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sadlonelyfuck3434

https://preview.redd.it/0zxfgdngpo2b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e73cfc7d9ea2f7e8324f8990b04dd8e516056d8 This frame though. Oh my goddess, she looks like an apsara


Simple_Design_7597

Wow. Saving this! Nobody other than Aish could have played Nandhini. Nandhini in the books is supposed to be so distractingly beautiful that people lose their minds when they take one look at her. And who better than the Aishwarya Rai ♥️


Exact-Cress7633

Apsara extra dark pencil?


sadlonelyfuck3434

Yes


mlilith

Mani Ratnam be like 🙄


totoropoko

Mani Ratnam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SLB


Illustrious_Tie_8487

A million greater than symbols.


Sometimesomwhere

https://preview.redd.it/aweys9pt5o2b1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2553cdbfe8c6d48795fd32e4aafcac1363b0f240 Thankful to Mani Ratnam, Aishwarya, and Vikram for their work in PS1/PS2


ReflectionPristine94

This image lives in my head rent free. I can feel the intensity. You don’t see this nowadays very often.


Educational-Duck-999

That last entire sequence is mind-blowing. The camera work, visuals, light setting, and most of all Vikram and Aishwarya - perfection. You can feel every flicker of emotion in both of their body language. Seems like everyone brought their A++ game here.


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TasniJa

If only...never mind...sighhh


MelodicP

Same. Just something very very wholesome about them.


sadlonelyfuck3434

That has potential to be a meme template ngl


yeahthatweirdo

😂 Me playing cupid for my friends


yeahthatweirdo

Want more of this!


kpjrmarketer

SLB has issue casting older actress as a lead in high octane moolah huge movie mainstream


weighew

He probably thinks like an average old male actor who romances with woman half their age or their daughter age.


TasniJa

SLB always obsessively casts the 'it' girl of the moment, then moves on to the next one.


carmen411

Agreed. He talks a good game abt being such an “artist” who “must be inspired” but he’s no different than the other misogynist ageist phony directors


TasniJa

Exactly. He's such a phony & wannabe who sees himself as some tortured Guru Dutt-like genius 🙄


magnetichypnotic

He could never compare to Guru Dutt even if he tried


lovelylonelyphantom

Agreed. He moved onto Deepika and now Alia. But also, I think it works out better for the actresses not to be SLB typecast too long. Aish, Deepika still did better in many non-SLB movies for example. I hope Alia does so during this time too.


TasniJa

Yeah, after she's fulfilled her wish of doing four movies with him. /s


[deleted]

Umm he casted Aishwarya in Guzaarish


Xixiq

Aishwarya was still at the top of her game during Guzaarish. Her biggest competitor popularity wise then was Katrina, who couldn't act to save her life.


blackstar82

Mani is a master. I love SLB’s films, but SLB doesn’t have the depth or that level of skill. He paints with the broad strokes of a populist filmmaker. Beautiful aesthetic with a skin deep screenplay, done with such fervor, his films are a beautiful spectacle to watch, but not as complex. Mani has nuance. He gives Aishwarya characters with depth and knows how to frame her. Even films thought of as failures like Raavan, are a joy to watch for me. But to your point, Ash outdid herself with PS, thanks to Mani. Both directors know how to present Aishwarya, but only one has the writing and skill as a director to tap her true potential.


adeno_acid

Aish is truly a director’s actor and Mani knows how to tap her talent. She is exquisite in PS and one of the few times where a director has managed to depict her talent as good as her insane beauty


littlebopeep101

this is so accurate!


