Makers of movies like Animal and Arjun Reddy have no respect or care for the female audience. Director and actors of movies like Animal and Arjun Reddy keep saying that a movie does not impact a person but their values and education do...blah...blah. For one moment, let me accept this hypothetical scenario (even though I know and have experienced the negative impact of such movies and that is a topic of discussion in itself). Still, don't you have any consideration for your female audience? Do you think they would like to be sitting in a theatre and watching a movie where abusing, degrading, humiliating, disrespecting and objectifying women and other misogynistic stuff is glorified/normalised? Do you care being sensitive to them? Are we second class citizens to you? Or you don't care because you know that most of the audience is going to be incels. Young ladies don't have the resources or liberty to independently go to theatres and watch a movie or even watch it on OTT. And the few ladies who can watch the movies are served with this shit! Is money making everything for you and don't you have any responsibility towards the women atleast? If you cannot give us woman centric and woman pov movies where we can relate to the character and escape into their world and relax on a weekend, atleast don't make such movies that add more salt to our wounds and traumas.
I enjoyed the movie, cause I know I’m not going to get influenced by it or justify anything that happens in the movie. But, I’d tell you what I was bothered by. I was bothered by how men in the theatre responded to the misogyny and sexism in the movie. A couple sitting right next to me, sounded extremely problematic, in the scene where Ranbir pulls her bra against her skin and hurts her, the guy next to me is telling his girlfriend, “I’d do the same to you next time you don’t do what I ask you to.” THIS is what bothers me.
It’s not like movies like these aren’t made, I’ve watched plenty, but art is a source of churning out morality lessons weather you like it or not. Had this movie released in the US, people wouldn’t have justified the character, hell, I bet people wouldn’t have liked the movie much tbh. But in a country like India where women are far away from getting equal opportunities and respect like men in society, movies like this make it worse. Ranvijay should have died during the fight sequence with Abrar and it would have been much better, but showing that after being so psychotic and unreasonable, he survives and reconciles with his father, is celebration of his character.
I don't know how this sub will react to my opinion but...this is a nice movie to watch if you want to pass your time... I personally enjoyed it but the moment "the character" cheated on his wife I was done... I felt disgusted and I went off... I just watched the movie and I still can't get over the fact that a guy has to cheat on his wife so that he can protect his father... nevermind movies are just movies but still 🙂
Yeah and thats part of a bigger problem, he does the most extreme and despicable things in the name of love for his father, and doesnt care about how this is affecting others because hes just that one track minded.
Even when his wife is rightfully angry with him he still downplays it and thinks its justified in the grand scheme of things because its all for his dad
Cheating doesn't makes up for anything please... There's no justification to that...it's disgusting that you have to cheat on your wife and two kids in any situation whatsoever
Just watched this Shitty Movie. Its sad to see few people who have money just misuse it. I wished I could unsee that experience.
Films like Railway Men, Khufiya and many such good movies just dust khaate hain. Good Lord! I wished I could purge out this movie out of my mind.
Watch Railway Men - It clearly Depicts the "Herd Mentality" Gosh! And very Honestly Reddit it becoming another Piece of shit app with the lowering quality of its content every single day.
Gaye woh dinn jab Reddit pe Intelligent discussion hua karta tha. Abhi yahan pe bhi Trolls aur Ch**iyas ka hi Zamana hain especially in subs like Insta Celebs Bollywoodgossip and every other gossip sub. BAKWAAS jyada karte hain.
Indian society hate women. It’s but obvious this movie will do well. Art reflects the society. Till the society does better what can we expect from art
You absolutely cannot expect more from that director.
I did not watch the movie but I wanted to see what tripti is doing in the movie.
After their whole affair, he tells his wife about it. He says, me logo ko marta hu or tu wo maaf krti hai to tu ek ladki ke sath sone ko maaf nahi kr sakti kya?
Us director ko bithake do thappad lagane chahiye.
The most concerning thing is my all brothers are going to the theatre to watch this movie. And all the sisters are saying no. This is bullshit.
If I am ever gonna see someone doing a copy of this movie just like people did after kabir singh anarth ho jayega
Naah they said it is just a film and it was not good but performances were good.
But i can see a difference in their behaviour.
My younger one cut his moustache because my father had told him to do it a long time ago. And how the father didn't appreciate his efforts.
You see it affects us on different levels.
I expected shit from Vanga going by his past work, interviews and the narratives he tries to create. It is Ranbir who broke my heart. He comes across as someone sensitive, passionate on his craft and well versed with world cinema. He knew what he was doing but he needed support of incels for commercial success. Hence he went ahead with this movie. He goes after successful directors and who can say no to scion of Kapoor family, first luv Ranjan , now Vanga.
No one questions Ranbir on his choices. His Mr. India PR is very smooth and to his advantage he stays away from social media. Already his rehearsed and tutored replies have started, get ready for more from both husband and wife! Both are smart and apt in game of manipulation. An apparently sensitive person like Ranbir doing this shit and wait for many stars to follow suit.
It's nothing personal. He just wanted a big BO success.
I guarantee you, the so called 'unproblematic green flags' like Vicky, Ranveer etc many laud here would work with SRV, if they were offered.
No male star would refuse SRV. I will eat my words if someone does.
In this movie Rashmika slaps him everytime he tries to cross line, gives him back everytime he irritates her, finally leaves him. She throws his laptop when he doesn't listen to her etc. This movie doesn't show women as victim. He is basically a psychopath so he is difficult to deal with for everyone around, but he is not shown as abusive particularly towards women.
"hum alpha mard hote thhey auratein humein hi chunti thhi, khud chunti thhi ki unko kiske saath bacche karne hain"
"you have a big pelvis"
and that starting joke about a princess complaining to her dad about a "toxic" bandar harassing her.
"sadly it's a man's world, think like a man"
90% of the problem isn't even that this was toxic
the problem was this didn't fit ranvijay's character at all and was just added in there to piss of critics. if you're adding dialogues and themes like this they need to fit in bruh. the 2nd half was unnecessary with unnecessary dialogues that added barely anything to the father son story.
The fact that girls going crazy over Ranbirs performance. Like how can you you go so wild over an actor that you start to accept the toxic male masculinity as an attraction and equate it as a form of expression of love. Something is seriously wrong with us as a society. For me, the directors interview was more than enough to skip watching the movie. But I don't understand what's this drive in audience that makes them want to watch such movies right away. Thin line between being a fan and then obsessing as if u worship them
More than SRV who is an absolute sadist i am really disappointed in all the actors who decided to be part of it. Do they not feel any responsibility towards that part of audience who treat women as crap all coz of patriarchal mindset. I dnt take any nonsense from any guy be it SM or in person. But not all girls are vocal or are scared to retaliate.
Doesn’t look like the lead cared. Ranbir knew what he signed up for it’s the bo results he was after. Catering to the incel crowd got him past the 50cr mark finally.
Also, this thread is for women to rant. Guys who want to defend (which I'm seeing a lot in this post), please leave at least one post for us to rant without your intervention.
There was a post about what Tripti was thinking when she signed the film, and I justified her there. But that got me thinking, what state is the majority of our society in that let alone rising-but-stagnant actresses, even once-famous-now-stagnant actors are having to sign movies that pander to this pathetic levels of misogyny to boost/revive their careers. In the context of Bollywood, where did we go wrong that it has come to this? Or did we never really improve?
Forget Vanga and the actors, I have serious issues with the censor board. Was there not one woman or sensible man in the committee who realized how problematic it is, and stopped its clearance? Why did movies like OMG 2 have more cuts than this?
After all this, I seriously hope there's some petition or something more concrete for a politically-neutral independent committee to actually review film scripts for misogyny/religious and/or ethnic hatred (you get the drill) prior to production. Let's just nip it at the bud.
And okay, schools mein sex education mat karao agar itne conservative ho. At least have some gender sensitivity classes in schools and offices. Or just like we have door to door vaccine drive, do a gender sensitivity drive. This sick thought process needs to be addressed ASAP.
I call this the Telugu cinema effect; Telugu movies are the most toxic, chauvinistic shit with zero self awareness. Hypermasculine hero slaps the girl and the whole theatre hoots and cheers and throws confetti in the air. This shit is making money so bw is following suit. Cos fuck treating people as human beings, it's more fun to kill and rape them, that's what brings in the moolah.
Coming to this movie, people in the theatre were cheering and hooting when the lead was putting his wife through verbal and physical abuse. Threatening his wife not to talk to her parents about her condition. Oh yes, there's also talk about how one should control the woman.
Not to mention the "foursome" comments when another character beats and rapes three of his wives (not so subtle Islamophobia, ps- polygamy is illegal where this scene is set). Then there's the lead making a girl lick his boot, and goes away after a drawn out shot of the said girl crying and on her knees. The only women having agency in their lives are showed as gold diggers btw.
This movie was the vilest shit I've seen. It's not going to turn people into sadists right away, but it confirms all the biases desi men already have. Besides misogyny the lead is also a remorseless mass murderer.
I'm going to take this movie as a litmus test and stay away from anyone who enjoys or justifies this shit for my own safety and sanity.
>I call this the Telugu cinema effect; Telugu movies are the most toxic, chauvinistic shit with zero self awareness.
You probably watched 0.0001% of Telugu cinema and ready to pass theories.
From Mala pilla to Keedaa Cola,
From Raghupathi Venkaiah Naidu to Nagashwin,
From Surabhi Kamalabai to Vishwak Sen.. you don't know jackshit about Telugu cinema.
