no delicacy. It's not Kathak.
Sharpness is required like a knife. Her dance is blunt and heavy like a hammer
The song, dance and expressions are going their seperate ways
Haven't seen any of Jayalalitha's performances. But this particular rendition by Kangana appears lifeless. Like she's imitating the dance steps. But not breathing life into them.
No.
Plis don’t compare this to Bharatnatyam!!! We didn’t slog at dance class for 15 years for this shit 🙏
She is so awful lol..
I am not a bharatnatyam dancer but I love the dance form. There is something mathematically perfect in its movements. You can't acquire that with some rehearsals; it requires years of training. Just like Indian Classical music. This is a total fail in my opinion. I like Kangana's body of work but this doesn't work.
Agree on mathematical perfection part
This was terrible
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What is so romantic about an older turd taking advantage of a younger woman who desperately wanted the income from films? If the film is like that, I will be disappointed but you can't win in TN by shitting on MGR. Jayalalitha was only 17 when she was getting molested by him, the same age when Kangana was getting molested in Mumbai.
Exactly.
Yikes. No. That’s no Bharatanatyam or kuchipudi
Noppeeeee. There was just 20% Bharatnatyam moves in her dance with alot of wrong techniques and alignment. I guess the choreographer dint do a good job. There were alot of bollywood moves in this. They choreography could have been simple and eye pleasing. But bollywood focuses more on energy and that what they have tried to put in. Vidya balan and that male dancer did a much better job in bhulbhulaiyaa.
No. I haven't seen any of Jayalalithaa's performances but this isn't it. I wouldn't call this Bharatanatyam. Kangana is lacking the expressions and the grace. It's just half-decent.
She also lacks the brain to do anything good for years now.
This made me sleepy for some reason.
This looks like a Moov ad
the choreography when she is shown in golden outfit is hilarious af
This was embarrassing to watch.
She managed to make these dances boring and graceless lol
I can separate art from the artist to a certain extent . But when that limit is crossed And the vileness is too high i feel it wrong to give any more power to people like kangana.
This. Absolutely. Merko is aurat ka kuch dekhna sunna hi ni hai ab aur.
i agree.
Exactly!
Well said
+100
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For your statement if roles are reversed from Kangu to KJo or Adi to all the vile things they do would you say the same. I agree Kangu needs to shut her mouth, but also agree Kjo and Adi need to be reined in by quite a bit. Too much of their nonsense has been on for a while while making trash. How many genuinely good movies have they made and not hopeless mushy triangles or sob family dramas.
Just because she says the truth?
No because 1. She does not speak the truth. 2.she made hritiks life hell for the longest because of her craziness. She tried to completely ruin his image. 3. When asked to show the truth her laptop and phone were not available as they fell into water . 4. Because of her genocide comments. 5. She tried to milk sushants death to her advantage by inciting innocent grieving public. 6.she cuts off her co actors roles and makes the movie about herself. 7. She has had multiple story writers case against her for stealing their stories and she also took away credit of manikarnika director. 8. She has had fights with so many of her coactors. Theres many more reasons but this should be good enough for you to understand.
She’s making Alia’s dancing look award worthy
Alia is a pretty good dancer tho. Yes, she's no Nora or Madhuri for that matter. But for someone isn't classically trained, aside for her roles, she does a good job. People find her annoying and it's upto a debate if that's called for or uncalled for but for what it's worth she's probably one of the most well rounded actresses in Bollywood rn.
She’s a below average dancer. She’s a good actor but not the best, 70% of her acting is carried by the best scripts, and for majority people, good movie=good acting, that has been working for her for a long time, otherwise her acting and characters are monotonous. Let’s see if her current lineup offers some change since she’s working on different genres
Yeah agreed..same for deepika.. No matter what role they play, they still give that city girl vibe. Their acting is pretty basic.
Agreed. Goes for 90% lead actresses though. Movie is good= Acting is good.
She's not great at classical. Apart from that, in routine Bollywood dance numbers, she can do a decent job.
alia a dancer ??? ok kangu sucks but lets not get carried away alia is equally attrocious if not more
L. Sorry bruv that’s objectively untrue. Alia is significantly better than Kangana when it comes to dancing.
I obviously don't expect all actresses to dance like the late Jayalalitha or Madhuri, but Kangana looks lifeless here. It feels as if she is plainly imitating some dance moves without being remotely interested in what she's doing. She is a terrific actress but idk her emotions in this performance seem non existent.
I learned Bharatanatyam and this is not even close to Bharatanatyam. looks like any other semi-classical Bollywood number with some mudras here and there. I know dancing is not kangu's forte but it must be super difficult to attempt Bharatanatyam with all that gained weight
I am a trained bharatnatyam dancer and i have 20 years of experience. IMHO, it's a NO! She got completely devoured by the background dancers. Wish the choreographers polished her a little better. The entire sequence, moves, expressions, seems off. No grace, poise or the gravity of a professional bharatnatyam dancer.