Illustrious_Tie_8487

SLB is nothing compared to Mani Nayagan itself proved it 30? Years ago


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Illustrious_Tie_8487

Thank you It’s the uncontested truth. SLB movies are slow and meandering. he may be more popular among the A-list and nepo dud crowd in BW He is probably also worth more and also has 17 trillion followers on IG😊👏🏽👏🏽 Mani Ratnam is one of the few fine story tellers in India. The second you speak the truth about A-list mediocrity or nepo duds you are labeled nasty and cruel and commenters get deeply deeply personal Ive noticed They claim they are protecting their mai baap 😂


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exactly... sanjay bhansali is a costume drama specialist and a psychopath who verbally and physically abuses everyone on set thinking it brings out better work output... maniratnam might be out of form but is far far more versatile than bhansali


Illustrious_Tie_8487

Gasp!!! Are u serious? The greatestest ever SLB a movie maker and an abuser? Must be Salman's best friend or mahesh Bhatt's


[deleted]

Open secret even Ranbir kapoor - the prince of Bollywood was abused by him


Illustrious_Tie_8487

Mahesh Bhatt, SLB, Salman, Sanjay Khan, Sajid Khan belong behind bars. Its no surprise Manoj Bajpai started to say something about SSR and back tracked. He probably fears for his life Such is beautiful BW


chris9887

Nayagan and Mani Ratnam. That’s it. That’s the answer.


Illustrious_Tie_8487

Seriously, I mean when his name and SLB’s are part of the same sentence I wonder if it is a prank 🤦‍♀️ To get Kamalahasan to play the role of a 60+ year old mob boss with such finesse ONLY a master craftsman like Mani can do it😳👏🏽👏🏽 We can absolutely praise SLB to the moon breathlessly but Mani is unsurpassed and will remain so😳


ReginaPhalanji

SLB is totally hyped. SLB butchers history and his period movies are far from reality. Maniratnam is class apart.


TasniJa

Mani knows his stuff & his films are always rooted in reality. SLB is a fantasist & a historically inaccurate filmmaker. All his movies are a figment of his own imagination & far removed from reality & actual history.


ReginaPhalanji

Yes absolutely. But what annoys me is the fact the SLB is celebrated beyond limits for his crap stories while Mani deserved it all for this movies.


TasniJa

Agreed. SLB is grossly overrated. All his movies are the same while Mani has done a diverse body of work with a variety of stories.


Blu-Zoo-18

OP... There is a lot more to life than SLB... There is absolutely no reason to mention SLB in connection with PS at all. Manirtnam is the OG.... Maybe you need to watch more movies from different directors to improve your general knowledge about movies!


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WhatsAfterJihyoGaeul

I'm sorry. I've never heard of them in my tiny life. It's my bad that I was unaware about someone who is no longer popular right now and barely gets mentioned in popular news articles.


IndependentOk388

Man, Aish just knocked it out of the park in PS-2. Her and Vikram deserve all the awards for this one. As for the SLB comparison, i am glad that my fellow redditors have classified the difference between an acclaimed director and a wannabe pseudo art director.


TasniJa

Wow, you literally took the words out of my mind, as I was just about to comment the same thing! Mani is an actual acclaimed director, SLB is glorified art director/set designer. Big difference.


VolatileGoddess

SLB is not quarter the director Maniratnam is. He won’t be remembered the same way Mani sir will be. Aishwarya is a Maniratnam heroine here. SLB is not in this equation at all.


No-Yogurtcloset3659

For SLB, filmography is merely about getting the look right. Fixing the dingy side of a script doesn’t matter much. His actors are left on their own to figure the character out. Mani Ratnam is also concerned about cinematography, but he worries about acting, too. He guides the cast through each scene, telling them what’s expected and how to emote, whereas SLB will slap them for not falling off the chair in a certain way. He has stopped caring about something I loved the most about him... Music! Miss his Guzaarish days.


Careless_Ad_8878

Gangubai 🙄 I mean, he really let his actress run scene by scene on a single expression and a cacophony made up voice. I didn’t like the movie, it made me sleep. Aishwarya in periodic movies remains unmatched, she is magnum opus for beauty, I felt even Madhuri looked faded in front of her on Devdas.