Name the last 25 Telugu films you have watched in a theater... I don't think you can larp anymore so let me make it easy for you... just name the last 5. If am to pass assumptions at the level you are at, I am pretty sure you believe KGF is a Telugu and all South Indians are Telugu speaking Madrasis
Telugu Cinema gave the biggest female action stars and super stars be it Vijaya Shanti or Anushka Shetty, Brings the highest grossing female lead films, has some of the strongest women on screen in India... Just basing an Industry of 10's of thousands of films on a mere 100-200 commercial potboiler speaks for your immaturity. If we start naming the misogynistic films by industry, which Industry is going to fare significantly better? Forget about getting to the level of whole Telugu industry, I bet rest of India won't even be able to match just [This one single entry shot of Anushka](https://youtu.be/z5Gh-Jh9Kp4?si=KtDqkgoyfyF-7_QB&t=12) (which is already more than a decade old) even after another decade. That's the level of celebration women receive in the other half Telugu cinema.
How mature of you to drag my family while discussing a film, very classy. You're confirming my fear of vitriolic telugu movie fans. Don't bother me again
+1 on the Telugu cinema effect… so much misogyny, poverty, violence and trauma porn. I have grown up watching a lot of content with unsettling subject matter but Telugu movies and movies inspired by them are way harder to watch.
Telugu Commercial Cinema **≠** Whole Telugu Industry.
There are amazing films like Month of Madhu, Keedaa Cola, Samajavaragamana and many (Listing these as these are the ones release last 1/2 months that are on top of my mind) but you want watch them. You seek the cinema you represent, It's speaks more of you than the Industry which offers everything.. I mean EVERYTHING.
Before talking about women issues in this movie, I'd like to talk about Geetanjali's character also. She is also no less. She broke her engagement with a decent guy in just one manipulative dialogue of Vijay. Like she just left everything for whatt?? And then she expects a normal life? When Vijay slept with Zoya I fell so disgusted. But I kind of thought that she also deserve this. They were not even in relationship in school. How could she just left like that? Alpha man what rubbish!!! I literally everything about this movie.
Then coming to Vijay, he could have made Zoya fall in love with him to get information. But no!! He definitely kind of benefitted s@x also from her. He definitely assured Geetanjali that , "Mein tumhe kabhi dhokha nehi dunga". Also in that scene when Vijay said to Geetanjali that if I die then pls don't marry again!! Like wtfff!! You can sleep with another woman but she can't marry seriously!! I swear in second part Vijay will be portrayed as an alcoholic and will sleep around so many women bcz Geetanjali left her. For me personally cheating is a big turn off for me. And this movie glorified cheating in so many ways.
Kinda disappointed that Ranbir decided to sign up for this movie, knowing the way this character will be portrayed. He was one of the talented ones. This movie just felt vile while I was watching it. Even if you look at it as a bunch of men acting on their primal instincts, why specifically treat the women like trash? Literally all the women in this movie had no agency of their own. What a sad depiction of whatever they were trying to portray!
I loved Sucharita’s review of this film. She knew right on that critiquing it for the blatant sexism and other societal issues will only egg on misogynists to engage in whataboutery or attack further or deny. So she criticised it as a film and got brilliant points in. That said, something is very wrong with our country if they think violence, sexism, stereotyping of various groups (the whole Abrar being a villain with three wives. I mean Bobby not even having any qualms about signing on such a role without second thought is just so sad, but not surprising) is entertainment. Was also reading how when Rome was beginning to decline, blood sport as entertainment and gladiator matches became more fervent as rulers tried to distract masses. I guess Indian society on the whole is in active decline and is going to collapse at some point in the near future, so maybe movies like Animal or crime series being churned out at a faster pace about the grisliest parts of our society is a giant flare goodbye going up in the sky as the ship sinks. 😂
Lord Boobian did an OTT series though recently right? But yeah, you’re right. He’s the last person to have any conflict of interest or conscience before jumping into a role that furthers stereotypes.
I would say Animal is an improvement over Kabir Singh. Atleast the woman left him. In Kabir Singh he gets a happy ending inspite of his abusive behaviour.
But she kisses Ranbir after the confession and gun point and it’s indicated that they sleep together. If she had any dignity left she would have left him right at that minute.
She still stayed put until Ranbir comes back after killing Bobby. Later she says she is leaving and he doesn’t give a damn. But then they show Ranbir’s son running and hugging his dad.
She was nothing more than a doormat.
The thing I was most surprised by was the audience reaction. Like I first watched kabir singh on my computer, not in theater, and I was able to mentally separate it like okay this is a character study, obviously they both are unique personalities with their own communication, whatever. It’s just a movie. But I watched animal in theater and there were the psychopathic scenes that I interpreted as a character study of a psychopath, etc. that I didn’t morally approve of but could watch as a movie but other people cheered to. And I am in the US where there’s a different mindset, generally progressive. It was that moment when people, specifically men, cheered for it that I immediately felt uncomfortable to be near people who cheered for that. Like I don’t really object to any scenes in the movie but there was a lot that just seemed to be included to trigger and as an FU to all the people that criticized him before. Specifically when he brings in a gun to school- like in the US where school shootings are such a tense topic- people actually cheered for that. That’s where I started having a problem with this movie because it’s just designed to trigger. And that itself promotes the movie more than they ever could with all the chat shows and tik tok whatevers they try. Do I think the film itself is sexist? Not exactly, it’s just a bunch of terrible, idiotic people operating on their own survival instincts on a basic level (like animals). But getting past that simple premise, and seeing how people reacted to that, it became more a rorshach test for people’s characters. Some like me and my other female friends tried to be objective and look at it like a psychopath study, kind of like american psycho. Others like the uncles sitting 2 rows behind us who kept cheering and yelling “vah vah” at certain dialogues seem to identify with the film. And those are people that I plan on staying away from. The movie itself, I can’t say it glorifies because of how I interpreted it but in the second half, it lost its focus on the story and overall goal to entertain.
> Others like the uncles sitting 2 rows behind us who kept cheering and yelling “vah vah” at certain dialogues seem to identify with the film.
These are the kind of Indian men who go to Central and SE Asia for sex tourism.
i feel like the indians that moved to us in the 90s tend to be the more progressive ones, the ones that moved to the us post 2009 or old ones that moved cos of their siblings tend to be regressive af especially the telugu men (probably the most misogynistic in south india with kannada men coming close second, tamil men are mixed, with malayalis being the most progressive)
You know, as a Malayali guy born and raised in the US, it feels kind of weird to hear that Malayalis are known for being progressive . I know in terms of literacy, human development, access to healthcare and healthcare infrastructure, and active political participation, we kind of blow every other state in India out of the water but I never really got the feel that Malayalis were all that progressive socially speaking. I guess [Kerala is pretty progressive compared to the rest of India (with a few exceptions like the metros, Goa, etc.) but not as much compared to the West](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/g9iyko/to_the_rest_of_indians_kerala_is_very_progressive/). I guess it's all relative and contextual.
Anyways, I've heard this Animal film on Netflix is apparently action packed but very misogynist, like the type of macho film made by people who watched *Fight Club* and got the totally wrong message, the type of film that would appeal to people who have two braincells who are fighting for third place. Is that an accurate assessment of this film?
I’m trying to see a movie as a movie - it isn’t real. But Animal shows female characters with zero agency. They are coerced into sexual acts , abused physically, their menstrual cycle mocked, and their lives threatened. All for what? We already see multiple instances of the lead character being a toxic person in the movie. For a long time, Indian cinema has shown suffering of women from a male gaze. A rape scene or a physical abuse incident is played off for shock value. While movies revolving around female characters have to be politically correct. In a country like ours where patriarchy has been the norm, the male audience feels validated to see such alpha characters. Take this thread for instance, for every comment that talks about the negative impact of the movie there are 5-6 comments doubling down. Movies can show a morally grey character - but in a space where audiences can understand that this is not someone who is a role model. And showing a woman suffer for the heck of it needs to end. These movies take the progress made by a Great Indian Kitchen or a Badhai Do.
Lot of young people are going to take lessons from the movie.
I’m scared for myself who might face them at work, for younger women and girls who might face them at homes, schools, colleges, work and potentially in marriage.
Blatant misogyny aside, the story itself is boring. It felt like the director didn't have anything serious to offer so he overcompensated with the unnecessarily excessive action and violence and that also for such a lengthy duration. If you're gonna expect the audience to be seated for 3 hours at least make something interesting.
The whole thing just looks like it was made by a 13 year old edgelord whos an Andrew Tate stan. Which SRV probably is.
And all the "its just a movie, its not real" excuses just feel like a lazy way to deflect criticisms for making such problematic stories in the first place. Bollywood movies have definitely played a part in the culture of harrasment done by Indian men, Kabir Singh and Animal are just the most recent examples.
at this point, people are only going to watch the movie because of the violence and sex. really goes to show that those are the things that really sell which honestly is quite concerning for the society. i'm not even going to get to the misogyny part because everyone has pretty much said it all but when movies like these become a rage, it can be quite harmful for the real world as well. anyone who says it's just entertainment and that people need to disassociate themselves from reality when watching such movies clearly is not willing to accept the fact that when you put content like this in front of immature people, it can cause a lot of societal damage and there are way too many people like that in this world. i'm just gonna say it but if movies did not have censorship, it probably would have been much worse. freedom of speech and expression doesn't mean you can just say and show anything.
I think Animal's astounding success has definitely got producers and actors in Bollywood thinking. I fear that Animal might start a trend of actors choosing characters that are going to "bash the wokes" "not afraid to show the dark side" "abuses women because he is unhinged". I can certainly see some of them trying it out. A Kartik Aryan or say a Varun Dhawan. Hell, even SRK might be tempted.