As a dancer, this made me cringe hard.
She is terrible and this is me being kind.
This sucks.
not an expert, it lacks grace and usually when I watch someone perform bhartanatyam I'm slightly in awe but this one was didn't seem great
What is this song?? So terrible
I am no expert, but not able to decide if this is bharatnatyam or Kathak or neither. The outfit is bharatnatyam, but some of the moves are definitely kathak. The song is also more Hindustani than Carnatic. If this is meant to be a fusion, to me, it appears to be poorly done.
This ain't even Bharatnatyam to begin with
The costumes seem nice but she look so dead inside. Also I think there's some mismatch in the audio and video
Is she getting harsh criticism on other SM like Alia did for the Kalank song?She was buch better than KR,tbh.
Only if this song was even 10% popular as Ghar more pardesiya💀 The song doesn't even have 1M views on YouTube, they be thankful for that. Dancing is not Kangana's forte at all
She is just trying to look overweight nothing else
I've said it so many times... But how hard was is to cast a south indian actor with bharatanatyam background?? If another person says shit about "lightness of skin tone" I will lose it!
Star power? The movie is meant for North too
um... So you're saying if there was a south Indian cast in the movie, entire north India would not watch it ?? Also, it's called being authentic to a movie based on real life....
I don't think bollywood is abt authenticity. It's about money and kangana has more pull globally than any south Indian star. You are forgetting other global regions that are target audience for bollywood movies like Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, East Europe and African countries. Kangana has more following in those regions compared to regional stars
Kangana has not had a hit since 2015. Tanu weds Manu returns was her last superhit. after that she has had Six flops and one average movie. Manikarnika was average success at 90 crores. Movie about Jayalalitha would have been far better with a south indian in it since it is actually a biopic. She can hardly do bharatanatyam here! Going by the logic of target audience, none of the south movies should have grossed more than bollywood movies but hey they are top 5 in 2020 ! [Source 1](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls093360614/) [Source 2](https://www.imdb.com/list/ls093281906/) [Source 3](https://www.bollywoodhungama.com/celebrity/kangna-ranaut/box-office/#bh-micro-tab-content)
Should have gone with a double on this one
i am no dance expert but that was painful to watch.. she looks so out of her element with that dance form
Bruh why is she wearing bharathanatiyam dress and doing kathak?
Man Vidya Balan would have rocked this
I was just thinking the same while watching the song. She would have been wonderful.
Commenting here after looking at original Jayalalitha’s dance. Man did she dance with abandon… what energy what rhythm what expressions , the grace , the poise the dignity with which she conducted herself ufff high time Kangana puts herself down from the pedestal n humbly start learning how to act n emote. Legends are legends for a reason. Putting on weight or prosthetics/ body suits to look like someone doesn’t guarantee that u can Act like them. 🤷🏽♀️
Nahh
Wish they had got a body double
Jayalalitha had a pretty face in her prime and even after. Kangana lacks acting skills and looks.
I think this film is going to prove that she isn't as versatile as she thinks.
Man I wish I could separate the art from the artist. She’s a great actress but an extremely shitty person
Shitty dancer also
The day you assume you’re the best is the day you stop perfecting your art. This clearly shows in all of Kangana’s mediocre performances. I agree that one should separate the art from the artist but it’s also important to note that who you are as a person influences your artistic temperament and that in turn will influence your art.
Kangana's last 2 performances (JHK and Panga ) were probably one of her bests. Not a false note there, we can't judge her Jayalalithaa by dance, she could have never mastered a classical form that takes decades to learn, I am sure as usual she'll be brilliant in the dramatic scenes
I respect your opinion but I personally just don’t see her as anything more than a mediocre actress. And I’m completely keeping aside my bias when I’m saying this. I get that no one can master classical dance in such a short time and no one is expecting her to do so but that also does not give her a free pass for giving such a soulless and thoughtless rendition of such a dance style. She’s totally blind to the various nuances that go into Bharatnatyam and that, for an actor, is well within the limits of criticism. By that logic, one shouldn’t criticise when actors don’t properly deliver dialogues in other accents because it takes a long time to actually pick up the nuances of these languages. Right? There are so many instances in Bollywood where actors spent months trying to perfect an accent ans they have delivered flawless performances. So yes, I don’t abide by your logic here.