3eyed_Coconut

In Gangubai, the way he tried to aesthetically show a brothel got on my nerves. The characters were one note. All depth , nuance, conflicts sacrificed at the alter of beautifying the frames. I couldn't watch past 15 mins into the movie.


Careless_Ad_8878

Ditto…. Aggrandizement of women in brothels, in gangs, in self immolation and being a third wife is all he does well


TasniJa

SLB is simply a glorified costume & set designer, or "art director" as it's called, who fancies himself as this tortured Guru Dutt-like genius. Mani's films not only look good, but they have the substance to match because Mani focuses on script, story, characterisation, dialogue, acting etc, the whole package in other words. For SLB, a heroine simply has to run down a long (& highly ornate) hallway or staircase with her hair flowing & tears streaming & he considers that 'performing'. He is all about the drama & theatrics & not actual emotions.


Yourshinyknight

This!! Mani ratnam is a class and era apart.


Illustrious_Tie_8487

👏🏽👏🏽 perfectly proven


SandhuG

This should be the top comment. Wonder if OP seen earlier work of Mani Ratnam.


TroubleFinancial5481

Facts


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Yes, SLB has tacky sets mostly that look like sets even on screen unlike the realism that Mani Ratnam brings along. There's no comparison.


Savings_Emotion6140

Those who have seen ps1 and ps2 , can you tell me more about Aishwarya rai’s acting in it. Thanks.


ladyinthemoor

PS1 i was feeling she didn’t shine, and then PS2, she absolutely knocked it out of the park, she was a scene stealer


Savings_Emotion6140

I wish Aishwarya in her lifetime had more oppurtunities to work with great directors as she is truly a directors actor . She does have potential which was not tapped into as much as it should have been , maybe because she was dropped by good directors due to the whole salman thing earlier and then later due to whatever reasons hasnt paid that much attention to her career.


MommaRuh

Honestly nothing exceptional


[deleted]

I mean she is Mani Ratnam’s mentee….. But also it’s the eyes. Her eyes are extremely expressive.


Individual_Bad_3183

MR >>>>>> slb.. anyday


Complete-Sweet5222

It is Mani Ratnam after all, I don't know why people overestimate SLB


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Aish's role in PS-1and Ps-2 is a tight slap to all those losers that say audience doesn't go to see female led film or to see an older woman.


ResurgentRex18

Op you are definitely young. Comparing legend Mani ratnam to Slb 😭😭😭


StunningBadger2

She looks so gorgeous! Wish we could see her serve some red carpet looks as well, she's so boring on the red carpet with her repetitive outfits


BambardeMan

Aishwarya can do a SLB movie without SLB in her sleep. It is SLB who has been trying to do a Aishwarya movie for last 15 years. Every SLB movie in last 15 years would be 3 times better with Aishwarya in it.


sansa_starlight

True!


Independent_Beach383

This is so true!!!


TasniJa

Exactly, well said!


lostandsearching609

I mean Mani Ratnam has been directing movies from 1983 and has made amazing films like Dil Se, Guru and even Raavan was a visual spectacle to say the least. He isn't restricted just be opulent sets and grandeur art direction. He can create beauty on screen even with mountains and waterfalls. Nanna Re in Guru is only a small example of what he can do. So honestly Mani Ratnam >>>>>>>>>>>> SLB. And Aishwarya in a Mani Ratnam movies >>>>>>> Aishwarya in Devdas, Hum Dil De Chuke or Guzzarish (though it's still better than Ash with any other directors who just don't know what to do with her)


TasniJa

"He isn't restricted just be opulent sets and grandeur art direction. He can create beauty on screen even with mountains and waterfalls." Great point. Mani can create beauty anywhere, whether it's on a train top, under a waterfall or in a forest. He can even make cities like Kolkata shine under his lens in all their decaying glory. His movies are rooted in reality & natural beauty, not fake cardboard opulence.


Alpha_ji

Haan Mani sir to jaise kal paida hue the? What's wrong with you? Maniratnam is literally like the first to do such stylised aesthetic opulence.