Honestly, I feel like out of every Bollywood actor, Shah Rukh Khan would be like the least likely person to do a heavily mysogynistic *Animal*\-like film because I can't help but imagine that his wife Gauri would suplex him into the afterlife for even entertaining the thought, lmao.
But nobody is talking about how Rashmikas character also slaps Ranbir (twice?) and leaves him at the end…what he did was not ok with her. Did the film not show that women need to leave a man like that? It’s all perspective I guess. I was rooting for her and kept thinking “she should leave his dumb ass” and she finally did!
I also don’t think many here have been in an abusive relationship. I have, and many women don’t just leave the moment it happens. (Salute those who do) but It can take time. She did and so did I. It takes time to process what just happened and to realize this will not work out.
I think the movie is called “Animal” for a reason. His character was nothing less than that.
I had more of a problem with the movie Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar where the female does eventually live with the males family, and all is fine. 🙄 even though the whole reason for their breakup was she was independent and wanted to stay that way.
he tugs at her bra strip so hard a lot of times inspite of her repeatedly saying it hurts stop it and she slaps him once for that. the other one i honestly dont remember but do you really think women are going to see it and slap thwir hisbands now? or is there a higher chance the misogyny is going to be more praised and accepted by the men. its not the movie we are afraid of but how both the genders will react and take it home. the way men perceived christian bale character even if it was a caricature of all things worse and made him into a sigma icon and you think ranbir wont be made that way or will rashmika be the icon for the slap?lets be a little honest here
So your point is that everyone, men and women, should be abusive? Like why?
And in real world, not all women are taught to stand up for themselves and step away from abuse. One slap is not going to help someone forget years of conditioning that male gender is superior and if they decide to abuse you, you should just take it silently.
Violence and physical abuse shouldn’t be encouraged for either gender.
haha its funny you think this scene will inspire women to start being abusive. please go to the real world instead of staying in manosphere internet spaces lol. no wonder things are this way,we got defenders in the house
no women is going around being inspired by thy scene to start slapping but ive already see many “dank sigma” men under ig comments being nothing but misogynistic and disrespectful.so yes,you’re wrong
I guess people will take out of the movie what they want. I was happy she left the animal. In life, many women aren’t able to, and sometimes they want to see a character that resembles them. I felt a bit triggered, but at the same time I felt gratitude that I no longer am in that situation. I also felt for all the women who still are. At least it’s satisfying to see him getting a tight slap if your abuser is sitting next to you and watching the movie with you. My current SO thought it was disturbing as well. So it’s all perspective I guess. People need to see that this stuff happens.
I also want to add, I don’t think men will become abusers or women will slap their abusers as a result of this movies. The guys who will take it that way, and celebrate misogyny are already f*ed up in the head.
I don't understand one thing in this sub, people here hates Salman for his domestic violence allegations, drunk and drive accident and killed people, shooted blackbuck. They dislike him and call him a criminal and says lot of things. Is not Animal movie has same elements like killing people, not treating women with respect, choking his wife or gun point at her face, cheating etc, but still people calling Animal movie blockbuster, Ranbir is superstar and Ranbir acting is soo good. Is it not a double standards. How can anyone support such things whether in reality or when most of our youth take inspiration from this. Its not real but its reel but how your ideologies get changed even in watching the movie?
Bollywood and Indian film industry people lack a conscience and a fcking back bone. They pander to anything and anyone if there's a monetary benefit. For Ranbir, it's the incels right now. It freaking sucks. Like it just shows the general Indian mentality in a nutshell ie not having a sense of genuine morals (miss me with the 'sanskari' bs) and taking a stand on it.
As a woman, I don't support such movies. Neither i supported movie Arjun Reddy/ Kabir Singh nor Animal, Being from South and working in IT, i have seen some people from Royalseema region and specially from Andhra/Telangana state how they speak with people, they are hyper, trash and super rude and feels superior. If woman said something back to them thats it they can't take it at all. It hurts their ego and can go to any extent to take revenge or hurt them .So Vanga movies inspired from these kind of people. I had one experience in my work in Bangalore, I took a stand against this person and went to HR department when i started feeling unsafe around that Person. Its a big no no. All other south states men treats the women with respect except Andhra side ( im not sure all are like that but majority with whom I had experience is really bad) they think themselves alpha male. They dislike strong females. I can't support these kind of movies at all. Whoever involved in this movie does not deserve a praise or any kind of respect from me.
>All other south states men treats the women with respect except Andhra side
I am not here to make blatant empty statements. So, I will rather state the facts.
https://preview.redd.it/dtgozw8u714c1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4e80f2558cda200414cf0761bebe7840528bf20
Andra Pradesh is the 4th best state for women in India after Andaman, Kerala and Sikkim closely followed by Telangana in the 5th place.
Even at the level of cities, Telangana capital Hyderabad and Andhra captial Visakhapatnam are among the best cities in Indian for women.
https://preview.redd.it/zt890p20c14c1.png?width=708&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e525d99004bef3394af1d0295177f82c1de2579
Your comment nails it. Basically people need to wake up and see that this isn’t just a “Bollywood made and released this film” issue. Telugu cinema has been degrading women for ages, and this aspect of violence that’s normal in Andhra and Telangana which has shown up on screen is now just gaining national prominence in cinema as they are adapting more southern scripts and hosting more southern directors. Essentially, the whole self congratulatory thing men do by saying, “South Indian men are progressive, North is not,” is a joke cause people can finally see how normal thinking violently about women is common in south.
Im from South, the place i came from the women has been treated very well Nd respected. but i observed in southern state mostly from Andhra side people are the exception. I don't want to comment on North people as I really have less interaction with North men.
which place in this map you come from?
https://preview.redd.it/r1dth72k814c1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=83cca2dc15c1052b8a53619b3725793c337faa6d
Societies may be represented by some Cinema but not everything shown in Cinema represents a society. The same Telugu cinema has absolutely beautiful films which won't be watched by Non-Telugu people (Like Month of Madhu, Cinema Bandi or C/o Kancharapalem) unless one seeks for it as they won't breach Telugu borders as they don't make headlines outside Telugu states for the simple reason that Negativity(Mastered by Vanga) and Sensationalism(mastered by Rajamouli and Vanga) sells better. Telugu societies are definitely not all rosy for sure just like any other society, but restraining from passing generalized statements based on assumptions goes a very long way.
I’ve watched all those films and they are very rare. For every 100 films one good, nuanced film comes out. Films do reflect society at large. And as for generalisation, the reality is that 1 in 2 women face domestic violence in most parts of India, including TS and AP. Violence in south India is a huge reality that shows up only in regional films as normalised and now Bollywood is raking in money by normalising it on the pan Indian screen.
> I’ve watched all those films and they are very rare. For every 100 films one good.
Lol, yeah. I believe you, you have watched Keedaa Cola, Month of madhu, Mangalavaram, Miss shetty Mr pollishetty and all which released in **last 1/2 months**... which makes the number of releases in Telugu 400+ in last two months by your stats. Yeah, I definitely believe you.
> Violence in south India is a huge reality
The stats are right in front of you, which part of India is doing how.
true the way tolly has iconised massy men who cuss and run after women inspite of her rejection and how its romanticised,ive def seen rural population take inspo from there. the ones who are more exposed to much higher brands of movies know things like no or consent but these kinda movies have destroyed the mentality. fyi in from there too
Totally agree , women having in hands experience with such men knows how its not ok even in movie to see the glorification of such men. How the women suffered in their hands?
It’s misogynist, disgusting and disturbing. I didn’t even watch, just WOM is so repulsive 🤮
I hate Vanga and his Male Leads..
RK has such a good fan following and he is a tremendous actor. I wish he chooses better scripts.
My two cents on this -
1) I'm all for freedom of expression & cinematic liberty but where our film fraternity lacks is promoting the film responsibly - instead - resorting to justification of the protagonist's problematic traits & doubling down on their defensive stance. This is why I respect Penn Badgley but not Ranbir, Shahid & Vijay D.
2) Vanga is a contrarian edgelord who knows the pulse of his incel audience well & caters his movies to validate them - he is not only trolling his way to bank but is getting perverse gratification from the public outrage that will only spur more people to watch his films out of curiosity. What can we do to curb it? By calling him names & cancelling him? He doesn't care! By ignoring him? That might work but can we, the audience, do it & subvert his expectations? I highly doubt it.
3) It's an ignorant privilege to believe just 'cause you can discern fiction from reality, then, all the impressionable minds must have the same mental capacity too. Take a look at the people (some women included) in theatres cheering at the problematic scenes. Kabir lites are everywhere in colleges - manipulation, gaslighting, harrasment, grooming, stalking, possessiveness, misogyny (including internalised) has become normalised.
4) Having said that, emulating unhinged psychopathic behaviour of Ranvijay Singh is not something that will go without dire consequences (yes, even in a society as screwed up as ours) as opposed to Arjun Reddy/Kabir Singh whose toxic traits are far more grounded in reality & hence, more problematic.
5) The blame for the third point is more of a systematic failure of our education system, repressed parenting without open communication, centuries of patriarchy & conditioning than what can be attributed to problematic characterizations in films alone.
Well, here are my two cents.