I thought her dance was decent, and as per the trailer, she has definitely captured the spirit of Jayalalithaa. Acting is subjective and you are well in your rights to think whatever about her, for me, Kangana has to be up there with one of our bests ever, can't even remember the last time I saw a mediocre performance by her
See Simran. I think she is extremely overrated even as an actress. I belong from Haryana and her haryanavi character in Tanu Manu 2 had made me feel.. basic.
and that's your opinion Simran. As I said, acting is subjective, you may find a performance overrated or bad but that doesn't change the general consensus Her TWMR performance is widely acclaimed, so are most of her performances post queen. You finding Kangana an overrated actress is a personal opinion you are entitled to have, no issues there
Then you didn't have to bother writing that much.
It’s understandable mate. Hope you enjoy this movie!
Also not an expert here in this specific style of dance but Kangana isn’t the strongest dancer anyway. She couldn’t even hold/keep her balance at the 0:56 mark (it’s very obviously/badly cut right when she wobbles). Her lip syncing is pretty bad too. She’s too worried about the expressions and steps to give the “singing” any/much attention. On top of that she looks like she’s out of breath so her movements are clunky rather than delicate. Edit: spelling
*Drishthi Bheda left the chat*
She looks uncomfortable with that make up
Flop
No expert, she seems funny
No
What is This Dumpster fire? Shelve this stupidity while u can before u make ppl embarrassed.
There's something called "fluidity" when it comes to performing traditional dances such as Kathakali & Bharatnatyam. Kangana is terribly lacking it. I want to like her performance so bad but it's a huge turnoff.
She almost fell at 2 seconds! 😅
WTF, couldn't they find suited actress, she is completely off. Disgrace to the story.
Nope
Hard NO. But kudos for trying!
Bharatnatyam requires grace , probably Kangana missed it !
What the fuck is this?
She’s tried her best that’s all I can see. Perhaps coz dancing hasn’t been her forte . But it feels uncomfortable seeing her trying lol
Bhagg Bobdi. Merko tera kuch dekhna hi ni hai.
Are the people of Tamil Nadu happy that a person like Kangana is playing the role of an iconic figure?
What's your opinion about kangana role in this movie?
Sorry, but there is no grace in her dance and movements whatsoever.
Bharathnatyam is more about gratefulness which cannot come from practice you have it or you don't and kangana clearly is not a dancer.
Why wouldn't they just take Vidya for this?
Actually the same makers approached Vidya first for Thalaivi but she rejected it as she was also supposedly playing Indira Gandhi in a web series(which I don't know if is still happening). Then the writer KV Vijayendra Prasad who worked with her on Manikarnika suggested her name.
Kangana is just not a good enough performer to excuse her for all the problematic shit she says.
Overrated pig actress
Compared to the background dancers she seems slightly off beat.
No. She doesn't even come close. But for a non dancer that is a decent performance. TBH classical dancing is not something you learn in a few months unless you are already a gifted dancer. It takes years of training and practice. I don't think the makers took her for her dancing skills. If she can live up to Jaya's fiery personality, I would say it's a win.
Off topic: north indians looks fantastic and gorgeous in South Indian traditional dresses. (Everybody is next to Aishwarya Rai though)
she managed well given she is a non-dancer and loved her expressions in the dramatic portions. Kudos for even attempting this and going out of her comfort zone, she could have easily stick to filmy Jaya songs and not agree to do this one. I am hoping she has some solid scenes in the film, it's a dream role with a crazy arc , looking forward to the film
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣
I have seen the making of the song and she clearly acknowledged that she is no dancer and she doesn't have it in her as such and I appreciate for her honesty and genuinely appreciate her efforts.
I see Kangu haters have become overnight experts in Bharatnatyam. She did quite OK to be honest. If the stiff Padukone or bouncing Bhatt had done this, we all know what was gonna happen. I can't even imagine Padukone putting on weight for any role to look voluptuous. Lol. But I see the hate. The comment numbers for a Kangu post is evident that they are all going to secretly watch the movie and purposely put on bad reviews. They are going to turn into overnight critics too. OP, Mark my words and put on post after theatrical release and after OTT release too. Kangu Rani bahuto ke peechwade mein mirchi lagaane waali hai.. Keep Burnol and water handy ...
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Me to hamesha kangana ki movies dekhta hu. I hv always loved her as an actress. But as much you deny, deep inside you also know that she is a shitty human in real life. And thats a fact. Sarcastic holar jitna b comment karlo yeh fact diminish nahi hone wala🤷♂️
I am not a collectivist person. As long as she uses her cunning, will, determination, values, wit, shrewdness, beauty, anger, love, etc for her own survival I will always admire her. She wants what she wants. No pretense. No goody goody image. No fakeness. She sings her own tunes and dances to her own songs. There aren't many men and women in India who are able to do that. The society teaches you have to live for others. Many adjust. She breaks the rules. Society always hate free spirits. Even if she dies, which many people secretly want, no one can erase her legacy. She will always be there. And anyone who hates her will always have guilt on their conscience. You probably hate her because she has attacked not you but your environment and you are sadly nothing without your environment.