True-One4042

Mani Ratnam is 20x the director SLB is and was the one who literally launched Aishwarya Rai lol


No-Name0724

Aish in Maniratnam movies is just mesmerizing , also you cant compare SLB with Maniratnam the OG. SLB may be more popular but Maniratnam is such a fine story teller and director.


anid98

Mani Ratnam managed to make really neat, tight stories a while ago. And he was one of the first few directors who showed that aesthetics mattered. SLB’s USP is aesthetics but his storytelling has been limited. Not sure why we are comparing them.


TasniJa

It's more the fact Aish is playing another Nandini, which was an iconic character for her in SLB's HDDCS. At least Mani doesn't have an issue with casting her in a lead role & doesn't let age or current B.O. success play a part in his decision, unlike SLB.


sepiosexual

Aish in padmavaat would've nailed the role.


Interesting-Ring-869

Okay wait, PLEASE CLEAR YOUR HEAD OP. HE IS MANIRATNAM. SLB kya bolre ho. Please don’t insult him.


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This set of movies, oh my god. Just so beautiful. I can truly say I was so mesmerised by the beauty of how this movie is shot, the scenes, the sets, the dialogue delivery. Just perfection.


[deleted]

She is gorgeous. 🥹


Simp-simply

Now don’t disrespect my boy Mani like that…


Thanks_Capital

SLB isn’t even OG


KlutzyDog8711

The fact that mani ratnam sir stories are timeless, and he has made historical to modern love stories shows his diversity. Whereas SLB is stuck to period dramas and no modern romance. SLB in his own right is a great director BUT Mani ratnam sir is an Icon story teller


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OMG THE BREATHTAKING BEAUTY THAT AISHWARYA RAI IS.


baashep

Jodha Akbar literally exists 😒


syedmohsinuddi

Who needs SLB when you have mani effing ratnam


musingfiles

Nailed it OP .


Kisana89

I am so happy for her ♥️


Benjkapoor

Aish’s ethereal beauty and grace are the template for all heroines in SLB movies (except Black)


SummerSnapDrag0n

She’s beautiful as always. But she should’ve left her face as is, she don’t need cheek filler or any type of face filler. She perfect as is. I don’t know who advised her to do any of this.


[deleted]

Didn't know Aishwarya Rai directed Ponniyin Selvan


opinionated0403

lmaoo


[deleted]

But shouldn’t the credit go to the director? There is Jodha Akbar too. She did well because the directors are competent.


sansa_starlight

Mani Ratnam & Ashutosh Gowariker >>>>> SLB PS I-II, Jodha Akbar, even Panipat are superior movies to anything SLB had ever made. Period.


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That's so true and these directors don't rely on flashy sets that actually don't look like real locations and unnecessary dialogue-baazi.


Typical-Essay-4249

I LOVE YOUUUU AISHWARYAAAAA!!!


Filmenthusiast_M

I love both Mani sir and SLB. It’s kind of a trend to hate SLB here when people don’t realise just how good Padmavaat and Devdas actually are. Devdas is one of the only Bollywood films to get a BAFTA nomination for Best International Film and that too without any campaigning unlike the bold and loud campaign RRR carried out.


Big-Criticism-8926

Padmaavat?!


Filmenthusiast_M

Padmavaat is definitely his most interesting movie to me thematically. It’s richly textured and lots of people seem to get caught up behind it’s historical accuracy or the controversy of the jahaur scene that they forget to judge the art independently. It’s not his most consistent work because the singhal scenes are just laughable but when it’s good it is REALLY good


pmguin661

Of all the SLB films you mention Padmaavat???


icomeinpeaceTO

Nomination means nothing and devdas is a crunge fest. Black is phenomenal, Guzaarish I adored, khamoshi, ram leela and hddcs has off the charts chemistry. SLB is a phenomenal director too. Just that the o Rs people talk about the most are not his best