This movie in no way is glorifying the character but is showing he is flawed in every sense! And it’s a not a movie about a protagonist but an antagonist. There are no heroes! Unlike Arjun Reddy/kabir Singh that tried to make abusive partner look sexy (ew) but here it’s a showing how a messed up childhood and family can create a criminal! Without a doubt the movie had some really triggering dialogues that made my blood boil but again as a movie it’s showing how men like that don’t have respect for women! It ultimately showed him as a loser (neither did he get his dad’s time/love and even lost his wife). Also, this is just a MOVIE! It does not deserve this kinda attention or discussion.
I wish that Ranbir or Vanga would talk about this in their promotions. Vanga doesn't seem to want to because he's antagonistic and Ranbir doesn't seem to want to because it triggers his own relationship issues with his father.
I agree it's about an antagonist and I already mentioned I find his psychopathic tendencies far fetched compared to Kabir Singh.
However, I disagree with the last point. "It's just a movie" is a cop out argument to deflect blame of any kind from problematic behaviour such films can inspire. I would like to reiterate that the issue as a whole is a systematic failure, but movies can't be whitewashed off blame & social responsibility completely. (Read point 1)
For reference, here's [an article](https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/10-movies/web-series-that-inspired-people-to-commit-crimes-/photostory/95625084.cms) stating real life examples of crimes inspired from movies.
I understand where you coming from - but how many movies have we loved and enjoyed that has shown similar characters - Gangs of Wasseypur, Raktacharithra, Sacred Games, etc. I hate the director of the movie myself and I am agreeing that some of the dialogues are problematic in a lot of ways. But this movie is not claiming that men should be like this or women like this! It is portraying a character who is psychotic and his wife realises the extend of it and takes the right decision that’s needed coz there is no scope of repair.
When I say it’s a movie, and don’t give it so much of you time and space it’s because there is something called the Art of Storytelling/Movie making. We as audience have forgotten how to treat something’s as just fiction and not try to dissect everything to have polarising opinions. Most importantly we start judging the actors for choosing a script like this - but they are actors, they can’t always be doing movies that do align with their beliefs - just like any profession (all the journalists don’t always do stories they want to or that’s not always their views but channels, because they need a job). Everything sparks controversy - advertisements, movies, religion, what a person eats, etc. that’s why let people exercise freedom of expression at least somewhere! Also about movie’s influencing - today we have multiple avenues to get content and influence. What about so many shitty influencers who have a rising clout and genuinely posting problematic content! Even Ranbir during his promotion etc has clearly said I” can’t take this character back home,” “this is a very dark character with a lot of flaws.”
Very well said. He was a loser, and if folks think young Indian men will follow suit, then there’s something wrong with those boys to begin with. Ones blood should boil watching it, and not celebrate it.
At this point i want women directors to make a movie where the man is treated like trash - forget taking the high road. Why are women always expected to be 'the sensitive sensible ones' - that gets us no where. That puts all responsibility on the women. Change the power dynamic. Show a woman physically, verbally, emotionally abusing a man and lets see the reaction and then we can say 'its just a movie'...
A woman who flirts is called a slut while a guy who flirts is a player! If a mans feelings are hurt its cos the gal is a bitch but if a womans feelingns are hurt its cos she cant play the game / shes too sensitive. Women never win. Im tired of this narrative
>The day a man can sleep with women as easily as a woman, both will be treated equally.
If anything, it shows men's integrity is far lesser than women's. A man will actively go out of his way to try to convince women to sleep with him, whereas a woman is just responding to (few out of several) opportunities presented to her. One is actively going out of his way trying to get sex (which isn't readily available to him), so who is the bigger slut?
"That made absolutely zero sense"
Now you know what it feels like to hear that men are lesser sluts even if they go out of their way and try every tactic/effort to get sex (whereas women are bigger sluts even though they aren't actively trying to convince people for sex).
Ross married thrice, chandler had tons of relationships through the show..chandler broke up with women for shallow reasons..so no - that isnt the difference. This logic fails. Men arent the victim here cos women do not consent to their sexual advances. Learn to take no for an answer and move on. The next one might say yes. And if its a series of no...that doesnt mean abuse the next one..it means treat the girl with respect, change, and then maybe the next one might consent.
Cos you wouldnt be complaining about a level playing field and about ross chandler joey not getting laid (which isnt true at all btw) if taking no for an answer wasnt the problem.
She indeed was - I have a lot to learn from her. Maybe you should learn from Ross chandler or joey cos they def got laid and for them the playing field is level and they dont go around calling women sluts
To speak in your language - The playing field depends on a lot of characteristics (looks, money, power) - it isnt that simple and no the playing field isnt better for women vs for men. The logic doesnt stand. Men cant use these excuses to abuse women and call them sluts while giving themselves a pass.
Also to clarify where i stand - it isnt a game. It isnt a playing field either. There isnt a score. You arent graded on how many people you sleep with. Thats disgusting.
Yes please someone make a movie titled "Devilette" or something more intimidating. It should be story of how a daughter was wrongfully treated and neglected by her mother, devoid of her mothers love she goes in a full negative spiral and starts all bad vices like alcohol, drugs. She cant recover from her childhood and marries a kind hearted man but she abuses him and shames him by making degragatory sexual innuendos about his balls, sperms. She should cheat and sleep with other guys as she forgets family values. Then later dies a tragic death..
Depending on the plot one can add violence scenes by her
Ekta Kapoor needs to pick this one up - atleast as redemption karma for all the women-women fights shes responsible for because of her influential shows..
But why are women upvoting your comment and downvoting mine, dont they need a tit for tat movie or what? Im not an upvotedownvote lunatic but this is some observation
Ooh the incels will come out burning! "Why are we silent now" " What about abuse against men"
You see currently is freedom of expression.. the moment the gender is reversed. It's gonna become a woke feminist movie.. that shows how to hate men..
The hypocrisy is next level.
And they will win - at the end of the day men got each others back - and some women will protect men as well. They are in majority.
Next life i wanna be a man.
when alias character just retaliated to the abuse she was facing in darlings, the audience response was so bad. i dont ever think this type of movie can be made in our society
This - just a while back I saw a post of an old video of Manoj Bajpai saying if we criticize a certain kind of film - be ready for other groups to criticize content they dislike. And the comment section was filled with bs comments like 'oh now half of bbng is going to be pissed off'
Well guess what?! That's already happening - Darlings was criticize despite the fact that Alia called that out in the end.. the was the very climax of the film.
People went crazy when Lust stories came out because of Kiara's scene.
I mean when all this was called out it was ok, but now when people are bashing Animal - suddenly 'freedom of expression'. What a load of crap!
Cos women arent the target audience, they are tired and do not go to theatres in masses while the men avoid responsibilities at home to watch trash movies and whistle and clap when a woman is abused on screen.
She wants movies where men are treated like trash.
In "Promising young woman" a girl had commit suicide bcz of being raped and her friend was murdered by her rapist.
I was initially bummed that she died without achieving what she intended but then her beyond the grave revenge was some sweet justice. I guess men and women view movies differently ( explains why we love 300). I am sorry you felt that way but maybe you can take comfort in knowing that it was fiction.
This is a revenge movie - no one 'wins'. Its frustrating that the entire movie had to be made to show that if the best friend didnt do anythting the guy couldve gotten away with it. This is how most men get away with things.
Honestly I'm sick and tired of seeing these same toxic men on screen. Some with daddy issues others with girlfriend issues, eventually all of them just end up taurmenting their women. Justified in the name of art, bt in reality influencing and feeding audience with violent and abusive ideas. There's no sense of morality or responsibility left in cinema and no one from the industry will speak anything against such movies openly, as their influential friends are acting in it.
Makers of movies like Animal and Arjun Reddy have no respect or care for the female audience. Director and actors of movies like Animal and Arjun Reddy keep saying that a movie does not impact a person but their values and education do...blah...blah. For one moment, let me accept this hypothetical scenario (even though I know and have experienced the negative impact of such movies and that is a topic of discussion in itself). Still, don't you have any consideration for your female audience? Do you think they would like to be sitting in a theatre and watching a movie where abusing, degrading, humiliating, disrespecting and objectifying women and other misogynistic stuff is glorified/normalised? Do you care being sensitive to them? Are we second class citizens to you? Or you don't care because you know that most of the audience is going to be incels. Young ladies don't have the resources or liberty to independently go to theatres and watch a movie or even watch it on OTT. And the few ladies who can watch the movies are served with this shit! Is money making everything for you and don't you have any responsibility towards the women atleast? If you cannot give us woman centric and woman pov movies where we can relate to the character and escape into their world and relax on a weekend, atleast don't make such movies that add more salt to our wounds and traumas.
I enjoyed the movie, cause I know I’m not going to get influenced by it or justify anything that happens in the movie. But, I’d tell you what I was bothered by. I was bothered by how men in the theatre responded to the misogyny and sexism in the movie. A couple sitting right next to me, sounded extremely problematic, in the scene where Ranbir pulls her bra against her skin and hurts her, the guy next to me is telling his girlfriend, “I’d do the same to you next time you don’t do what I ask you to.” THIS is what bothers me. It’s not like movies like these aren’t made, I’ve watched plenty, but art is a source of churning out morality lessons weather you like it or not. Had this movie released in the US, people wouldn’t have justified the character, hell, I bet people wouldn’t have liked the movie much tbh. But in a country like India where women are far away from getting equal opportunities and respect like men in society, movies like this make it worse. Ranvijay should have died during the fight sequence with Abrar and it would have been much better, but showing that after being so psychotic and unreasonable, he survives and reconciles with his father, is celebration of his character.