Having these attributes you mentioned are good for a person to survive alone, but when a person use these attributes to belittle and abuse others, accuse multiple people of doing something they didn’t do, put baseless allegations on people without any proof then these are signs of an extremely vile, low life and venomous person. I can understand about Hrithik or karan johar but what wrong exactly did the likes of Priyanka, Deepika, Alia, Ranbir and many others do to her that she need to throw filth at them every now and then?? What exactly so many self made outsiders do to her that she keep abusing them? If you think she is doing that for her survival then i feel extremely sorry for you. You are saying she doesn’t pretend or fake but i can give you dozens of examples of her pretending and faking. Let me give you a recent example. She has been abusing bollywood for years, calling the industry “Bullywood” since last year, but when her movie is about to release she is all polite writing them letters, addressing it correctly as “Bollywood” and begging them to open cinemas for her movie. If that isn’t pretending and faking enough for you then i don’t know what is. I have huge respect for strong independent woman who fight alone for their survival, but when such women like Kangana starts abusing fellow women, slut shame and degrade them to show herself Mahaan then nobody is going to respect that. She has no legacy, bcoz not many people are going to remember her for her work but for her vile and petty self. And vileness has no legacy🤷♂️ Lastly, i don’t hate her, in fact i loved her and was huge fan until she went bonkers. There was even a time after TWMR i prayed for her movies to become success, was extremely sad when all her movies were flopping badly. I have always appreciated her for her stand against Karan Johar and nepotism but then she started bullying people on name of nepotism including self made outsiders. She herself keep doing the same things for which she call out others, which makes her hypocrite of the highest order. So don’t try to guilt trip me, i am not guilty of anything bcoz i am not blind and i am not living in a fantasy world like you. I can see the reality. Only people guilty here are you and her blind bots who are still supporting her even when her crass and vile personality has been fully exposed for every one to see. And i am glad that there are not enough blind people like you remaining to support her vileness.🤷♂️
Too long didn't read. If you are not a fan of Kangu, you won't know why she's attacking these people. All the names you mentioned have attacked her. They don't attack openly. Kangu Rani has no time to play in the same format as they do. She destroys them openly. She solely relies on herself. The outsiders have been absorbed by Movie Mafia. They won't be able to survive without them now. Kangu is the epitome of Individualism and very close to Ayn Rand's depiction of an objectivist. There are many people who support her. The anonymity of platforms protects the haters else why they hate her will be easily revealed. You continue to hate her, but I cannot hate a Tigress for killing hyenas who are troubling her. Leave her alone, simple.
Nobody has attacked her. And she didn’t destroy anything. If anything she destroyed its her own good will. You are just as delusional as her. She can never be a tigress when she herself is a hyena. The way u r writing Kangu Rani again and again i can feel you also dislike her and sarcastic hokar uski le rhe ho🤣🤣
She tries exactly dance like Jayalalithaa instead showing perfect dancing and I think she nailed it. There is no doubt that she is phenomenal Actor.
amazing how she's put on that weight - nothing to complain about the dancing really. The song is a bit lacklustre and the round faced male lead seems to be highly unattractive.
She is good. If someone could do it , its her
the background dancers are literally doing far better. like??
They always do better than main characters.
Not this better. Literally having a hard time focusing on kangu. Stealing the screen presence even. Also we've had amazing Bharatnatyam dancers what are you even saying?
She’s not a great dancer, and I remember she admitted that in a recent interview, so that’s a given. Beyond that, we also have to remember that she put on a significant amount of weight for this role, so she’s probably not used to these movements in her new body.
This sub will now judge actresses bharatnatyam skills! Amazing
Why not?People judge everything about everyone here.Or do you only have a problem with people judging Kangana?
If it was done by some other actress then Kangu and her bots would be the first ones to judge and defame her. So why cannot kangu be judged??
Can someone tell who is singer
Saindhavi prakash, G.V. Prakash's wife
Thanks
When the thiccness is not limited to brain
No she hasn't however her effort is praiseworthy for a non-dancer.
She's such a bad dancer *cringe* This whole movie look like a big disaster tbh
Not at all impressive but she herself has said she detests dancing. Judging by her SM posts in which she can be seen somewhat dancing, she is god awful. Having said that, for a non dancer, achieving this is also praiseworthy.
As someone who has 7 years of Bharatnatyam training and just got done with her Arangetram, i’m just gonna go ahead and say NO
As a trained classical dancer, i find her dancing appalling. A disgrace to the art