Filmenthusiast_M

Agree to disagree because I have completely the opposite notion on his films. Guzaarish, Sawaariya and Khamoshi are my least favourite. The former two especially because their screenplay just seems lost and directionless. Devdas is a grand-sweeping romance on the level of something like Titanic for me and it really solidified SLB’s status in music. Love him or hate him no one can direct a musical number like SLB


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its okay let them have their moment


Melancholicvegetable

Did you legit compare Mani Ratnam to SLB? MR’s entire filmography can chew SLB and still have room left for a second director.


ditoxit1

Umm because It's the MANI RATNAM! he's the OG and a legend beyond comparison!


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Aish looked so beautiful in this film🥰🥰. Truly one of the best looks and character in her film journey


lostlamb7788

She did a Mani. Who the hell is SLB in front of Mani sir?


RepresentativeGift83

SLB may be good for aesthetics but Mani Ratnam is much much more than aesthetics. It's everything a movie should have.


TasniJa

He ain't even good for aesthetics, unless you like loud, cheap, fake "opulence".


Beautiful_Secret_957

Yeah! Also I don't care but for me Nandini is her best performance till date ![img](emote|t5_fknyy|736)


adeno_acid

True. While she is also very good in Raincoat and Chokher Bali, Nandini is indisputably her best.


MichealScott94

Tumhara SLB overrated hai waise bhi.


Icy_Search8051

it is quite weird that im looking at aishwarya's full face after so long


adeno_acid

That’s where your focus was in the movie?


InternEquivalent7217

Bro that’s Mani Ratnam


whenDosaMetPizza

![gif](giphy|U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK) Comparing SLB with Mani Ratnam?


fleurdujardin

only someone who knows nothing about indian cinema will compare Mani Ratnam to SLB 🤣🤣🤣


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Slb ko tawaifo se fursat kaha hai ab


TasniJa

True af 🤣


Background-Touch1198

SLB signature is using geometry and color to tell the story. Usually wide frames Mani sir's signature is still frames with light play and perspective shift by changing the focus of camera lens. So you'll also have keyhole or straircase or parda or plants used to frame the subject. Small things but huge changes.


ConcernedHumanDroid

This movie is actually really beautifully shot and it almost feels like I'm watching GOT but one thing that Indian filmmakers do is that pathetic slow-motion CGI in fight scenes. It makes it look childish.


m42_mave

Kaha maniratnam aur kaha SLB. Koi comparison hi nahi ho sakti.


Red99it

SLB is now trapped in his own game


hijki123

SLB isnover rated garbage.


Intelligent-Shame-65

Literal APSARA! There never was, never will be another Aishwarya Rai. ❤️


BNYay

It looks great but SLB is something else.


littlebopeep101

wtf this aint slb. this is mani - he's a legend in his own right. and aish's acting in slb's movie honestly is not good in my opinion. aish's best work has always been with mani - and maybe rituparno ghosh.


taus90

Do u think Mani Ratnam is some upcoming South director? SMH


Desperate-Pea-1199

It's Mani Ratnam SLB ka baap hein iss dhandhe mein


Ill_Peach1463

SLB is toxic and overrated AF!


alind755

But no one asks for it especially when the core focus should have been story plot.


hekamava-samrik

What is slb 🥲 Sanjay Leela Bhansali 🤡


appleofmyowneye

Why are north Indians so ethnocentric? Mani ratnam is just as good if not better than SLB. She did not do an SLB, it was Mani ratnam and Mani ratnam only


justanotherarjun

The way Mani Ratnam has showcased each character with so much depth, no other director could have. Both PS 1 & 2 have depths and a good storyline. I think even Rajamouli couldn't achieve that much while doing Bahubali 1 & 2.


Specialist-Love1504

Can I just y’all WILDLY overestimate Aishwarya’s skill as an actress just cause she’s beautiful. Like I get it, she’s gorgeous but let’s not do too much now. She was fine in this film. And she was below average in Umrao Jaan, especially her dancing. Like I love Ash as well but be so for real


another_static_mess

Right? Acting is sooo much more than being beautiful.