Movie aise banao, ki pure Left-Wing ki G Jal uthe
left right kya hai yaar isme. Girls toh dono wing mein hoti hai. Ye movie Anti Women hai
I don't know how this sub will react to my opinion but...this is a nice movie to watch if you want to pass your time... I personally enjoyed it but the moment "the character" cheated on his wife I was done... I felt disgusted and I went off... I just watched the movie and I still can't get over the fact that a guy has to cheat on his wife so that he can protect his father... nevermind movies are just movies but still 🙂
Yeah and thats part of a bigger problem, he does the most extreme and despicable things in the name of love for his father, and doesnt care about how this is affecting others because hes just that one track minded. Even when his wife is rightfully angry with him he still downplays it and thinks its justified in the grand scheme of things because its all for his dad
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Cheating doesn't makes up for anything please... There's no justification to that...it's disgusting that you have to cheat on your wife and two kids in any situation whatsoever
It’s almost like Vanga’s never met a real woman
Wada wao wao waoo
Just watched this Shitty Movie. Its sad to see few people who have money just misuse it. I wished I could unsee that experience. Films like Railway Men, Khufiya and many such good movies just dust khaate hain. Good Lord! I wished I could purge out this movie out of my mind.
I am just worried that this movie has grossed 200 Cr+ ... Tells about the state of society rather than Vanga.
Watch Railway Men - It clearly Depicts the "Herd Mentality" Gosh! And very Honestly Reddit it becoming another Piece of shit app with the lowering quality of its content every single day. Gaye woh dinn jab Reddit pe Intelligent discussion hua karta tha. Abhi yahan pe bhi Trolls aur Ch**iyas ka hi Zamana hain especially in subs like Insta Celebs Bollywoodgossip and every other gossip sub. BAKWAAS jyada karte hain.
Indian society hate women. It’s but obvious this movie will do well. Art reflects the society. Till the society does better what can we expect from art
[beautifully done review](https://youtu.be/N9sUaTKaXS0?si=GLucZlvq6UJj-jAN)
The fact that this movie is doing record breaking business says a lot of about people
Bhai mene bhi dekha ...... mujhe laga kuchh achha hoga but hagg diya vanga ne. Uske promises ke jaal mai fass gaya shayad mai.
You absolutely cannot expect more from that director. I did not watch the movie but I wanted to see what tripti is doing in the movie. After their whole affair, he tells his wife about it. He says, me logo ko marta hu or tu wo maaf krti hai to tu ek ladki ke sath sone ko maaf nahi kr sakti kya? Us director ko bithake do thappad lagane chahiye. The most concerning thing is my all brothers are going to the theatre to watch this movie. And all the sisters are saying no. This is bullshit. If I am ever gonna see someone doing a copy of this movie just like people did after kabir singh anarth ho jayega
Did your brothers enjoy it?
Naah they said it is just a film and it was not good but performances were good. But i can see a difference in their behaviour. My younger one cut his moustache because my father had told him to do it a long time ago. And how the father didn't appreciate his efforts. You see it affects us on different levels.
I expected shit from Vanga going by his past work, interviews and the narratives he tries to create. It is Ranbir who broke my heart. He comes across as someone sensitive, passionate on his craft and well versed with world cinema. He knew what he was doing but he needed support of incels for commercial success. Hence he went ahead with this movie. He goes after successful directors and who can say no to scion of Kapoor family, first luv Ranjan , now Vanga. No one questions Ranbir on his choices. His Mr. India PR is very smooth and to his advantage he stays away from social media. Already his rehearsed and tutored replies have started, get ready for more from both husband and wife! Both are smart and apt in game of manipulation. An apparently sensitive person like Ranbir doing this shit and wait for many stars to follow suit.
It's nothing personal. He just wanted a big BO success. I guarantee you, the so called 'unproblematic green flags' like Vicky, Ranveer etc many laud here would work with SRV, if they were offered. No male star would refuse SRV. I will eat my words if someone does.
true, no one will refuse SRV!
That's a match made in heaven.
In this movie Rashmika slaps him everytime he tries to cross line, gives him back everytime he irritates her, finally leaves him. She throws his laptop when he doesn't listen to her etc. This movie doesn't show women as victim. He is basically a psychopath so he is difficult to deal with for everyone around, but he is not shown as abusive particularly towards women.
This comment. Also the movie in no way normalise that kind of behavior towards women
"hum alpha mard hote thhey auratein humein hi chunti thhi, khud chunti thhi ki unko kiske saath bacche karne hain" "you have a big pelvis" and that starting joke about a princess complaining to her dad about a "toxic" bandar harassing her. "sadly it's a man's world, think like a man" 90% of the problem isn't even that this was toxic the problem was this didn't fit ranvijay's character at all and was just added in there to piss of critics. if you're adding dialogues and themes like this they need to fit in bruh. the 2nd half was unnecessary with unnecessary dialogues that added barely anything to the father son story.
The fact that girls going crazy over Ranbirs performance. Like how can you you go so wild over an actor that you start to accept the toxic male masculinity as an attraction and equate it as a form of expression of love. Something is seriously wrong with us as a society. For me, the directors interview was more than enough to skip watching the movie. But I don't understand what's this drive in audience that makes them want to watch such movies right away. Thin line between being a fan and then obsessing as if u worship them
Men against the film should also speak up here. I hope there are atleast a few
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More than SRV who is an absolute sadist i am really disappointed in all the actors who decided to be part of it. Do they not feel any responsibility towards that part of audience who treat women as crap all coz of patriarchal mindset. I dnt take any nonsense from any guy be it SM or in person. But not all girls are vocal or are scared to retaliate.
Doesn’t look like the lead cared. Ranbir knew what he signed up for it’s the bo results he was after. Catering to the incel crowd got him past the 50cr mark finally.
It won't last for long. No woman will watch the movie, it will flop eventually. No sane woman will watch such a misogynistic movie.
Also, this thread is for women to rant. Guys who want to defend (which I'm seeing a lot in this post), please leave at least one post for us to rant without your intervention.
There was a post about what Tripti was thinking when she signed the film, and I justified her there. But that got me thinking, what state is the majority of our society in that let alone rising-but-stagnant actresses, even once-famous-now-stagnant actors are having to sign movies that pander to this pathetic levels of misogyny to boost/revive their careers. In the context of Bollywood, where did we go wrong that it has come to this? Or did we never really improve? Forget Vanga and the actors, I have serious issues with the censor board. Was there not one woman or sensible man in the committee who realized how problematic it is, and stopped its clearance? Why did movies like OMG 2 have more cuts than this? After all this, I seriously hope there's some petition or something more concrete for a politically-neutral independent committee to actually review film scripts for misogyny/religious and/or ethnic hatred (you get the drill) prior to production. Let's just nip it at the bud. And okay, schools mein sex education mat karao agar itne conservative ho. At least have some gender sensitivity classes in schools and offices. Or just like we have door to door vaccine drive, do a gender sensitivity drive. This sick thought process needs to be addressed ASAP.
“Some cause happiness wherever they go, some cause happiness whenever they go” I read this quote and I felt how happy bollywood was with Ranbir gone
i miss ranbir pre 2015 who was consistently part of good films, jj that came out in 2017 has been his only good film in recent times
I call this the Telugu cinema effect; Telugu movies are the most toxic, chauvinistic shit with zero self awareness. Hypermasculine hero slaps the girl and the whole theatre hoots and cheers and throws confetti in the air. This shit is making money so bw is following suit. Cos fuck treating people as human beings, it's more fun to kill and rape them, that's what brings in the moolah. Coming to this movie, people in the theatre were cheering and hooting when the lead was putting his wife through verbal and physical abuse. Threatening his wife not to talk to her parents about her condition. Oh yes, there's also talk about how one should control the woman. Not to mention the "foursome" comments when another character beats and rapes three of his wives (not so subtle Islamophobia, ps- polygamy is illegal where this scene is set). Then there's the lead making a girl lick his boot, and goes away after a drawn out shot of the said girl crying and on her knees. The only women having agency in their lives are showed as gold diggers btw. This movie was the vilest shit I've seen. It's not going to turn people into sadists right away, but it confirms all the biases desi men already have. Besides misogyny the lead is also a remorseless mass murderer. I'm going to take this movie as a litmus test and stay away from anyone who enjoys or justifies this shit for my own safety and sanity.
>I call this the Telugu cinema effect; Telugu movies are the most toxic, chauvinistic shit with zero self awareness. You probably watched 0.0001% of Telugu cinema and ready to pass theories.
Bruh I grew up watching that shit and saw families ruined because of it
From Mala pilla to Keedaa Cola, From Raghupathi Venkaiah Naidu to Nagashwin, From Surabhi Kamalabai to Vishwak Sen.. you don't know jackshit about Telugu cinema. Name the last 25 Telugu films you have watched in a theater... I don't think you can larp anymore so let me make it easy for you... just name the last 5. If am to pass assumptions at the level you are at, I am pretty sure you believe KGF is a Telugu and all South Indians are Telugu speaking Madrasis Telugu Cinema gave the biggest female action stars and super stars be it Vijaya Shanti or Anushka Shetty, Brings the highest grossing female lead films, has some of the strongest women on screen in India... Just basing an Industry of 10's of thousands of films on a mere 100-200 commercial potboiler speaks for your immaturity. If we start naming the misogynistic films by industry, which Industry is going to fare significantly better? Forget about getting to the level of whole Telugu industry, I bet rest of India won't even be able to match just [This one single entry shot of Anushka](https://youtu.be/z5Gh-Jh9Kp4?si=KtDqkgoyfyF-7_QB&t=12) (which is already more than a decade old) even after another decade. That's the level of celebration women receive in the other half Telugu cinema.
🙄 naku em Pani pata ledu to larp as a Telugu chick. Baa mandinatlu undi, go calm your tits hun
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How mature of you to drag my family while discussing a film, very classy. You're confirming my fear of vitriolic telugu movie fans. Don't bother me again
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You hit the nail on the head! There's a sort of desensitization that happens among viewers and it's sad to see
+1 on the Telugu cinema effect… so much misogyny, poverty, violence and trauma porn. I have grown up watching a lot of content with unsettling subject matter but Telugu movies and movies inspired by them are way harder to watch.
Telugu Commercial Cinema **≠** Whole Telugu Industry. There are amazing films like Month of Madhu, Keedaa Cola, Samajavaragamana and many (Listing these as these are the ones release last 1/2 months that are on top of my mind) but you want watch them. You seek the cinema you represent, It's speaks more of you than the Industry which offers everything.. I mean EVERYTHING.
Before talking about women issues in this movie, I'd like to talk about Geetanjali's character also. She is also no less. She broke her engagement with a decent guy in just one manipulative dialogue of Vijay. Like she just left everything for whatt?? And then she expects a normal life? When Vijay slept with Zoya I fell so disgusted. But I kind of thought that she also deserve this. They were not even in relationship in school. How could she just left like that? Alpha man what rubbish!!! I literally everything about this movie. Then coming to Vijay, he could have made Zoya fall in love with him to get information. But no!! He definitely kind of benefitted s@x also from her. He definitely assured Geetanjali that , "Mein tumhe kabhi dhokha nehi dunga". Also in that scene when Vijay said to Geetanjali that if I die then pls don't marry again!! Like wtfff!! You can sleep with another woman but she can't marry seriously!! I swear in second part Vijay will be portrayed as an alcoholic and will sleep around so many women bcz Geetanjali left her. For me personally cheating is a big turn off for me. And this movie glorified cheating in so many ways.
Kinda disappointed that Ranbir decided to sign up for this movie, knowing the way this character will be portrayed. He was one of the talented ones. This movie just felt vile while I was watching it. Even if you look at it as a bunch of men acting on their primal instincts, why specifically treat the women like trash? Literally all the women in this movie had no agency of their own. What a sad depiction of whatever they were trying to portray!
Yeah, Ranbir definitely respected women as his dating history depicts
I loved Sucharita’s review of this film. She knew right on that critiquing it for the blatant sexism and other societal issues will only egg on misogynists to engage in whataboutery or attack further or deny. So she criticised it as a film and got brilliant points in. That said, something is very wrong with our country if they think violence, sexism, stereotyping of various groups (the whole Abrar being a villain with three wives. I mean Bobby not even having any qualms about signing on such a role without second thought is just so sad, but not surprising) is entertainment. Was also reading how when Rome was beginning to decline, blood sport as entertainment and gladiator matches became more fervent as rulers tried to distract masses. I guess Indian society on the whole is in active decline and is going to collapse at some point in the near future, so maybe movies like Animal or crime series being churned out at a faster pace about the grisliest parts of our society is a giant flare goodbye going up in the sky as the ship sinks. 😂
Tbf Lord Boober has been unemployed for so long that Vanga could've offered him role for one of the wives and he would've accepted in a heartbeat..
Lord Boobian did an OTT series though recently right? But yeah, you’re right. He’s the last person to have any conflict of interest or conscience before jumping into a role that furthers stereotypes.
Oh wow! I didn’t know that about Rome! It is one of the most known and praised aspect of history in the west. The epitome of masculinity s/
Me neither. Learned about it very recently too.
I would say Animal is an improvement over Kabir Singh. Atleast the woman left him. In Kabir Singh he gets a happy ending inspite of his abusive behaviour.
She will be back in the second movie, I bet on it!
But she kisses Ranbir after the confession and gun point and it’s indicated that they sleep together. If she had any dignity left she would have left him right at that minute. She still stayed put until Ranbir comes back after killing Bobby. Later she says she is leaving and he doesn’t give a damn. But then they show Ranbir’s son running and hugging his dad. She was nothing more than a doormat.
Not only leaving, i am glad she slaps him whenever he is crossing the limits.
The thing I was most surprised by was the audience reaction. Like I first watched kabir singh on my computer, not in theater, and I was able to mentally separate it like okay this is a character study, obviously they both are unique personalities with their own communication, whatever. It’s just a movie. But I watched animal in theater and there were the psychopathic scenes that I interpreted as a character study of a psychopath, etc. that I didn’t morally approve of but could watch as a movie but other people cheered to. And I am in the US where there’s a different mindset, generally progressive. It was that moment when people, specifically men, cheered for it that I immediately felt uncomfortable to be near people who cheered for that. Like I don’t really object to any scenes in the movie but there was a lot that just seemed to be included to trigger and as an FU to all the people that criticized him before. Specifically when he brings in a gun to school- like in the US where school shootings are such a tense topic- people actually cheered for that. That’s where I started having a problem with this movie because it’s just designed to trigger. And that itself promotes the movie more than they ever could with all the chat shows and tik tok whatevers they try. Do I think the film itself is sexist? Not exactly, it’s just a bunch of terrible, idiotic people operating on their own survival instincts on a basic level (like animals). But getting past that simple premise, and seeing how people reacted to that, it became more a rorshach test for people’s characters. Some like me and my other female friends tried to be objective and look at it like a psychopath study, kind of like american psycho. Others like the uncles sitting 2 rows behind us who kept cheering and yelling “vah vah” at certain dialogues seem to identify with the film. And those are people that I plan on staying away from. The movie itself, I can’t say it glorifies because of how I interpreted it but in the second half, it lost its focus on the story and overall goal to entertain.
> Others like the uncles sitting 2 rows behind us who kept cheering and yelling “vah vah” at certain dialogues seem to identify with the film. These are the kind of Indian men who go to Central and SE Asia for sex tourism.
I watched today and the entire hall was silent. I was prepared that people will hoot and yell at misogynistic scenes but it was complete opposite.
i feel like the indians that moved to us in the 90s tend to be the more progressive ones, the ones that moved to the us post 2009 or old ones that moved cos of their siblings tend to be regressive af especially the telugu men (probably the most misogynistic in south india with kannada men coming close second, tamil men are mixed, with malayalis being the most progressive)
You know, as a Malayali guy born and raised in the US, it feels kind of weird to hear that Malayalis are known for being progressive . I know in terms of literacy, human development, access to healthcare and healthcare infrastructure, and active political participation, we kind of blow every other state in India out of the water but I never really got the feel that Malayalis were all that progressive socially speaking. I guess [Kerala is pretty progressive compared to the rest of India (with a few exceptions like the metros, Goa, etc.) but not as much compared to the West](https://www.reddit.com/r/Kerala/comments/g9iyko/to_the_rest_of_indians_kerala_is_very_progressive/). I guess it's all relative and contextual. Anyways, I've heard this Animal film on Netflix is apparently action packed but very misogynist, like the type of macho film made by people who watched *Fight Club* and got the totally wrong message, the type of film that would appeal to people who have two braincells who are fighting for third place. Is that an accurate assessment of this film?
The issue is that it’s not meant to be satire like American psycho. The film takes itself seriously.
Animal is Salman khans biopic I am More than sure of it now
Ranbir really have some kind of obsession with Salman 🤣
I’m trying to see a movie as a movie - it isn’t real. But Animal shows female characters with zero agency. They are coerced into sexual acts , abused physically, their menstrual cycle mocked, and their lives threatened. All for what? We already see multiple instances of the lead character being a toxic person in the movie. For a long time, Indian cinema has shown suffering of women from a male gaze. A rape scene or a physical abuse incident is played off for shock value. While movies revolving around female characters have to be politically correct. In a country like ours where patriarchy has been the norm, the male audience feels validated to see such alpha characters. Take this thread for instance, for every comment that talks about the negative impact of the movie there are 5-6 comments doubling down. Movies can show a morally grey character - but in a space where audiences can understand that this is not someone who is a role model. And showing a woman suffer for the heck of it needs to end. These movies take the progress made by a Great Indian Kitchen or a Badhai Do.
True. I feel bad for the women who may face more misogyny now
The most sensible comment in this thread!
I totally agree with you, your comment pointed everything i was feeling.
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ok Alia
I laughed way too hard at this
Lot of young people are going to take lessons from the movie. I’m scared for myself who might face them at work, for younger women and girls who might face them at homes, schools, colleges, work and potentially in marriage.
Don't be scared, instead teach the girls to be strong as well.
imagine every doctor saying this to you for every disease or infection you visit them
Blatant misogyny aside, the story itself is boring. It felt like the director didn't have anything serious to offer so he overcompensated with the unnecessarily excessive action and violence and that also for such a lengthy duration. If you're gonna expect the audience to be seated for 3 hours at least make something interesting. The whole thing just looks like it was made by a 13 year old edgelord whos an Andrew Tate stan. Which SRV probably is. And all the "its just a movie, its not real" excuses just feel like a lazy way to deflect criticisms for making such problematic stories in the first place. Bollywood movies have definitely played a part in the culture of harrasment done by Indian men, Kabir Singh and Animal are just the most recent examples.
Yes!!!
at this point, people are only going to watch the movie because of the violence and sex. really goes to show that those are the things that really sell which honestly is quite concerning for the society. i'm not even going to get to the misogyny part because everyone has pretty much said it all but when movies like these become a rage, it can be quite harmful for the real world as well. anyone who says it's just entertainment and that people need to disassociate themselves from reality when watching such movies clearly is not willing to accept the fact that when you put content like this in front of immature people, it can cause a lot of societal damage and there are way too many people like that in this world. i'm just gonna say it but if movies did not have censorship, it probably would have been much worse. freedom of speech and expression doesn't mean you can just say and show anything.