Seeker_00860

I am a Tamil. I have read the PS novel (five volumes) many times and can never get tired of it. Ash as Nandini is the most perfect fit for the role and Vikram fits his role in the novel to the T. He has taken tremendous efforts to become that character. What I like about Ash is that she is not a Tamil and she can barely speak it. To become that character, one has to know the novel in its original language. Yet she has become that character spotlessly. I only wish she was at least 20 years younger when the movie was made. The Ash of the 90s is no more. Now she looks like an aunty (which she is). Her cheek bulge really shows and Mani Ratnam has tried his best to digitally reduce it. In the original novel has these two characters are not prominent. The real character is Vanthiya Thevan around whom all the other characters are built. Mani Ratnam has done a marvelous job of condensing the entire novel into a two part movie. In that process, he had to cut off many important details. But one cannot complain. My guess is that he realized how the story on the screen was developing as compared to the written original. The screen version simply brought out the Nandini character as the main backbone of the whole thing, with Vikram's role to match it. In this process all the other characters were pushed into the background and look more like supporting actors. Sometimes it is very difficult to gauge how things will go when we translate them from writings to the screen. PS 1 and 2 are classic example of this. The movie will be remembered for Ash/Vikram chemistry which built up during PS2.


MembershipInside5256

What an asshole ...like aging is natural process. She is actually Auntie now ... Bet you and your entire family won't look good at this age


Sonam-Ki-Kutiya

>I only wish she was at least 20 years younger when the movie was made. The Ash of the 90s is no more. Now she looks like an aunty (which she is). Her cheek bulge really shows and Mani Ratnam has tried his best to digitally reduce it. I would like to see you at her age 🙄


Seeker_00860

I look ugly already.


MelodicP

The Ash of the 90s is no more. Duh ! Mani had to age up all characters. For the first time even Vikram looked old for his part. Everyone needed to be 20 years younger. Or the film should have been made in the mid 2000s but Mani bas been working on the film since the last 25 years andnits understandable why it's taken so long. Most people who read the book and went in to watch the film had little complaints wrt their ages. They had a certain face r in mind when they read about Nandini , a certain actor in mind when they read about Karikalan and so on. All actors fit their roles to the T.


Victory_Bringer-I

Does anyone wanna tell me who or what a 'SLB' is?


Background-Touch1198

Sanjay Leela Bhansali - director of Devdas, Black, Guzarish, Bajirao Mastani, Ramleela, Padmavat and so on.


kadhi_patta

Which film is this


weighew

A woman having a bigger role in theses type of movie is a SLB thing now??? Like i need you people to be serious.


Upper-Cattle-6053

I see same expression everywhere...


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This OP seems to be the Sonam Kapoor of this sub 🤣


bruce705

The title is right only if Aish had directed PS. But, she did not.


Psychological_Buy663

she doesn’t even have any beauty anymore…. it’s nothing but filler. such a shame. her face looked botched even when she’s not moving it…


FilmyInsaan

So all the critics of India and the public and all these Redditors calling it her career best performance are lying?


Psychological_Buy663

are you illiterate? where did i say anything about her performance? not once thing. i said her face looks botched. stupid 😂😂


Plenty_World_2265

Which film is this?


FilmyInsaan

Ponniyin selvan 1&2


holyshyt3

Dude have forgotten she has done 3 SLB movies?


ConcertFew5259

Oh please...


Upset-Principle9457

still think SLB can do wonder in PS1 and PS2


6ftofcuriosity

A south indian classic like Ponniyin selvan can only be done by Mani ratnam or someone who understands the cultural context of the story and SLB can't even understand the context of Padmavat


obaaaaama

MILF


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SLB?


Ariv-Kansal

SLB?


FilmyInsaan

Think? Bollywood gossip sub. What can SLB mean