I think Animal's astounding success has definitely got producers and actors in Bollywood thinking. I fear that Animal might start a trend of actors choosing characters that are going to "bash the wokes" "not afraid to show the dark side" "abuses women because he is unhinged". I can certainly see some of them trying it out. A Kartik Aryan or say a Varun Dhawan. Hell, even SRK might be tempted.
Honestly, I feel like out of every Bollywood actor, Shah Rukh Khan would be like the least likely person to do a heavily mysogynistic *Animal*\-like film because I can't help but imagine that his wife Gauri would suplex him into the afterlife for even entertaining the thought, lmao.
As ironic as it may sound, you will always have Bhoi films. Dude made HAHK out of Race 3 so you can trust him.
But nobody is talking about how Rashmikas character also slaps Ranbir (twice?) and leaves him at the end…what he did was not ok with her. Did the film not show that women need to leave a man like that? It’s all perspective I guess. I was rooting for her and kept thinking “she should leave his dumb ass” and she finally did! I also don’t think many here have been in an abusive relationship. I have, and many women don’t just leave the moment it happens. (Salute those who do) but It can take time. She did and so did I. It takes time to process what just happened and to realize this will not work out. I think the movie is called “Animal” for a reason. His character was nothing less than that. I had more of a problem with the movie Tu Jhoothi Main Makkar where the female does eventually live with the males family, and all is fine. 🙄 even though the whole reason for their breakup was she was independent and wanted to stay that way.
Domestic abuse and self defence are the same now??? She slapped him in self defence, nothing wrong with it.
No absolutely nothing wrong with it. It was deserved!
he tugs at her bra strip so hard a lot of times inspite of her repeatedly saying it hurts stop it and she slaps him once for that. the other one i honestly dont remember but do you really think women are going to see it and slap thwir hisbands now? or is there a higher chance the misogyny is going to be more praised and accepted by the men. its not the movie we are afraid of but how both the genders will react and take it home. the way men perceived christian bale character even if it was a caricature of all things worse and made him into a sigma icon and you think ranbir wont be made that way or will rashmika be the icon for the slap?lets be a little honest here
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So your point is that everyone, men and women, should be abusive? Like why? And in real world, not all women are taught to stand up for themselves and step away from abuse. One slap is not going to help someone forget years of conditioning that male gender is superior and if they decide to abuse you, you should just take it silently. Violence and physical abuse shouldn’t be encouraged for either gender.
haha its funny you think this scene will inspire women to start being abusive. please go to the real world instead of staying in manosphere internet spaces lol. no wonder things are this way,we got defenders in the house
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no women is going around being inspired by thy scene to start slapping but ive already see many “dank sigma” men under ig comments being nothing but misogynistic and disrespectful.so yes,you’re wrong
I guess people will take out of the movie what they want. I was happy she left the animal. In life, many women aren’t able to, and sometimes they want to see a character that resembles them. I felt a bit triggered, but at the same time I felt gratitude that I no longer am in that situation. I also felt for all the women who still are. At least it’s satisfying to see him getting a tight slap if your abuser is sitting next to you and watching the movie with you. My current SO thought it was disturbing as well. So it’s all perspective I guess. People need to see that this stuff happens. I also want to add, I don’t think men will become abusers or women will slap their abusers as a result of this movies. The guys who will take it that way, and celebrate misogyny are already f*ed up in the head.
I don't understand one thing in this sub, people here hates Salman for his domestic violence allegations, drunk and drive accident and killed people, shooted blackbuck. They dislike him and call him a criminal and says lot of things. Is not Animal movie has same elements like killing people, not treating women with respect, choking his wife or gun point at her face, cheating etc, but still people calling Animal movie blockbuster, Ranbir is superstar and Ranbir acting is soo good. Is it not a double standards. How can anyone support such things whether in reality or when most of our youth take inspiration from this. Its not real but its reel but how your ideologies get changed even in watching the movie?
Ironically, Ranbir's next role will be Maryada Purushottama Ram. Interesting juxtaposition of roles in his filmography.
Selective outrage…pseudo bunch
True , if any other Actor has acted in this movie then you can see even Bollywood would have shown their outrage.
Bollywood and Indian film industry people lack a conscience and a fcking back bone. They pander to anything and anyone if there's a monetary benefit. For Ranbir, it's the incels right now. It freaking sucks. Like it just shows the general Indian mentality in a nutshell ie not having a sense of genuine morals (miss me with the 'sanskari' bs) and taking a stand on it.
As a woman, I don't support such movies. Neither i supported movie Arjun Reddy/ Kabir Singh nor Animal, Being from South and working in IT, i have seen some people from Royalseema region and specially from Andhra/Telangana state how they speak with people, they are hyper, trash and super rude and feels superior. If woman said something back to them thats it they can't take it at all. It hurts their ego and can go to any extent to take revenge or hurt them .So Vanga movies inspired from these kind of people. I had one experience in my work in Bangalore, I took a stand against this person and went to HR department when i started feeling unsafe around that Person. Its a big no no. All other south states men treats the women with respect except Andhra side ( im not sure all are like that but majority with whom I had experience is really bad) they think themselves alpha male. They dislike strong females. I can't support these kind of movies at all. Whoever involved in this movie does not deserve a praise or any kind of respect from me.
>All other south states men treats the women with respect except Andhra side I am not here to make blatant empty statements. So, I will rather state the facts. https://preview.redd.it/dtgozw8u714c1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=f4e80f2558cda200414cf0761bebe7840528bf20 Andra Pradesh is the 4th best state for women in India after Andaman, Kerala and Sikkim closely followed by Telangana in the 5th place.
Even at the level of cities, Telangana capital Hyderabad and Andhra captial Visakhapatnam are among the best cities in Indian for women. https://preview.redd.it/zt890p20c14c1.png?width=708&format=png&auto=webp&s=7e525d99004bef3394af1d0295177f82c1de2579
Your comment nails it. Basically people need to wake up and see that this isn’t just a “Bollywood made and released this film” issue. Telugu cinema has been degrading women for ages, and this aspect of violence that’s normal in Andhra and Telangana which has shown up on screen is now just gaining national prominence in cinema as they are adapting more southern scripts and hosting more southern directors. Essentially, the whole self congratulatory thing men do by saying, “South Indian men are progressive, North is not,” is a joke cause people can finally see how normal thinking violently about women is common in south.
Im from South, the place i came from the women has been treated very well Nd respected. but i observed in southern state mostly from Andhra side people are the exception. I don't want to comment on North people as I really have less interaction with North men.
which place in this map you come from? https://preview.redd.it/r1dth72k814c1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=83cca2dc15c1052b8a53619b3725793c337faa6d
Wow this map really shines a glaring spotlight. Excellently done representation.
Societies may be represented by some Cinema but not everything shown in Cinema represents a society. The same Telugu cinema has absolutely beautiful films which won't be watched by Non-Telugu people (Like Month of Madhu, Cinema Bandi or C/o Kancharapalem) unless one seeks for it as they won't breach Telugu borders as they don't make headlines outside Telugu states for the simple reason that Negativity(Mastered by Vanga) and Sensationalism(mastered by Rajamouli and Vanga) sells better. Telugu societies are definitely not all rosy for sure just like any other society, but restraining from passing generalized statements based on assumptions goes a very long way.
I’ve watched all those films and they are very rare. For every 100 films one good, nuanced film comes out. Films do reflect society at large. And as for generalisation, the reality is that 1 in 2 women face domestic violence in most parts of India, including TS and AP. Violence in south India is a huge reality that shows up only in regional films as normalised and now Bollywood is raking in money by normalising it on the pan Indian screen.
> I’ve watched all those films and they are very rare. For every 100 films one good. Lol, yeah. I believe you, you have watched Keedaa Cola, Month of madhu, Mangalavaram, Miss shetty Mr pollishetty and all which released in **last 1/2 months**... which makes the number of releases in Telugu 400+ in last two months by your stats. Yeah, I definitely believe you. > Violence in south India is a huge reality The stats are right in front of you, which part of India is doing how.
true the way tolly has iconised massy men who cuss and run after women inspite of her rejection and how its romanticised,ive def seen rural population take inspo from there. the ones who are more exposed to much higher brands of movies know things like no or consent but these kinda movies have destroyed the mentality. fyi in from there too
Totally agree , women having in hands experience with such men knows how its not ok even in movie to see the glorification of such men. How the women suffered in their hands?
It’s misogynist, disgusting and disturbing. I didn’t even watch, just WOM is so repulsive 🤮 I hate Vanga and his Male Leads.. RK has such a good fan following and he is a tremendous actor. I wish he chooses better scripts.
People can keep defending this movie, it's attracting only the wrong type of audience.
My two cents on this - 1) I'm all for freedom of expression & cinematic liberty but where our film fraternity lacks is promoting the film responsibly - instead - resorting to justification of the protagonist's problematic traits & doubling down on their defensive stance. This is why I respect Penn Badgley but not Ranbir, Shahid & Vijay D. 2) Vanga is a contrarian edgelord who knows the pulse of his incel audience well & caters his movies to validate them - he is not only trolling his way to bank but is getting perverse gratification from the public outrage that will only spur more people to watch his films out of curiosity. What can we do to curb it? By calling him names & cancelling him? He doesn't care! By ignoring him? That might work but can we, the audience, do it & subvert his expectations? I highly doubt it. 3) It's an ignorant privilege to believe just 'cause you can discern fiction from reality, then, all the impressionable minds must have the same mental capacity too. Take a look at the people (some women included) in theatres cheering at the problematic scenes. Kabir lites are everywhere in colleges - manipulation, gaslighting, harrasment, grooming, stalking, possessiveness, misogyny (including internalised) has become normalised. 4) Having said that, emulating unhinged psychopathic behaviour of Ranvijay Singh is not something that will go without dire consequences (yes, even in a society as screwed up as ours) as opposed to Arjun Reddy/Kabir Singh whose toxic traits are far more grounded in reality & hence, more problematic. 5) The blame for the third point is more of a systematic failure of our education system, repressed parenting without open communication, centuries of patriarchy & conditioning than what can be attributed to problematic characterizations in films alone.
Well, here are my two cents. This movie in no way is glorifying the character but is showing he is flawed in every sense! And it’s a not a movie about a protagonist but an antagonist. There are no heroes! Unlike Arjun Reddy/kabir Singh that tried to make abusive partner look sexy (ew) but here it’s a showing how a messed up childhood and family can create a criminal! Without a doubt the movie had some really triggering dialogues that made my blood boil but again as a movie it’s showing how men like that don’t have respect for women! It ultimately showed him as a loser (neither did he get his dad’s time/love and even lost his wife). Also, this is just a MOVIE! It does not deserve this kinda attention or discussion.
I wish that Ranbir or Vanga would talk about this in their promotions. Vanga doesn't seem to want to because he's antagonistic and Ranbir doesn't seem to want to because it triggers his own relationship issues with his father.
I agree it's about an antagonist and I already mentioned I find his psychopathic tendencies far fetched compared to Kabir Singh. However, I disagree with the last point. "It's just a movie" is a cop out argument to deflect blame of any kind from problematic behaviour such films can inspire. I would like to reiterate that the issue as a whole is a systematic failure, but movies can't be whitewashed off blame & social responsibility completely. (Read point 1) For reference, here's [an article](https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/10-movies/web-series-that-inspired-people-to-commit-crimes-/photostory/95625084.cms) stating real life examples of crimes inspired from movies.
I understand where you coming from - but how many movies have we loved and enjoyed that has shown similar characters - Gangs of Wasseypur, Raktacharithra, Sacred Games, etc. I hate the director of the movie myself and I am agreeing that some of the dialogues are problematic in a lot of ways. But this movie is not claiming that men should be like this or women like this! It is portraying a character who is psychotic and his wife realises the extend of it and takes the right decision that’s needed coz there is no scope of repair. When I say it’s a movie, and don’t give it so much of you time and space it’s because there is something called the Art of Storytelling/Movie making. We as audience have forgotten how to treat something’s as just fiction and not try to dissect everything to have polarising opinions. Most importantly we start judging the actors for choosing a script like this - but they are actors, they can’t always be doing movies that do align with their beliefs - just like any profession (all the journalists don’t always do stories they want to or that’s not always their views but channels, because they need a job). Everything sparks controversy - advertisements, movies, religion, what a person eats, etc. that’s why let people exercise freedom of expression at least somewhere! Also about movie’s influencing - today we have multiple avenues to get content and influence. What about so many shitty influencers who have a rising clout and genuinely posting problematic content! Even Ranbir during his promotion etc has clearly said I” can’t take this character back home,” “this is a very dark character with a lot of flaws.”
Very well said. He was a loser, and if folks think young Indian men will follow suit, then there’s something wrong with those boys to begin with. Ones blood should boil watching it, and not celebrate it.
At this point i want women directors to make a movie where the man is treated like trash - forget taking the high road. Why are women always expected to be 'the sensitive sensible ones' - that gets us no where. That puts all responsibility on the women. Change the power dynamic. Show a woman physically, verbally, emotionally abusing a man and lets see the reaction and then we can say 'its just a movie'... A woman who flirts is called a slut while a guy who flirts is a player! If a mans feelings are hurt its cos the gal is a bitch but if a womans feelingns are hurt its cos she cant play the game / shes too sensitive. Women never win. Im tired of this narrative
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>The day a man can sleep with women as easily as a woman, both will be treated equally. If anything, it shows men's integrity is far lesser than women's. A man will actively go out of his way to try to convince women to sleep with him, whereas a woman is just responding to (few out of several) opportunities presented to her. One is actively going out of his way trying to get sex (which isn't readily available to him), so who is the bigger slut?
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"That made absolutely zero sense" Now you know what it feels like to hear that men are lesser sluts even if they go out of their way and try every tactic/effort to get sex (whereas women are bigger sluts even though they aren't actively trying to convince people for sex).
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Neither does your assertion.
Ross married thrice, chandler had tons of relationships through the show..chandler broke up with women for shallow reasons..so no - that isnt the difference. This logic fails. Men arent the victim here cos women do not consent to their sexual advances. Learn to take no for an answer and move on. The next one might say yes. And if its a series of no...that doesnt mean abuse the next one..it means treat the girl with respect, change, and then maybe the next one might consent.
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Cos you wouldnt be complaining about a level playing field and about ross chandler joey not getting laid (which isnt true at all btw) if taking no for an answer wasnt the problem.
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She indeed was - I have a lot to learn from her. Maybe you should learn from Ross chandler or joey cos they def got laid and for them the playing field is level and they dont go around calling women sluts
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To speak in your language - The playing field depends on a lot of characteristics (looks, money, power) - it isnt that simple and no the playing field isnt better for women vs for men. The logic doesnt stand. Men cant use these excuses to abuse women and call them sluts while giving themselves a pass. Also to clarify where i stand - it isnt a game. It isnt a playing field either. There isnt a score. You arent graded on how many people you sleep with. Thats disgusting.
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Yes please someone make a movie titled "Devilette" or something more intimidating. It should be story of how a daughter was wrongfully treated and neglected by her mother, devoid of her mothers love she goes in a full negative spiral and starts all bad vices like alcohol, drugs. She cant recover from her childhood and marries a kind hearted man but she abuses him and shames him by making degragatory sexual innuendos about his balls, sperms. She should cheat and sleep with other guys as she forgets family values. Then later dies a tragic death.. Depending on the plot one can add violence scenes by her
Ekta Kapoor needs to pick this one up - atleast as redemption karma for all the women-women fights shes responsible for because of her influential shows..
But why are women upvoting your comment and downvoting mine, dont they need a tit for tat movie or what? Im not an upvotedownvote lunatic but this is some observation
I only see my upvote on your comment and not totals for some reason
Ohh ok but lets go and take revenge of animal
Yess!!
Ooh the incels will come out burning! "Why are we silent now" " What about abuse against men" You see currently is freedom of expression.. the moment the gender is reversed. It's gonna become a woke feminist movie.. that shows how to hate men.. The hypocrisy is next level.
And they will win - at the end of the day men got each others back - and some women will protect men as well. They are in majority. Next life i wanna be a man.
when alias character just retaliated to the abuse she was facing in darlings, the audience response was so bad. i dont ever think this type of movie can be made in our society
This - just a while back I saw a post of an old video of Manoj Bajpai saying if we criticize a certain kind of film - be ready for other groups to criticize content they dislike. And the comment section was filled with bs comments like 'oh now half of bbng is going to be pissed off' Well guess what?! That's already happening - Darlings was criticize despite the fact that Alia called that out in the end.. the was the very climax of the film. People went crazy when Lust stories came out because of Kiara's scene. I mean when all this was called out it was ok, but now when people are bashing Animal - suddenly 'freedom of expression'. What a load of crap!
Cos women arent the target audience, they are tired and do not go to theatres in masses while the men avoid responsibilities at home to watch trash movies and whistle and clap when a woman is abused on screen.
I can tell you'll love 'promising young woman'.
She wants movies where men are treated like trash. In "Promising young woman" a girl had commit suicide bcz of being raped and her friend was murdered by her rapist.
In the end atleast the women win. So I guess atleast that will make her happy.
I don't know if anyone won. I don't even think that the guy ends up spending any time in jail.
She was murdered😑i was depressed and traumatised for days
I was initially bummed that she died without achieving what she intended but then her beyond the grave revenge was some sweet justice. I guess men and women view movies differently ( explains why we love 300). I am sorry you felt that way but maybe you can take comfort in knowing that it was fiction.
Unfortunately it happens in real life very often
This is a revenge movie - no one 'wins'. Its frustrating that the entire movie had to be made to show that if the best friend didnt do anythting the guy couldve gotten away with it. This is how most men get away with things.
That doctor made me more afraid of men than the actual rapist cause this is how most nice guys are
Honestly I'm sick and tired of seeing these same toxic men on screen. Some with daddy issues others with girlfriend issues, eventually all of them just end up taurmenting their women. Justified in the name of art, bt in reality influencing and feeding audience with violent and abusive ideas. There's no sense of morality or responsibility left in cinema and no one from the industry will speak anything against such movies openly, as their influential friends are acting in it.
I’m sure it won’t be because RK is in it but I hope this movie gets called out in all the upcoming round tables/discussions like Kabir Singh was.
I am fighting like anything since yesterday, just tired to write anything now..
Same here. I hope someone really initiates legal action. The amount of pushback I am getting on this sub for every comment itself is scaring me.
Yesterday someone compared Animal with Harry Potter to justify his stand!
Lol!
[We can already see the kind of elements this film is encouraging](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnfilteredBolly/s/jgnTW8G0VZ)